Mother Russia: What do the liberals think now

Russia is living the conservative dream right now!

More propaganda. I come across very very very few conservatives who want to jail gays. As far as regulating sexuality though; conservatives and liberals are both quite guilty if we're going to be honest with ourselves. (Of course, you are only 'honest' when it suits your agenda and therefore dishonest).
 
NEWSFLASH: Russia was never "admired" by liberals in this country. Quite the contrary, the Liberal Presidents of this country did the best they could to fight them without starting a hot war.

John F. Kennedy, a self avowed Liberal, was killed by Commie loving Lee Harvey Oswald.

Russia has always been a conservative nation...communism is conservative, not liberal. But don't try to spread fairy tales...Oswald had ties to the CIA.
 
The far right religious arm of the TPM are in firm agreement with the commies.

Fakey, you're in firm agreement with the commies. You've even been caught posting their propaganda right here in the forum.

patty, you are in the communist arms, you have been caught of posting WHO communist front material only on issues. Your betters, including me, post from a widely divergent group of sources.

Anarchists like you are . . . anarchical. :lol: No one gives anything you say serious consideration, buddy.
 
Russia is becoming the country we were while we are becoming the country Russia was. It isn't Russia protecting terrorists in Syria, it's the US.
 
I wonder, what do they think...

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Russia's Crackdown On 'Gay Propaganda' And Popular Illiberalism

Mark Adomanis
6/29/13

Over at The Nation, Alec Luhn recently wrote a quite good summary of the recently-passed ban on “gay propaganda” and the generally perilous state of gay rights in Russia. I encourage everyone to read the full article, particularly because it does an excellent job of showing that Russian gay rights activists are themselves deeply conflicted and divided about what to do next. Some, particularly those that get the most attention in the West, want to focus on holding large public demonstrations of gay pride. Others think that Russian gays should adopt a more cautious stance that is based on coming out to family and close friends and then gradually broadening out from there.*

The point is that Russia’s gays are not united in lockstep behind a particular issue, strategy, or goal, but are people with all of the messiness, bickering, and spontaneity that that entails. That might sound rather obvious or banal, but in discussions about the ban on “gay propaganda” there is an unfortunate tendency to lump Russia’s gays together into some homogeneous and undifferentiated mass.

But what really struck me about Luhn’s article, what really got me thinking, was the widespread popularity of anti-gay sentiment. The Duma bill banning “gay propaganda” passed unanimously. Not a single member of the official opposition felt comfortable voting against it. Obviously the opposition doesn’t doesn’t control the Duma, United Russia does, but the Communists, the LDPR, and other groups have no problem voting against various sorts of economic and fiscal policies. Yes the Duma is hardly a paragon of democratic accountability, but unanimous bills are still quite rare and it seems worth noting how quickly its deputies fell in line behind the legislation.

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Russia's Crackdown On 'Gay Propaganda' And Popular Illiberalism - Forbes

On the issue of Syria, Russia is right. You can say that without endorsing ALL things Russian, you know!
 
Russia is right with their anti gay propaganda law too. Gay propaganda cannot be disseminated to minors. Simple, straightforward, correct and something the Russian people want.

Russians see what gay activism has done in the United States. They don't want it there. They are correct.
 
NEWSFLASH: Russia was never "admired" by liberals in this country. Quite the contrary, the Liberal Presidents of this country did the best they could to fight them without starting a hot war.

John F. Kennedy, a self avowed Liberal, was killed by Commie loving Lee Harvey Oswald.

Russia has always been a conservative nation...communism is conservative, not liberal. But don't try to spread fairy tales...Oswald had ties to the CIA.

that is the most idiotic post on this forum EVER :lol:

communism is the most left on the scale. Russia was never communist, it was and still is ( mentally) SOCIALIST which is a left political affiliation.

Both socialism and communism require totalitarian regime to be imposed - otherwise they can't exist - and that is what USSR and other socialist countries did.
 
