CDZ My gun control plan that will stop 95-99% of gun crime and murder in the U.S.

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    I support a life sentence on any criminal who uses a gun for an actual gun crime..... and 30 years if a criminal is caught in possession of a gun, even if they are not using it at that moment for crime.

    This will dry up gun crime over night. Criminals will stop using guns for robberies, rapes and murders.....and those who do will be gone forever......

    Criminals will also stop walking around with guns in their pants......which is the leading cause of random gang shootings in our cities. if they are stopped by police, with a gun in their pants, they are gone for 30 years...they will stop carrying those guns, and random gang violence will end.

    You implement this with two other things...

    1) No More Bargaining Away the Gun Charge.........it must be against the law to bargain away a gun charge as part of a plea deal....this stops.

    2) When a criminal is arrested for any crime, and booked in...they will be read the announcement that any use of a crime is a life sentence without parole, owning or carrying a gun as a felon is a 30 year sentence without parole....when they are released from custody...the same will be read to them again....when they meet their parole officer it will be read to them again.....the U.S. government will also buy and send out Public announcements on this policy on t.v. radio. and cable......

    That is how you stop gun crime over night.

    Mass shooters are different..... but with only 93 people killed in mass public shootings in 2018, they are not the major problem in gun crime.

    The value in my plan......it actually targets the individuals actually using guns to commit crimes and murder people....

    It does not require new background check laws, it does not require gun licensing, licensing gun owners, gun registration, new taxes, fees or regulations on guns...

    By making gun crime a life sentence, criminals will stop using guns for crime and will stop carrying guns around for protection.....

    Also....a nurse, with a legal gun, driving from Pennsylvania, to New Jersey, will not be considered a gun criminal.....that will end. Criminals with a record of crime, caught with a gun will get 30 years, no deals.....and criminals who use guns for actual crime...robbing the local store, rape, robbery, murder.....life without parole...

    This, of course, eliminates the need for more gun control laws...we can already do this.....
     
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    that would be the worst gun law the world has ever seen,,,all the anti gunners have to do is make it illegal to use a gun in self defense,,,,and what if they use a bat or knife to commit the crime???
    do they get a life sentence too?? if not why??
    better to just punish a crime as a crime and be done with it,,
     
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    The American left would scream racism round the clock over this because prisons would be overnight overcrowded with black and Hispanic gangbangers, narco-traffickers, corner dealers and crackhead stick-up men.
     
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    Close enough 2aguy and I agree on the gist.

    I'd add DEPORTATION to work at prison labor to pay back costs of prosecution,
    incarceration and restitution to victims and taxpayers.

    I'd have ALL districts screen residents in advance by requiring
    civil and Constitutional education and compliance with laws, authority and process.

    If you want due process and right to defense paid by the state in case of charges,
    you sign to COMPLY and COOPERATE with authorities, not obstruct or withhold
    any information that prevents from resolving the case, and agree to pay costs of
    the crime and procedures for any premeditated crimes of rape, robbery or assaults
    with weapons of any type.

    I'd add more preventative education measures up front
    designed for deterrence and early diagnosis and screening of criminal issues.

    But basically agree with you, can we contact our Congress and State
    reps, get this written up and pitch it to various offices to promote online and in the media?

    This is so close to the right idea, it wouldn't take much more
    to formulate a working proposal and get it publicized so more people/districts
    will take on their own version of it.
     
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    They can try to make using a gun for self defense a crime....that would be a tough slog.

    I don't care about bats and knives.....guns are the issue.....this would end gun violence which is the key, it would take pressure off of the attacks on the 2nd Amendment....

    Of course criminals will switch to knives and bats, they will also target the elderly and children, and they will attack in larger groups..and when they need someone shot, they will use more 15 year olds...

    The goal is to stop gun crime....
     
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    This is the mindset that is the problem.
     
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    Yep....which is why they currently let repeat gun offenders out of jail on Bond, and out of prison with light sentences...... the actual gun crime in this country is committed by known criminals with repeat histories of gun crimes...because politicians of one party want to use racism as a tool.
     
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    The problem is liberals refuse to punish violent offenders.
     
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    No, it isn't. Mass shooters have to be dealt with differently than the 10,982 gun murders.

    Again, 93 killed in mass public shootings vs. 10,982 in criminal gun murder.

    Do you see which one is more devestating?

    To deal with mass shooters you use a different approach...you have to use gathering intelligence, use friends and family to report dangerous people.... and you have to end gun free zones.

    There were 12 mass public shootings in 2018 with 93 killed...

    My plan puts an end to 95% of the 10,982 gun murders in this country......can you tell which one helps more?
     
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    guns dont commit violence or crimes, not to mention thats a leftist talking point that needs called for what it is,,,BULLSHIT,,,

    sorry I reject your proposal
     

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