Notice how the liberal loons REFUSE to acknowledge Van Jones.

Seriously, these spineless lil' weasels absolutely refuse to talk about the disgusting relationship between Obama and Jones.
You lib's do realize that Jones is a self avowed communist, 9/11 truther and, racist piece of garbage that Obama kept an arms length away from him.
Now, why might that be?
BECAUSE OBAMA IS ONE IN THE SAME!
Kudos to Beck and Hannity for continuing to expose these disgusting anti-american piles of shit. Kudos to them for exposing more of Obama's so called "Czars"
Kudos to them for exposing Obama as to what he truly is.

are you trying to imply 9/11 truth is a left wing issue ?...because it could not be further from the truth


Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report
I'm implying that 9/11 truthers are friggin idiots, no matter what their political affiliation.
Oh, and lets just see. Rosie O'donnel is a far LEFT, disgusting homosexual piece of garbage, and LIBERAL 9/11 truther.
Van Jones is a self avowed far LEFT LIBERAL communist dirt bag, just Like Obama, and a 9/11 truther.
And, just go look at the docement signed by Jones and how many left wing idiots signatures are on it.
So yes, left wingers do make up the majority of the truthers.

Rosie O'Donnell? Yep. She's got a lotta power. :cuckoo: :cuckoo: :cuckoo: :cuckoo: :cuckoo:
 
Notice how the loony Righties continue to try to villify, dehumanize and marginalize the elected President of the United States? It's almost as if they can't really believe that A) someone was legally elected to that office. And B) He's a black man!

No one has a problem with the fact that he was legally elected. WTH? And no one gives a shit that he's black . . . except the left when they have nothing else to say.

You guys tried this shit with Wright, Ayers, and a million others already. And it didn't work, everyone saw through the bullshit. This "Obama hates America" rhetoric isn't going to stick, no matter how hard you throw it.

Now you're trying again with Van Jones. I guess if it didn't work the first 20 times, maybe the 21st will be the one that does?

Hmmm, where's Wright? under the bus; where's Ayres? under the bus; where's Jones? under the bus.

Fact is, 'it' is working, thanks to people like Beck. Your liberal MSM won't even touch this or anything else that shows Obama's true colors. Cowards.


Why did the press ignore the Van Jones scandal? | Washington Examiner
 
Notice how the loony Righties continue to try to villify, dehumanize and marginalize the elected President of the United States? It's almost as if they can't really believe that A) someone was legally elected to that office. And B) He's a black man!

No one has a problem with the fact that he was legally elected. WTH? And no one gives a shit that he's black . . . except the left when they have nothing else to say.

You guys tried this shit with Wright, Ayers, and a million others already. And it didn't work, everyone saw through the bullshit. This "Obama hates America" rhetoric isn't going to stick, no matter how hard you throw it.

Now you're trying again with Van Jones. I guess if it didn't work the first 20 times, maybe the 21st will be the one that does?

Hmmm, where's Wright? under the bus; where's Ayres? under the bus; where's Jones? under the bus.
"Under the bus" is the stupidest phrase in American Political Lexicon. It's meaningless, except for Right Wing talking points.

Fact is, 'it' is working, thanks to people like Beck. Your liberal MSM won't even touch this or anything else that shows Obama's true colors. Cowards.
Show me how it's working. Beck's audience is an echo chamber. The only people who listen to him are people who already hate Obama - Beck just gives them talking points.



Google search returned over 2,000 news stories on it... What exactly was being ignored?
 
Notice how the loony Righties continue to try to villify, dehumanize and marginalize the elected President of the United States? It's almost as if they can't really believe that A) someone was legally elected to that office. And B) He's a black man!

No one has a problem with the fact that he was legally elected. WTH? And no one gives a shit that he's black . . . except the left when they have nothing else to say.

You guys tried this shit with Wright, Ayers, and a million others already. And it didn't work, everyone saw through the bullshit. This "Obama hates America" rhetoric isn't going to stick, no matter how hard you throw it.

Now you're trying again with Van Jones. I guess if it didn't work the first 20 times, maybe the 21st will be the one that does?

Hmmm, where's Wright? under the bus; where's Ayres? under the bus; where's Jones? under the bus.

Fact is, 'it' is working, thanks to people like Beck. Your liberal MSM won't even touch this or anything else that shows Obama's true colors. Cowards.


Why did the press ignore the Van Jones scandal? | Washington Examiner
Olbermann and Opie Maddow have been completely silent on this issue. No mention of Jones whatsoever.
It truly is laughable.
They realize the damage that this is doing to Obama's credibility. They realize that their ratings are suffering. Nobody is listening to their loony liberal message but, THEY ARE LISTENING TO O'REILLY, BECK AND HANNITY.
Obama is finished.
Couple this with the Cop controversy where he showed his blatant racism in taking his black buddies side without admitedly knowing the facts. His statement about "personnel being policy". You know, his "personnel will show his policy". Personnel like Van Jones and such. He's finished.
By appointing a self avowed communist like Van Jones, he blatantly slapped the faces of all who have bled and died fighting the scurge of communism. By appointing Jones, Obama clearly showed the he is no different than Van Jones himself.
Personnel is policy, after all!
 
Notice how the loony Righties continue to try to villify, dehumanize and marginalize the elected President of the United States? It's almost as if they can't really believe that A) someone was legally elected to that office. And B) He's a black man!

No one has a problem with the fact that he was legally elected. WTH? And no one gives a shit that he's black . . . except the left when they have nothing else to say.

Hmmm, where's Wright? under the bus; where's Ayres? under the bus; where's Jones? under the bus.
"Under the bus" is the stupidest phrase in American Political Lexicon. It's meaningless, except for Right Wing talking points.

That's what I thought you'd say. :blahblah:

Fact is, 'it' is working, thanks to people like Beck. Your liberal MSM won't even touch this or anything else that shows Obama's true colors. Cowards.
Show me how it's working. Beck's audience is an echo chamber. The only people who listen to him are people who already hate Obama - Beck just gives them talking points.