Russia is right with their anti gay propaganda law too. Gay propaganda cannot be disseminated to minors. Simple, straightforward, correct and something the Russian people want.

Russians see what gay activism has done in the United States. They don't want it there. They are correct.

Except you fail to understand that they could not care less about gays altogether.

Any law which contains the words "propaganda" is aimed at crushing political opposition only, no matter whom they are supposedly attacking now.

Like our "hate crime" laws - those are also aimed at potential political opposition.

Homosexuals have been "persecuted" de jure in the USSR, but de facto - always have had easy life all the way up to the Politburo. Soviet Union was founded by homosexuals.
 
Russia is becoming the country we were while we are becoming the country Russia was. It isn't Russia protecting terrorists in Syria, it's the US.

please.

You really have no idea what Russia is, was and ever could be.

There is NO RESEMBLANCE with the US whatsoever.

Never WAS, never will be,

The fundamental difference is in the worldview.

Russia IS, WAS and will be a COLLECTIVIST country.

USA was founded and built on the INDIVIDUALIST priorities.
 
Russia is becoming the country we were while we are becoming the country Russia was. It isn't Russia protecting terrorists in Syria, it's the US.

please.

You really have no idea what Russia is, was and ever could be.

There is NO RESEMBLANCE with the US whatsoever.

Never WAS, never will be,

The fundamental difference is in the worldview.

Russia IS, WAS and will be a COLLECTIVIST country.

USA was founded and built on the INDIVIDUALIST priorities.

Nobody notices that American individualism is on the way out? That's why Sandra Day O'Conner said (referring to Bush's warrantless, ie., illegal wiretapping) 'it takes a long time for a country to degenerate into dictatorship, but we should avoid that end by avoiding these beginnings.'
 
Russia is becoming the country we were while we are becoming the country Russia was. It isn't Russia protecting terrorists in Syria, it's the US.

please.

You really have no idea what Russia is, was and ever could be.

There is NO RESEMBLANCE with the US whatsoever.

Never WAS, never will be,

The fundamental difference is in the worldview.

Russia IS, WAS and will be a COLLECTIVIST country.

USA was founded and built on the INDIVIDUALIST priorities.

Nobody notices that American individualism is on the way out? That's why Sandra Day O'Conner said (referring to Bush's warrantless, ie., illegal wiretapping) 'it takes a long time for a country to degenerate into dictatorship, but we should avoid that end by avoiding these beginnings.'

forcing "to be on the way out" by leftard loons as a political agenda is totally different than being the inherent part of national mentality. Russia has been a collectivist country for ages, as opposed, to the neighboring Ukraine or Poland, for example.
that is why socialist notions are still alive there and will always have their crowd.
As opposed to the situation in the US, where the socialist crowd is being created - through government dependency.
 
please.

You really have no idea what Russia is, was and ever could be.

There is NO RESEMBLANCE with the US whatsoever.

Never WAS, never will be,

The fundamental difference is in the worldview.

Russia IS, WAS and will be a COLLECTIVIST country.

USA was founded and built on the INDIVIDUALIST priorities.

Nobody notices that American individualism is on the way out? That's why Sandra Day O'Conner said (referring to Bush's warrantless, ie., illegal wiretapping) 'it takes a long time for a country to degenerate into dictatorship, but we should avoid that end by avoiding these beginnings.'

forcing "to be on the way out" by leftard loons as a political agenda is totally different than being the inherent part of national mentality. Russia has been a collectivist country for ages, as opposed, to the neighboring Ukraine or Poland, for example.
that is why socialist notions are still alive there and will always have their crowd.
As opposed to the situation in the US, where the socialist crowd is being created - through government dependency.

Well I wasn't speaking to the means. It's the end result that matters. And justice O'Conner was speaking of actions by a rightard loon!
 
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Russia under the czars was collectivist...ay caramba lol. The USSR WAS totalitarian communist. Both they and Hitler had socialism in their name for purely propaganda purposes. Socialism is highly regulated capitalism and always democratic..
 

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