Mueller is casting a wide net. We now know the target is Trump.

[Faun]

In this case, the asshole who is tearing this country apart rather than admitting that he has NOTHING..

Flynn - felony conviction
Papadapoulos - felony confiction
Gates - felony conviction
Pinedo - felony conviction

Nothing to see here.

What was Flynn's crime?

Lying to the FBI; in violation of 18 U.S. Code § 1001.

 

[Faun]

Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III is now directly gunning for President Trump — and not just on one front. It appears that Mueller is investigating whether Trump himself committed misconduct or possible criminality on two fronts, and possibly more.

NBC News is now reporting that Mueller has sent a subpoena to an unnamed witness that appears to hint at just how wide a net Mueller has cast. NBC reports that the subpoena suggests Mueller is focused, among other things, on determining what Trump himself knew about Russian sabotage of the 2016 election as it was happening.

The subpoena demands a range of documents that involve Trump himself, in addition to nine of his top campaign advisers and associates. The documents solicited include emails, text messages, work papers and telephone logs dating back to November 2015, about four months after Trump declared his presidential candidacy.

Well, it was definitely worth the wait. I'm sure we still have many months to go, so nobody should get too happy. But the man is hard at work, and Trump is panicking.

Opinion | Mueller is casting a wide net. We now know the target is Trump.

We can’t be rid of Trump too soon.

So much for elections.

Democracy was cool, until it was a problem for libs.

^^^ just another dumbfuck who mentally blocks out Ken Starr's never-ending witch hunt of Bill Clinton.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III is now directly gunning for President Trump — and not just on one front. It appears that Mueller is investigating whether Trump himself committed misconduct or possible criminality on two fronts, and possibly more.

NBC News is now reporting that Mueller has sent a subpoena to an unnamed witness that appears to hint at just how wide a net Mueller has cast. NBC reports that the subpoena suggests Mueller is focused, among other things, on determining what Trump himself knew about Russian sabotage of the 2016 election as it was happening.

The subpoena demands a range of documents that involve Trump himself, in addition to nine of his top campaign advisers and associates. The documents solicited include emails, text messages, work papers and telephone logs dating back to November 2015, about four months after Trump declared his presidential candidacy.

Well, it was definitely worth the wait. I'm sure we still have many months to go, so nobody should get too happy. But the man is hard at work, and Trump is panicking.

Opinion | Mueller is casting a wide net. We now know the target is Trump.

Trump should send Mueller to a gulag.

Like to see him try it!

 

[Faun]

What do you think will happen when they put Trump under oath?

FOr what? They gave up on Collusion. THey filed on the Trolls. YOu're not getting anything more, unless you love perjury trap bullshit.

Remember Clinton had to testify because of Paula Jones. Trump will have to testify because of Stormy Daniels. History is repeating itself.

Is this what Correll was speaking of when he talked about "blowback?"

 

[Doc1]

Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III is now directly gunning for President Trump — and not just on one front. It appears that Mueller is investigating whether Trump himself committed misconduct or possible criminality on two fronts, and possibly more.

NBC News is now reporting that Mueller has sent a subpoena to an unnamed witness that appears to hint at just how wide a net Mueller has cast. NBC reports that the subpoena suggests Mueller is focused, among other things, on determining what Trump himself knew about Russian sabotage of the 2016 election as it was happening.

The subpoena demands a range of documents that involve Trump himself, in addition to nine of his top campaign advisers and associates. The documents solicited include emails, text messages, work papers and telephone logs dating back to November 2015, about four months after Trump declared his presidential candidacy.

Well, it was definitely worth the wait. I'm sure we still have many months to go, so nobody should get too happy. But the man is hard at work, and Trump is panicking.

Opinion | Mueller is casting a wide net. We now know the target is Trump.

Trump should send Mueller to a gulag.

Like to see him try it!

So tell us Progman, how far are you willing to go to get Trump?

 

[Correll]

Good stuff, thanks.



"If either one is true — and I believe both probably are — it would mean FBI leaders betrayed the nation by abusing their powers in a bid to pick the president.

More support for this view involves the FBI’s use of the Russian dossier on Trump that was paid for by the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee. It is almost certain that the FBI used the dossier to get FISA court warrants to spy on Trump associates, meaning it used the opposition research of the party in power to convince a court to let it spy on the candidate of the other party — likely without telling the court of the dossier’s political link.

Even worse, there is growing reason to believe someone in President Barack Obama’s administration turned over classified information about Trump to the Clinton campaign.

As one former federal prosecutor put it, “It doesn’t get worse than that.” That prosecutor, Joseph diGenova, believes Trump was correct when he claimed Obama aides wiretapped his phones at Trump Tower.

These and other elements combine to make a toxic brew that smells to high heaven, but most Americans don’t know much about it. Mainstream media coverage has been sparse and dismissive and there’s a blackout from the same Democrats obsessed with Russia, Russia, Russia."

The NY Post is a tabloid that sells to small minded people like you who loves lurid conspiracy theories.
God you’re such a dope.
You actually make Miketx and Bripat look smart and they’re the lowest bottom feeders on this forum.

Strzok's behavior is not conspiracy theory.


The FBI using democrat party smear material handed to them by a foreign operative is not conspiracy theory.


The shit that Mueller is supposedly investigating? Now that's some serious tin foil hat shit.

All Sean Hannity type conspiracy theories. All your bullshit you swear is going to make a difference NEVER materializes so you just move on to more lies your media tells you then...
Cyclical pattern.

From the BBC.


Clinton team 'funded' Trump dirty dossier


Anthony Zurcher, BBC News, Washington

Political campaigns have been in the business of digging up dirt on their rivals since the dawn of democratic elections. A choice bit of "opposition research", deployed at an opportune moment, can be a decisive factor in a close election.

So it should come as little surprise that supporters of a Republican candidate went to work building a file on Donald Trump during the party primaries or that Democrats took the baton as the general election geared up.

What's unusual - and what will pique the interest of investigators and fuel the suspicions of conservatives - is that after the election, once Hillary Clinton was defeated, the FBI would pick up funding for this investigation.

