North Carolina needed 6,500 farm workers. Only 7 Americans stuck it out.

[guno]

Lazy assed rubes


That data is interesting, because it describes the labor market before any immigrant workers are recruited. That, as Clemens says, "allows us to assess the willingness of native workers to take farm jobs before they can even be offered to foreign workers, meaning that this study does not miss any impact caused by people who self-select out of an area or occupation because of competition with foreign workers."

That willingness, he finds, is basically nonexistent. Every year from 1998 to 2012, at least 130,000 North Carolinians were unemployed. Of those, the number who asked to be referred to NCGA was never above 268 (and that number was only reached in 2011, when 489,095 North Carolinians were unemployed). The share of unemployed asking for referrals never breached 0.09 percent.

When native unemployed people are referred to NCGA, they're almost without exception hired; between 1998 and 2011, 97 percent of referred applicants were hired. But they don't tend to last.

Mexican workers are far likelier to stick through the season than native-born workers. About 90 percent were still working five months along, compared to less than 10 percent of native-born workers:

North Carolina needed 6,500 farm workers. Only 7 Americans stuck it out.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Lazy assed rubes


That data is interesting, because it describes the labor market before any immigrant workers are recruited. That, as Clemens says, "allows us to assess the willingness of native workers to take farm jobs before they can even be offered to foreign workers, meaning that this study does not miss any impact caused by people who self-select out of an area or occupation because of competition with foreign workers."

That willingness, he finds, is basically nonexistent. Every year from 1998 to 2012, at least 130,000 North Carolinians were unemployed. Of those, the number who asked to be referred to NCGA was never above 268 (and that number was only reached in 2011, when 489,095 North Carolinians were unemployed). The share of unemployed asking for referrals never breached 0.09 percent.

When native unemployed people are referred to NCGA, they're almost without exception hired; between 1998 and 2011, 97 percent of referred applicants were hired. But they don't tend to last.

Mexican workers are far likelier to stick through the season than native-born workers. About 90 percent were still working five months along, compared to less than 10 percent of native-born workers:

North Carolina needed 6,500 farm workers. Only 7 Americans stuck it out.

you have to be cut out to do that shit......the migrant farm workers out here are "born" into it...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

After we boot the illegals, we can start a temporary farm worker program.

 

[Tank]

There are more than 10,000 MS 13 gang members

 

[gallantwarrior]

Funny, I grew up in NC. There were very few "immigrants", illegal or otherwise. The farm work got done well enough by the "lazy rubes". Oh, yeah, government handouts were pretty much non-existent, too. Here's a suggestion, ship all the illegal invaders back to their places of origin. Eliminate public assistance, and then see how fast your "lazy rubes" find time and energy to do those agricultural jobs.

 

[Toro]

One company I know of re-opened a brewing plant. They received 500 applications for 100 jobs. All were Americans. They interviewed 250. Half failed the drug test. Most of the rest were offered jobs. 75 people showed up on the first day.

This was a year or two ago.

 

[MarathonMike]

Lazy assed rubes? As opposed to those poor Democrat work dynamos? Do you have any idea how hard that work is? Farmers definitely need MIGRANT farm workers for seasonal labor. That's different from Illegal Immigrants whose intent is to ignore the immigration process and settle here permanently. If you need me to explain the difference between migrant farm workers and illegal immigrants, let me know.

 

[charwin95]

Funny, I grew up in NC. There were very few "immigrants", illegal or otherwise. The farm work got done well enough by the "lazy rubes". Oh, yeah, government handouts were pretty much non-existent, too. Here's a suggestion, ship all the illegal invaders back to their places of origin. Eliminate public assistance, and then see how fast your "lazy rubes" find time and energy to do those agricultural jobs.

1. They did that in Georgia under HB-87 it didn't work so they let the illegals back in.
2. If you have 1 or more kids. How are you going to feed your family with those kind of income working in the field? Don't forget the babysitter when you go to work.