Beck is helping to expose the radicals Obama has chosen to surround himself with. He isn't giving any talking points, but he is asking lots and lots of questions. He's been asking the WH to respond to these questions for over a week. The WH is silent.



Google search returned over 2,000 news stories on it... What exactly was being ignored?

Obviously you didn't bother reading the article.
.
 
Seriously, these spineless lil' weasels absolutely refuse to talk about the disgusting relationship between Obama and Jones.
You lib's do realize that Jones is a self avowed communist, 9/11 truther and, racist piece of garbage that Obama kept an arms length away from him.
Now, why might that be?
BECAUSE OBAMA IS ONE IN THE SAME!
Kudos to Beck and Hannity for continuing to expose these disgusting anti-american piles of shit. Kudos to them for exposing more of Obama's so called "Czars"
Kudos to them for exposing Obama as to what he truly is.

some defend him. :lol:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/current-events/87477-van-jones-crime.html
 
are you trying to imply 9/11 truth is a left wing issue ?...because it could not be further from the truth


Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report
I'm implying that 9/11 truthers are friggin idiots, no matter what their political affiliation.
Oh, and lets just see. Rosie O'donnel is a far LEFT, disgusting homosexual piece of garbage, and LIBERAL 9/11 truther.
Van Jones is a self avowed far LEFT LIBERAL communist dirt bag, just Like Obama, and a 9/11 truther.
And, just go look at the docement signed by Jones and how many left wing idiots signatures are on it.
So yes, left wingers do make up the majority of the truthers.

Rosie O'Donnell? Yep. She's got a lotta power. :cuckoo: :cuckoo: :cuckoo: :cuckoo: :cuckoo:

this programed response just hi-lies your ignorance and media manipulatied opinion and associations...the media has manipulated you into associating 9/11 truth with a lesbian left wing comedy as opposed to....


Major General Albert Stubblebine, U.S. Army (ret) – Former Commanding General of U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command, 1981 - 1984. Also commanded the U.S. Army’s Electronic Research and Development Command and the U.S. Army’s Intelligence School and Center. Former head of Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence. 32-year Army career.

Member, Military Intelligence Hall of Fame.
Video interview 6/28/09:

General Stubblebine: I am Major General Albert Stubblebine. I am retired Army Major-General. In my last assignment -- my last command -- I was responsible for all of the Army's strategic intelligence forces around the world. I had responsibility for the Signals Intelligence, Photo Intelligence, Counter Intelligence, Human Intelligence. They all belonged to me, in my last assignment. …

I was supposed to find out what the enemy was doing, before the enemy did it so that we could take action against the enemy. That's Intelligence, OK, before the fact. So, we always -- always -- rely not on a single piece of data, before we make a statement, but on multiple and the more pieces of data that you have that correlate, the better you know exactly what is going on. …

So I have had a lot of experience looking at photographs. I have looked at many, many different kinds of photographs, from many, many different platforms on many, many different countries, around the world.

Interviewer: OK. So on September the 11th, in 2001, what hit the Pentagon?

General Stubblebine: I don't know exactly what hit it, but I do know, from the photographs that I have analyzed and looked at very, very carefully, it was not an airplane.

Interviewer: What made you believe that?

General Stubblebine: Well, for one thing, if you look at the hole that was made in the Pentagon, the nose penetrated far enough so that there should have been wing marks on the walls of the Pentagon. I have been unable to find those wing marks. So where were they? Did this vessel -- vehicle, or whatever it was -- have wings? Apparently not, because if it had had wings, they would have made marks on the side of the Pentagon.

One person counteracted my theory, and said, "Oh, you've got it all wrong. And the reason that it's wrong is that as the airplane came across, one wing tipped down and hit the ground and broke off." I said, "Fine, that's possible, one wing could have broken off." But if I understand airplanes correctly, most airplanes have two wings. I haven't met an airplane with only one wing. So where was the mark for the second wing? OK, one broke off -- there should have been a mark for the second wing. I could not find that in any of the photographs that I've analyzed. Now I've been very careful to not say what went in there. Why? Because you don't have that evidence. …

I did -- I've never believed that it was an airplane since I've looked at the photographs. Up until the time I looked at the photographs, I accepted what was being said. After I looked at it -- NO WAY! …

We pride ourselves with the "free press." I do not believe the "free press" is free any more. It's very expensive. It's very expensive. And the press is saying what they have been told to say about this.

Now, do I have proof of that? No. But I believe that what is being -- what certainly the -- the stories that were told -- all about 9/11 were false. I mean, you take a look at the buildings falling down. They didn't fall down because airplanes hit them. They fell down because of explosives went off inside. Demolition. Look at Building 7, for God's sake. It didn't fall down to its side. It didn't fall to this direction or that direction; just like the two Towers. …

When you look at the temperatures that you can create with fuel in a gas tank or a fuel tank of an airplane, and then you investigate the amount of heat that would be required to melt -- to melt -- the superstructure of the buildings that came tumbling down, when you put all of that together, the one thing that shows; It does not match the facts. What is it they do not want the public to know? [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daNr_TrBw6E[/ame]


Video documentary One Nation Under Siege 7/11/06: "One of my experiences in the Army was being in charge of the Army’s Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence during the Cold War. I measured pieces of Soviet equipment from photographs. It was my job. I look at the hole in the Pentagon and I look at the size of an airplane that was supposed to have hit the Pentagon. And I said, ‘The plane does not fit in that hole’. So what did hit the Pentagon? What hit it? Where is it? What's going on?" http://www.undersiegemovie.com




Capt. Daniel Davis, U.S. Army – Former U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director. Decorated with the Bronze Star and the Soldiers Medal for bravery under fire and the Purple Heart for injuries sustained in Viet Nam. Also served in the Army Air Defense Command as Nike Missile Battery Control Officer for the Chicago-Milwaukee Defense Area. Founder and former CEO of Turbine Technology Services Corp., a turbine (jet engine) services and maintenance company (15 years). Former Senior Manager at General Electric Turbine (jet) Engine Division (15 years). Private pilot.

