No to mosque at Ground Zero Petition

[skookerasbil]

You stick a finger in the eye of a bunch of native Brooklyn guys, trust me, you end up in a wheelchair if you're lucky!!

 

[Kalam]

how about I help you both out.

Big mistake. You're in for a nice, freshly-crapped heap of steaming bullshit.

 

[syrenn]

how about I help you both out.

Big mistake. You're in for a nice, freshly-crapped heap of steaming bullshit.

You said it Kalam. And why is it a mistake?

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

how about I help you both out.

Big mistake. You're in for a nice, freshly-crapped heap of steaming bullshit.

proceed.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

how about I help you both out.

Big mistake. You're in for a nice, freshly-crapped heap of steaming bullshit.

what mistake and how big?

 

[Kalam]

how about I help you both out.

Big mistake. You're in for a nice, freshly-crapped heap of steaming bullshit.

You said it Kalam. And why is it a mistake?

Because the poster in question is a worthless troll. Feeding trolls is always a mistake.

 

[syrenn]

Big mistake. You're in for a nice, freshly-crapped heap of steaming bullshit.

You said it Kalam. And why is it a mistake?

Because the poster in question is a worthless troll. Feeding trolls is always a mistake.

And just how am i supposed to know that?

 

[Kalam]

You said it Kalam. And why is it a mistake?

Because the poster in question is a worthless troll. Feeding trolls is always a mistake.

And just how am i supposed to know that?

Oh, I didn't expect you to; you haven't had the chance to find out on your own. I was just warning you.

 

[syrenn]

Because the poster in question is a worthless troll. Feeding trolls is always a mistake.

And just how am i supposed to know that?

Oh, I didn't expect you to; you haven't had the chance to find out on your own. I was just warning you.

Well thank you for the warning.

 

[Kalam]

And just how am i supposed to know that?

Oh, I didn't expect you to; you haven't had the chance to find out on your own. I was just warning you.

Well thank you for the warning.

You're welcome.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Big mistake. You're in for a nice, freshly-crapped heap of steaming bullshit.

You said it Kalam. And why is it a mistake?

Because the poster in question is a worthless troll. Feeding trolls is always a mistake.

Kalam's Dictionary:worthless troll
Any one who objections to Islam.
IE http://www.usmessageboard.com/religion-and-ethics/81748-islam-forbids.html?highlight=islam+forbids

 

[EriktheRed]

Well, you keep hearing so many Cons insist they're not against the religion, just its extremists, but something like this suggests otherwise.


Get ready to break out the crescent armbands if these pricks get control again.

 

[Intense]

Well, you keep hearing so many Cons insist they're not against the religion, just its extremists, but something like this suggests otherwise.


Get ready to break out the crescent armbands if these pricks get control again.

I don't think it is that simple Erik. Anyone in the way of a terrorist objective risks getting creamed, Christian, Jew, Muslim, Atheist. We are all at risk to terror plots. The issue of the thread is the sensitivity to the location of the planned Cultural Capital. Consider the possibility of someplace more neutral. True there are other issues, all secondary.

I have personally known people who pray for the victims of 911, I have personally known people who pray for those they considered martyrs, the hijacker's themselves. I have personally known people that prayed for All lost lives on that day. It is rightly so, even Christ taught us to pray for our enemies. That is tough, Conscience can be tough. The issue with some, and to each, a wrestle with conscience, is the rewarding and celebrating of the act. I pray that this is not the case with the majority, it is not for me to judge the intents of people's heart's when they pray. I do sympathize with the hurt and pain of the Survivors, Democrat and Republican, Liberal , Conservative, Believer and Non Believer. The process needs to take it's course with free debate and exchange. What will be will be.

 

[Anguille]

Nobody can ever accuse you of profiling huh??? Ever try educating rather than ridiculing for a change of pace Sparky???

I was wrong. Nothing more hilarious than an urban redneck with a pal from the 'burbs.

Queen's is not the burbs. It is the second most populated borough, next to Brooklyn, and the most diverse. Good try though.