The Law Of Unintended Consequences: Georgia's Immigration Law Backfires

To forgo a repeat of last year, when labor shortages triggered an estimated $140 million in agricultural losses, as crops rotted in the fields, officials in Georgia are now dispatching prisoners to the state’s farms to help harvest fruit and vegetables.

The labor shortages, which also have affected the hotel and restaurant industries, are a consequence of Georgia’s immigration enforcement law, HB 87, which was passed last year. As State Rep. Matt Ramsey, one of the bill’s authors, said at the time, “Our goal is … to eliminate incentives for illegal aliens to cross into our state.”

Now he and others are learning: Be careful what you wish for, because you may get more than you bargained for.

 

[gallantwarrior]

Funny, I grew up in NC. There were very few "immigrants", illegal or otherwise. The farm work got done well enough by the "lazy rubes". Oh, yeah, government handouts were pretty much non-existent, too. Here's a suggestion, ship all the illegal invaders back to their places of origin. Eliminate public assistance, and then see how fast your "lazy rubes" find time and energy to do those agricultural jobs.

1. They did that in Georgia under HB-87 it didn't work so they let the illegals back in.
2. If you have 1 or more kids. How are you going to feed your family with those kind of income working in the field? Don't forget the babysitter when you go to work.

The Law Of Unintended Consequences: Georgia's Immigration Law Backfires

To forgo a repeat of last year, when labor shortages triggered an estimated $140 million in agricultural losses, as crops rotted in the fields, officials in Georgia are now dispatching prisoners to the state’s farms to help harvest fruit and vegetables.

The labor shortages, which also have affected the hotel and restaurant industries, are a consequence of Georgia’s immigration enforcement law, HB 87, which was passed last year. As State Rep. Matt Ramsey, one of the bill’s authors, said at the time, “Our goal is … to eliminate incentives for illegal aliens to cross into our state.”

Now he and others are learning: Be careful what you wish for, because you may get more than you bargained for.

I suppose I should clarify the "when" as well as where...When I was growing up in NC, public assistance was minimal, what little existed at the time. Mothers stayed at home, took care of the kids, the home, and the "bread winner". People lived within their means and we hadn't yet been recently visited by crippling inflation. If extra money was needed, Dad got a second job. When each of the kids started working, often in the fields and on farms, we were expected to pay room and board to the folks. Before we were old enough to work, we'd go around the neighborhood and mow lawns, weed gardens, babysit, or we'd collect pop bottles for the deposit money. If we were "poor" we never knew it because just about everyone else we knew was like us. People had a whole different concept of "poor" and most of the fathers I knew would have rather cut off their nuts than not be responsible for their families. If Mom had to work outside the home, Dad hadn't done his job and the family would be ashamed.
Biggest differences between then and now: no public handouts, people worked and earned their keep, those who didn't were ashamed; if something extra was needed, additional job(s) were acquired and children were expected to contribute family welfare; there is no shame anymore, anything goes and there are all kinds of excuses why someone has failed to make something of themselves.

 

[Muhammed]

Lazy assed rubes


That data is interesting, because it describes the labor market before any immigrant workers are recruited. That, as Clemens says, "allows us to assess the willingness of native workers to take farm jobs before they can even be offered to foreign workers, meaning that this study does not miss any impact caused by people who self-select out of an area or occupation because of competition with foreign workers."

That willingness, he finds, is basically nonexistent. Every year from 1998 to 2012, at least 130,000 North Carolinians were unemployed. Of those, the number who asked to be referred to NCGA was never above 268 (and that number was only reached in 2011, when 489,095 North Carolinians were unemployed). The share of unemployed asking for referrals never breached 0.09 percent.

When native unemployed people are referred to NCGA, they're almost without exception hired; between 1998 and 2011, 97 percent of referred applicants were hired. But they don't tend to last.