A topic as sensitive as this - allegations of foreign influence on a presidential campaign - doesn't seem like something the US government should be outsourcing.

There have been plenty of accusations, on both sides of ideological divide, that the FBI has become politicised. Stories like this won't help diminish those concerns.

Clinton retained a law firm.

That law firm paid Fusion GPS to perform opposition research on Trump; which Fusion GPS had performed for a conservative group during the primaries.

Fusion GPS then hired Steele, an ex-British spy with Russian connections, to report on connections between Trump and Russia.

While Hillary's money indirectly went to Steele, it's no more accurate to frame like Hillary funded the dossier than it is to say I funded the dossier since I contributed to Hillary's campaign.

In other words, my money went to Hillary ... Hillary's money went to Perkins Coie ... Perkins Coie's money went to Fusion GPS ... Fusion GPS's money went to Steele ... Steele compiled a dossier. Therefore, I funded the dossier using that logic.

Taken even further, the firm I work for pays me to work for them -- that means they funded the dossier. In fact, you may have paid for services which contract my firm -- that means you may have funded the dossier.

Fusion GPS performed opposition research FOR THE HILLARY CAMPAIGN.

That research, the famous dossier of unverified rumor, once Hillary was defeated, that work and the primary agent doing it, slimed on over to the FBI.


The file was paid for, and created for the Hillary campaign. Calling it "democratic smear material" is completely accurate.


The material was later used and paid for, by the FBI.


The work of fighting against Trump, even though he was now the duly elected President continued uninterrupted.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III is now directly gunning for President Trump — and not just on one front. It appears that Mueller is investigating whether Trump himself committed misconduct or possible criminality on two fronts, and possibly more.

NBC News is now reporting that Mueller has sent a subpoena to an unnamed witness that appears to hint at just how wide a net Mueller has cast. NBC reports that the subpoena suggests Mueller is focused, among other things, on determining what Trump himself knew about Russian sabotage of the 2016 election as it was happening.

The subpoena demands a range of documents that involve Trump himself, in addition to nine of his top campaign advisers and associates. The documents solicited include emails, text messages, work papers and telephone logs dating back to November 2015, about four months after Trump declared his presidential candidacy.

Well, it was definitely worth the wait. I'm sure we still have many months to go, so nobody should get too happy. But the man is hard at work, and Trump is panicking.

Opinion | Mueller is casting a wide net. We now know the target is Trump.

Trump should send Mueller to a gulag.

Like to see him try it!

So tell us Progman, how far are you willing to go to get Trump?

As far as that long arm of the law allows. I want to see him humiliated and hung out to dry, even though Pence is even worse in some ways

 

[Doc1]

Good stuff, thanks.



"If either one is true — and I believe both probably are — it would mean FBI leaders betrayed the nation by abusing their powers in a bid to pick the president.

More support for this view involves the FBI’s use of the Russian dossier on Trump that was paid for by the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee. It is almost certain that the FBI used the dossier to get FISA court warrants to spy on Trump associates, meaning it used the opposition research of the party in power to convince a court to let it spy on the candidate of the other party — likely without telling the court of the dossier’s political link.

Even worse, there is growing reason to believe someone in President Barack Obama’s administration turned over classified information about Trump to the Clinton campaign.

As one former federal prosecutor put it, “It doesn’t get worse than that.” That prosecutor, Joseph diGenova, believes Trump was correct when he claimed Obama aides wiretapped his phones at Trump Tower.

These and other elements combine to make a toxic brew that smells to high heaven, but most Americans don’t know much about it. Mainstream media coverage has been sparse and dismissive and there’s a blackout from the same Democrats obsessed with Russia, Russia, Russia."

The NY Post is a tabloid that sells to small minded people like you who loves lurid conspiracy theories.
God you’re such a dope.
You actually make Miketx and Bripat look smart and they’re the lowest bottom feeders on this forum.

Strzok's behavior is not conspiracy theory.


The FBI using democrat party smear material handed to them by a foreign operative is not conspiracy theory.


The shit that Mueller is supposedly investigating? Now that's some serious tin foil hat shit.

All Sean Hannity type conspiracy theories. All your bullshit you swear is going to make a difference NEVER materializes so you just move on to more lies your media tells you then...
Cyclical pattern.

From the BBC.


Clinton team 'funded' Trump dirty dossier


Anthony Zurcher, BBC News, Washington

Political campaigns have been in the business of digging up dirt on their rivals since the dawn of democratic elections. A choice bit of "opposition research", deployed at an opportune moment, can be a decisive factor in a close election.

So it should come as little surprise that supporters of a Republican candidate went to work building a file on Donald Trump during the party primaries or that Democrats took the baton as the general election geared up.

What's unusual - and what will pique the interest of investigators and fuel the suspicions of conservatives - is that after the election, once Hillary Clinton was defeated, the FBI would pick up funding for this investigation.

A topic as sensitive as this - allegations of foreign influence on a presidential campaign - doesn't seem like something the US government should be outsourcing.

There have been plenty of accusations, on both sides of ideological divide, that the FBI has become politicised. Stories like this won't help diminish those concerns.

Clinton retained a law firm.

That law firm paid Fusion GPS to perform opposition research on Trump; which Fusion GPS had performed for a conservative group during the primaries.

Fusion GPS then hired Steele, an ex-British spy with Russian connections, to report on connections between Trump and Russia.

While Hillary's money indirectly went to Steele, it's no more accurate to frame like Hillary funded the dossier than it is to say I funded the dossier since I contributed to Hillary's campaign.

In other words, my money went to Hillary ... Hillary's money went to Perkins Coie ... Perkins Coie's money went to Fusion GPS ... Fusion GPS's money went to Steele ... Steele compiled a dossier. Therefore, I funded the dossier using that logic.

Taken even further, the firm I work for pays me to work for them -- that means they funded the dossier. In fact, you may have paid for services which contract my firm -- that means you may have funded the dossier.

This is the most impressive feat of intellectual gymnastics I've ever seen. Intellectually dishonest, but impressive none the less.

 

[Doc1]

Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III is now directly gunning for President Trump — and not just on one front. It appears that Mueller is investigating whether Trump himself committed misconduct or possible criminality on two fronts, and possibly more.