Golly gosh gumdrops! I stand corrected!!! I bow before you, O Cosmopolitan One!!

 

[Intense]

I was wrong. Nothing more hilarious than an urban redneck with a pal from the 'burbs.

Queen's is not the burbs. It is the second most populated borough, next to Brooklyn, and the most diverse. Good try though.

Golly gosh gumdrops! I stand corrected!!! I bow before you, O Cosmopolitan One!!

Christian, Jew , Muslim, alike, we bow only to our maker. Except for Obama. He bows to most every one. Learn this Grasshopper, live a bountiful life.

 

[Intense]

The Ground Zero Mosque Developer: Muslim Brotherhood Roots, Radical Dreams
AlyssaA.Lappen 20 May 2010
By Alyssa A. Lappen

Everything there is to know about Faisal Abdul Rauf, the wolf in sheep’s clothing behind the planned lower Manhattan mega-mosque.


The prospective developer of a $100 million, 13-story mosque 600 feet from Ground Zero presents himself as a Muslim moderate (1). Yet Kuwait-born Feisal Abdul Rauf also boasts of his issue from an "Egyptian family steeped in religious scholarship” (2). Indeed, Feisal Rauf’s Muslim Brotherhood provenance, radical by definition, is as authentic as it gets.




Rauf’s father, Dr. Muhammad Abdul Rauf (1917-2004) — an Egyptian contemporary of Muslim Brotherhood founder Hassan al-Banna — conveyed to Feisal his family’s long tradition of radicalism, which he acquired at Islam’s closest equivalent to the Vatican, Al-Azhar University. The elder Dr. Rauf studied and taught there before fleeing Egypt in 1948. That year, Feisal Abdul Rauf was born in Kuwait.



Feisal Rauf has planned for some time to further develop his father’s U.S. Islamic expansionism. In 1990, Rauf opened the tiny al-Farah Mosque at 245 West Broadway in lower Manhattan. Area residents did not even notice the mosque until 2006, when the New York State Liquor Authority (SLA) refused to license a new bar on the same block and started yanking others’ liquor licenses (3).



Rauf attended grammar school and high school in the UK and Malaysia, according to his biography. He probably first lived in America only in 1965, at age 17, when his father moved from Malaysia to New York to plan and head the Islamic Cultural Center (not built until the mid-1980s) (4). Rauf then obtained a BS in physics at Columbia University (5). In 1971, the family moved to Washington, D.C., where Rauf’s father headed the Islamic Center on Massachusetts Ave. (6) His father, buried in Suitland, MD, at the for-profit Washington National Cemetery, also founded three Malaysian Islamic studies programs, including the International Islamic University of Malaysia (7).




Rauf’s early UK education and familiarization with American popular culture and values made him an acutely adept practitioner of Islamic taqiyya — deceptive speech and action to advance the interests and supremacy of Islam (8). To further that Islamic advancement, Rauf in 1997 established the American Society for Muslim Advancement (ASMA). His Kashmir-born wife Daisy Kahn, an interior designer by profession, has run the organization since 2005 (9).



Rauf then began cultivating new spheres of influence. In about summer 2002, Rauf started lecturing on Islam at the 750-acre southwestern New York campus of Chautauqua Institution, a 136-year-old non-profit where religion director Joan Brown Campbell took Rauf under her wing. Under the rubric of the "Abrahamic” faiths, a convenient cover for Rauf’s Islamic activities, Campbell subsequently named him the prospective head of a Muslim house now planned on campus by another Rauf brainchild — the 501(3)c organization Muslim Friends of Chautauqua. Rauf also befriended Karen Armstrong, the former British nun and devotee of Islam.




In summer 2002, as a "theologian in residence,” Armstrong advocated for the Muslim Brotherhood — as if the father of all Islamic terrorist organizations was a progressive charity:

[The MB] set up a wonderful welfare program before it was suppressed. … Factories where Muslims could work, had time for prayers, had vacation time, insurance, [learned] labor laws, [provided] clinics, they taught people how to treat sewage, drainage, and it was always the religions response to try to help modernity to give to the ordinary people the benefits of modernity in an Islamic setting that made sense to them and made things more balanced (10).


