More Christians are conservative meanwhile Christ was liberal...

[Taz]

It's self-delusion. I've been on this earth for a long time and have never had contact with "god". Not that I'm wouldn't be willing, it's just never happened. You're going to say that I have to go looking for god, or something like that, meaning that I really have to want to believe and then sort of self-hypnotize myself to some of the dumbest shit ever written.

Lol. Self delusion? Because I suggest you have to get off your butt and seek after knowledge about God instead of doing nothing and expecting it to be handed to you? Seriously??

How do you obtain any knowledge without working to understand it? Do you think you can just understand calculus without an effort? Biology? Physics? History?

And yet you expect to just be handed the mysteries of Eternity with no effort whatsoever.

The laws for obtaining knowledge and wisdom require effort on our part. If you think it's self delusion to educate yourself than you are seriously missing out on a lot of truth. And since the truth sets you free, you are in bondage. And you can only free yourself as quickly as you obtain knowledge. The truth God is the most fundamental of those truths because it will empower you to learn all others as well as teach you to empower your life.

Till then you are in darkness as are countless others. And you will remain so until you grasp the iron rod and walk into the light of the Lord. Eat the fruit of the tree of life. Choose light and not darkness. It's up to you.

So I have to study a bunch of stuff written by men to find God. You do realize that that makes no sense, it's like saying that to know whether a tree is real or not, you can't touch it to see, but rather have to study some random book to find out if the tree is real or not.

Like I said, to learn something you need to seek it out and think it through. The fact that you refuse to do so makes you ignorant. While you pretend it makes you an expert.

There isn't a single person who becomes an expert on any topic without working to become so. Why are you pretending to be exempt from this natural law?

What "natural law"? WTF is that?
I don't need to become an expert on trees to be able to tell if they're real or not. And I don't seem to need a book to threaten me with eternal fire if I don't tithe.

The natural laws of the universe which regulate everything. Science is based on it. All knowledge is.

And yet you will never learn a tree is real unless you put in the effort to observe and understand what it is.

I'm an expert on breathing without having studied it. I'm also really good at eating, walking, running, taking a dump, making girls cum... and I never read up on any of it!!!
To claim that science is based on something you made up yourself is pretty funny.
And I have yet to learn that a tree is real? Do you actually re-read what you write before you post it, because that's one of the dumbest things you've ever said.

 

[Taz]

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I'm curious, how do you know what Jesus of Nazareth believed 2,000 years ago?
Are you ASSuming someone else knew who wrote about him, yet never met him?
.

The same way the guy who posted this post knows about him.

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In other words, no one nowadays knows what Jesus of Nazareth believed about modern day political views, and anyone pretending to know what Jesus believed 2000 years ago is just that ... a pretender.
.

Why would anyone need to pretend to know what Jesus.thought when they can read His teachings and ask Him?

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Have you read ANYTHING that Jesus himself wrote?
Have you met or conversed with Jesus?
Do you see images and hear voices in your head about Jesus that you believe exist outside your brain?

The only "yes" answer you may have is to the 3rd question.
.

Yes to read. Yes to converse. No to the last.

Jesus was illiterate. Nothing in the bible was actually written by Jesus.
I have a friend whose brother said he regularly talked with Jesus, so my friend told him to stfu or they wouldn't let him out of the psych ward. True story.

 

[Taz]

C'mon, can't your invisible magician make cattle talk?

to what end?.......to impress mindless atheists?.....

I thought your bible magician friend could do anything?

but did you think he should do everything?......

He doesn't, he has his gofer Jesus.

He IS Jesus, child.....

Jesus was the son of god. Now you know. You fucking child.

 

[Avatar4321]

the cattle on a thousand hills proclaim the glory of the Lord.....because the cattle on hill #1001 are atheists......

So now you believe in talking cattle?

???.....ah, another point-misser.....no child, my statement was intended to demonstrate why it is foolish to take the Bible literally at every word........unfortunately, you seem to think its necessary even there.....

besides, which is more unbelievable.....talking cattle or rational atheists.....

C'mon, can't your invisible magician make cattle talk?

to what end?.......to impress mindless atheists?.....

I thought your bible magician friend could do anything?

Who has a magician friend?

 

[Avatar4321]

The same way the guy who posted this post knows about him.