Mexican workers are far likelier to stick through the season than native-born workers. About 90 percent were still working five months along, compared to less than 10 percent of native-born workers:

North Carolina needed 6,500 farm workers. Only 7 Americans stuck it out.

you have to be cut out to do that shit......the migrant farm workers out here are "born" into it...

Any person who is not disabled can do farm work.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Lazy assed rubes


That data is interesting, because it describes the labor market before any immigrant workers are recruited. That, as Clemens says, "allows us to assess the willingness of native workers to take farm jobs before they can even be offered to foreign workers, meaning that this study does not miss any impact caused by people who self-select out of an area or occupation because of competition with foreign workers."

That willingness, he finds, is basically nonexistent. Every year from 1998 to 2012, at least 130,000 North Carolinians were unemployed. Of those, the number who asked to be referred to NCGA was never above 268 (and that number was only reached in 2011, when 489,095 North Carolinians were unemployed). The share of unemployed asking for referrals never breached 0.09 percent.

When native unemployed people are referred to NCGA, they're almost without exception hired; between 1998 and 2011, 97 percent of referred applicants were hired. But they don't tend to last.

Mexican workers are far likelier to stick through the season than native-born workers. About 90 percent were still working five months along, compared to less than 10 percent of native-born workers:

North Carolina needed 6,500 farm workers. Only 7 Americans stuck it out.

you have to be cut out to do that shit......the migrant farm workers out here are "born" into it...

Any person who is not disabled can do farm work.

yea they can do it.....the big question is....will they stick with it after they do it for a few weeks?......they have tried this shit many a time in california.....the answer is VERY few....thats why Cal has had the migrant farm worker program ...if you think some high school kid is going to bend over all day long in 110 degree heat for the wages those people get you must be smoking the good stuff.....

 

[Muhammed]

Lazy assed rubes


That data is interesting, because it describes the labor market before any immigrant workers are recruited. That, as Clemens says, "allows us to assess the willingness of native workers to take farm jobs before they can even be offered to foreign workers, meaning that this study does not miss any impact caused by people who self-select out of an area or occupation because of competition with foreign workers."

That willingness, he finds, is basically nonexistent. Every year from 1998 to 2012, at least 130,000 North Carolinians were unemployed. Of those, the number who asked to be referred to NCGA was never above 268 (and that number was only reached in 2011, when 489,095 North Carolinians were unemployed). The share of unemployed asking for referrals never breached 0.09 percent.

When native unemployed people are referred to NCGA, they're almost without exception hired; between 1998 and 2011, 97 percent of referred applicants were hired. But they don't tend to last.

Mexican workers are far likelier to stick through the season than native-born workers. About 90 percent were still working five months along, compared to less than 10 percent of native-born workers:

North Carolina needed 6,500 farm workers. Only 7 Americans stuck it out.

you have to be cut out to do that shit......the migrant farm workers out here are "born" into it...

Any person who is not disabled can do farm work.

yea they can do it.....the big question is....will they stick with it after they do it for a few weeks?......they have tried this shit many a time in california.....the answer is VERY few....thats why Cal has had the migrant farm worker program ...if you think some high school kid is going to bend over all day long in 110 degree heat for the wages those people get you must be smoking the good stuff.....

In other words, they need to pay them more.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Lazy assed rubes


That data is interesting, because it describes the labor market before any immigrant workers are recruited. That, as Clemens says, "allows us to assess the willingness of native workers to take farm jobs before they can even be offered to foreign workers, meaning that this study does not miss any impact caused by people who self-select out of an area or occupation because of competition with foreign workers."

That willingness, he finds, is basically nonexistent. Every year from 1998 to 2012, at least 130,000 North Carolinians were unemployed. Of those, the number who asked to be referred to NCGA was never above 268 (and that number was only reached in 2011, when 489,095 North Carolinians were unemployed). The share of unemployed asking for referrals never breached 0.09 percent.