Statement to this website 3/23/07: "As a former General Electric Turbine engineering specialist and manager and then CEO of a turbine engineering company, I can guarantee that none of the high tech, high temperature alloy engines on any of the four planes that crashed on 9/11 would be completely destroyed, burned, shattered or melted in any crash or fire. Wrecked, yes, but not destroyed. Where are all of those engines, particularly at the Pentagon? If jet powered aircraft crashed on 9/11, those engines, plus wings and tail assembly, would be there.

Additionally, in my experience as an officer in NORAD as a Tactical Director for the Chicago-Milwaukee Air Defense and as a current private pilot, there is no way that an aircraft on instrument flight plans (all commercial flights are IFR) would not be intercepted when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop communication with Air Traffic Control. No way! With very bad luck, perhaps one could slip by, but no there's no way all four of them could!

Finally, going over the hill and highway and crashing into the Pentagon right at the wall/ground interface is nearly impossible for even a small slow single engine airplane and no way for a 757. Maybe the best pilot in the world could accomplish that but not these unskilled "terrorists".

Attempts to obscure facts by calling them a "Conspiracy Theory" does not change the truth. It seems, "Something is rotten in the State."
 
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I'm implying that 9/11 truthers are friggin idiots, no matter what their political affiliation.
Oh, and lets just see. Rosie O'donnel is a far LEFT, disgusting homosexual piece of garbage, and LIBERAL 9/11 truther.
Van Jones is a self avowed far LEFT LIBERAL communist dirt bag, just Like Obama, and a 9/11 truther.
And, just go look at the docement signed by Jones and how many left wing idiots signatures are on it.
So yes, left wingers do make up the majority of the truthers.

Rosie O'Donnell? Yep. She's got a lotta power. :cuckoo: :cuckoo: :cuckoo: :cuckoo: :cuckoo:

this programed response just hi-lies your ignorance and media manipulatied opinion and associations...the media has manipulated you into associating 9/11 truth with a lesbian left wing comedy as opposed to....


Major General Albert Stubblebine, U.S. Army (ret) – Former Commanding General of U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command, 1981 - 1984. Also commanded the U.S. Army’s Electronic Research and Development Command and the U.S. Army’s Intelligence School and Center. Former head of Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence. 32-year Army career.

Member, Military Intelligence Hall of Fame.
Video interview 6/28/09:

General Stubblebine: I am Major General Albert Stubblebine. I am retired Army Major-General. In my last assignment -- my last command -- I was responsible for all of the Army's strategic intelligence forces around the world. I had responsibility for the Signals Intelligence, Photo Intelligence, Counter Intelligence, Human Intelligence. They all belonged to me, in my last assignment. …

I was supposed to find out what the enemy was doing, before the enemy did it so that we could take action against the enemy. That's Intelligence, OK, before the fact. So, we always -- always -- rely not on a single piece of data, before we make a statement, but on multiple and the more pieces of data that you have that correlate, the better you know exactly what is going on. …

So I have had a lot of experience looking at photographs. I have looked at many, many different kinds of photographs, from many, many different platforms on many, many different countries, around the world.

Interviewer: OK. So on September the 11th, in 2001, what hit the Pentagon?

General Stubblebine: I don't know exactly what hit it, but I do know, from the photographs that I have analyzed and looked at very, very carefully, it was not an airplane.

Interviewer: What made you believe that?

General Stubblebine: Well, for one thing, if you look at the hole that was made in the Pentagon, the nose penetrated far enough so that there should have been wing marks on the walls of the Pentagon. I have been unable to find those wing marks. So where were they? Did this vessel -- vehicle, or whatever it was -- have wings? Apparently not, because if it had had wings, they would have made marks on the side of the Pentagon.

One person counteracted my theory, and said, "Oh, you've got it all wrong. And the reason that it's wrong is that as the airplane came across, one wing tipped down and hit the ground and broke off." I said, "Fine, that's possible, one wing could have broken off." But if I understand airplanes correctly, most airplanes have two wings. I haven't met an airplane with only one wing. So where was the mark for the second wing? OK, one broke off -- there should have been a mark for the second wing. I could not find that in any of the photographs that I've analyzed. Now I've been very careful to not say what went in there. Why? Because you don't have that evidence. …

I did -- I've never believed that it was an airplane since I've looked at the photographs. Up until the time I looked at the photographs, I accepted what was being said. After I looked at it -- NO WAY! …

We pride ourselves with the "free press." I do not believe the "free press" is free any more. It's very expensive. It's very expensive. And the press is saying what they have been told to say about this.

Now, do I have proof of that? No. But I believe that what is being -- what certainly the -- the stories that were told -- all about 9/11 were false. I mean, you take a look at the buildings falling down. They didn't fall down because airplanes hit them. They fell down because of explosives went off inside. Demolition. Look at Building 7, for God's sake. It didn't fall down to its side. It didn't fall to this direction or that direction; just like the two Towers. …

When you look at the temperatures that you can create with fuel in a gas tank or a fuel tank of an airplane, and then you investigate the amount of heat that would be required to melt -- to melt -- the superstructure of the buildings that came tumbling down, when you put all of that together, the one thing that shows; It does not match the facts. What is it they do not want the public to know? [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daNr_TrBw6E]YouTube - General of all American Intelligence: 911 was a fraud![/ame]


Video documentary One Nation Under Siege 7/11/06: "One of my experiences in the Army was being in charge of the Army’s Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence during the Cold War. I measured pieces of Soviet equipment from photographs. It was my job. I look at the hole in the Pentagon and I look at the size of an airplane that was supposed to have hit the Pentagon. And I said, ‘The plane does not fit in that hole’. So what did hit the Pentagon? What hit it? Where is it? What's going on?" One Nation Under Siege - A William Lewis Film




Capt. Daniel Davis, U.S. Army – Former U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director. Decorated with the Bronze Star and the Soldiers Medal for bravery under fire and the Purple Heart for injuries sustained in Viet Nam. Also served in the Army Air Defense Command as Nike Missile Battery Control Officer for the Chicago-Milwaukee Defense Area. Founder and former CEO of Turbine Technology Services Corp., a turbine (jet engine) services and maintenance company (15 years). Former Senior Manager at General Electric Turbine (jet) Engine Division (15 years). Private pilot.