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In other words, no one nowadays knows what Jesus of Nazareth believed about modern day political views, and anyone pretending to know what Jesus believed 2000 years ago is just that ... a pretender.
.

Why would anyone need to pretend to know what Jesus.thought when they can read His teachings and ask Him?

---
Have you read ANYTHING that Jesus himself wrote?
Have you met or conversed with Jesus?
Do you see images and hear voices in your head about Jesus that you believe exist outside your brain?

The only "yes" answer you may have is to the 3rd question.
.

Yes to read. Yes to converse. No to the last.

Jesus was illiterate. Nothing in the bible was actually written by Jesus.
I have a friend whose brother said he regularly talked with Jesus, so my friend told him to stfu or they wouldn't let him out of the psych ward. True story.

If Jesus was illiterate how did He read Isaiah at the pulpit in one of His first declarations at promising to be the Messiah?

As for nothing being written by Jesus, not true. In fact, a very important part was written by Him. Ten rules were written in stone tablets by His finger. We call them the ten commandments. They are the basis of western law.

Btw I believe your story. But I fail to see how your friends uncaring, ignorant, and rude behavior has any basis to do with our discussion on the truth.

 

[Avatar4321]

Lol. Self delusion? Because I suggest you have to get off your butt and seek after knowledge about God instead of doing nothing and expecting it to be handed to you? Seriously??

How do you obtain any knowledge without working to understand it? Do you think you can just understand calculus without an effort? Biology? Physics? History?

And yet you expect to just be handed the mysteries of Eternity with no effort whatsoever.

The laws for obtaining knowledge and wisdom require effort on our part. If you think it's self delusion to educate yourself than you are seriously missing out on a lot of truth. And since the truth sets you free, you are in bondage. And you can only free yourself as quickly as you obtain knowledge. The truth God is the most fundamental of those truths because it will empower you to learn all others as well as teach you to empower your life.

Till then you are in darkness as are countless others. And you will remain so until you grasp the iron rod and walk into the light of the Lord. Eat the fruit of the tree of life. Choose light and not darkness. It's up to you.

So I have to study a bunch of stuff written by men to find God. You do realize that that makes no sense, it's like saying that to know whether a tree is real or not, you can't touch it to see, but rather have to study some random book to find out if the tree is real or not.

Like I said, to learn something you need to seek it out and think it through. The fact that you refuse to do so makes you ignorant. While you pretend it makes you an expert.

There isn't a single person who becomes an expert on any topic without working to become so. Why are you pretending to be exempt from this natural law?

What "natural law"? WTF is that?
I don't need to become an expert on trees to be able to tell if they're real or not. And I don't seem to need a book to threaten me with eternal fire if I don't tithe.

The natural laws of the universe which regulate everything. Science is based on it. All knowledge is.

And yet you will never learn a tree is real unless you put in the effort to observe and understand what it is.

I'm an expert on breathing without having studied it. I'm also really good at eating, walking, running, taking a dump, making girls cum... and I never read up on any of it!!!
To claim that science is based on something you made up yourself is pretty funny.
And I have yet to learn that a tree is real? Do you actually re-read what you write before you post it, because that's one of the dumbest things you've ever said.

So science isn't based on observing the natural law of the universe? And you are an expert on things you've never worked at? Seems unlikely.

Let's take say one of your examples. Say breathing. You are lying if you say you've never worked at it. How do I know? Because you breath every second of every day. Otherwise you would be dead (natural law, not mine). And presuming you are the age you act, you have maybe 13 years experience breathing in and out every second of every day. The body has to work hard for that.

And that's assuming your claim to being an expert. Which is hardly true. I doubt you've seriously studied it. Some Buddhist for example study breathing in depth. Focused on mindfulness breathing. Do you even know what that is? Can you tell if your breathing is slightly influenced by sickness before other symptoms become apparent? Do you understand how air enters the lungs or why it works? Do you understand how oxygen is converted to CO2? Do you even know how to tell if you are breathing properly? Have you ever thought about it or do you just assume that since you are still alive you are breathing properly, efficiently, and understand it completely?

My guess is you've.never thought about more than superficially. And you think you are an EXPERT? Men can work all their lives at truly understanding and barely begin to pierce the veil of knowledge on a subject.