When native unemployed people are referred to NCGA, they're almost without exception hired; between 1998 and 2011, 97 percent of referred applicants were hired. But they don't tend to last.

Mexican workers are far likelier to stick through the season than native-born workers. About 90 percent were still working five months along, compared to less than 10 percent of native-born workers:

North Carolina needed 6,500 farm workers. Only 7 Americans stuck it out.

you have to be cut out to do that shit......the migrant farm workers out here are "born" into it...

Any person who is not disabled can do farm work.

yea they can do it.....the big question is....will they stick with it after they do it for a few weeks?......they have tried this shit many a time in california.....the answer is VERY few....thats why Cal has had the migrant farm worker program ...if you think some high school kid is going to bend over all day long in 110 degree heat for the wages those people get you must be smoking the good stuff.....

In other words, they need to pay them more.

even if they paid more there are standards you have to meet,you have to pick a lot of produce,and try working in 110 degrees with no shade....lots of people either would not think its worth it or would not be able to tolerate the conditions....thats just the way it is,its a mental and physical thing that not everyone can do.....many of the migrants have been doing it their whole lives.....they are used to the conditions....joey the kid on summer vacation?,i dont think so....ben the guy who is unemployed?,will probably be back on unemployment after a few weeks.....its a lot harder then apparently, what some seem to think....

 

[guno]

Funny, I grew up in NC. There were very few "immigrants", illegal or otherwise. The farm work got done well enough by the "lazy rubes". Oh, yeah, government handouts were pretty much non-existent, too. Here's a suggestion, ship all the illegal invaders back to their places of origin. Eliminate public assistance, and then see how fast your "lazy rubes" find time and energy to do those agricultural jobs.

Funny, I grew up in NC.

Explains a lot

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Lazy assed rubes


That data is interesting, because it describes the labor market before any immigrant workers are recruited. That, as Clemens says, "allows us to assess the willingness of native workers to take farm jobs before they can even be offered to foreign workers, meaning that this study does not miss any impact caused by people who self-select out of an area or occupation because of competition with foreign workers."

That willingness, he finds, is basically nonexistent. Every year from 1998 to 2012, at least 130,000 North Carolinians were unemployed. Of those, the number who asked to be referred to NCGA was never above 268 (and that number was only reached in 2011, when 489,095 North Carolinians were unemployed). The share of unemployed asking for referrals never breached 0.09 percent.

When native unemployed people are referred to NCGA, they're almost without exception hired; between 1998 and 2011, 97 percent of referred applicants were hired. But they don't tend to last.

Mexican workers are far likelier to stick through the season than native-born workers. About 90 percent were still working five months along, compared to less than 10 percent of native-born workers:

North Carolina needed 6,500 farm workers. Only 7 Americans stuck it out.

Cut all the welfare checks and those 6500 jobs will be filled really quick.

 

[gallantwarrior]

Lazy assed rubes


That data is interesting, because it describes the labor market before any immigrant workers are recruited. That, as Clemens says, "allows us to assess the willingness of native workers to take farm jobs before they can even be offered to foreign workers, meaning that this study does not miss any impact caused by people who self-select out of an area or occupation because of competition with foreign workers."

That willingness, he finds, is basically nonexistent. Every year from 1998 to 2012, at least 130,000 North Carolinians were unemployed. Of those, the number who asked to be referred to NCGA was never above 268 (and that number was only reached in 2011, when 489,095 North Carolinians were unemployed). The share of unemployed asking for referrals never breached 0.09 percent.

When native unemployed people are referred to NCGA, they're almost without exception hired; between 1998 and 2011, 97 percent of referred applicants were hired. But they don't tend to last.

Mexican workers are far likelier to stick through the season than native-born workers. About 90 percent were still working five months along, compared to less than 10 percent of native-born workers:

North Carolina needed 6,500 farm workers. Only 7 Americans stuck it out.

you have to be cut out to do that shit......the migrant farm workers out here are "born" into it...

