Most famous liberals?

[rdean]

Jesus advocated for personal responsibility, submission to the authority of God and for moral restraint.

He was a conservative.

"Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you."

I don't love my enemies. I want to be protected from them.

“Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”

Sounds good. Also means, support their rights as you want yours supported. If they haven't done anything bad to you or yours, don't turn your back on them.

"Love your neighbor as yourself."

Same as above.

"Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God."

That can only go so far. At some point, a line must be drawn and woe be to the one that crosses it.

Hearken to the word; understand knowledge; love life, and no one will persecute you, nor will anyone oppress you, other than you yourselves.

Science is knowledge, magical creation is ideology. They are NOT the same thing. Conservatives goal is to suppress the world.

Jesus

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[☭proletarian☭]

Jesus was conservative.

Tell that to the pharisees and Saducees- or thr Romans of the timr

 

[☭proletarian☭]

Jesus advocated for personal responsibility, submission to the authority of God and for moral restraint.

He was a conservative.

He argued against statism, preached socialist ideas, never worked, redistributed wealth, railed against the wealthy, bucked against the religious authority, cast aside the laws and morals of the time in favor of his own...

 

[B L Zeebub]

John Lennon and Winston Churchill

 

[☭proletarian☭]

The socialist do-gooders always do.

Odd thing is that I've been asking, for years now, them to point out where in scripture Jesus told his followers to force their neighbor to help the poor, and not one citation has been offered up.

Another example of h9s liberalism- rejection of right-wing authoritarianism

 

[Douger]

Jesus was conservative.

His"father" certainly was.
" Kill'em all and let ME sort them out."

 

[The Rabbi]

Jesus advocated for personal responsibility, submission to the authority of God and for moral restraint.

He was a conservative.

"Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you."

“Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”

"Love your neighbor as yourself."

"Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God."

Hearken to the word; understand knowledge; love life, and no one will persecute you, nor will anyone oppress you, other than you yourselves.

Jesus

See that. Jesus was pro gun. He was obviously a Republican.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bB2Uwp6pxhA]YouTube - Colt Peacemaker[/ame]

 

[RadiomanATL]

Jesus advocated for personal responsibility, submission to the authority of God and for moral restraint.

He was a conservative.

He argued against statism...

Well, that throws the idea that he was a liberal out the window...

 

[logical4u]

Except Jesus is just a story. Like Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter. He sounds like more of a liberal though. He definitely rode a mule and not an elephant. He was also a carpenter. It's hard to say though because the story doesn't include much about his political ideologies. I'm sure he would have supported health care reform though.

Try reading the gospels. You sound out of your element...He did not ride a "mule".

 

[logical4u]

She's right. They're classical liberals. Not the modern Fabian socialistic statists that call themselves "liberal" today.

Hence the problem with "re-definig" words. Those guys would be outraged at what "liberalism" has "become" (just another tricked group by 'elitist' socialist).

 

[logical4u]

Jesus was a Liberal

The Romans who crucified him were Republicans

Rebiublicans are not the ones calling their leader 'a god'.

 

[logical4u]

The reason it's difficult to name "conservatives" that excel is understandable. Conservatives are about maintaining the status quo. About keeping things safe, unchanging, secure. They look back. Static is NOT really a direction. This is the reason conservatives have a difficult time explaining what "direction" they want to take the country. No one really likes "Back". Unless it starts off with "Baby got".

Conservatives have to have done SOMETHING for this country...

Why else would we keep them around?

No one said they haven't contributed. They breed. They make new bodies for cannon fodder. They do manual labor. They give us a market for beer. And they are endlessly entertaining.

You just have to keep an eye on them because they are also violent and dangerous to certain minorities and susceptible to inflammatory rhetoric.

My, you sound like a bigot.

 

[logical4u]

All the founding fathers were quite liberal for their day. The torries were loyal to the crown and were the Conservatives of the late 1700s. You don't get more liberal than equal voting rights and one man one vote

Yes, that is a lot different from ACORN (protecting the vote) by registering the same person numerous times.

 

[logical4u]

Jesus was conservative.