This is equally true with all your other subjects. Your presumption that the only effort one can do is reading is equally absurd. Reading just gives us the advantage of allowing ourselves a chance to learn from the personal experiences of others as well as our own.

 

[Avatar4321]

to what end?.......to impress mindless atheists?.....

I thought your bible magician friend could do anything?

but did you think he should do everything?......

He doesn't, he has his gofer Jesus.

He IS Jesus, child.....

Jesus was the son of god. Now you know. You fucking child.

And thus the scripture is fulfilled. Even those that disbelieve will confess who Jesus is.

 

[Taz]

gthjk,.

I thought your bible magician friend could do anything?

but did you think he should do everything?......

He doesn't, he has his gofer Jesus.

He IS Jesus, child.....

Jesus was the son of god. Now you know. You fucking child.

And thus the scripture is fulfilled. Even those that disbelieve will confess who Jesus is.

We're talking in PostModernPoop's world. Not in mine. I stand corrected. Thanks.

 

[Taz]

So I have to study a bunch of stuff written by men to find God. You do realize that that makes no sense, it's like saying that to know whether a tree is real or not, you can't touch it to see, but rather have to study some random book to find out if the tree is real or not.

Like I said, to learn something you need to seek it out and think it through. The fact that you refuse to do so makes you ignorant. While you pretend it makes you an expert.

There isn't a single person who becomes an expert on any topic without working to become so. Why are you pretending to be exempt from this natural law?

What "natural law"? WTF is that?
I don't need to become an expert on trees to be able to tell if they're real or not. And I don't seem to need a book to threaten me with eternal fire if I don't tithe.

The natural laws of the universe which regulate everything. Science is based on it. All knowledge is.

And yet you will never learn a tree is real unless you put in the effort to observe and understand what it is.

I'm an expert on breathing without having studied it. I'm also really good at eating, walking, running, taking a dump, making girls cum... and I never read up on any of it!!!
To claim that science is based on something you made up yourself is pretty funny.
And I have yet to learn that a tree is real? Do you actually re-read what you write before you post it, because that's one of the dumbest things you've ever said.

So science isn't based on observing the natural law of the universe? And you are an expert on things you've never worked at? Seems unlikely.

Let's take say one of your examples. Say breathing. You are lying if you say you've never worked at it. How do I know? Because you breath every second of every day. Otherwise you would be dead (natural law, not mine). And presuming you are the age you act, you have maybe 13 years experience breathing in and out every second of every day. The body has to work hard for that.

And that's assuming your claim to being an expert. Which is hardly true. I doubt you've seriously studied it. Some Buddhist for example study breathing in depth. Focused on mindfulness breathing. Do you even know what that is? Can you tell if your breathing is slightly influenced by sickness before other symptoms become apparent? Do you understand how air enters the lungs or why it works? Do you understand how oxygen is converted to CO2? Do you even know how to tell if you are breathing properly? Have you ever thought about it or do you just assume that since you are still alive you are breathing properly, efficiently, and understand it completely?

My guess is you've.never thought about more than superficially. And you think you are an EXPERT? Men can work all their lives at truly understanding and barely begin to pierce the veil of knowledge on a subject.

This is equally true with all your other subjects. Your presumption that the only effort one can do is reading is equally absurd. Reading just gives us the advantage of allowing ourselves a chance to learn from the personal experiences of others as well as our own.

Wow, so consistently wrong! Kudos! Breathing is a reflex, not something you have to work at or study, and you know what? I'm an expert at breathing. But thanks for trying, it's always interesting to see what you guys will come up next.
Reading is fine, sure you learn things from doing it. It's WHAT you read. You think that I need to read up before I can know if the tree outside my window is real or not. If I were you, I'd change books.

 

[Taz]

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In other words, no one nowadays knows what Jesus of Nazareth believed about modern day political views, and anyone pretending to know what Jesus believed 2000 years ago is just that ... a pretender.
.

Why would anyone need to pretend to know what Jesus.thought when they can read His teachings and ask Him?

---
Have you read ANYTHING that Jesus himself wrote?
Have you met or conversed with Jesus?
Do you see images and hear voices in your head about Jesus that you believe exist outside your brain?

The only "yes" answer you may have is to the 3rd question.
.

Yes to read. Yes to converse. No to the last.