Statement to this website 3/23/07: "As a former General Electric Turbine engineering specialist and manager and then CEO of a turbine engineering company, I can guarantee that none of the high tech, high temperature alloy engines on any of the four planes that crashed on 9/11 would be completely destroyed, burned, shattered or melted in any crash or fire. Wrecked, yes, but not destroyed. Where are all of those engines, particularly at the Pentagon? If jet powered aircraft crashed on 9/11, those engines, plus wings and tail assembly, would be there.

Additionally, in my experience as an officer in NORAD as a Tactical Director for the Chicago-Milwaukee Air Defense and as a current private pilot, there is no way that an aircraft on instrument flight plans (all commercial flights are IFR) would not be intercepted when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop communication with Air Traffic Control. No way! With very bad luck, perhaps one could slip by, but no there's no way all four of them could!

Finally, going over the hill and highway and crashing into the Pentagon right at the wall/ground interface is nearly impossible for even a small slow single engine airplane and no way for a 757. Maybe the best pilot in the world could accomplish that but not these unskilled "terrorists".

Attempts to obscure facts by calling them a "Conspiracy Theory" does not change the truth. It seems, "Something is rotten in the State."
Thanks for further proving that 9/11 truthers are friggin' nutjobs!
 
I'm implying that 9/11 truthers are friggin idiots, no matter what their political affiliation.
Oh, and lets just see. Rosie O'donnel is a far LEFT, disgusting homosexual piece of garbage, and LIBERAL 9/11 truther.
Van Jones is a self avowed far LEFT LIBERAL communist dirt bag, just Like Obama, and a 9/11 truther.
And, just go look at the docement signed by Jones and how many left wing idiots signatures are on it.
So yes, left wingers do make up the majority of the truthers.

Rosie O'Donnell? Yep. She's got a lotta power. :cuckoo: :cuckoo: :cuckoo: :cuckoo: :cuckoo:

this programed response just hi-lies your ignorance and media manipulatied opinion and associations...the media has manipulated you into associating 9/11 truth with a lesbian left wing comedy as opposed to....


Major General Albert Stubblebine, U.S. Army (ret) – Former Commanding General of U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command, 1981 - 1984. Also commanded the U.S. Army’s Electronic Research and Development Command and the U.S. Army’s Intelligence School and Center. Former head of Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence. 32-year Army career.

Member, Military Intelligence Hall of Fame.
Video interview 6/28/09:

General Stubblebine: I am Major General Albert Stubblebine. I am retired Army Major-General. In my last assignment -- my last command -- I was responsible for all of the Army's strategic intelligence forces around the world. I had responsibility for the Signals Intelligence, Photo Intelligence, Counter Intelligence, Human Intelligence. They all belonged to me, in my last assignment. …

I was supposed to find out what the enemy was doing, before the enemy did it so that we could take action against the enemy. That's Intelligence, OK, before the fact. So, we always -- always -- rely not on a single piece of data, before we make a statement, but on multiple and the more pieces of data that you have that correlate, the better you know exactly what is going on. …

So I have had a lot of experience looking at photographs. I have looked at many, many different kinds of photographs, from many, many different platforms on many, many different countries, around the world.

Interviewer: OK. So on September the 11th, in 2001, what hit the Pentagon?

General Stubblebine: I don't know exactly what hit it, but I do know, from the photographs that I have analyzed and looked at very, very carefully, it was not an airplane.

Interviewer: What made you believe that?

General Stubblebine: Well, for one thing, if you look at the hole that was made in the Pentagon, the nose penetrated far enough so that there should have been wing marks on the walls of the Pentagon. I have been unable to find those wing marks. So where were they? Did this vessel -- vehicle, or whatever it was -- have wings? Apparently not, because if it had had wings, they would have made marks on the side of the Pentagon.

One person counteracted my theory, and said, "Oh, you've got it all wrong. And the reason that it's wrong is that as the airplane came across, one wing tipped down and hit the ground and broke off." I said, "Fine, that's possible, one wing could have broken off." But if I understand airplanes correctly, most airplanes have two wings. I haven't met an airplane with only one wing. So where was the mark for the second wing? OK, one broke off -- there should have been a mark for the second wing. I could not find that in any of the photographs that I've analyzed. Now I've been very careful to not say what went in there. Why? Because you don't have that evidence. …

I did -- I've never believed that it was an airplane since I've looked at the photographs. Up until the time I looked at the photographs, I accepted what was being said. After I looked at it -- NO WAY! …

We pride ourselves with the "free press." I do not believe the "free press" is free any more. It's very expensive. It's very expensive. And the press is saying what they have been told to say about this.

Now, do I have proof of that? No. But I believe that what is being -- what certainly the -- the stories that were told -- all about 9/11 were false. I mean, you take a look at the buildings falling down. They didn't fall down because airplanes hit them. They fell down because of explosives went off inside. Demolition. Look at Building 7, for God's sake. It didn't fall down to its side. It didn't fall to this direction or that direction; just like the two Towers. …

When you look at the temperatures that you can create with fuel in a gas tank or a fuel tank of an airplane, and then you investigate the amount of heat that would be required to melt -- to melt -- the superstructure of the buildings that came tumbling down, when you put all of that together, the one thing that shows; It does not match the facts. What is it they do not want the public to know? [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daNr_TrBw6E]YouTube - General of all American Intelligence: 911 was a fraud![/ame]


Video documentary One Nation Under Siege 7/11/06: "One of my experiences in the Army was being in charge of the Army’s Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence during the Cold War. I measured pieces of Soviet equipment from photographs. It was my job. I look at the hole in the Pentagon and I look at the size of an airplane that was supposed to have hit the Pentagon. And I said, ‘The plane does not fit in that hole’. So what did hit the Pentagon? What hit it? Where is it? What's going on?" One Nation Under Siege - A William Lewis Film




Capt. Daniel Davis, U.S. Army – Former U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director. Decorated with the Bronze Star and the Soldiers Medal for bravery under fire and the Purple Heart for injuries sustained in Viet Nam. Also served in the Army Air Defense Command as Nike Missile Battery Control Officer for the Chicago-Milwaukee Defense Area. Founder and former CEO of Turbine Technology Services Corp., a turbine (jet engine) services and maintenance company (15 years). Former Senior Manager at General Electric Turbine (jet) Engine Division (15 years). Private pilot.