Any person who is not disabled can do farm work.

yea they can do it.....the big question is....will they stick with it after they do it for a few weeks?......they have tried this shit many a time in california.....the answer is VERY few....thats why Cal has had the migrant farm worker program ...if you think some high school kid is going to bend over all day long in 110 degree heat for the wages those people get you must be smoking the good stuff.....

Why do "those" people do the work for the wages they receive?

 

[gallantwarrior]

Lazy assed rubes


That data is interesting, because it describes the labor market before any immigrant workers are recruited. That, as Clemens says, "allows us to assess the willingness of native workers to take farm jobs before they can even be offered to foreign workers, meaning that this study does not miss any impact caused by people who self-select out of an area or occupation because of competition with foreign workers."

That willingness, he finds, is basically nonexistent. Every year from 1998 to 2012, at least 130,000 North Carolinians were unemployed. Of those, the number who asked to be referred to NCGA was never above 268 (and that number was only reached in 2011, when 489,095 North Carolinians were unemployed). The share of unemployed asking for referrals never breached 0.09 percent.

When native unemployed people are referred to NCGA, they're almost without exception hired; between 1998 and 2011, 97 percent of referred applicants were hired. But they don't tend to last.

Mexican workers are far likelier to stick through the season than native-born workers. About 90 percent were still working five months along, compared to less than 10 percent of native-born workers:

North Carolina needed 6,500 farm workers. Only 7 Americans stuck it out.

you have to be cut out to do that shit......the migrant farm workers out here are "born" into it...

Any person who is not disabled can do farm work.

yea they can do it.....the big question is....will they stick with it after they do it for a few weeks?......they have tried this shit many a time in california.....the answer is VERY few....thats why Cal has had the migrant farm worker program ...if you think some high school kid is going to bend over all day long in 110 degree heat for the wages those people get you must be smoking the good stuff.....

In other words, they need to pay them more.

even if they paid more there are standards you have to meet,you have to pick a lot of produce,and try working in 110 degrees with no shade....lots of people either would not think its worth it or would not be able to tolerate the conditions....thats just the way it is,its a mental and physical thing that not everyone can do.....many of the migrants have been doing it their whole lives.....they are used to the conditions....joey the kid on summer vacation?,i dont think so....ben the guy who is unemployed?,will probably be back on unemployment after a few weeks.....its a lot harder then apparently, what some seem to think....

And yet, it's amazing what can be done and tolerated when one is hungry enough.

 

[Muhammed]

Lazy assed rubes


That data is interesting, because it describes the labor market before any immigrant workers are recruited. That, as Clemens says, "allows us to assess the willingness of native workers to take farm jobs before they can even be offered to foreign workers, meaning that this study does not miss any impact caused by people who self-select out of an area or occupation because of competition with foreign workers."

That willingness, he finds, is basically nonexistent. Every year from 1998 to 2012, at least 130,000 North Carolinians were unemployed. Of those, the number who asked to be referred to NCGA was never above 268 (and that number was only reached in 2011, when 489,095 North Carolinians were unemployed). The share of unemployed asking for referrals never breached 0.09 percent.

When native unemployed people are referred to NCGA, they're almost without exception hired; between 1998 and 2011, 97 percent of referred applicants were hired. But they don't tend to last.

Mexican workers are far likelier to stick through the season than native-born workers. About 90 percent were still working five months along, compared to less than 10 percent of native-born workers:

North Carolina needed 6,500 farm workers. Only 7 Americans stuck it out.

you have to be cut out to do that shit......the migrant farm workers out here are "born" into it...

Any person who is not disabled can do farm work.

yea they can do it.....the big question is....will they stick with it after they do it for a few weeks?......they have tried this shit many a time in california.....the answer is VERY few....thats why Cal has had the migrant farm worker program ...if you think some high school kid is going to bend over all day long in 110 degree heat for the wages those people get you must be smoking the good stuff.....