NBC News is now reporting that Mueller has sent a subpoena to an unnamed witness that appears to hint at just how wide a net Mueller has cast. NBC reports that the subpoena suggests Mueller is focused, among other things, on determining what Trump himself knew about Russian sabotage of the 2016 election as it was happening.

The subpoena demands a range of documents that involve Trump himself, in addition to nine of his top campaign advisers and associates. The documents solicited include emails, text messages, work papers and telephone logs dating back to November 2015, about four months after Trump declared his presidential candidacy.

Well, it was definitely worth the wait. I'm sure we still have many months to go, so nobody should get too happy. But the man is hard at work, and Trump is panicking.

Opinion | Mueller is casting a wide net. We now know the target is Trump.

Trump should send Mueller to a gulag.

Like to see him try it!

So tell us Progman, how far are you willing to go to get Trump?

As far as that long arm of the law allows. I want to see him humiliated and hung out to dry, even though Pence is even worse in some ways

Fair enough, you're the only Prog to answer the question. I tip my hat to you sir.

 

[Faun]

Yes, it’s on me that I duped you into bashing the right when you thought you were bashing the left. But it’s on you that you’re too stupid to fall for it and it’s on you that you’re such a blind partisan that you don’t see the shit your side does. And it’s on you that you see the ugly side of the left but not the right when the right does that of which you accuse the left.

Your side is the one holding witch hunts. Your side is the one who did that when Bill was president and when his wife ran for president. All the injustices you complained about were actually committed by your side, not mine, yet you only see that in the left. That too is on you.

Also on you is the difference in the way the two sides respond to being subjected to such injustices and witch hunts. You described the pending reaction as a threat. As “blow back.” As how it’s going to “cost” us. And while you stopped yourself short of saying a reaction would be violent, plenty of folks on the right aren’t as careful as you were. There have been plenty of threats of civil war coming from your side. All for the perceived actions they the right see from the left when it’s really the actions of the right.

So thanks for doing your part, as unwitting as it was, for helping me demonstrate the unabashed hypocrisy of the right.

1. Your claim that there is equivalence between the Right and the Left on the matter of investigations and witch hunts is unsupported.

2. The political bias revealed in the investigators in the Mueller investigation shows that we can't really trust the results of past investigations.

3. There is not move to permanently marginalize anyone on the left equivalent to those working class voters that supported Trump.

4. Your pretense that Left is above violence is laughed at.

You’re truly brain-dead. There’s simply no other explanation.

You are an asshole. See, two can play the insult game. The difference is that I am not lying.

1. I’m not making any such equivalency. There is none. There’s no equivalence to the the right letting Ken Starr, who was linked to the Paula Jones case against Clinton, spend 6 years investigating the Clinton’s over allegations made by the right. There’s no equivalence to the right opening up 8 separate investigations into Benghazi. With Gowdy, the architect of the last one, dragging it into an election season nearly 4 years after the attack; admitting it would cost Hillary votes.

Bill Clinton was a serial sexual harasser. Remember, the talking points have changed. THat matters again. That the dems stone walled, and the feminists gave him a pass, doesn't change the facts.

2. There is no political bias in Mueller’s investigation.It’s a bipartisan team Mueller assembled and any bias Mueller encountered, like Strzok, was kicked off the investigation. Your limp efforts to marginalize Muellerfail since Mueller was chosen because of his pristine credibility. While there will certainly be some schmucks on the right who will refuse to accept any indictmentson Trump should any be forthcoming, most of America will accept it.

Strzok was kicked off when he got caught, not a moment before. Until that moment, he was considered to be wonderfully credibly too. Considering that he was not considered a real problem by the FBI, and was placed in such a sensitive position, calls into question the neutrality of the entire agency.

3. There’s no movement on the left to permanently marginalize Trump voters. Mueller is a Republican. He is not the left. Mueller was appointed by Rosenstein, also a Republican. Rosenstein is not the left. Rosenstein was responsible for appointing a special counsel because Sessions recused himself due to his own connections to Tussia. Sessions is also Republican and also not the left. They were appointed by Trump. Trump is also a Republican and not the left. You’re so fucked in the head, you’re blaming the left for the actions of Republicans.

If Trump and his supporters are denied the possibility of advancing their agenda, as is their right for having won the election, for the White House AND the House of Representatives, AND the Senate, AND having a friendly Court,

Then you have removed the option of winning the Democratic Process from a large segment of the population.


Whatever little excuse you have in your mind to claim that that is not permanently marginalizing a large percentage of the population, won't change that.


If you are serious about doing that, you really should consider the consequences.

4. I never said the left is above violence. I pointed out there are some on the right who are threatening violence, as insane as civil war, should Trump be indicted. And you’re just as nuts, since as I showed, the investigation comes from the right, not the left, and it’s actually been the right, not the left, who’s carried out witch hunts and unjust investigations. You unwittingly said so yourself when you called the string of Benghazi investigations as such because you thought I was talking about Mueller’s investigation.

I said nothing about an indictment. My point was very clear. Your make peaceful change impossible, you permanently marginalize a large percentage of the population, and you are assholes on top of that, and you will be asking for trouble.


What part of that was confusing to you? How did you manage to confuse yourself about what I said?

Of course you're lying. I've already shown that. And now you're deflecting too.

1. The 6 year long Ken Starr witch hunt was about Whitewater, not Clinton's past allegations of sexual abuse. Though over time, it expanded into filegate, travelgate, vincefostergate, paulajonesgate, monicalewinskigate. You know, what even you called a "witch hunt" when you thought we were talking about Russia! Russia! Russia!. There is no equivalence to that as Democrats have never done that to Republicans. Now either address that or don't, but don't try to pivot that to be about sexual allegations against Clinton.

2. Strzok was kicked off the investigation by Mueller when his bias was exposed to Mueller. Why would Mueller kick him off before learning about it?

3. Is a bullshit claim that a sitting president should never be impeached because it disenfranchises said president's voters. That bullshit is self-evident by the existence of impeachment instructions enshrined in our Constitution on the grounds of "Treason, Bribery, or other High Crimes and Misdemeanors," which is what Trump can be impeached on should Mueller find evidence of such.