Statement to this website 3/23/07: "As a former General Electric Turbine engineering specialist and manager and then CEO of a turbine engineering company, I can guarantee that none of the high tech, high temperature alloy engines on any of the four planes that crashed on 9/11 would be completely destroyed, burned, shattered or melted in any crash or fire. Wrecked, yes, but not destroyed. Where are all of those engines, particularly at the Pentagon? If jet powered aircraft crashed on 9/11, those engines, plus wings and tail assembly, would be there.

Additionally, in my experience as an officer in NORAD as a Tactical Director for the Chicago-Milwaukee Air Defense and as a current private pilot, there is no way that an aircraft on instrument flight plans (all commercial flights are IFR) would not be intercepted when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop communication with Air Traffic Control. No way! With very bad luck, perhaps one could slip by, but no there's no way all four of them could!

Finally, going over the hill and highway and crashing into the Pentagon right at the wall/ground interface is nearly impossible for even a small slow single engine airplane and no way for a 757. Maybe the best pilot in the world could accomplish that but not these unskilled "terrorists".

Attempts to obscure facts by calling them a "Conspiracy Theory" does not change the truth. It seems, "Something is rotten in the State."

Every single one of these "claims" have been debunked, yet you choose to believe them. In reality circles it's called willful ingnorance.
 
Rosie O'Donnell? Yep. She's got a lotta power. :cuckoo: :cuckoo: :cuckoo: :cuckoo: :cuckoo:

this programed response just hi-lies your ignorance and media manipulatied opinion and associations...the media has manipulated you into associating 9/11 truth with a lesbian left wing comedy as opposed to....


Major General Albert Stubblebine, U.S. Army (ret) – Former Commanding General of U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command, 1981 - 1984. Also commanded the U.S. Army’s Electronic Research and Development Command and the U.S. Army’s Intelligence School and Center. Former head of Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence. 32-year Army career



.

Member, Military Intelligence Hall of Fame.
Video interview 6/28/09:

General Stubblebine: I am Major General Albert Stubblebine. I am retired Army Major-General. In my last assignment -- my last command -- I was responsible for all of the Army's strategic intelligence forces around the world. I had responsibility for the Signals Intelligence, Photo Intelligence, Counter Intelligence, Human Intelligence. They all belonged to me, in my last assignment. …

I was supposed to find out what the enemy was doing, before the enemy did it so that we could take action against the enemy. That's Intelligence, OK, before the fact. So, we always -- always -- rely not on a single piece of data, before we make a statement, but on multiple and the more pieces of data that you have that correlate, the better you know exactly what is going on. …

So I have had a lot of experience looking at photographs. I have looked at many, many different kinds of photographs, from many, many different platforms on many, many different countries, around the world.

Interviewer: OK. So on September the 11th, in 2001, what hit the Pentagon?

General Stubblebine: I don't know exactly what hit it, but I do know, from the photographs that I have analyzed and looked at very, very carefully, it was not an airplane.

Interviewer: What made you believe that?

General Stubblebine: Well, for one thing, if you look at the hole that was made in the Pentagon, the nose penetrated far enough so that there should have been wing marks on the walls of the Pentagon. I have been unable to find those wing marks. So where were they? Did this vessel -- vehicle, or whatever it was -- have wings? Apparently not, because if it had had wings, they would have made marks on the side of the Pentagon.

One person counteracted my theory, and said, "Oh, you've got it all wrong. And the reason that it's wrong is that as the airplane came across, one wing tipped down and hit the ground and broke off." I said, "Fine, that's possible, one wing could have broken off." But if I understand airplanes correctly, most airplanes have two wings. I haven't met an airplane with only one wing. So where was the mark for the second wing? OK, one broke off -- there should have been a mark for the second wing. I could not find that in any of the photographs that I've analyzed. Now I've been very careful to not say what went in there. Why? Because you don't have that evidence. …

I did -- I've never believed that it was an airplane since I've looked at the photographs. Up until the time I looked at the photographs, I accepted what was being said. After I looked at it -- NO WAY! …

We pride ourselves with the "free press." I do not believe the "free press" is free any more. It's very expensive. It's very expensive. And the press is saying what they have been told to say about this.

Now, do I have proof of that? No. But I believe that what is being -- what certainly the -- the stories that were told -- all about 9/11 were false. I mean, you take a look at the buildings falling down. They didn't fall down because airplanes hit them. They fell down because of explosives went off inside. Demolition. Look at Building 7, for God's sake. It didn't fall down to its side. It didn't fall to this direction or that direction; just like the two Towers. …

When you look at the temperatures that you can create with fuel in a gas tank or a fuel tank of an airplane, and then you investigate the amount of heat that would be required to melt -- to melt -- the superstructure of the buildings that came tumbling down, when you put all of that together, the one thing that shows; It does not match the facts. What is it they do not want the public to know? [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daNr_TrBw6E]YouTube - General of all American Intelligence: 911 was a fraud![/ame]


Video documentary One Nation Under Siege 7/11/06: "One of my experiences in the Army was being in charge of the Army’s Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence during the Cold War. I measured pieces of Soviet equipment from photographs. It was my job. I look at the hole in the Pentagon and I look at the size of an airplane that was supposed to have hit the Pentagon. And I said, ‘The plane does not fit in that hole’. So what did hit the Pentagon? What hit it? Where is it? What's going on?" One Nation Under Siege - A William Lewis Film




Capt. Daniel Davis, U.S. Army – Former U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director. Decorated with the Bronze Star and the Soldiers Medal for bravery under fire and the Purple Heart for injuries sustained in Viet Nam. Also served in the Army Air Defense Command as Nike Missile Battery Control Officer for the Chicago-Milwaukee Defense Area. Founder and former CEO of Turbine Technology Services Corp., a turbine (jet engine) services and maintenance company (15 years). Former Senior Manager at General Electric Turbine (jet) Engine Division (15 years). Private pilot.