In other words, they need to pay them more.

even if they paid more there are standards you have to meet,you have to pick a lot of produce,and try working in 110 degrees with no shade....lots of people either would not think its worth it or would not be able to tolerate the conditions....thats just the way it is,its a mental and physical thing that not everyone can do.....many of the migrants have been doing it their whole lives.....they are used to the conditions....joey the kid on summer vacation?,i dont think so....ben the guy who is unemployed?,will probably be back on unemployment after a few weeks.....its a lot harder then apparently, what some seem to think....

It is not very difficult work. If it is so physically demanding, how do you explain the fact that so many migrant farm workers are female?

 

[Harry Dresden]

Lazy assed rubes


That data is interesting, because it describes the labor market before any immigrant workers are recruited. That, as Clemens says, "allows us to assess the willingness of native workers to take farm jobs before they can even be offered to foreign workers, meaning that this study does not miss any impact caused by people who self-select out of an area or occupation because of competition with foreign workers."

That willingness, he finds, is basically nonexistent. Every year from 1998 to 2012, at least 130,000 North Carolinians were unemployed. Of those, the number who asked to be referred to NCGA was never above 268 (and that number was only reached in 2011, when 489,095 North Carolinians were unemployed). The share of unemployed asking for referrals never breached 0.09 percent.

When native unemployed people are referred to NCGA, they're almost without exception hired; between 1998 and 2011, 97 percent of referred applicants were hired. But they don't tend to last.

Mexican workers are far likelier to stick through the season than native-born workers. About 90 percent were still working five months along, compared to less than 10 percent of native-born workers:

North Carolina needed 6,500 farm workers. Only 7 Americans stuck it out.

you have to be cut out to do that shit......the migrant farm workers out here are "born" into it...

Any person who is not disabled can do farm work.

yea they can do it.....the big question is....will they stick with it after they do it for a few weeks?......they have tried this shit many a time in california.....the answer is VERY few....thats why Cal has had the migrant farm worker program ...if you think some high school kid is going to bend over all day long in 110 degree heat for the wages those people get you must be smoking the good stuff.....

Why do "those" people do the work for the wages they receive?

why dont you ask one of them?....

 

[Harry Dresden]

you have to be cut out to do that shit......the migrant farm workers out here are "born" into it...

Any person who is not disabled can do farm work.

yea they can do it.....the big question is....will they stick with it after they do it for a few weeks?......they have tried this shit many a time in california.....the answer is VERY few....thats why Cal has had the migrant farm worker program ...if you think some high school kid is going to bend over all day long in 110 degree heat for the wages those people get you must be smoking the good stuff.....

In other words, they need to pay them more.

even if they paid more there are standards you have to meet,you have to pick a lot of produce,and try working in 110 degrees with no shade....lots of people either would not think its worth it or would not be able to tolerate the conditions....thats just the way it is,its a mental and physical thing that not everyone can do.....many of the migrants have been doing it their whole lives.....they are used to the conditions....joey the kid on summer vacation?,i dont think so....ben the guy who is unemployed?,will probably be back on unemployment after a few weeks.....its a lot harder then apparently, what some seem to think....

It is not very difficult work. If it is so physically demanding, how do you explain the fact that so many migrant farm workers are female?

thats not true,the great majority are young males.....and its not difficult,its physically tough....give it a try some time mohammad....
The National Agricultural Workers Survey, Employment & Training Administration (ETA) - U.S. Department of Labor

Summary of Findings

• Farm workers were young: their average age was 33, and half were younger than 31.
• Seventy-nine percent were men.
• Fifty-seven percent were living apart from all nuclear family members when they were interviewed.

http://www.unctv.org/content/sites/default/files/0000011508-fs-Migrant Demographics.pdf

Gender and Family
79 percent of migrant and seasonal farm workers were male and 21 percent were female. Women were more likely to be born in the United States than men, with 33 percent of women and 20 percent of men being U.S.- born citizens.