What does "Fascism" mean to you?

[MisterBeale]

Years ago, there was a thread where members did the political compass test and posted their results. I've been looking for it but can't find it yet.

If you do a search with the key word of the actual site used, "politicalcompass.org" you can find both threads.

The Political Compass

A typology of political opinions plotted on 2 dimensions: economic and social.

www.politicalcompass.org

Politicalcompass.org

Answer the questions at The Political Compass

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Political Degree of USMB Members.

Your views call roughly the same amount of government with just a bit more liberty than we currently have in the United States today. Your views are probably best served by a nearly equal mix of Democrats and Republicans in the legislatures, as long as you choose the correct Democrats and...

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[MisterBeale]

You were apparently inspired by the wrong ideology. Nationalism is not a bad word unless you turn it into a bad word. It's obvious that the left wing enforced the modern version of fascism during Covid. The power of the current administration and the administration's partnership with a fascist media should scare you more than the vague memories of a liberal education.

Bullshit.

Patriotism is the good thing, nationalism is toxic.

 

[lennypartiv]

Bullshit.

Patriotism is the good thing, nationalism is toxic.

Christian nationalism is a good thing. We were founded as a Christian nation.

 

[initforme]

Christian nationalism is a good thing. We were founded as a Christian nation.

Quite the trolling expedition...

 

[dudmuck]

You were apparently inspired by the wrong ideology. Nationalism is not a bad word unless you turn it into a bad word. It's obvious that the left wing enforced the modern version of fascism during Covid. The power of the current administration and the administration's partnership with a fascist media should scare you more than the vague memories of a liberal education.

 

[ding]

State control is a monarchy or dictatorship, which is very right wing.

Incorrect. Every atheistic communist nation of the 20th century were extreme left wing. The socialist party of Germany and the fascist regime of Italy had far left wing policies.

 

[Captain Caveman]

If you do a search with the key word of the actual site used, "politicalcompass.org" you can find both threads.

The Political Compass

A typology of political opinions plotted on 2 dimensions: economic and social.

www.politicalcompass.org

Politicalcompass.org

Answer the questions at The Political Compass

www.usmessageboard.com

Political Degree of USMB Members.

Your views call roughly the same amount of government with just a bit more liberty than we currently have in the United States today. Your views are probably best served by a nearly equal mix of Democrats and Republicans in the legislatures, as long as you choose the correct Democrats and...

www.usmessageboard.com

Thanks, but that's just a tad too far back. I was looking to see where I posted a pic of mine, it was central. I initially tried the search words you used but no joy, I must have spelt them wrong or summit.

 

[Red Front]

Incorrect. Every atheistic communist nation of the 20th century were extreme left wing. The socialist party of Germany and the fascist regime of Italy had far left wing policies.

Having similar policies to Marxists doesn't make it an "atheist government". All governments in the Western world today are secular or "atheistic". Hitler and Franco were theists, while Mussolini was an admitted atheist. All fascists aren't atheists, that's an absurd statement. One's view of God is irrelevant when it comes to fascism.

 

[ding]

Having similar policies to Marxists doesn't make it an "atheist government". All governments in the Western world today are secular or "atheistic". Hitler and Franco were theists, while Mussolini was an admitted atheist. All fascists aren't atheists, that's an absurd statement. One's view of God is irrelevant when it comes to fascism.

All communist nations were atheistic nations by law. All were far left wing ideologies which was the point of bringing them up in the first place.

 

[Jessica-stormlover]

It is a right wing political system that puts ones nation above all else, the majority race and customs above any other freedom. All centralized at the government level.

The military is central
Religion is forced down everyones throats

 

[Red Front]

All communist nations were atheistic nations by law. All were far left wing ideologies which was the point of bringing them up in the first place.

Hitler, Franco, and Mussolini weren't communists. Communism is a marketless, non-profit system of mass production, and none of the fascists adopted it. They hated communism and that's why Hitler invaded the USSR with four million troops. So your statements are just bonkers and stupid.

I'm a communist and I'm not an atheist, I'm an agnostic who leans towards theism. I know several communists personally who are theists. One can adopt communism and be a theist. Your claim that the primary motivator for establishing a communist society is atheism, is silly. The purpose of the communist state is to place all resources in the hands of the public. It eliminates socioeconomic classes and makes mass production a non-profit social endeavor to meet everyone's needs, rather than a private pursuit to accumulate capital (i.e. profits).

 

[ding]

Hitler, Franco, and Mussolini weren't communists. Communism is a marketless, non-profit system of mass production, and none of the fascists adopted it. They hated communism and that's why Hitler invaded the USSR with four million troops. So your statements are just bonkers and stupid.

I'm a communist and I'm not an atheist, I'm an agnostic who leans towards theism. I know several communists personally who are theists. One can adopt communism and be a theist. Your claim that the primary motivator for establishing a communist society is atheism, is silly. The purpose of the communist state is to place all resources in the hands of the public. It eliminates socioeconomic classes and makes mass production a non-profit social endeavor to meet everyone's needs, rather than a private pursuit to accumulate capital (i.e. profits).

The point I was addressing was dictators of the 20th century were left leaning, not right leaning.

 

[Red Front]

The point I was addressing was dictators of the 20th century were left leaning, not right leaning.

I agree with you that Hitler, Mussolini, and Franco did have left-leaning policies concerning economics, however, they had right-wing leaning conservative policies on social issues. Fascism is a mix of left and right ideals, it's not just leftist, or right-wing. Perhaps we can agree on that.

 

[ding]

they had right-wing leaning conservative policies on social issues

Such as?

 

[Kruska]

Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin and Mao all had representative and democratic governments

 

[Red Front]

The point I was addressing was dictators of the 20th century were left leaning, not right leaning.

They leaned in different directions on various policies and issues. Pinochet in Chile, was a fascist right-winger, but Sadam Hussein was a left-leaning dictator, on most issues. The political character of these 20th-century dictatorships wasn't as cut and dried as you're asserting. They were rarely purely left-wing or right-wing, but often a mixture of both.

 

[ding]

They leaned in different directions on various policies and issues. Pinochet in Chile, was a fascist right-winger, but Sadam Hussein was a left-leaning dictator, on most issues. The political character of these 20th-century dictatorships wasn't as cut and dried as you're asserting. They were rarely purely left-wing or right-wing, but often a mixture of both.

From a statistical standpoint I think it is.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

People voted for them, right?

 

[Kruska]

People voted for them, right?

Start to read up some history articles or even better BOOKS - instead of making a total fool out of yourself with ridiculous statements.
e.g. Mussolini

How Mussolini Seized Power in Italy—And Turned It Into a Fascist State | HISTORY

Mussolini, who coined the term fascism, crushed opposition with violence and projected an image of himself as a powerful, indispensable leader.

www.history.com

And when did Stalin or Mao ever conduct "free" national elections???

It's only FASCISTS who claim, that elections where supposedly stolen - upon losing "free" national elections. See your human scumbag and pathological fraudster, and his Fascist crowd in the USA.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Start to read up some history articles or even better BOOKS - instead of making a total fool out of yourself with ridiculous statements.
e.g. Mussolini

How Mussolini Seized Power in Italy—And Turned It Into a Fascist State | HISTORY

Mussolini, who coined the term fascism, crushed opposition with violence and projected an image of himself as a powerful, indispensable leader.

www.history.com

And when did Stalin or Mao ever conduct "free" national elections???

No one voted for Hitler? Stalin? Mao? Mussolini?

Are you sure?