Statement to this website 3/23/07: "As a former General Electric Turbine engineering specialist and manager and then CEO of a turbine engineering company, I can guarantee that none of the high tech, high temperature alloy engines on any of the four planes that crashed on 9/11 would be completely destroyed, burned, shattered or melted in any crash or fire. Wrecked, yes, but not destroyed. Where are all of those engines, particularly at the Pentagon? If jet powered aircraft crashed on 9/11, those engines, plus wings and tail assembly, would be there.

Additionally, in my experience as an officer in NORAD as a Tactical Director for the Chicago-Milwaukee Air Defense and as a current private pilot, there is no way that an aircraft on instrument flight plans (all commercial flights are IFR) would not be intercepted when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop communication with Air Traffic Control. No way! With very bad luck, perhaps one could slip by, but no there's no way all four of them could!

Finally, going over the hill and highway and crashing into the Pentagon right at the wall/ground interface is nearly impossible for even a small slow single engine airplane and no way for a 757. Maybe the best pilot in the world could accomplish that but not these unskilled "terrorists".

Attempts to obscure facts by calling them a "Conspiracy Theory" does not change the truth. It seems, "Something is rotten in the State."

Every single one of these "claims" have been debunked, yet you choose to believe them. In reality circles it's called willful ingnorance.

debunked by whom...where do you get such information..popular mechanics ?
 
Rosie O'Donnell? Yep. She's got a lotta power. :cuckoo: :cuckoo: :cuckoo: :cuckoo: :cuckoo:

this programed response just hi-lies your ignorance and media manipulatied opinion and associations...the media has manipulated you into associating 9/11 truth with a lesbian left wing comedy as opposed to....


Major General Albert Stubblebine, U.S. Army (ret) – Former Commanding General of U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command, 1981 - 1984. Also commanded the U.S. Army’s Electronic Research and Development Command and the U.S. Army’s Intelligence School and Center. Former head of Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence. 32-year Army career.

Member, Military Intelligence Hall of Fame.
Video interview 6/28/09:

General Stubblebine: I am Major General Albert Stubblebine. I am retired Army Major-General. In my last assignment -- my last command -- I was responsible for all of the Army's strategic intelligence forces around the world. I had responsibility for the Signals Intelligence, Photo Intelligence, Counter Intelligence, Human Intelligence. They all belonged to me, in my last assignment. …

I was supposed to find out what the enemy was doing, before the enemy did it so that we could take action against the enemy. That's Intelligence, OK, before the fact. So, we always -- always -- rely not on a single piece of data, before we make a statement, but on multiple and the more pieces of data that you have that correlate, the better you know exactly what is going on. …

So I have had a lot of experience looking at photographs. I have looked at many, many different kinds of photographs, from many, many different platforms on many, many different countries, around the world.

Interviewer: OK. So on September the 11th, in 2001, what hit the Pentagon?

General Stubblebine: I don't know exactly what hit it, but I do know, from the photographs that I have analyzed and looked at very, very carefully, it was not an airplane.

Interviewer: What made you believe that?

General Stubblebine: Well, for one thing, if you look at the hole that was made in the Pentagon, the nose penetrated far enough so that there should have been wing marks on the walls of the Pentagon. I have been unable to find those wing marks. So where were they? Did this vessel -- vehicle, or whatever it was -- have wings? Apparently not, because if it had had wings, they would have made marks on the side of the Pentagon.

One person counteracted my theory, and said, "Oh, you've got it all wrong. And the reason that it's wrong is that as the airplane came across, one wing tipped down and hit the ground and broke off." I said, "Fine, that's possible, one wing could have broken off." But if I understand airplanes correctly, most airplanes have two wings. I haven't met an airplane with only one wing. So where was the mark for the second wing? OK, one broke off -- there should have been a mark for the second wing. I could not find that in any of the photographs that I've analyzed. Now I've been very careful to not say what went in there. Why? Because you don't have that evidence. …

I did -- I've never believed that it was an airplane since I've looked at the photographs. Up until the time I looked at the photographs, I accepted what was being said. After I looked at it -- NO WAY! …

We pride ourselves with the "free press." I do not believe the "free press" is free any more. It's very expensive. It's very expensive. And the press is saying what they have been told to say about this.

Now, do I have proof of that? No. But I believe that what is being -- what certainly the -- the stories that were told -- all about 9/11 were false. I mean, you take a look at the buildings falling down. They didn't fall down because airplanes hit them. They fell down because of explosives went off inside. Demolition. Look at Building 7, for God's sake. It didn't fall down to its side. It didn't fall to this direction or that direction; just like the two Towers. …

When you look at the temperatures that you can create with fuel in a gas tank or a fuel tank of an airplane, and then you investigate the amount of heat that would be required to melt -- to melt -- the superstructure of the buildings that came tumbling down, when you put all of that together, the one thing that shows; It does not match the facts. What is it they do not want the public to know? [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daNr_TrBw6E]YouTube - General of all American Intelligence: 911 was a fraud![/ame]


Video documentary One Nation Under Siege 7/11/06: "One of my experiences in the Army was being in charge of the Army’s Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence during the Cold War. I measured pieces of Soviet equipment from photographs. It was my job. I look at the hole in the Pentagon and I look at the size of an airplane that was supposed to have hit the Pentagon. And I said, ‘The plane does not fit in that hole’. So what did hit the Pentagon? What hit it? Where is it? What's going on?" One Nation Under Siege - A William Lewis Film




Capt. Daniel Davis, U.S. Army – Former U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director. Decorated with the Bronze Star and the Soldiers Medal for bravery under fire and the Purple Heart for injuries sustained in Viet Nam. Also served in the Army Air Defense Command as Nike Missile Battery Control Officer for the Chicago-Milwaukee Defense Area. Founder and former CEO of Turbine Technology Services Corp., a turbine (jet engine) services and maintenance company (15 years). Former Senior Manager at General Electric Turbine (jet) Engine Division (15 years). Private pilot.

