New Coal Regulations Will Kill Jobs, Boost Energy Bills

[Truthmatters]

They are generally about 1000 times more honest than the government. To understand why no one believes the later, just consider the recent example of Anthony Weiner.

If you really believe that corps are more honest than any other group of people involved with anything then you are the worlds biggest fool.

A politician is more honest then a working stiff ? If you believe that YOU are the worlds biggest fool.

So now coporations are working stiffs?

man you people are really taking this corporate personhood thing to the moon huh?

 

[bripat9643]

The EPA pulls these numbers out of their ass. There is no way that 36,000 people die every year as a result of coal fired power plant emissions. The actual number is probably close to zero.

When your mouth moves, does the coal industry do a good job of hiding or can people see the strings?

ROFL! Do liberal turds ever come up with new slanders to deflect from their obvious lies and propaganda?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

The EPA pulls these numbers out of their ass. There is no way that 36,000 people die every year as a result of coal fired power plant emissions. The actual number is probably close to zero.

When your mouth moves, does the coal industry do a good job of hiding or can people see the strings?

ROFL! Do liberal turds ever come up with new slanders to deflect from their obvious lies and propaganda?

Why do you think "global warming", once debunked, miraculously became the all encompassing "climate change"?

 

[bripat9643]

So now coporations are working stiffs?

man you people are really taking this corporate personhood thing to the moon huh?

Where is the evidence to support the EPA's claims about pollution deaths?

Oh yeah, there isn't any. They just pulled the numbers out of their ass.

 

[Sallow]

They are generally about 1000 times more honest than the government. To understand why no one believes the later, just consider the recent example of Anthony Weiner.

Ken Lay.
Bernie Maddoff.
Michael Milken.
Scott Sullivan.
Ivan Boesky.
David Myers.
Jeff Skilling.
Dennis Kozlowski.
Mark Swartz.
Frank Walsh.
Richard Fuld.
Neil Bush.

Honest to a fault those guys. Only cost billions..no big whoop.

That's a pretty small list. Now consider anyone who was ever elected to Congress. Everyone one of them is less honest than everyone on your list.

Yeah, they spent way more of my money than those thugs in Congress, right? $4 trillion a year is pocket change!

You have to be positively stupid to trust the government.

You name one politician that pulled out 20 billion dollars from the economy for personal profit.

One.

 

[8537]

The EPA pulls these numbers out of their ass. There is no way that 36,000 people die every year as a result of coal fired power plant emissions. The actual number is probably close to zero.

When your mouth moves, does the coal industry do a good job of hiding or can people see the strings?

ROFL! Do liberal turds ever come up with new slanders to deflect from their obvious lies and propaganda?

No, I never come up with new slanders to deflect from the coal companies obvious lies and propaganda.

That's your job.

 

[Sallow]

Shouldn't be to hard to discern he's talking about building new coal plants with old technology. And he is correct...that shouldn't be the direction we head in.

The "new technology" that Obama favors is not economically feasible. We'll all be shivering in the dark if Obama is allowed to proceed with his schemes to bring on the new Utopia.

It's been 90 degrees or over in NYC for a week now.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

When your mouth moves, does the coal industry do a good job of hiding or can people see the strings?

ROFL! Do liberal turds ever come up with new slanders to deflect from their obvious lies and propaganda?

No, I never come up with new slanders to deflect from the coal companies obvious lies and propaganda.

That's your job.

WTF????

 

[Truthmatters]

So now coporations are working stiffs?

man you people are really taking this corporate personhood thing to the moon huh?

Where is the evidence to support the EPA's claims about pollution deaths?

Oh yeah, there isn't any. They just pulled the numbers out of their ass.

No its called science.

You know where they take facts and complie them and then think real hard about these facts and determine how to make peopoles lives better in light of the facts.


The only thing a corporations cares about is making money.

That means they dont care if they have to lie to make money.

then they depend of people like you to polish their boots before they shove it up your colon

 

[WillowTree]

I wonder if people die from being COLD?

Far worse was the retired fire marshal who died in June. Like many of the others, he was too young to collect Social Security. “When they found him, he had no electricity and no running water in his house,” said David Anders, 58, a retired district fire chief. “He was a proud enough man that he wouldn’t accept help.”

Alabama Town

People die of all sorts of things.

So in your mind it's okay to let them die of cold? Really?

 

[Truthmatters]

why do you people keep pretending that coal is not a polluting and distructive source of energy?

 

[bripat9643]

When your mouth moves, does the coal industry do a good job of hiding or can people see the strings?

ROFL! Do liberal turds ever come up with new slanders to deflect from their obvious lies and propaganda?

No, I never come up with new slanders to deflect from the coal companies obvious lies and propaganda.

That's your job.

What "lies and propaganda?" They haven't said a thing. All the lies and propaganda are coming from the EPA and its defenders.

 

[Sallow]

I wonder if people die from being COLD?