In 2003, Rauf befriended leaders of Denver’s Aspen Institute, including former executive director and four-term Aspen mayor John S. Bennet. In 2004, under ASMA auspices, Rauf organized a meeting of 125 young Muslims and formed Muslim Leaders of Tomorrow. With Bennet’s help, he co-founded the Cordoba Initiative in Aspen, purportedly to "improve” Muslim-West relations (11). Rauf gets funding from a variety of other liberal organizations, including, for example, Gloria Steinem’s Ms. Foundation.




However, Rauf directly contradicted his conciliatory behavior with a firebrand interview with the Sydney Morning Herald. Terrorism, he stated, will end only when the West acknowledges the harm it has done to Muslims:



The West’s role during World War II was strictly defensive, and in no way religious. Moreover, Rauf’s statements — which Daisy Kahn glossed over in a December 2009 Fox News interview with Laura Ingraham — ignored Islam’s continuous attacks, from the 7th to 16th centuries, on non-Muslim peoples throughout the Mideast, Africa, Europe, central Asia, and India (12).

The Islamic method of waging war is not to kill innocent civilians. … It was Christians in World War II who bombed civilians in Dresden and Hiroshima, neither of which were military targets (12).


Rauf further revealed his antagonistic sentiments in the 2006 Copenhagen gathering he organized for the Muslim Leaders of Tomorrow. To enhance his moderate cloak, Rauf invited such liberal Muslims as Irshad Manji and Mona Eltahawy. But the Muslim leaders of Tomorrow also includes radicals like Yasir Qadhi — a favorite speaker at conferences of the Muslim Brotherhood’s Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), and Dhaba "Debbie” Almontasser, who works closely with Hamas’ U.S. arm — the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), itself an unindicted co-conspirator in terror financing.




Perhaps Rauf founded the Cordoba Initiative in 2004 intending to build a mosque in downtown Manhattan directly across from Ground Zero. However, Rauf tipped his hand to authorities only in April 2009, when he incorporated the Cordoba Initiative in New York (13). Within months, in July 2009, he bought a future mosque site at 45 Park Place for $4.58 million in cash from the heirs to New York’s Pomerantz family.



As Islamic attacks on September 11, 2001, destroyed the World Trade Center towers, falling jet debris simultaneously crushed the five-story 1923 structure some 600 feet away that until that morning housed a robust Burlington Coat Factory store (14). Over the ruin of the former retail outlet, Rauf now plans to build a 13-story, $100 million mosque. Rauf says the Cordoba Initiative bought the former retail building to prove to the world that Islam is not a violent faith (14).



Imam Rauf says that New York Muslims provided nearly $5 million in cash to buy the Park Place building (16). Yet in fiscal 2009, Rauf’s ASMA received large international donations. In the year ended June 30, 2009 — days before Feisal closed the purchase — ASMA received at least $1.3 million. The largest donation, $576,312, came from Qatar (17). That Persian Gulf nation has long harbored terror financiers, and even the government stands accused of funding international terrorism. Qatar also has, for decades, hosted Muslim Brotherhood spiritual chief Yusuf al-Qaradawi. The elderly sheikh, a large and founding shareholder in the terror-financing al-Taqwa Bank, champions sharia law, wife beating, and suicide bombing.




ASMA also received $481,942 from Holland’s Millennial Development Goals Fund (MDG3), $144,752 from New York’s Carnegie Corporation, $53,664 from the U.N. Population Fund (UNFPA), plus donations from the Rockefeller Brothers and Hunt Alternatives funds, among others (18).



