It is past time we dispense with the notion Trump did not know he was.........

[berg80]

breaking the law.

Lawyer Told Trump Defying Documents Subpoena Would Be a Crime

Not long after federal prosecutors issued a subpoena last year for all the classified documents that former President Donald J. Trump took with him from the White House to his estate in southern Florida, one of his lawyers told him, in no uncertain terms, that it would be a crime if he did not comply with the demand, according to a person familiar with the matter.

The lawyer, Jennifer Little, this year related the account of her discussion with Mr. Trump to a grand jury overseen by the special counsel Jack Smith. She is one of several witnesses who prosecutors were told had advised Mr. Trump to cooperate.

A few months after Ms. Little testified to the grand jury, Mr. Smith charged Mr. Trump with violating the subpoena for the documents and obstructing the government’s repeated efforts to reclaim nearly three dozen classified documents that he removed from the White House.

As part of her grand jury appearance, Ms. Little told prosecutors that the former president clearly understood her warning, the person familiar with the matter said.
Lawyer Told Trump Defying Documents Subpoena Would Be a Crime

Or for that matter, whether he understood he had lost the election. There have been too many people who testified otherwise to maintain a belief in contradiction to the facts in evidence.

Even if you claim Don maintained the delusional belief the documents belonged to him, which is not really a defense, holding to an erroneous belief does not excuse non-compliance with a subpoena for the documents in his possession.

 

[rightwinger]

It is that Trump does not CARE if he breaks the law

 

[berg80]

It is that Trump does not CARE if he breaks the law

Because until now his experience in life has lead him to believe he is above the law. He has used his inherited fortune or his position to evade accountability.

 

[MinTrut]

breaking the law.

Lawyer Told Trump Defying Documents Subpoena Would Be a Crime

Not long after federal prosecutors issued a subpoena last year for all the classified documents that former President Donald J. Trump took with him from the White House to his estate in southern Florida, one of his lawyers told him, in no uncertain terms, that it would be a crime if he did not comply with the demand, according to a person familiar with the matter.

The lawyer, Jennifer Little, this year related the account of her discussion with Mr. Trump to a grand jury overseen by the special counsel Jack Smith. She is one of several witnesses who prosecutors were told had advised Mr. Trump to cooperate.

A few months after Ms. Little testified to the grand jury, Mr. Smith charged Mr. Trump with violating the subpoena for the documents and obstructing the government’s repeated efforts to reclaim nearly three dozen classified documents that he removed from the White House.

As part of her grand jury appearance, Ms. Little told prosecutors that the former president clearly understood her warning, the person familiar with the matter said.
Lawyer Told Trump Defying Documents Subpoena Would Be a Crime

Or for that matter, whether he understood he had lost the election. There have been too many people who testified otherwise to maintain a belief in contradiction to the facts in evidence.

Even if you claim Don maintained the delusional belief the documents belonged to him, which is not really a defense, holding to an erroneous belief does not excuse non-compliance with a subpoena for the documents in his possession.

Different lawyers, different advice.

Also, Trump is being subjected to a deranged and sinister witch hunt in service of the DeepSwamp & permanent war state.

He's being crucified to prevent his re-election and interference in their deeply desired escalation of WWIII, as well as to serve as a warning:

Those outside the circle of the DeepSwamp will be destroyed.

Schumer made it very clear what would happen to Trump, and he has indeed been attacked 6 ways and then some.

 

[sealybobo]

breaking the law.

Lawyer Told Trump Defying Documents Subpoena Would Be a Crime

Not long after federal prosecutors issued a subpoena last year for all the classified documents that former President Donald J. Trump took with him from the White House to his estate in southern Florida, one of his lawyers told him, in no uncertain terms, that it would be a crime if he did not comply with the demand, according to a person familiar with the matter.

The lawyer, Jennifer Little, this year related the account of her discussion with Mr. Trump to a grand jury overseen by the special counsel Jack Smith. She is one of several witnesses who prosecutors were told had advised Mr. Trump to cooperate.

A few months after Ms. Little testified to the grand jury, Mr. Smith charged Mr. Trump with violating the subpoena for the documents and obstructing the government’s repeated efforts to reclaim nearly three dozen classified documents that he removed from the White House.

As part of her grand jury appearance, Ms. Little told prosecutors that the former president clearly understood her warning, the person familiar with the matter said.
Lawyer Told Trump Defying Documents Subpoena Would Be a Crime

Or for that matter, whether he understood he had lost the election. There have been too many people who testified otherwise to maintain a belief in contradiction to the facts in evidence.

Even if you claim Don maintained the delusional belief the documents belonged to him, which is not really a defense, holding to an erroneous belief does not excuse non-compliance with a subpoena for the documents in his possession.