Far worse was the retired fire marshal who died in June. Like many of the others, he was too young to collect Social Security. “When they found him, he had no electricity and no running water in his house,” said David Anders, 58, a retired district fire chief. “He was a proud enough man that he wouldn’t accept help.”

Alabama Town

People die of all sorts of things.

So in your mind it's okay to let them die of cold? Really?

That guy died because they stopped paying him his pension.

A-Okay..in the minds of Conservatives.

Like Jan Brewer.

 

[bripat9643]

It's been 90 degrees or over in NYC for a week now.

We're all you global warming nitwits saying that recent record breaking cold weather was just weather?

 

[Sallow]

It's been 90 degrees or over in NYC for a week now.

We're all you global warming nitwits saying that recent record breaking cold weather was just weather?

It's not.

It's the result of the same damn problem.

 

[Claudette]

Lets just see how high our electric bills go if the EPA gets its way. Companies will pass on higher costs to the consumer.

It take electricity to produce everything. Higher costs for everything you buy.

Don't forget all the low income people who will be subsidized by the taxpayers yet again. In effect we will be paying our bills and theirs as well.

Don't know about you but I can hardly wait.

 

[martybegan]

So now coporations are working stiffs?

man you people are really taking this corporate personhood thing to the moon huh?

Where is the evidence to support the EPA's claims about pollution deaths?

Oh yeah, there isn't any. They just pulled the numbers out of their ass.

No its called science.

You know where they take facts and complie them and then think real hard about these facts and determine how to make peopoles lives better in light of the facts.


The only thing a corporations cares about is making money.

That means they dont care if they have to lie to make money.

then they depend of people like you to polish their boots before they shove it up your colon

This is less science and more statistics, manipulation, and guesswork. Again, when you read risk anylsis studies words like "could", "may", and "might" pop up all over the place.

Science as I understand it requires a direct cause and effect relationship for proof. Studies that project "X" deaths are basically numbers games.

and you are still a pussy for turning off your rep. neener neener.

Also, learn to use the quote function. if a 5 year old can do it, you can too. lazy.

 

[bripat9643]

No its called science.

You know where they take facts and complie them and then think real hard about these facts and determine how to make peopoles lives better in light of the facts.

What "facts?" Where is the actual empirical evidence that more than 36,000 people a year die from coal fired power plant emissions? Where is the evidence that these new regulations will save them?

The simple fact is there are no such facts. The EPA hasn't even researched the issue. It simply pulled some bogus numbers out of its ass.

How will tripling everyone's utility bill "make life better?"

Do liberal turds ever consider the downside of any of their schemes?

The only thing a corporations cares about is making money.

That means they dont care if they have to lie to make money.

then they depend of people like you to polish their boots before they shove it up your colon

Every time anyone opposes liberal moron schemes that will bankrupt us all, government toadies like you accuse them of being a corporate shill. Why would I give a damn about coal mining corporations? However, I am concerned about idiotic policies that are going to triple my utility bills. Anyone who isn't concerned is a damn fool - that is, anyone who isn't a liberal.

 

[bripat9643]

We're all you global warming nitwits saying that recent record breaking cold weather was just weather?

It's not.

It's the result of the same damn problem.

yeah, we know: record breaking warm temperatures prove man made global warming. Record break cold temperatures prove global warming. Whatever the weather does, it proves man made global warming.

liberals are pathological nitwits.

 

[kiwiman127]

Ha! I see our far right posters are doing their predictable slamming of anything that might enhance life in their own country because,,,because,, because it's a REGULATION!
Let's look at the US's biggest economic competitor on the world stage is doing.

China Outpaces U.S. in Cleaner Coal-Fired Plants

TIANJIN, China — China’s frenetic construction of coal-fired power plants has raised worries around the world about the effect on climate change. China now uses more coal than the United States, Europe and Japan combined, making it the world’s largest emitter of gases that are warming the planet.
But largely missing in the hand-wringing is this: China has emerged in the past two years as the world’s leading builder of more efficient, less polluting coal power plants, mastering the technology and driving down the cost.
While the United States is still debating whether to build a more efficient kind of coal-fired power plant that uses extremely hot steam, China has begun building such plants at a rate of one a month.
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Western countries continue to rely heavily on coal-fired power plants built decades ago with outdated, inefficient technology that burn a lot of coal and emit considerable amounts of carbon dioxide. China has begun requiring power companies to retire an older, more polluting power plant for each new one they build.
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With greater efficiency, a power plant burns less coal and emits less carbon dioxide for each unit of electricity it generates. Experts say the least efficient plants in China today convert 27 to 36 percent of the energy in coal into electricity. The most efficient plants achieve an efficiency as high as 44 percent, meaning they can cut global warming emissions by more than a third compared with the weakest plants.
China Far Outpaces U.S. in Building Cleaner Coal-Fired Plants - NYTimes.com
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So while China moves forwards, the "we hate any regulation" crowd wants the US to stand pat or in essence, fall behind.