New York joins California and Montana, Corporations are not people!

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    Ooooo... New York City Council.... yeah... real shock with a progressive 'decision' coming down from there
     
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    They should call it the Captain Obvious legislation. Corporations aren't people. They are started, run, and owned by people. Therefore when you do something to a corporation... people are effected.
     
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    I guess Corporations are not people in the same exact way that Unions are Not people, or the City Council is Not people either. Guess what I am a Person. You are obstructing my Right to Hear, to Read, to be Informed on Important Issues. Funny, that is not new to you. You know, serving Injustice, Censorship, Obstruction, typical reasoning of Totalitarian Control Freaks. You know, Utter Hypocritical Bullshit.
     
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    So good of you to provide this 'Atta Boy' from the Progressive Caucus of the NY City Council.

    To me, the title is redundant, and a waste of good ink.

    But, for purposes of identification, and this goes toward an understanding of the objections to having anyone, or anything, other than Leftists or labor unions paying for access to government, the following, from Klein, "Red Army," is instructive:

    1. While the United States is one of the few democracies without an official socialist party, in reality socialist occupy some of the highest positions in the “Marxist-socialist” bloc in Congress. In fact, the Congressional Progressive Caucus was founded as a sister to the Democratic Socialists of America, the DSA.

    a. Before the socialist network infiltrated the Democratic Party, its ideology permeated academic institutions for decades.

    b. In the 60’s, radicals attempted to overthrow the US capitalist system by actual revolution: the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) or its spinoff, the Weathermen terrorist group. DSA was established to transform capitalism by democratic means.

    2. Based on ideas similar to those of the Fabians, it was decided to drop the word ‘socialism’ and continued as the ‘Congressional Progressive Caucus.’ Stealth was determined to be more effective….boring from within.

    a. Bill Ayers, Mike Klonsky, and Bernardine Dohrn attacked capitalism from academia.

    b. Wade Rathke founded ACORN.

    c. Heather and Paul Booth, and Steve Max, founded the Midwest Academy to attack capitalism using Saul Alinsky-style community organizing.
    Anyone else come to mind?

    3.Michael Harrington, founder of the DSA, knew that infiltration of the Democratic Party was primary, and it already contained all of the progressive elements.
    The Eduard Bernstein Internet Archive Socialism time line.

    The DSA remains the principle branch of the Socialist International, whose primary goal is global governance under worldwide socialism.

    a. The SI boasts it is successor to the First International of Karl Marx, 1864. “Ever since its inception in 1951, the Socialist International has made cosmetic efforts to distance itself from communist socialists.”
    The Grasp of Socialist International

    4. Journalist Balint Vazonyi, in the Washington Times: “But the real pay-off will occur on the day when we accept that, as we get nearer to the present time, we have had an increasing number of Americans falling prey to the socialist mind set - even in Congress.

    "What?" I hear you say. "Socialists in the Congress of the United States?"

    Dozens, dear reader, dozens. And they make no secret of it. Although of late it has been refurbished and the address altered, they have their own web site. They call themselves the "Progressive Caucus," until recently an arm of the Democratic Socialists of America, itself an arm of the Socialist International. The Progressive Caucus may be a separate entity now, but the details of its program, as advertised on the web site (www.dsausa.org/pc/pc.caucus.html), are indistinguishable from that of the Socialist International.
    We had better believe it. And we had better remember: the socialist cause trumps everything. Everything.”
    The Riddle That Isn't


    Progressive, socialist, Marxist, Fabian....
    Do the aims of these groups mean anything to you?
     
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    I want all private money out of politics. I want the popular vote to decide elections. I want voting to be mandatory and easy. I want a 3 month elections cycle so the people we elect work on policy and not on getting votes.

    You?
     
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    yes!
     
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    Ah..Bill Ayers..again?

    Well HW Bush pardoned Orlando Bosch, GW Bush took over a business owned by Bin Laden's brother and Santorum gave an award to a child ass raper.

    Good company..eh?
     
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    I do support allowing individuals/persons the ability to contribute to the candidate of their choice, but only limited sums. Only people who live in the contested district/state/country are permitted to contribute to the candidate's fund. Candidates should not be permitted to spend any more on a campaign than the job they are vying for will pay during their term of service (i.e. if the job pays $400,000 for two years, campaign costs should be limited to $800,000).
    Technology today makes the Electoral College anachronistic. If we must have the Electoral College, each district's vote goes to the candidate that wins the majority in that district. No more casting the entire State's electoral votes for one candidate. There is a distinct schism between urban and rural desires, as candidates go.
    Three months should be more than enough to get your message across. Personally, I am sick and tired of hearing how bad the other guy is going to be. Tell me what you plan on doing to make things better.
     
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    You Want? So you don't donate? That is where you should start. Idiot.
     

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