The Ground Zero mosque plan is more than a little reminiscent of a program initiated by Rauf’s late father in 1965. That year, Muhammad R. Abdul Rauf moved to New York to plan and head a huge Islamic Cultural Center that took decades to realize (19). He bought prime Manhattan real estate at 96th St. and 3rd Ave — roughly two thirds of a city block — apparently with $1.3 million in funding from Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, and Libya. The late Rauf long retained some of that land in a personal trust (19). But when construction started on the $17 million mosque in 1984, it had received funding from 46 Islamic nations. By 2010, the enormous Islamic complex had added another two buildings. Since 1984, its founders-envisioned apartment unit has been restricted to Muslims alone (20).




Whenever Feisal first considered building a mosque across from Ground Zero, he had the idea firmly in mind by 2004, when he wrote What’s Right with Islam. The book was translated into many languages. In Indonesia’s Bahasa, its title translates as "The Call from the WTC Rubble.” Rauf promoted the book in December 2007 at a Kuala Lumpur gathering of Hizb ut Tahrir (20) — an organization banned in Germany since 2003, and also outlawed in Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Tunisia, Turkey, and Saudi Arabia, among other places — and ideologically akin to the MB. Both seek to replace the U.S. Constitution with Islamic law (sharia), and eventually impose Islam and sharia law worldwide. Most North American MB organizations avoid widely publicizing that aim. The HT however, at a July 2009 Khalifah conference at a suburban Chicago Hilton, openly promised to replace capitalism with Islam and sharia law (21).



Feisal Rauf supports sharia law, too.




Described in one Asian report as an Egyptian citizen living in the U.S., he has repeatedly stated, and writes in his 2004 book, that the U.S. Constitution is sharia-compliant. The "American Constitution and system of governance uphold the core principles of Islamic law,” Rauf wrote in his book. The "American political structure is Shariah-compliant,” he contends, since Muslim jurists over the centuries have "defined five areas of life” to be protected by Islamic law — life, mind, religion, property, and family. Only two further actions could render the U.S. more Islamic than it is already, Rauf contends:

[Inviting] voices of all religions to join the dialogue in shaping the nation’s practical life, [and allowing] religious communities more leeway to judge among themselves according to their own laws (22).


These assertions, however, merely fulfill the Muslim Brotherhood doctrine of flexibility — adapting to each and every environment in which the brothers eventually hope to force Islamic law upon the masses. Rauf’s claims starkly represent taqiyya, the Islamic practice of deception, to further theocratic and essentially fascist Islamic advances (23). And the additional "leeway” Rauf seeks for intra-community religious-law enforcement is a thinly veiled attempt to impose shariah more widely in the U.S., in direct contravention of the U.S. Constitution.




President Obama’s June 2009 speech in Cairo challenged Muslims, as Rauf wrote in a June 5, 2009 Washington Post column (24): "Live up to the tenets of our religion, embrace Shariah law as conceived by the Prophet, and see what happens.” But sharia inhibits all kinds of freedoms, especially those of women and non-Muslims. Islamic law protects only the lives, minds, religion, property, and families of Muslims — not all peoples of all faiths, as Rauf would have us believe (25).



Since at least 2006, Rauf’s Cordoba Initiative has partnered with the Gallup Organization and "a team of Sunni and Shi’a scholars from Morocco to Indonesia” to create "an Islamic legal benchmark for measuring ‘Islamicity’ of a state” for use by the public, pundits, "and state officials in both the Muslim and Western worlds.” If the U.S. is so sharia-compliant, and Rauf so strongly supports Western democracy and separation of mosque and state, why has his U.S.-based institution initiated such a project? Funded by Malaysia and many other Muslim nations in the 57-member Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC), no less?




Rauf has often directly contradicted his seemingly tolerant and peace-loving pronouncements with harsh, antagonistic assessments of the U.S. In his May 7 Khutbah (Muslim sabbath sermon), delivered at 1:00 p.m. at 45 Park Place in Manhattan, Rauf implied that Muslims did not perpetrate 9/11 at all, according to writer Madeline Brooks, who attended (26): "Some people say it was Muslims who attacked on 9/11 … ” he stated, before trailing off into another topic.



