Mother Mary is here to stay

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    Right. And then Jesus proceeded to turn water into wine for no other reason than Mary mentioned they had run out. She didn’t ask him to do it. He even commented it was of no concern of his, but he did it anyway for her.

    Why else do you think the account was told that way? Do you believe her passing comment that they had run out of wine was important for us to know for some other reason? If it was of no concern to Jesus that they had run out of wine, why did he turn water into wine for them if not for his mother's passing comment?

    I'm guessing you are a JW.
     
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    No need. Man was created from dust and it was good.

    Do you really believe that God created evil?
     
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    We don't worship Mary. That's your error. That's why I wanted you to tell me in your own words what you believe we blasphemed.

    Please do tell me how I worship Mary.
     
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    I believe that Mary was highly regarded among others sinners. She needed the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus as much as anyone else ever did. I do not believe Mary is queen of heaven, nor does she presently know what is happening here on this planet anymore than anyone else who is among those saved by the grace of GOD through Jesus the Messiah. Mary has her place among Ester, Sarah, and even Rahab. They all have a share in the coming of the Messiah and they are all read about in the Bible...
     
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    What a nonsense. Since when needs a mother the death of her child? Since when sacrifices a mother her child for to save you? Are you crazy?


     
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    You said...
    Which was and is, a lie.

    You have the audacity to tell me,
    I should probably treat His mother,
    with a little more respect....

    This, coming from someone who is blind,
    following and listening to others, that are blind,

    who can't even capitalize a letter, when referring to Him,
    stating things He never said, claiming things, no where in Scripture,
    and the basis of your arguments always rely on self...
    Not God's Word but, Ding's foolishness


    Now its....
    NO DING A LING...THERE WAS A REASON,
    WHICH HAD NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH
    HER TELLING HIM, THERE WAS NO MORE WINE....
    HE DIDN'T DO IT FOR HER

    STOP RELYING ON SELF...YOU'RE SPEAKING LIES
    This beginning of signs Jesus did in Cana of Galilee,
    and manifested His glory; and His disciples believed in Him

    John 2:11

    That's why...to manifest His glory, to fulfill Scripture
    and as a sign for testimony...I Am He

    Furthermore, it is the first, of 7 signs
    the Book of John bears witness to,

    and occurred on the 3rd day,
    following His baptism by John the Baptist
    the Holy Spirit descending upon Him,
    and John's testimony that He is the Son of God

    Jesus doesn't address Mary by her name,
    nor does He address her as mother or mom,
    He addresses her as woman

    When Jesus instructed the servants,
    to fill the stone waterpots with water,
    they already contained water, used for hand washing
    according to Jewish tradition and purification rituals....

    Jesus is demonstrating that He is
    superior to the rituals and traditions of men
    and, keeping with rabbinical teaching
    stone could not be ritually defiled.

    When Jesus instructed the servants
    to draw some out and give it to the master of the feast,
    the head waiter of the feast told the bridegroom,
    you saved the best wine for last....

    Christ used the water, used for ritual cleansing in the Old Covenant
    and transformed it into the best wine of the wedding feast.

    We are baptized and brought to Christ by faith,
    and are saved and brought to God, through the blood of Christ

    We have been invited to the wedding by the Bridegroom,
    and the Master of the feast, prepared the table

    Keep thinking the significance of John 2,
    is all about Mary telling Jesus..."They have no wine"
    Wrong...you are only wise in your own eyes
     
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    I don't really see your point. I think you are reading way too much into it. He hadn't even started his ministry yet. Personally, I think you have an ax to grind with Catholics.
     
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    Mary knew that she gave birth to an alien baby, so didn't mind what happened to him and was actually quite miffed that aliens had impregnated her the way they did.
     
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    Wow...reading way too much into it
    Darling, it's obvious to me

    I wasn't making a point,
    I was sharing the point of the miracle

    The significance of what Christ did,
    having nothing to do with what Mary said

    You should not be trying to see my point,
    you should see if what I'm stating, aligns with Gods Word

    Again, you are wrong...Jesus had begun His ministry
    Why do you not know the Father, nor the Son,
    whom you profess to belong to and place your faith in?

    I don't have a problem with Catholics,
    I have a problem with religion and teachings,
    as far as, where the God and Father of Christ are concerned.

    Frankly, it wouldn't matter if I had an ax to grind,
    it matters whether or not, God has an ax to grind
     
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    English please
     

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