Statement to this website 3/23/07: "As a former General Electric Turbine engineering specialist and manager and then CEO of a turbine engineering company, I can guarantee that none of the high tech, high temperature alloy engines on any of the four planes that crashed on 9/11 would be completely destroyed, burned, shattered or melted in any crash or fire. Wrecked, yes, but not destroyed. Where are all of those engines, particularly at the Pentagon? If jet powered aircraft crashed on 9/11, those engines, plus wings and tail assembly, would be there.

Additionally, in my experience as an officer in NORAD as a Tactical Director for the Chicago-Milwaukee Air Defense and as a current private pilot, there is no way that an aircraft on instrument flight plans (all commercial flights are IFR) would not be intercepted when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop communication with Air Traffic Control. No way! With very bad luck, perhaps one could slip by, but no there's no way all four of them could!

Finally, going over the hill and highway and crashing into the Pentagon right at the wall/ground interface is nearly impossible for even a small slow single engine airplane and no way for a 757. Maybe the best pilot in the world could accomplish that but not these unskilled "terrorists".

Attempts to obscure facts by calling them a "Conspiracy Theory" does not change the truth. It seems, "Something is rotten in the State."

Every single one of these "claims" have been debunked, yet you choose to believe them. In reality circles it's called willful ingnorance.
In fact, National Geographic had a special this past weekend that debunked all these loons theories.
What is disgusting is that these loons try to take former military personnell and use their words as fact.
Here is a fact. I'm a former US Army Ranger, I too have a bronze star and purple heart, and I can honestly say that the two former military quoted above, are nutjobs to the core. Just as those who believe their loony drivel are.
 
Seriously, these spineless lil' weasels absolutely refuse to talk about the disgusting relationship between Obama and Jones.
You lib's do realize that Jones is a self avowed communist, 9/11 truther and, racist piece of garbage that Obama kept an arms length away from him.
Now, why might that be?
BECAUSE OBAMA IS ONE IN THE SAME!
Kudos to Beck and Hannity for continuing to expose these disgusting anti-american piles of shit. Kudos to them for exposing more of Obama's so called "Czars"
Kudos to them for exposing Obama as to what he truly is.
Notice how the loony Righties continue to try to villify, dehumanize and marginalize the elected President of the United States? It's almost as if they can't really believe that A) someone was legally elected to that office. And B) He's a black man!

I know that the Right will throw the "COMMUNIST" label around like a student throws a spitwad. Conservatives have been doing that since the turn of the 20th century (they got really good at it during the middle of the 20th century so the playbook stays in force).

I'm wondering how many thinking people the Conservatives believe will listen to their tired old diatribe now?

Beck is an idiot who should have paid attention in school. He is, in the words of Olbermann, Lonesome Rhodes! Hannity is just a few threads shy of wearing a hood himself.

Communism! The lifebuoy of the modern Conservative! Grab your tin foil, boys! Obama is going to begin beaming Socialism right through your skulls!

Looks like Obama listened. He has pulled the plug on Van Jones only after he was forced to do so. It is kind of like Rev Wright where only after it becomes widely known and a real weight on his cause that Obama throws these rotten folks under the bus.
 
Seriously, these spineless lil' weasels absolutely refuse to talk about the disgusting relationship between Obama and Jones.
You lib's do realize that Jones is a self avowed communist, 9/11 truther and, racist piece of garbage that Obama kept an arms length away from him.
Now, why might that be?
BECAUSE OBAMA IS ONE IN THE SAME!
Kudos to Beck and Hannity for continuing to expose these disgusting anti-american piles of shit. Kudos to them for exposing more of Obama's so called "Czars"
Kudos to them for exposing Obama as to what he truly is.
Notice how the loony Righties continue to try to villify, dehumanize and marginalize the elected President of the United States? It's almost as if they can't really believe that A) someone was legally elected to that office. And B) He's a black man!

I know that the Right will throw the "COMMUNIST" label around like a student throws a spitwad. Conservatives have been doing that since the turn of the 20th century (they got really good at it during the middle of the 20th century so the playbook stays in force).

I'm wondering how many thinking people the Conservatives believe will listen to their tired old diatribe now?

Beck is an idiot who should have paid attention in school. He is, in the words of Olbermann, Lonesome Rhodes! Hannity is just a few threads shy of wearing a hood himself.

Communism! The lifebuoy of the modern Conservative! Grab your tin foil, boys! Obama is going to begin beaming Socialism right through your skulls!

Looks like Obama listened. He has pulled the plug on Van Jones only after he was forced to do so. It is kind of like Rev Wright where only after it becomes widely known and a real weight on his cause that Obama throws these rotten folks under the bus.
It does seem to be a pattern with Obama.
Man, there's a whole lotta loony nutjobs being dragged around under busses right now!
 
this programed response just hi-lies your ignorance and media manipulatied opinion and associations...the media has manipulated you into associating 9/11 truth with a lesbian left wing comedy as opposed to....


Major General Albert Stubblebine, U.S. Army (ret) – Former Commanding General of U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command, 1981 - 1984. Also commanded the U.S. Army’s Electronic Research and Development Command and the U.S. Army’s Intelligence School and Center. Former head of Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence. 32-year Army career.

Member, Military Intelligence Hall of Fame.
Video interview 6/28/09:



General Stubblebine: I am Major General Albert Stubblebine. I am retired Army Major-General. In my last assignment -- my last command -- I was responsible for all of the Army's strategic intelligence forces around the world. I had responsibility for the Signals Intelligence, Photo Intelligence, Counter Intelligence, Human Intelligence. They all belonged to me, in my last assignment. …

I was supposed to find out what the enemy was doing, before the enemy did it so that we could take action against the enemy. That's Intelligence, OK, before the fact. So, we always -- always -- rely not on a single piece of data, before we make a statement, but on multiple and the more pieces of data that you have that correlate, the better you know exactly what is going on. …

So I have had a lot of experience looking at photographs. I have looked at many, many different kinds of photographs, from many, many different platforms on many, many different countries, around the world.

Interviewer: OK. So on September the 11th, in 2001, what hit the Pentagon?

General Stubblebine: I don't know exactly what hit it, but I do know, from the photographs that I have analyzed and looked at very, very carefully, it was not an airplane.