4. Of course you were talking about indictment. You even threatened the left should Mueller indict Trump on a process crime.

1. You brought up Jones, not me. Bill was a serial sexual harasser.

2. Support your assumption that Mueller did not know of Strzok's bias.

3. Your justifications for your anti-democratic actions is noted and dismissed. I hope they provide you with some comfort when you realize the terrible damage you have inflicted on this nation. (actually I don't, I hope you are aware enough to realize what a vile thing you have done and that it hurts you terribly)

4. YOur word games bore me. You will be responsible for the results of your actions.

1. I brought up Jones in the context that Starr was involved in that case prior to being named an Independent Counsel to investigate Clinton. The context was about Starr, not Jones or Clinton's past sexual allegations. You should learn about context so you know what people are talking about.

2. The texts first came to light in early December, when the New York Times reported that Mueller had ousted Strzok after learning of the anti-Trump messages. Strzok, who was removed in late July, had sent the messages to an FBI lawyer, Lisa Page.

3. Only a dumbfuck could frame impeachment, as defined in the U.S. Constitution, as terrible damage inflicted upon this nation.

You're a partisan hack, becoming increasingly unhinged by the day.

4. LOL ... I'm quoting you. How the fuck is that "word games?" You said...

BTW, if you fuckers manage to gin up something to get some of his people in jail, for bullshit reasons, such as "perjury traps" or other process "crimes".

DOn't kid yourself, those people will be political prisoners.

This is going to cost you someday.

... how does that not speak to indictment? How is one put in jail without ever being indicted?? You're fucking dumber than shit to position this as though I'm the one playing word games by pointing out you talked about indictments.

 

[Correll]

1. Your claim that there is equivalence between the Right and the Left on the matter of investigations and witch hunts is unsupported.

2. The political bias revealed in the investigators in the Mueller investigation shows that we can't really trust the results of past investigations.

3. There is not move to permanently marginalize anyone on the left equivalent to those working class voters that supported Trump.

4. Your pretense that Left is above violence is laughed at.

You’re truly brain-dead. There’s simply no other explanation.

You are an asshole. See, two can play the insult game. The difference is that I am not lying.

1. I’m not making any such equivalency. There is none. There’s no equivalence to the the right letting Ken Starr, who was linked to the Paula Jones case against Clinton, spend 6 years investigating the Clinton’s over allegations made by the right. There’s no equivalence to the right opening up 8 separate investigations into Benghazi. With Gowdy, the architect of the last one, dragging it into an election season nearly 4 years after the attack; admitting it would cost Hillary votes.

Bill Clinton was a serial sexual harasser. Remember, the talking points have changed. THat matters again. That the dems stone walled, and the feminists gave him a pass, doesn't change the facts.

2. There is no political bias in Mueller’s investigation.It’s a bipartisan team Mueller assembled and any bias Mueller encountered, like Strzok, was kicked off the investigation. Your limp efforts to marginalize Muellerfail since Mueller was chosen because of his pristine credibility. While there will certainly be some schmucks on the right who will refuse to accept any indictmentson Trump should any be forthcoming, most of America will accept it.

Strzok was kicked off when he got caught, not a moment before. Until that moment, he was considered to be wonderfully credibly too. Considering that he was not considered a real problem by the FBI, and was placed in such a sensitive position, calls into question the neutrality of the entire agency.

3. There’s no movement on the left to permanently marginalize Trump voters. Mueller is a Republican. He is not the left. Mueller was appointed by Rosenstein, also a Republican. Rosenstein is not the left. Rosenstein was responsible for appointing a special counsel because Sessions recused himself due to his own connections to Tussia. Sessions is also Republican and also not the left. They were appointed by Trump. Trump is also a Republican and not the left. You’re so fucked in the head, you’re blaming the left for the actions of Republicans.

If Trump and his supporters are denied the possibility of advancing their agenda, as is their right for having won the election, for the White House AND the House of Representatives, AND the Senate, AND having a friendly Court,

Then you have removed the option of winning the Democratic Process from a large segment of the population.


Whatever little excuse you have in your mind to claim that that is not permanently marginalizing a large percentage of the population, won't change that.


If you are serious about doing that, you really should consider the consequences.

4. I never said the left is above violence. I pointed out there are some on the right who are threatening violence, as insane as civil war, should Trump be indicted. And you’re just as nuts, since as I showed, the investigation comes from the right, not the left, and it’s actually been the right, not the left, who’s carried out witch hunts and unjust investigations. You unwittingly said so yourself when you called the string of Benghazi investigations as such because you thought I was talking about Mueller’s investigation.

I said nothing about an indictment. My point was very clear. Your make peaceful change impossible, you permanently marginalize a large percentage of the population, and you are assholes on top of that, and you will be asking for trouble.


What part of that was confusing to you? How did you manage to confuse yourself about what I said?

Of course you're lying. I've already shown that. And now you're deflecting too.

1. The 6 year long Ken Starr witch hunt was about Whitewater, not Clinton's past allegations of sexual abuse. Though over time, it expanded into filegate, travelgate, vincefostergate, paulajonesgate, monicalewinskigate. You know, what even you called a "witch hunt" when you thought we were talking about Russia! Russia! Russia!. There is no equivalence to that as Democrats have never done that to Republicans. Now either address that or don't, but don't try to pivot that to be about sexual allegations against Clinton.

2. Strzok was kicked off the investigation by Mueller when his bias was exposed to Mueller. Why would Mueller kick him off before learning about it?

3. Is a bullshit claim that a sitting president should never be impeached because it disenfranchises said president's voters. That bullshit is self-evident by the existence of impeachment instructions enshrined in our Constitution on the grounds of "Treason, Bribery, or other High Crimes and Misdemeanors," which is what Trump can be impeached on should Mueller find evidence of such.

4. Of course you were talking about indictment. You even threatened the left should Mueller indict Trump on a process crime.