He also expressed this view in an interview with 60 Minutes aired on Sept. 30, 2001 as well (27):

The attacks were "a reaction against the U.S. government politically, where we espouse principles of democracy and human rights, [yet] … ally ourselves with oppressive regimes in many of these countries. … [U.S.] policies were an accessory to the crime that happened.


Not the crimes Muslims committed: "the crime that happened.” He continued:

In … the most direct sense, Osama bin Laden was made in the USA (28).


Rauf explained the Islamic disdain for life, as well:

In the Islamic belief system, the next life is the primary life. The next life is more real, more intense, and more vivid.


In short, Islam reveres death. Indeed, Islam orders its adherents to conduct jihad warfare, and promises paradise and 72 virgins to those who die in the service of Allah (29).



Even Cordoba Institute’s name telegraphs the organization’s deceptiveness. Cordoba (also the name for Chautauqua’s proposed new Muslim house) was the seat of the Islamic Caliphate that ruled most of Spain from Tariq ibn Zayid’s 711 invasion through 1248, and controlled parts of Spain until its full liberation in 1492. However, neither the Umayyads (who ruled monolithically until about 1031), nor the particularly vicious Almoravids (who swept over the Atlas mountains and, in 1080, into Spain) ruled non-Muslims kindly. While Islamic harshness varied, it remained unquestionably ever-present.




Rauf is not alone in his blatant whitewash of Islam’s brutal history in Spain. Many others purvey the same historical falsehood. Yet Muslim rule in Spain never remotely approached the mythic level of beneficence that Rauf pretends (30).



The surviving victims of 9/11 and families of the deceased should not be alone in opposing Rauf’s proposed 13-story mosque, 600 feet from the World Trade Center site. Traditionally, Muslims have destroyed houses of worship built by virtually every other faith under the sun. Worldwide, Islam has plundered tens of thousands (if not more) of Christian churches, Jewish synagogues and holy archaeological sites, plus Hindu, Buddhist, Zoroastrian, Sikh, and other temples and monasteries. Then, in the interest of jihad, Islam has claimed all these religious places of others as their own "mosques,” forever Muslim.



To allow a mosque at a place a Muslim gang destroyed on 9/11 would amount to formally blessing Islam’s 1,400-year-old tradition of exclusivity and suppression of all persons of all other faiths. It would be a 100% victory of Islam and sharia law over the U.S. Constitution and America’s time-honored democracy and pluralism.

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NOTES:

1 Feisal Abdul Rauf biography, ASMA SOCIETY | American Society for Muslim Advancement (viewed 4/28/2010).

2 Feisal Abdul Rauf biography, ASMA SOCIETY | American Society for Muslim Advancement (viewed 4/28/2010).

3 Carl Glassman, "West Broadway bars facing license ban,” Tribeca Trib, Mar. 31, 2006, Untitled Document (viewed 5/20/2007).

4 Rauf bio, ASMA SOCIETY | American Society for Muslim Advancement, ibid.; Islamic Cultural Center of New York, Islamic Cultural Center of New York - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (viewed 5/9/2010).

5 Rauf bio, ASMA SOCIETY | American Society for Muslim Advancement, ibid.

6 Islamic Center of Washington, Islamic Center of Washington - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (viewed 5/9/2010).

7 Salmy Hashim, "Islamic scholar Tan Sri Dr. Muhammad Abdul Rauf Dies,” Bernama, the Malaysian National News Agency, Dec. 12, 2004, ibid.; Jaclyn Ling-Chien Neo, "’Anti-God, anti-Islam and anti-Quran’: Expanding the range of participants and parameters in discourse over women’s rights and Islam in Malaysia,” Pacific Basin Law Journal, Vol. 21:29, 2003, p. 69, Paper not found abstractid=753226&mirid=1 (viewed 5/7/2010).