Interviewer: What made you believe that?

General Stubblebine: Well, for one thing, if you look at the hole that was made in the Pentagon, the nose penetrated far enough so that there should have been wing marks on the walls of the Pentagon. I have been unable to find those wing marks. So where were they? Did this vessel -- vehicle, or whatever it was -- have wings? Apparently not, because if it had had wings, they would have made marks on the side of the Pentagon.

One person counteracted my theory, and said, "Oh, you've got it all wrong. And the reason that it's wrong is that as the airplane came across, one wing tipped down and hit the ground and broke off." I said, "Fine, that's possible, one wing could have broken off." But if I understand airplanes correctly, most airplanes have two wings. I haven't met an airplane with only one wing. So where was the mark for the second wing? OK, one broke off -- there should have been a mark for the second wing. I could not find that in any of the photographs that I've analyzed. Now I've been very careful to not say what went in there. Why? Because you don't have that evidence. …

I did -- I've never believed that it was an airplane since I've looked at the photographs. Up until the time I looked at the photographs, I accepted what was being said. After I looked at it -- NO WAY! …

We pride ourselves with the "free press." I do not believe the "free press" is free any more. It's very expensive. It's very expensive. And the press is saying what they have been told to say about this.

Now, do I have proof of that? No. But I believe that what is being -- what certainly the -- the stories that were told -- all about 9/11 were false. I mean, you take a look at the buildings falling down. They didn't fall down because airplanes hit them. They fell down because of explosives went off inside. Demolition. Look at Building 7, for God's sake. It didn't fall down to its side. It didn't fall to this direction or that direction; just like the two Towers. …

When you look at the temperatures that you can create with fuel in a gas tank or a fuel tank of an airplane, and then you investigate the amount of heat that would be required to melt -- to melt -- the superstructure of the buildings that came tumbling down, when you put all of that together, the one thing that shows; It does not match the facts. What is it they do not want the public to know? YouTube - General of all American Intelligence: 911 was a fraud!


Video documentary One Nation Under Siege 7/11/06: "One of my experiences in the Army was being in charge of the Army’s Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence during the Cold War. I measured pieces of Soviet equipment from photographs. It was my job. I look at the hole in the Pentagon and I look at the size of an airplane that was supposed to have hit the Pentagon. And I said, ‘The plane does not fit in that hole’. So what did hit the Pentagon? What hit it? Where is it? What's going on?" One Nation Under Siege - A William Lewis Film




Capt. Daniel Davis, U.S. Army – Former U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director. Decorated with the Bronze Star and the Soldiers Medal for bravery under fire and the Purple Heart for injuries sustained in Viet Nam. Also served in the Army Air Defense Command as Nike Missile Battery Control Officer for the Chicago-Milwaukee Defense Area. Founder and former CEO of Turbine Technology Services Corp., a turbine (jet engine) services and maintenance company (15 years). Former Senior Manager at General Electric Turbine (jet) Engine Division (15 years). Private pilot.

Statement to this website 3/23/07: "As a former General Electric Turbine engineering specialist and manager and then CEO of a turbine engineering company, I can guarantee that none of the high tech, high temperature alloy engines on any of the four planes that crashed on 9/11 would be completely destroyed, burned, shattered or melted in any crash or fire. Wrecked, yes, but not destroyed. Where are all of those engines, particularly at the Pentagon? If jet powered aircraft crashed on 9/11, those engines, plus wings and tail assembly, would be there.

Additionally, in my experience as an officer in NORAD as a Tactical Director for the Chicago-Milwaukee Air Defense and as a current private pilot, there is no way that an aircraft on instrument flight plans (all commercial flights are IFR) would not be intercepted when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop communication with Air Traffic Control. No way! With very bad luck, perhaps one could slip by, but no there's no way all four of them could!

Finally, going over the hill and highway and crashing into the Pentagon right at the wall/ground interface is nearly impossible for even a small slow single engine airplane and no way for a 757. Maybe the best pilot in the world could accomplish that but not these unskilled "terrorists".

Attempts to obscure facts by calling them a "Conspiracy Theory" does not change the truth. It seems, "Something is rotten in the State."

Every single one of these "claims" have been debunked, yet you choose to believe them. In reality circles it's called willful ingnorance.
In fact, National Geographic had a special this past weekend that debunked all these loons theories.
What is disgusting is that these loons try to take former military personnell and use their words as fact.
Here is a fact. I'm a former US Army Ranger, I too have a bronze star and purple heart, and I can honestly say that the two former military quoted above, are nutjobs to the core. Just as those who believe their loony drivel are.

national geographic is no better than popular mechanics...these major media sources are all controlled by a handful of people...this is why interviews with NIST scientist and 9/11 commission members that denounce their own investigation are never shown or interviews with high level America in service men... or the piece would come out much differently and an army ranger is not a military hall of fame major general or a NORAD tac director or NASA presidential award recipient...etc etc




Dwain Deets, MS Physics, MS Eng – Former Director, Aerospace Projects, NASA Dryden Flight Research Center. Before this appointment, he served as Director, Research Engineering Division at Dryden. Recipient of the NASA Exceptional Service Award and the Presidential Meritorious Rank Award in the Senior Executive Service (1988). Selected presenter of the Wright Brothers Lectureship in Aeronautics, a distinguished speaking engagement sponsored by the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA) (1986). Included in "Who's Who in Science and Engineering" 1993 - 2000. Former Chairman of the Aerospace Control and Guidance Systems Committee of the Society of Automotive Engineers. Former Member, AIAA Committee on Society and Aerospace Technology. 37 year NASA career.
Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:


"The many visual images (massive structural members being hurled horizontally, huge pyroclastic clouds, etc.) leave no doubt in my mind explosives were involved [in the destruction of the World Trade Center]." AE911Truth


Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11, signed by more than 800 Architects and Engineers:

"On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 - specifically the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe that there is sufficient doubt about the official story and therefore that the 9/11 investigation must be re-opened and must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that may have been the actual cause behind the destruction of the World Trade Center Towers and WTC Building 7." Sign the Petition


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