1. You brought up Jones, not me. Bill was a serial sexual harasser.

2. Support your assumption that Mueller did not know of Strzok's bias.

3. Your justifications for your anti-democratic actions is noted and dismissed. I hope they provide you with some comfort when you realize the terrible damage you have inflicted on this nation. (actually I don't, I hope you are aware enough to realize what a vile thing you have done and that it hurts you terribly)

4. YOur word games bore me. You will be responsible for the results of your actions.

1. I brought up Jones in the context that Starr was involved in that case prior to being named an Independent Counsel to investigate Clinton. The context was about Starr, not Jones or Clinton's past sexual allegations. You should learn about context so you know what people are talking about.

2. The texts first came to light in early December, when the New York Times reported that Mueller had ousted Strzok after learning of the anti-Trump messages. Strzok, who was removed in late July, had sent the messages to an FBI lawyer, Lisa Page.

3. Only a dumbfuck could frame impeachment, as defined in the U.S. Constitution, as terrible damage inflicted upon this nation.

You're a partisan hack, becoming increasingly unhinged by the day.

4. LOL ... I'm quoting you. How the fuck is that "word games?" You said...

BTW, if you fuckers manage to gin up something to get some of his people in jail, for bullshit reasons, such as "perjury traps" or other process "crimes".

DOn't kid yourself, those people will be political prisoners.

This is going to cost you someday.

... how does that not speak to indictment? How is one put in jail without ever being indicted?? You're fucking dumber than shit to position this as though I'm the one playing word games by pointing out you talked about indictments.

1. You've been all over the place, and not making a lot of sense. Maybe you should just restate your point, if you remember it.


2. Nothing in there proves that Mueller did not know of Strzok's bias ahead of time. It is just as likely that the reason for the firing was that the texts would reveal the partisan bias of the whole investigation.


3. YOu keep talking shit. YOu permanently disenfranchise the Trump supporters, and the results of that will come back to bite you in the ass. You should consider the likely consequences of your actions.

 

[Reasonable]

Trump-Russia investigation: the key questions answered

Trump has repeatedly asserted that there has been no collusion and no obstruction.

The NY Post is a tabloid that sells to small minded people like you who loves lurid conspiracy theories.
God you’re such a dope.
You actually make Miketx and Bripat look smart and they’re the lowest bottom feeders on this forum.

Strzok's behavior is not conspiracy theory.


The FBI using democrat party smear material handed to them by a foreign operative is not conspiracy theory.


The shit that Mueller is supposedly investigating? Now that's some serious tin foil hat shit.

All Sean Hannity type conspiracy theories. All your bullshit you swear is going to make a difference NEVER materializes so you just move on to more lies your media tells you then...
Cyclical pattern.

From the BBC.


Clinton team 'funded' Trump dirty dossier


Anthony Zurcher, BBC News, Washington

Political campaigns have been in the business of digging up dirt on their rivals since the dawn of democratic elections. A choice bit of "opposition research", deployed at an opportune moment, can be a decisive factor in a close election.

So it should come as little surprise that supporters of a Republican candidate went to work building a file on Donald Trump during the party primaries or that Democrats took the baton as the general election geared up.

What's unusual - and what will pique the interest of investigators and fuel the suspicions of conservatives - is that after the election, once Hillary Clinton was defeated, the FBI would pick up funding for this investigation.

A topic as sensitive as this - allegations of foreign influence on a presidential campaign - doesn't seem like something the US government should be outsourcing.

There have been plenty of accusations, on both sides of ideological divide, that the FBI has become politicised. Stories like this won't help diminish those concerns.

Clinton retained a law firm.

That law firm paid Fusion GPS to perform opposition research on Trump; which Fusion GPS had performed for a conservative group during the primaries.

Fusion GPS then hired Steele, an ex-British spy with Russian connections, to report on connections between Trump and Russia.

While Hillary's money indirectly went to Steele, it's no more accurate to frame like Hillary funded the dossier than it is to say I funded the dossier since I contributed to Hillary's campaign.

In other words, my money went to Hillary ... Hillary's money went to Perkins Coie ... Perkins Coie's money went to Fusion GPS ... Fusion GPS's money went to Steele ... Steele compiled a dossier. Therefore, I funded the dossier using that logic.

Taken even further, the firm I work for pays me to work for them -- that means they funded the dossier. In fact, you may have paid for services which contract my firm -- that means you may have funded the dossier.

Fusion GPS performed opposition research FOR THE HILLARY CAMPAIGN.

That research, the famous dossier of unverified rumor, once Hillary was defeated, that work and the primary agent doing it, slimed on over to the FBI.


The file was paid for, and created for the Hillary campaign. Calling it "democratic smear material" is completely accurate.


The material was later used and paid for, by the FBI.


The work of fighting against Trump, even though he was now the duly elected President continued uninterrupted.

If you owned a grocery store and the same person kept walking in each day saying, “‘I didn’t steal anything. I really really didn’t.”
What would you think.
I know thinking isn’t your strong point but try.

Now set your biases aside for just a minute. What would you think if a president kept insisting, “ There’s no collusion. There’s no collusion.”
EVEN WHEN NOT ASKED...
What would you think of this president?

 

[Faun]

You’re truly brain-dead. There’s simply no other explanation.

You are an asshole. See, two can play the insult game. The difference is that I am not lying.

1. I’m not making any such equivalency. There is none. There’s no equivalence to the the right letting Ken Starr, who was linked to the Paula Jones case against Clinton, spend 6 years investigating the Clinton’s over allegations made by the right. There’s no equivalence to the right opening up 8 separate investigations into Benghazi. With Gowdy, the architect of the last one, dragging it into an election season nearly 4 years after the attack; admitting it would cost Hillary votes.

Bill Clinton was a serial sexual harasser. Remember, the talking points have changed. THat matters again. That the dems stone walled, and the feminists gave him a pass, doesn't change the facts.

2. There is no political bias in Mueller’s investigation.It’s a bipartisan team Mueller assembled and any bias Mueller encountered, like Strzok, was kicked off the investigation. Your limp efforts to marginalize Muellerfail since Mueller was chosen because of his pristine credibility. While there will certainly be some schmucks on the right who will refuse to accept any indictmentson Trump should any be forthcoming, most of America will accept it.