8 Ikhwan website, http://www.ummah.net/ikhwan/ (viewed 6/4/2008); The Muslim Brotherhood charter calls on members to sidestep attention through their long-established "flexibility” strategy — muruna in Arabic. To spread Islam, a basic requirement of shari’a or Islamic law, MB adherents also routinely practice concealment, known alternatively as either taqiyya or kitman. Ikhwan website, http://www.ummah.net/ikhwan/ (viewed 6/4/2008); The Muslim Brotherhood charter calls on members to sidestep attention through their long-established "flexibility” strategy — muruna in Arabic. To spread Islam, a basic requirement of shari’a or Islamic law, MB adherents also routinely practice concealment, known alternatively as either taqiyya or kitman. See also Warner MacKenzie, "Understanding Taqiyya: Islamic principle of lying for the sake of Allah,” Islam-Watch, Apr. 30, 2007, http://www.islam-watch.org/Warner/Taqiyya-Islamic-Principle-Lying-for- Allah.htm (viewed 5/16/2010).

9 "Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf,” chairman, Cordoba Institute, Staff Bios | Cordoba (viewed 5/11/2010).; Daisy Kahn biography, ASMA SOCIETY | American Society for Muslim Advancement (viewed 5/12/2010).

10 Quotation in Chautauqua institution panel, summer 2002.

11 American Society for Muslim Advancement Financial statement for period ended Jun. 30, 2009, p. 9, http://www.asmasociety.org/about/asma_audit_2009.pdf (viewed 5/10/2010).

12 Frank Walker, "We must act to end jihad: imam,” Sydney Sun-Herald, Mar. 21, 2004, West must act to end jihad: Imam - SpecialsAustraliaonGuard - www.smh.com.au (viewed 4/5/2004).

12 Bat Ye’or, The Decline of Eastern Christianity, ibid; Andrew G. Bostom, Legacy of Jihad, ibid.

13 American Society for Muslim Advancement Financial statement for period ended Jun. 30, 2009, p. 9, http://www.asmasociety.org/about/asma_audit_2009.pdf (viewed 5/10/2010).

14 Marc Pitzke, "Finding Allah at Ground Zero: A new Manhattan mosque hopes to heal,” Spiegel Online, Dec. 17, 2009, SPIEGEL ONLINE - Druckversion - Finding Allah at Ground Zero: A New Manhattan Mosque Hopes to Heal - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International (viewed 5/10/2010); "9/11 Firefighter opposes mosque at Ground Zero as "a Trojan horse rolled onto our most sacred ground”, asks "Where is the money coming from?” The Jawa Report, May 8, 2010, The Jawa Report: 9/11 Firefighter opposes mosque at Ground Zero as "a Trojan horse rolled onto our most sacred ground", asks "Where is the money coming from?" (viewed 5/9/2010);

14 Gadi Adelman, "Exclusive: Spitting in the Face of Everyone Murdered on 9/11,” Family Security Matters, May 10, 2010, Search Family Security Matters sp (viewed 5/10/2010); Matt Dunning, "CB1 committee hails plan for a mosque two blocks from WTC site,” Tribeca Trib, May 10, 2010, http://www.tribecatrib.com/news/2010/may/603_cb1-committee-hails-plans -for-a-mosque-two-blocks-from-world-trade-center-site.html (viewed 5/10/2010).

16 "9/11 Firefighter opposes mosque at Ground Zero as "a Trojan horse rolled onto our most sacred ground”, asks "Where is the money coming from?” The Jawa Report, May 8, 2010, The Jawa Report: 9/11 Firefighter opposes mosque at Ground Zero as "a Trojan horse rolled onto our most sacred ground", asks "Where is the money coming from?" (viewed 5/9/2010); Christian Salazar, "Some 9/11 families angry about plans for Ground Zero mosque,” Associated Press, May 7, 2010, Some 9/11 families angry about plans for Ground Zero mosque | KBOI CBS 2 - News, Weather and Sports Boise, Idaho | National & World News (viewed 5/10/2010).

17 American Society for Muslim Advancement Financial statement for period ended Jun. 30, 2009, p. 8, http://www.asmasociety.org/about/asma_audit_2009.pdf (viewed 5/10/2010), as cited by Gadi Adelman, "Exclusive: Spitting in the Face of Everyone Murdered on 9/11,” Family Security Matters, May 10, 2010, Search Family Security Matters sp (viewed 5/10/2010).