I heard the witnesses in this case are different than in the other cases. In the other cases Trump can say

a. The prosecutors threatened them with jail time if they don't go along
b. The person is trying to make money, sell a book.
c. A traitor

But in this case, it's Trump employees at Mara Lago who are going to testify what they say, what they were told to do, hide/move boxes, when, who told them to do it, etc.

I bet Trump never told them. And the person who did will go to jail for Trump. Trump will say he didn't know and dindu nuthin wrong.

 

[berg80]

Different lawyers, different advice.

Under what scenario would it be legal to ignore a subpoena to return classified docs to the National Archive? None. He was told it was illegal, because it was. Therefore, he knowingly broke the law.

 

[berg80]

I heard the witnesses in this case are different than in the other cases. In the other cases Trump can say

a. The prosecutors threatened them with jail time if they don't go along
b. The person is trying to make money, sell a book.
c. A traitor

But in this case, it's Trump employees at Mara Lago who are going to testify what they say, what they were told to do, hide/move boxes, when, who told them to do it, etc.

I bet Trump never told them. And the person who did will go to jail for Trump. Trump will say he didn't know and dindu nuthin wrong.

Donald Trump asked for boxes of records at Mar-a-Lago to be moved after receiving a government subpoena to return them, an employee of the former president reportedly told the FBI.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2...ador-gordon-sondland-ukraine-impeachment-book
The Mar-a-Lago employee is cooperating with the US Department of Justice and has been interviewed multiple times by federal agents, the Washington Post said.

The Post, CNN and New York Times also reported that the FBI had obtained surveillance footage.

Trump ordered records moved after subpoena, Mar-a-Lago staffer said â reports

FBI has surveillance footage confirming testimony of employee who spoke to investigators, Washington Post and CNN say

www.theguardian.com

 

[fncceo]

Because until now his experience in life has lead him to believe he is above the law. He has used his inherited fortune or his position to evade accountability.

Be nice, he's going to be your President again, real soon.

 

[DGS49]

So, he is being advised by a small team of Attorneys, and one of them told him this...so that was the definitive answer.

Only an ignoramus would draw that conclusion. There are scores of legal pundits around the country who advised him directly or indirectly that because of his UNIQUE ability to declassify documents on his own (and without documentation), there was no criminality involved.

I realize that's more than most Leftist's can grasp - two differing, but legitimate opinions on a legal matter - but...deal with it.

 

[rightwinger]

So, he is being advised by a small team of Attorneys, and one of them told him this...so that was the definitive answer.

Only an ignoramus would draw that conclusion. There are scores of legal pundits around the country who advised him directly or indirectly that because of his UNIQUE ability to declassify documents on his own (and without documentation), there was no criminality involved.

I realize that's more than most Leftist's can grasp - two differing, but legitimate opinions on a legal matter - but...deal with it.

No attorney is advising Trump that he can declassify just by thinking about it

That is a story for MAGA morons

 

[kaz]

breaking the law.

Lawyer Told Trump Defying Documents Subpoena Would Be a Crime

Not long after federal prosecutors issued a subpoena last year for all the classified documents that former President Donald J. Trump took with him from the White House to his estate in southern Florida, one of his lawyers told him, in no uncertain terms, that it would be a crime if he did not comply with the demand, according to a person familiar with the matter.

The lawyer, Jennifer Little, this year related the account of her discussion with Mr. Trump to a grand jury overseen by the special counsel Jack Smith. She is one of several witnesses who prosecutors were told had advised Mr. Trump to cooperate.

A few months after Ms. Little testified to the grand jury, Mr. Smith charged Mr. Trump with violating the subpoena for the documents and obstructing the government’s repeated efforts to reclaim nearly three dozen classified documents that he removed from the White House.

As part of her grand jury appearance, Ms. Little told prosecutors that the former president clearly understood her warning, the person familiar with the matter said.
Lawyer Told Trump Defying Documents Subpoena Would Be a Crime

Or for that matter, whether he understood he had lost the election. There have been too many people who testified otherwise to maintain a belief in contradiction to the facts in evidence.

Even if you claim Don maintained the delusional belief the documents belonged to him, which is not really a defense, holding to an erroneous belief does not excuse non-compliance with a subpoena for the documents in his possession.

Everyone knows you DID steal the election. Trump was right, MAGA man

 

[berg80]

Everyone knows you DID steal the election. Trump was right, MAGA man

C'mon man, you're just trolling.

 

[kaz]

I heard the witnesses in this case are different than in the other cases. In the other cases Trump can say

a. The prosecutors threatened them with jail time if they don't go along
b. The person is trying to make money, sell a book.
c. A traitor

But in this case, it's Trump employees at Mara Lago who are going to testify what they say, what they were told to do, hide/move boxes, when, who told them to do it, etc.