Strzok was kicked off when he got caught, not a moment before. Until that moment, he was considered to be wonderfully credibly too. Considering that he was not considered a real problem by the FBI, and was placed in such a sensitive position, calls into question the neutrality of the entire agency.

3. There’s no movement on the left to permanently marginalize Trump voters. Mueller is a Republican. He is not the left. Mueller was appointed by Rosenstein, also a Republican. Rosenstein is not the left. Rosenstein was responsible for appointing a special counsel because Sessions recused himself due to his own connections to Tussia. Sessions is also Republican and also not the left. They were appointed by Trump. Trump is also a Republican and not the left. You’re so fucked in the head, you’re blaming the left for the actions of Republicans.

If Trump and his supporters are denied the possibility of advancing their agenda, as is their right for having won the election, for the White House AND the House of Representatives, AND the Senate, AND having a friendly Court,

Then you have removed the option of winning the Democratic Process from a large segment of the population.


Whatever little excuse you have in your mind to claim that that is not permanently marginalizing a large percentage of the population, won't change that.


If you are serious about doing that, you really should consider the consequences.

4. I never said the left is above violence. I pointed out there are some on the right who are threatening violence, as insane as civil war, should Trump be indicted. And you’re just as nuts, since as I showed, the investigation comes from the right, not the left, and it’s actually been the right, not the left, who’s carried out witch hunts and unjust investigations. You unwittingly said so yourself when you called the string of Benghazi investigations as such because you thought I was talking about Mueller’s investigation.

I said nothing about an indictment. My point was very clear. Your make peaceful change impossible, you permanently marginalize a large percentage of the population, and you are assholes on top of that, and you will be asking for trouble.


What part of that was confusing to you? How did you manage to confuse yourself about what I said?

Faun is a troll not worth the time of day.

Meanwhile, in the real world...

https://nypost.com/2018/01/23/evidence-suggests-a-massive-scandal-is-brewing-at-the-fbi/

Good stuff, thanks.



"If either one is true — and I believe both probably are — it would mean FBI leaders betrayed the nation by abusing their powers in a bid to pick the president.

More support for this view involves the FBI’s use of the Russian dossier on Trump that was paid for by the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee. It is almost certain that the FBI used the dossier to get FISA court warrants to spy on Trump associates, meaning it used the opposition research of the party in power to convince a court to let it spy on the candidate of the other party — likely without telling the court of the dossier’s political link.

Even worse, there is growing reason to believe someone in President Barack Obama’s administration turned over classified information about Trump to the Clinton campaign.

As one former federal prosecutor put it, “It doesn’t get worse than that.” That prosecutor, Joseph diGenova, believes Trump was correct when he claimed Obama aides wiretapped his phones at Trump Tower.

These and other elements combine to make a toxic brew that smells to high heaven, but most Americans don’t know much about it. Mainstream media coverage has been sparse and dismissive and there’s a blackout from the same Democrats obsessed with Russia, Russia, Russia."

What the FBI used the dossier for was to present evidence to a FISC that Page did business in Russia; and that was corroborated.

There is no scandal he with the FBI which is why this went nowhere despite GOP hyperbole prior to the release of Nunes' memo that people would go to jail over it. Unfortunately for the GOP, their rhetoric fizzled as soon as America got to see what was actually in Nunes' memo....

If that were true, then why has the dems not called for the release of the Fisa warrants?


Or just leaked them?


Answer: Because they used the dossier, that they knew was shit, to get the warrants.


And they did it, because the bias shown by Strzok is wide spread in the FBI leadership, which explains the FBI's shit behavior.

You're lying again. Case in point, Trump could have declassified the FISA application and released it. Using your strawman logic, that he hasn't means he knows the GOP is full of shit. Members of the GOP could have leaked it. Again, using your strawman logic, that he hasn't means the GOP knows they are full of shit.

 

[Correll]

Trump-Russia investigation: the key questions answered

Trump has repeatedly asserted that there has been no collusion and no obstruction.

Strzok's behavior is not conspiracy theory.


The FBI using democrat party smear material handed to them by a foreign operative is not conspiracy theory.


The shit that Mueller is supposedly investigating? Now that's some serious tin foil hat shit.

All Sean Hannity type conspiracy theories. All your bullshit you swear is going to make a difference NEVER materializes so you just move on to more lies your media tells you then...
Cyclical pattern.

From the BBC.


Clinton team 'funded' Trump dirty dossier


Anthony Zurcher, BBC News, Washington

Political campaigns have been in the business of digging up dirt on their rivals since the dawn of democratic elections. A choice bit of "opposition research", deployed at an opportune moment, can be a decisive factor in a close election.

So it should come as little surprise that supporters of a Republican candidate went to work building a file on Donald Trump during the party primaries or that Democrats took the baton as the general election geared up.

What's unusual - and what will pique the interest of investigators and fuel the suspicions of conservatives - is that after the election, once Hillary Clinton was defeated, the FBI would pick up funding for this investigation.

A topic as sensitive as this - allegations of foreign influence on a presidential campaign - doesn't seem like something the US government should be outsourcing.

There have been plenty of accusations, on both sides of ideological divide, that the FBI has become politicised. Stories like this won't help diminish those concerns.

Clinton retained a law firm.

That law firm paid Fusion GPS to perform opposition research on Trump; which Fusion GPS had performed for a conservative group during the primaries.

Fusion GPS then hired Steele, an ex-British spy with Russian connections, to report on connections between Trump and Russia.

While Hillary's money indirectly went to Steele, it's no more accurate to frame like Hillary funded the dossier than it is to say I funded the dossier since I contributed to Hillary's campaign.

In other words, my money went to Hillary ... Hillary's money went to Perkins Coie ... Perkins Coie's money went to Fusion GPS ... Fusion GPS's money went to Steele ... Steele compiled a dossier. Therefore, I funded the dossier using that logic.

Taken even further, the firm I work for pays me to work for them -- that means they funded the dossier. In fact, you may have paid for services which contract my firm -- that means you may have funded the dossier.

Fusion GPS performed opposition research FOR THE HILLARY CAMPAIGN.

That research, the famous dossier of unverified rumor, once Hillary was defeated, that work and the primary agent doing it, slimed on over to the FBI.