18 ASMA Financial statement for year ended Jun. 30, 2009, p. 8, http://www.asmasociety.org/about/asma_audit_2009.pdf , ibid, as cited by Gadi Adelman, "Exclusive: Spitting in the Face of Everyone Murdered on 9/11,” Family Security Matters, ibid, Search Family Security Matters sp.

19 Salmy Hashim, "Islamic scholar Tan Sri Dr. Muhammad Abdul Rauf Dies,” Bernama, the Malaysian National News Agency, Dec. 12, 2004, http://findarticles.com/p/news-articles/bernama-malaysian-national-new s-agency/mi_8082/is_20041212/islamic-scholar-tan-sri-dr/ai_n51486662/ (viewed 5/4/2010).

19 George Goodman, "Ground broken for Islamic Center,” New York Times, Oct. 28, 1984, http://www.nytimes.com/1984/10/28/realestate/ground-broken-for-islamic -center.html?&pagewanted=print (viewed 5/10/2010); Islamic Cultural Center of New York, Islamic Cultural Center of New York - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (viewed 5/9/2010).; Hashim, "Islamic scholar Tan Sri Dr. Muhammad Abdul Rauf Dies,” ibid.

20 Goodman, ibid.; David Dunlap, "A new mosque for Manhattan for the 21st century,” New York Times, Apr. 26, 1992, http://www.nytimes.com/1992/04/26/arts/architecture-a-new-mosque-for-m anhattan-for-the-21st-century.html?pa


The Ground Zero Mosque Developer: Muslim Brotherhood Roots, Radical Dreams | EuropeNews

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u1PQn3KtoM]YouTube - Robert Spencer/Deborah Burlingame hannity Stop the 9/11 mosque[/ame]

 

[skookerasbil]

Well, you keep hearing so many Cons insist they're not against the religion, just its extremists, but something like this suggests otherwise.


Get ready to break out the crescent armbands if these pricks get control again.

OK.......I nominate this altruistic PC dumbass to put up some of the Gitmo good guys!!!!

 

[skookerasbil]

YouTube - Robert Spencer/Deborah Burlingame hannity Stop the 9/11 mosque

indeed.........termites is an appropriate analogy bro...................


And it sucks to know the liberal k00ks in this country more than happy to feed them!!!!

 

[traveler52]

No to mosque at Ground Zero Petition


Planting a mosque just two blocks from where Muslims murdered Americans on 9/11 in the name of Islam is a huge slap in the face. Why shouldn’t Muslims be sensitive enough to realize that a huge mosque planted right near the horrific wound to the U.S. created at Ground Zero by Muslims is outrageous to us? They claim a right to be insulted by cartoons mocking their prophet, even to the point of beheading people.

The Imam of the Ground Zero Insult, Faisal Abdul Rauf, is not the nice guy he likes to hold himself out to be. At his Friday afternoon khutbah services and in his book What’s Right With Islam Rauf states that he wants the mosque to be a place where inter-faith understanding is fostered. His sonorous voice is smooth and almost hypnotic. His writing style appears to be rational and unthreatening.

However, this does not jibe with the aspects of him that are downright hostile and frightening.

During a recent Friday sermon, this writer did due diligence as a mosque monitor and heard Rauf deny that Muslims perpetrated 9/11. In an interview with CNN shortly after 9/11, Rauf said, “U.S. policies were an accessory to the crime that happened. We [the U.S.] have been an accessory to a lot of innocent lives dying in the world. Osama bin Laden was made in the USA.” Elsewhere, Rauf has stated that terrorism will end only when the West acknowledges the harm it has done to Muslims. And that it was Christians who started mass attacks on civilians.