I bet Trump never told them. And the person who did will go to jail for Trump. Trump will say he didn't know and dindu nuthin wrong.

Your complete lack of giving a shit over Biden's family crimes shows what a hack lying Democrat you are about having these or any standards, MAGA man

 

[sealybobo]

Your complete lack of giving a shit over Biden's family crimes shows what a hack lying Democrat you are about having these or any standards, MAGA man

Drop in the bucket compared to Trump. IF Biden has even done anything wrong. So far you have shown us nothing. It's why you want to interview Hunter in private. So you can make shit up. Selective leaks. Lie.

Fuck you. Interview him in public. Show us what you have. Ask your questions. Hunter will show up to testify. Not like Trump.

 

[kaz]

C'mon man, you're just trolling.

Fool me once, shame on me. Steal six States, shame on you. Deny it, you're just a shallow, obvious liar, MAGA man

 

[kaz]

Drop in the bucket compared to Trump. IF Biden has even done anything wrong. So far you have shown us nothing. It's why you want to interview Hunter in private. So you can make shit up. Selective leaks. Lie.

Fuck you. Interview him in public. Show us what you have. Ask your questions. Hunter will show up to testify. Not like Trump.

You're just saying that because you hate Trump and as a leftist you believe it's a crime to disagree with you.

Democrats aren't taking you with them when they win, Champ. You're the Marxist, you know that. Just stop, MAGA man

 

[sealybobo]

Your complete lack of giving a shit over Biden's family crimes shows what a hack lying Democrat you are about having these or any standards, MAGA man

Here's a great example. We found out Trump had classified documents. Yes I wanted to prosecute him for it. Then I found out a lot of former presidents and vp's have some classified documents. I don't like it, but I guess if Trump isn't the only one, fuck it. Sort of like Hillary wasn't the only one using private emails. Team Trump did it too. But when they go after her for it, how can you ignore it when you find out they're now doing it? In fact Trump made mishandling classified documents a felony. So now he is subject to tougher laws than Hillary was. You following me?

Anyways, so after we find out they all have classified documents, Trump proceeds to

a. Not turn over what he has
b. Lie to FBI
c. Sell those top secret documents. Or give them away for free, which is in some ways worse.

 

[berg80]

Your complete lack of giving a shit over Biden's family crimes

We keep covering the same ground with these repeated allegations having no supporting evidence. Do you honestly think the House Repubs would not vote to impeach Joe if they had the evidence or the votes to do so? They have neither.

 

[sealybobo]

Fool me once, shame on me. Steal six States, shame on you. Deny it, you're just a shallow, obvious liar, MAGA man

It's so funny that you guys deny Bush stole Florida. One state, that his brother ran. But then 20 years later you use all the same tactics Bush used to steal Florida to try to steal 2020.

Including starting a riot to stop the recount. Remember that? Who started that riot? Roger Stone? So Roger Stone was involved in stealing 2000 and he was involved in trying to steal 2020. And Trump pardoned him for something unrelated. Isn't this all interesting?

For example, Republicans accuse Dominion Voting Machines of being shady. They weren't. But Diebold Voting Machines from 2000 turned out to be super shady.

Republicans need to stop trying to steal elections.

The idea we stole 5 states, is silly. Impossible. And all the evidence Republicans have, is hogwash bullshit.

 

[Lesh]

breaking the law.

Lawyer Told Trump Defying Documents Subpoena Would Be a Crime

Not long after federal prosecutors issued a subpoena last year for all the classified documents that former President Donald J. Trump took with him from the White House to his estate in southern Florida, one of his lawyers told him, in no uncertain terms, that it would be a crime if he did not comply with the demand, according to a person familiar with the matter.

The lawyer, Jennifer Little, this year related the account of her discussion with Mr. Trump to a grand jury overseen by the special counsel Jack Smith. She is one of several witnesses who prosecutors were told had advised Mr. Trump to cooperate.

A few months after Ms. Little testified to the grand jury, Mr. Smith charged Mr. Trump with violating the subpoena for the documents and obstructing the government’s repeated efforts to reclaim nearly three dozen classified documents that he removed from the White House.

As part of her grand jury appearance, Ms. Little told prosecutors that the former president clearly understood her warning, the person familiar with the matter said.
Lawyer Told Trump Defying Documents Subpoena Would Be a Crime

Or for that matter, whether he understood he had lost the election. There have been too many people who testified otherwise to maintain a belief in contradiction to the facts in evidence.

Even if you claim Don maintained the delusional belief the documents belonged to him, which is not really a defense, holding to an erroneous belief does not excuse non-compliance with a subpoena for the documents in his possession.

Just curious, if one lawyer tells Trump he would be committing a crime and another tells him he would not… how does this fall?

That WILL be his defense you know