The file was paid for, and created for the Hillary campaign. Calling it "democratic smear material" is completely accurate.


The material was later used and paid for, by the FBI.


The work of fighting against Trump, even though he was now the duly elected President continued uninterrupted.

If you owned a grocery store and the same person kept walking in each day saying, “‘I didn’t steal anything. I really really didn’t.”
What would you think.
I know thinking isn’t your strong point but try.

Now set your biases aside for just a minute. What would you think if a president kept insisting, “ There’s no collusion. There’s no collusion.”
EVEN WHEN NOT ASKED...
What would you think of this president?

I would think that he was not letting the vile filthy media lies pass unchallenged.


Have you ever considered what vile pieces of shit the lefties in the media are?

 

[Faun]

Faun is a troll not worth the time of day.

Meanwhile, in the real world...

https://nypost.com/2018/01/23/evidence-suggests-a-massive-scandal-is-brewing-at-the-fbi/

Good stuff, thanks.



"If either one is true — and I believe both probably are — it would mean FBI leaders betrayed the nation by abusing their powers in a bid to pick the president.

More support for this view involves the FBI’s use of the Russian dossier on Trump that was paid for by the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee. It is almost certain that the FBI used the dossier to get FISA court warrants to spy on Trump associates, meaning it used the opposition research of the party in power to convince a court to let it spy on the candidate of the other party — likely without telling the court of the dossier’s political link.

Even worse, there is growing reason to believe someone in President Barack Obama’s administration turned over classified information about Trump to the Clinton campaign.

As one former federal prosecutor put it, “It doesn’t get worse than that.” That prosecutor, Joseph diGenova, believes Trump was correct when he claimed Obama aides wiretapped his phones at Trump Tower.

These and other elements combine to make a toxic brew that smells to high heaven, but most Americans don’t know much about it. Mainstream media coverage has been sparse and dismissive and there’s a blackout from the same Democrats obsessed with Russia, Russia, Russia."

Trump conducted his own investigation wasting tax payers monies on Obama wiretapping him and the study concluded THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE IT HAPPENED. I see no real news ever filters down to your encephalitic head.

How do you feel about the FBI using a political dossier they knew was full of shit to get a warrant?

The part they used to get the warrant was corroborated and they had faith in their source. When do you stop posting bullshit?

Text of Declassified Dems Memo About FBI's Russia Probe

— DOJ's October 21, 2016 FISA application and three subsequent renewals carefully outlined for the Court a multi-pronged rationale for surveilling Page, who, at the time of the first application, was no longer with the Trump campaign. DOJ detailed Page's past relationships with Russian spies and interaction with Russian officials during the 2016 campaign, (REDACTED) DOJ cited multiple sources to support the case for surveilling Page — but made only narrow use of information from Steele's sources about Page's specific activities in 2016, chiefly his suspected July 2016 meetings in Moscow with officials, in the FBI interviewed Page in March 2016 about his contact with Russian intelligence, the very month candidate Donald Trump named him a foreign policy advisor.

As DOJ informed the Court in subsequent renewals, (REDACTED) Steele's reporting about Page's Moscow meetings (REDACTED) DOJ's applications did not otherwise rely on Steele's reporting, including any "salacious" allegations about Trump, and the FBI never paid Steele for this reporting. While explaining why the FBI viewed Steele's reporting and sources as reliable and credible, DOJ also disclosed:

— Steele's prior relationship with the FBI;

— the fact of and reason for his termination as a source; and

— the assessed political motivation of those who hired him.

— The Committee Majority's memorandum, which draws selectively on highly sensitive classified information, includes other distortions and misrepresentations that arc contradicted by the underlying classified documents, which the vast majority of Members of the Committee and the House have not had the opportunity to review - and which Chairman Nunes chose not to read himself.​

That's pretty cool.

I discuss the fact that the dems have not released the applications for the warrant,


and you post excerpts from a memo ABOUT the applications for the warrant.



Soooo, thanks. I guess.

You poor thing, bless your heart. You just can't stop lying.

My post to you was in response to you saying...

How do you feel about the FBI using a political dossier they knew was full of shit to get a warrant?​

... to which I presented evidence, speaking directly to your question, that the FBI didn't believe the parts of dossier used to obtain the warrant were full of shit.

You ignore that and now switch to a strawman about the FISA application not being released. Even worse for you, the first time you suggested Dems haven't called for releasing that application came after your post that I responded to.

 

[Correll]

You are an asshole. See, two can play the insult game. The difference is that I am not lying.


Bill Clinton was a serial sexual harasser. Remember, the talking points have changed. THat matters again. That the dems stone walled, and the feminists gave him a pass, doesn't change the facts.


Strzok was kicked off when he got caught, not a moment before. Until that moment, he was considered to be wonderfully credibly too. Considering that he was not considered a real problem by the FBI, and was placed in such a sensitive position, calls into question the neutrality of the entire agency.



If Trump and his supporters are denied the possibility of advancing their agenda, as is their right for having won the election, for the White House AND the House of Representatives, AND the Senate, AND having a friendly Court,

Then you have removed the option of winning the Democratic Process from a large segment of the population.


Whatever little excuse you have in your mind to claim that that is not permanently marginalizing a large percentage of the population, won't change that.


If you are serious about doing that, you really should consider the consequences.


I said nothing about an indictment. My point was very clear. Your make peaceful change impossible, you permanently marginalize a large percentage of the population, and you are assholes on top of that, and you will be asking for trouble.


What part of that was confusing to you? How did you manage to confuse yourself about what I said?

Faun is a troll not worth the time of day.

Meanwhile, in the real world...

https://nypost.com/2018/01/23/evidence-suggests-a-massive-scandal-is-brewing-at-the-fbi/

Good stuff, thanks.



"If either one is true — and I believe both probably are — it would mean FBI leaders betrayed the nation by abusing their powers in a bid to pick the president.

More support for this view involves the FBI’s use of the Russian dossier on Trump that was paid for by the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee. It is almost certain that the FBI used the dossier to get FISA court warrants to spy on Trump associates, meaning it used the opposition research of the party in power to convince a court to let it spy on the candidate of the other party — likely without telling the court of the dossier’s political link.