Rauf has numerous ties to CAIR, an unindicted co-conspirator in the Department of Justice funding case brought against Hamas, an openly terrorist organization. CAIR is also the initiator of numerous cases designed to intimidate non-Muslims from criticizing aggressive Muslim behavior, and to use our own legal and democratic processes to undermine and dominate America, forcing it to become Islamic.

Rauf calls himself a Sufi, evoking among non-Muslims a “peace and love” image. But that’s not the whole picture. Sufism has many sides to it, including the Koranic injunction to spread Islam one way or another, and it has a rich history of waging war, too. Could it be that one of the frequently used tools of war, lying to the enemy, explains the contradiction between Rauf’s image as reconciler of religions and his sympathies and associations with terrorists?

A previous Rauf project, Muslim Leaders of Tomorrow, clearly shows on its website that it is headed and funded by individuals from Saudi Arabia, the country that spawned fifteen of the nineteen jihad jockeys who rode the 9/11 planes of destruction. The funding for the mosque at Ground Zero is much murkier so far. All that has been publicly disclosed is that the support comes from unidentified sources in Saudi Arabia and Muslim-ruled Malaysia. Rauf reportedly says he paid $4.85 million for the property — in cash. Where exactly did this money come from? Was it Wahhabist-supporting Saudi sources, which have already funded many other mosques in New York City?

The mosque is called Cordoba House. Muslims like to refer to Spain and especially the city of Cordoba as a place where their rule reached a glorious peak. Contrary to the myth of a Golden Age of equality during the Muslim occupation of Spain (and in particular in Cordoba), Spain and Cordoba were places where Christians and Jews suffered as social inferiors under Islamic oppression. Equal civil rights never existed for non-Muslims under Sharia, or Islamic law. Rauf even admits as much when he writes, “Jews and Christians living under Muslim rule simply had to pay a tax to finance their protection by their Muslim overlords.” This is not equality! Americans do not demand a special tax to protect Muslims from ourselves. That would be extortion, not “protection.”

Through another organization Rauf started called the Cordoba Initiative, he created the “Sharia Index.” This will measure how closely countries follow Sharia, or Islamic law. While Sharia can cover such relatively innocuous aspects of Muslim life as religious weddings (hopefully not to twelve-year-old girls), it also demands that all Muslim life be governed by laws derived from the Koran, without the intervention of civic institutions, such as democracy. And the Koran dictates that everyone, even non-Muslims, must ultimately live under Sharia. Do you understand how that is in direct conflict with our Constitution and other aspects of our secular society?

Rauf gets even trickier here. He states in What’s Right With Islam that a society that follows natural law, such as America, is already practicing Sharia. However, he does not note that his peculiar definition of Sharia acceptance is shared by just about no other Imam. So what prevents him from adjusting his singular idea of Sharia back to the norm of forced conversions, murdering non-Muslims and apostates, amputations of thieves’ hands, stoning of adulterous women, execution of homosexuals, etc.? Throughout his writing, Rauf floats an image of a harmonious, pleasant Islam — nice to everybody. But this is totally disconnected from Islam’s actual history of bloody conquest, enslavement, and humiliation of other people — which he never acknowledges.

Still another unsettling part of Rauf’s problem mosque is why the city has given the building a pass. Records for the Department of Buildings have shown numerous complaints for illegal construction and no access, yet the issues were listed as “resolved.”

Community Board One’s financial district committee needs to reconsider its endorsement of this mosque. The prestigious American groups that are reportedly also financing the mosque, The Ford Foundation and The Rockefeller Brothers Fund, need to think again about what they are getting into. The Department of Buildings needs to reassess its action. The Mayor’s Office of Immigrant Affairs, which supports the project (Why? What has a religious building got to do with immigration?) needs to reevaluate its approval.

Mayor Bloomberg himself needs to withdraw his support for this mosque, especially in light of the recent Times Square car bomb attempt. If not, he will be helping to provide a handy meeting place for future terrorists, those who understand Imam Rauf’s real message: Speak sweetly, appear to be a well-adjusted member of American society, and plan the destruction of America, either with bombs or “peaceful” undermining.


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