Obama & Atlas Shrugged

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    In "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand, the government has decided to take from the achievers, the people who have and demonstrated the ability to achieve and make things happen.

    They are being looted by those who don't have that the abiliy as these achievers.

    The looters' (i.e. those that get the government influence) ability is to make laws to take from these people.

    Society has changed from a society based on production and profit to a society based on pull and getting favors from people who are good at making profit. As a result of these various laws to benefit these select few, the economy goes into turmoil)

    How much do you think Obama is changing America to become like this type of society in Atlas Shrugged?
     
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    We'll start with "Not at all".

    Got anything new to add? Or is this just more of the same rhetoric?

    Name one right that Obama has taken away from you. Start there, and if you can come up with one, we can start the "compare Obama to fictional characters and situations" game.
     
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    What has Obama changed?
     
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    He is still working on it.

    The health care bill

    Cap & trade

    The global warming hoax regulations

    They haven't passed yet
     
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    How do any of those bills (aside from the healthcare bill, I see what you mean there) take money from "the achievers" to give to the "non-acheivers"
     
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    I've got to get that book.
     
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    Read "Anthem" by her instead. It makes the same point, in about 900 less pages.

    Atlas Shrugged is one of the most overrated books I've ever read - and not because of it's politics - I know where I stand with Ayn Rand. It's just a poorly written 1000 page monstrosity that's thesis can be summed up in one sentence.
     
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    Have you looked at the Cap & Trade bill the House passed? The diversion of wealth from consumers at large (i.e. us working folk) to special interests (estimates range as high as 80% of revenues) is staggering not to mention the brand new government created market for carbon credit trading.

    The whole scam has "looting" written all over it and the worst part is that it's probably not going to help the environment or our energy independence in any significant way.
     
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    The basic premise of Atlas Shrugged is an epic fail right out the gate.

    Apparently these so called 'acheivers' are not able to achieve any sort of influence on their own stinking government. :lol:

    FTR: I've never read it. But I did read half of Fountainhead and as I've said before, nothing more than a glorified piece of shit romance novel.
     
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    Atlast Shrugged is one of my favorite books. But I wouldn't want to live in a Randian nightmare world.

    As a political philosopher, she was a good novelist.
     

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