Even worse, there is growing reason to believe someone in President Barack Obama’s administration turned over classified information about Trump to the Clinton campaign.

As one former federal prosecutor put it, “It doesn’t get worse than that.” That prosecutor, Joseph diGenova, believes Trump was correct when he claimed Obama aides wiretapped his phones at Trump Tower.

These and other elements combine to make a toxic brew that smells to high heaven, but most Americans don’t know much about it. Mainstream media coverage has been sparse and dismissive and there’s a blackout from the same Democrats obsessed with Russia, Russia, Russia."

What the FBI used the dossier for was to present evidence to a FISC that Page did business in Russia; and that was corroborated.

There is no scandal he with the FBI which is why this went nowhere despite GOP hyperbole prior to the release of Nunes' memo that people would go to jail over it. Unfortunately for the GOP, their rhetoric fizzled as soon as America got to see what was actually in Nunes' memo....

If that were true, then why has the dems not called for the release of the Fisa warrants?


Or just leaked them?


Answer: Because they used the dossier, that they knew was shit, to get the warrants.


And they did it, because the bias shown by Strzok is wide spread in the FBI leadership, which explains the FBI's shit behavior.

You're lying again. Case in point, Trump could have declassified the FISA application and released it. Using your strawman logic, that he hasn't means he knows the GOP is full of shit. Members of the GOP could have leaked it. Again, using your strawman logic, that he hasn't means the GOP knows they are full of shit.

The republicans don't dare leak. They would be caught and sent to jail.


The lefties in the government know that they will be taken care of by their fellow travelers, and given cover or even a pass if caught.

 

[Faun]

Faun is a troll not worth the time of day.

Meanwhile, in the real world...

https://nypost.com/2018/01/23/evidence-suggests-a-massive-scandal-is-brewing-at-the-fbi/

Good stuff, thanks.



"If either one is true — and I believe both probably are — it would mean FBI leaders betrayed the nation by abusing their powers in a bid to pick the president.

More support for this view involves the FBI’s use of the Russian dossier on Trump that was paid for by the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee. It is almost certain that the FBI used the dossier to get FISA court warrants to spy on Trump associates, meaning it used the opposition research of the party in power to convince a court to let it spy on the candidate of the other party — likely without telling the court of the dossier’s political link.

Even worse, there is growing reason to believe someone in President Barack Obama’s administration turned over classified information about Trump to the Clinton campaign.

As one former federal prosecutor put it, “It doesn’t get worse than that.” That prosecutor, Joseph diGenova, believes Trump was correct when he claimed Obama aides wiretapped his phones at Trump Tower.

These and other elements combine to make a toxic brew that smells to high heaven, but most Americans don’t know much about it. Mainstream media coverage has been sparse and dismissive and there’s a blackout from the same Democrats obsessed with Russia, Russia, Russia."

The NY Post is a tabloid that sells to small minded people like you who loves lurid conspiracy theories.
God you’re such a dope.
You actually make Miketx and Bripat look smart and they’re the lowest bottom feeders on this forum.

Strzok's behavior is not conspiracy theory.


The FBI using democrat party smear material handed to them by a foreign operative is not conspiracy theory.


The shit that Mueller is supposedly investigating? Now that's some serious tin foil hat shit.

That too is a lie. The material the FBI used from the dossier was compiled by an ex British spy. It was not "Democrat party smear material."....

Steele put together the dossier first for the dems then shopped it to the FBI.


Indeed, the line between the Dem Party and the various libs in government AND thus their agencies seems oddly blurred.

That too is a lie. You obviously have no clue what this is all about since all you're posting are lies.

You have no evidence Steele put his dossier together for Democrats. His client was Fusion GPS. That is not Democrats. You have posted absolutely zero proof that Steele knew Hillary or the DNC was involved.

 

[Faun]

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Trump conducted his own investigation wasting tax payers monies on Obama wiretapping him and the study concluded THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE IT HAPPENED. I see no real news ever filters down to your encephalitic head.

How do you feel about the FBI using a political dossier they knew was full of shit to get a warrant?

It wasn't Trump or Fox that convinced me of anything.


It was you libs who convinced me that you are so full of hate and so smug that you would violate your professional responsibilities for the bullshit reasons that you tell yourself.

^^^ projection

LOL!!


I refuse to believe you are so incredibly dense that you are unaware how full of hate you are.

^^^ more projection

 

[Political Junky]

Herman Munster......Err.....Mueller will save The Democrat Party from going extinct.
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Mueller is a republican, but not a Nazi.

 

[Faun]

Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III is now directly gunning for President Trump — and not just on one front. It appears that Mueller is investigating whether Trump himself committed misconduct or possible criminality on two fronts, and possibly more.

NBC News is now reporting that Mueller has sent a subpoena to an unnamed witness that appears to hint at just how wide a net Mueller has cast. NBC reports that the subpoena suggests Mueller is focused, among other things, on determining what Trump himself knew about Russian sabotage of the 2016 election as it was happening.

The subpoena demands a range of documents that involve Trump himself, in addition to nine of his top campaign advisers and associates. The documents solicited include emails, text messages, work papers and telephone logs dating back to November 2015, about four months after Trump declared his presidential candidacy.

Well, it was definitely worth the wait. I'm sure we still have many months to go, so nobody should get too happy. But the man is hard at work, and Trump is panicking.

Opinion | Mueller is casting a wide net. We now know the target is Trump.

The beauty of Mueller's investigation is that a Repub POTUS is being investigated by Repubs, so idiot Trumpsters can't blame President Obama and/or Hillary. What a hoot.!!!!!!!!

I suggest you look at all of the Dem partisans on Mueller's team, bub.

Oh? What "Dem partisans" are on Mueller's team??

Most of them. And it's significant that Comey is the one who instigated this farce by leaking confidential government information so that his BFF could be appointed.

Robert Mueller Team: Nine Donated to Hillary or Democrats | Heavy.com

LOL

Donations don't demonstrate partisanship.

If donations to Democrats mean you’re anti-Trump, the White House is in very deep trouble