Tell that to the pharisees and Saducees- or thr Romans of the timr

If you "comprehend" the gospels...the Pharisees and Saducees were threatened with the authority Yeshua used in speaking. He put together prophesies from the OT to demonstrate his point. The Pharisees and Saducees used the 'liberal' playbook: if you can't use logic against a sound idea, destroy the person (and they 'thought' they did).

 

[logical4u]

Jesus advocated for personal responsibility, submission to the authority of God and for moral restraint.

He was a conservative.

He argued against statism, preached socialist ideas, never worked, redistributed wealth, railed against the wealthy, bucked against the religious authority, cast aside the laws and morals of the time in favor of his own...

Would you be willing to list those 'socialist ideas'?

He did work, he was raised to be a carpenter.

He did not go against the authority of G*d. He went against the authority of man (something the libs believe in, strongly).

He said He came to 'fullfill' the law. Can you demonstrate the laws He 'cast' aside?

Maybe, you read all about Yeshua on Wickapedia, but chose never to comprehend the gospels, you might want to go back and read them (with an 'open' mind).

 

[midcan5]

"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." Gandhi

Imagine for a moment if the Golden Rule were applied to life and politics today. Instead of divisive nonsense, they would all be working to make healthcare for all a reality.


"Think about it: A conservative Christian is a contradiction in terms. Christ wasn't a conservative. He fed the hungry simply because they were hungry. He didn't require that they go to work first. He healed the sick, simply because they were sick. He didn't push them into an insurance company, or let the drug companies gouge them on prices. Jesus was a liberal; Herod was the conservative." Rev. Jesse Jackson

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forgot to add:

The early liberals were John Locke, Montesquieu, John Stewart Mill, and James Madison.
A few contemporary liberals are, John Rawls, Isaiah Berlin, Bernard Williams, Ronald Dworkin, Jeremy Waldron - my favorites today.

"Liberals demand that the social order should in principle be capable of explaining itself at the tribunal of each person's understanding." Jeremy Waldron

 

[☭proletarian☭]

Jesus advocated for personal responsibility, submission to the authority of God and for moral restraint.

He was a conservative.

He argued against statism...

Well, that throws the idea that he was a liberal out the window...

Thanks for proving you don't know what Liberalism is. Locke laughs at you from the grave.

 

[RadiomanATL]

He argued against statism...

Well, that throws the idea that he was a liberal out the window...

Thanks for proving you don't know what Liberalism is. Locke laughs at you from the grave.

Thanks for proving you don't know what a joke is Prole

And Locke wouldn't recognize that the current crop of self-styled "liberals", are in fact liberals. I think his thoughts on property ownership are anathema to many of the current liberals in office.

It gets back to the definition of liberalism. Which half of the jokers here, or in office and the media, refuse to get nailed down on.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

Except Jesus is just a story. Like Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter. He sounds like more of a liberal though. He definitely rode a mule and not an elephant. He was also a carpenter. It's hard to say though because the story doesn't include much about his political ideologies. I'm sure he would have supported health care reform though.

Try reading the gospels. You sound out of your element...He did not ride a "mule".

It was a stolen donkey

or two

When they had come near Jerusalem and had reached Bethphage, at the Mount of Olives, Jesus sent two disciples, saying to them, ‘Go into the village ahead of you, and immediately you will find a donkey tied, and a colt with her; untie them and bring them to me. If anyone says anything to you, just say this, “The Lord needs them.” And he will send them immediately.’ This took place to fulfil what had been spoken through the prophet, saying, ‘Tell the daughter of Zion, Look your king is coming to you, humble, and mounted on a donkey, and on a colt, the foal of a donkey.’ The disciples went and did as Jesus had directed them; they brought the donkey and the colt, and put their clothes on them, and he sat on them.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

Jesus advocated for personal responsibility, submission to the authority of God and for moral restraint.

He was a conservative.

He argued against statism, preached socialist ideas, never worked, redistributed wealth, railed against the wealthy, bucked against the religious authority, cast aside the laws and morals of the time in favor of his own...

Would you be willing to list those 'socialist ideas'?[/qoute]
A Biblical Basis for Liberal Politics

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He did work, he was raised to be a carpenter.

He became a wanderer living off the goodwill of others. He and his followers carried no money

He said He came to 'fullfill' the law. Can you demonstrate the laws He 'cast' aside?

large swaths of the OT