Nugent Ousted From Concert: Liberty Takes Another on the Chin-Again

[Ernie S.]

The so-called 'tolerant' are turning out to be not so much...

Well, i never bought into the notion Socialists/Progressives were tolerant. I knew that was B.S. all along. Socialists/Progressives do not stand up for Free Speech. In fact, no other Socialists/Communists on this earth do either. So why do so many think our Socialists here would be so different? They are what they are. It really is that simple.

The Major General made the decision; is he SOCIALIST/PROGRESSIVE?

Damned if I know, but his CnC is. Who do you think REALLY made the decision?

 

[rightwinger]

Sounds like the Dixie Chicks.

Freedom of Speech ends when you expect someone to pay you

 

[paulitician]

Ted "Shit My Pants" Nugent should never be allowed to perform at any military functions! Ever!

Spoken like a true Nazi. Well done.

 

[The T]

Ted "Shit My Pants" Nugent should never be allowed to perform at any military functions! Ever!

And an UnAmerican POTUS that is rapidly divinge this country should have NEVER been elected...

Liberty is your BANE...

 

[paulitician]

Well, i never bought into the notion Socialists/Progressives were tolerant. I knew that was B.S. all along. Socialists/Progressives do not stand up for Free Speech. In fact, no other Socialists/Communists on this earth do either. So why do so many think our Socialists here would be so different? They are what they are. It really is that simple.

The Major General made the decision; is he SOCIALIST/PROGRESSIVE?

Damned if I know, but his CnC is. Who do you think REALLY made the decision?

You stumped em. Another Obamabot crash. It'll have to reboot and get back to ya on that.

 

[Lakhota]

Freedom of speech has consequences! Rush Limbaugh is learning that.

WillowTree and Ernie S. exercised their freedom of speech by negging my above post.

 

[The T]

Well, i never bought into the notion Socialists/Progressives were tolerant. I knew that was B.S. all along. Socialists/Progressives do not stand up for Free Speech. In fact, no other Socialists/Communists on this earth do either. So why do so many think our Socialists here would be so different? They are what they are. It really is that simple.

The Major General made the decision; is he SOCIALIST/PROGRESSIVE?

Damned if I know, but his CnC is. Who do you think REALLY made the decision?

Whoops!

 

[Peach]

Sounds like the Dixie Chicks.

Freedm of Speech ends when you expect someone to pay you

Yes, I would not expect them to perform on military installations during Bush's term, OR NOW.

 

[The T]

Freedom of speech has consequences! Rush Limbaugh is learning that.

WillowTree and Ernie S. exercised their freedom of speech by negging my above post.

Poor-Poor baby.

Don't like it?

Go away.

 

[Ernie S.]

Considering that Nugent has already made his views quite clear on how he views the President, as well as the fact that he likes to make his views well known when he's performing, the base commander made the right choice, because there is a good chance that if Nugent was performing on the base, he'd come out with some more anti-Obama rhetoric, and the base commander doesn't want to deal with the hassle.

I understand why the commander did this, but unfortunately, those who have never served don't understand how the miltary works, as has been reflected on these boards MANY times.

Would be comfortable replacing Nugent with Niel Young? Same shit but from the other side.

 

[The T]

Sounds like the Dixie Chicks.

Freedm of Speech ends when you expect someone to pay you

So ALL the other acts shouldn't get paid...but do YOU know the TERMS of the appearences?

I'll BET that YOU don't...do you?

 

[sparky]

Yet another grandious display of partisanship trumping constitutional fundamentals

~S~

 

[rightwinger]

Sounds like the Dixie Chicks.

Freedm of Speech ends when you expect someone to pay you

So ALL the other acts shouldn't get paid...but do YOU know the TERMS of the appearences?

I'll BET that YOU don't...do you?

Of course they get paid...why shouldn't they?

Ted Nugent got canned for offensive behavior......happens all the time

 

[Peach]

Call for the Major General to be removed then if one filthy, lowlife like Nugent means so much to you. (Prior to his PUBLICIZED love of guns, and hatred of the President, most here cheering him would have spit on him.)

 

[The T]

Sounds like the Dixie Chicks.

Freedm of Speech ends when you expect someone to pay you

So ALL the other acts shouldn't get paid...but do YOU know the TERMS of the appearences?

I'll BET that YOU don't...do you?

Of course they get paid...why shouldn't they?

Ted Nugent got canned for offensive behavior......happens all the time

Guess YOU have never experienced USO?

PAY doesn't matter...

Troop morale is everything.

I've been a recipient of several USO shows...

Politics NEVER entered into the picture...

NOR if they were paid...

It doesn't matter.

 

[ABikerSailor]

I'm still wondering why people think Nugent's free speech rights are being violated. Nobody told him he couldn't say the bullshit he did.

And..........free speech dictates that anyone who disagrees with Nugent can say so.

Matter of fact, Nugent can STILL say what he's been spewing, just not on the base. Free speech doesn't mean that you have a right to perform anywhere you want, because the people who own the place you might perform at have free speech as well, and they have the right to refuse.

Free speech doesn't mean that Nugent also has the right to perform on bases, unless they want him.

 

[Mustang]

Nugent Ousted From Fort Knox Concert Line-Up

Ted Nugent has been booted from the line-up at an annual Fort Knox summer concert following his recent comments about President Barack Obama, a Fort Knox representative confirmed to The Blaze.

The decision to oust Nugent came after “recent disparaging remarks made against the commander in chief,” Ryan Brus of the Fort Knox public affairs office said.

Because the concert is taking place on a military installation, it “would be a conflict of interest since the military has the obligation to be apolitical,” he said.

Brus said they don‘t look at political or social views when booking performers but that Nugent’s comments about the commander in chief crossed the line.

Brus said Major General Jefforey Smith, commanding general at Fort Knox, made the final decision to cancel Nugent’s appearance.

Apolitical my ass...

Your idea of freedom is that the US military can essentially be 'held hostage' to the rants of a man who basically threatened the commander-in-chief of the soldiers who will be in attendance at the concert?

Well, if THAT doesn't bother you, my guess is that a contract was signed by gov't representatives, the promoter, and whoever it is who represents the musical acts. That contract almost certainly has a clause (normally referred to as a morals clause) which could lead to the contract being cancelled if the musical act engaged in certain behavior which would bring discredit to the military. Who's surprised that they decided to exercise the morals clause?

Ted Nugent is certainly free to play elsewhere. If he was in the military, he would be facing a courts martial now.

 

[Peach]

A true "family values" Republican, he reminds me of Foley & Vitter:

He has had two wives and has eight children, including three out of wedlock in two liaisons almost 30 years apart. In the late 1960s, prior to his first marriage, Nugent fathered a boy, Ted (Mann) and a girl, whom he gave up for adoption in infancy. This did not become public knowledge until 2010. The siblings were adopted separately and had no contact with one another. The son learned the identity of his birth father in 2010 through the daughter's quest to make contact with him and their birth parents. According to a news report, Nugent over the years had discussed the existence of these children with his other children.[24]
In 2005 Nugent was involved in a legal battle for not paying enough child support for a child he had out of wedlock in 1995.[25] It was finally resolved when Nugent was ordered to pay $3,500 in child support.[26]
He was married to his first wife, Sandra Jezowski, from 1970 to 1979. They had three children, son Theodore Tobias "Toby" Nugent, and daughters Sasha and Starr Nugent. Sandra died in a car crash in 1982. His second marriage was to Shemane Deziel, whom he met while a guest on Detroit's WLLZ-FM, where she was a member of the news staff. They married on January 21, 1989. Together they have two children, son Rocco Winchester Nugent, and daughter Chantal Nugent.
In 1978, Nugent began a relationship with seventeen-year-old Hawaii native Pele Massa. Due to the age difference they could not marry so Nugent joined Massa's parents in signing documents to make himself her legal guardian, an arrangement that Spin magazine ranked in October 2000 as #63 on their list of the "100 Sleaziest Moments in Rock".[27][28]

 

[paulitician]

Call for the Major General to be removed then if one filthy, lowlife like Nugent means so much to you. (Prior to his PUBLICIZED love of guns, and hatred of the President, most here cheering him would have spit on him.)

Boy, you Socialists/Progressives really do despise Free Speech don't ya? You should be ashamed of yourselves. Your blatant hypocrisy is on display for all to see. It's so shameful.

 

[Peach]

Considering that Nugent has already made his views quite clear on how he views the President, as well as the fact that he likes to make his views well known when he's performing, the base commander made the right choice, because there is a good chance that if Nugent was performing on the base, he'd come out with some more anti-Obama rhetoric, and the base commander doesn't want to deal with the hassle.

I understand why the commander did this, but unfortunately, those who have never served don't understand how the miltary works, as has been reflected on these boards MANY times.

Would be comfortable replacing Nugent with Niel Young? Same shit but from the other side.

No, NOT the same. Neil Young has immense TALENT.