Jesus was illiterate. Nothing in the bible was actually written by Jesus.
I have a friend whose brother said he regularly talked with Jesus, so my friend told him to stfu or they wouldn't let him out of the psych ward. True story.

If Jesus was illiterate how did He read Isaiah at the pulpit in one of His first declarations at promising to be the Messiah?

As for nothing being written by Jesus, not true. In fact, a very important part was written by Him. Ten rules were written in stone tablets by His finger. We call them the ten commandments. They are the basis of western law.

Btw I believe your story. But I fail to see how your friends uncaring, ignorant, and rude behavior has any basis to do with our discussion on the truth.

(In your world), Jesus didn't write the ten commandments, if anyone, it was Moses, and it took him 40 days to tap them out. If that story is even true. Thinking that it was the hand of some invisible magician is absurd. Show me some PROOF!
Ands there's no proof that Jesus read anything, it only says so in a book written by men several generations after the fact for their own personal reasons or more likely, gain.

 

[Taz]

So now you believe in talking cattle?

???.....ah, another point-misser.....no child, my statement was intended to demonstrate why it is foolish to take the Bible literally at every word........unfortunately, you seem to think its necessary even there.....

besides, which is more unbelievable.....talking cattle or rational atheists.....

C'mon, can't your invisible magician make cattle talk?

to what end?.......to impress mindless atheists?.....

I thought your bible magician friend could do anything?

Who has a magician friend?

You do. He made the world in 6 days, then needed a rest because he was pooped. Or had to poop. I forget which.

 

[PostmodernProph]

Jesus was the son of god. Now you know. You fucking child.

more things you don't know about Christianity?......

 

[PostmodernProph]

gthjk,.

but did you think he should do everything?......

He doesn't, he has his gofer Jesus.

He IS Jesus, child.....

Jesus was the son of god. Now you know. You fucking child.

And thus the scripture is fulfilled. Even those that disbelieve will confess who Jesus is.

We're talking in PostModernPoop's world. Not in mine. I stand corrected. Thanks.

I must have shaken your very foundation for you to have elevated this to personal insult.......

 

[Taz]

gthjk,.

He doesn't, he has his gofer Jesus.

He IS Jesus, child.....

Jesus was the son of god. Now you know. You fucking child.

And thus the scripture is fulfilled. Even those that disbelieve will confess who Jesus is.

We're talking in PostModernPoop's world. Not in mine. I stand corrected. Thanks.

I must have shaken your very foundation for you to have elevated this to personal insult.......

So insulting should be a one-way street? Um.... No.

 

[Taz]

Jesus was the son of god. Now you know. You fucking child.

more things you don't know about Christianity?......

Sorry, I forgot again that you can make up any meaning you want for what's in the Bibble.

 

[BreezeWood]

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In other words, no one nowadays knows what Jesus of Nazareth believed about modern day political views, and anyone pretending to know what Jesus believed 2000 years ago is just that ... a pretender.
.

Why would anyone need to pretend to know what Jesus.thought when they can read His teachings and ask Him?

---
Have you read ANYTHING that Jesus himself wrote?
Have you met or conversed with Jesus?
Do you see images and hear voices in your head about Jesus that you believe exist outside your brain?

The only "yes" answer you may have is to the 3rd question.
.

Yes to read. Yes to converse. No to the last.

Jesus was illiterate. Nothing in the bible was actually written by Jesus.
I have a friend whose brother said he regularly talked with Jesus, so my friend told him to stfu or they wouldn't let him out of the psych ward. True story.

If Jesus was illiterate how did He read Isaiah at the pulpit in one of His first declarations at promising to be the Messiah?

As for nothing being written by Jesus, not true. In fact, a very important part was written by Him. Ten rules were written in stone tablets by His finger. We call them the ten commandments. They are the basis of western law.

Btw I believe your story. But I fail to see how your friends uncaring, ignorant, and rude behavior has any basis to do with our discussion on the truth.

.

As for nothing being written by Jesus, not true. In fact, a very important part was written by Him. Ten rules were written in stone tablets by His finger. We call them the ten commandments. They are the basis of western law.

the story itself that a mortal, Moses destroyed the only physical proof of their religions foundation is itself without condemnation an admission to their Idolatry before the Almighty at the time of its inception.

correct, there can not be a rational christian proven by the rational laws of nature, the Garden Earth.

.

 

[PostmodernProph]

gthjk,.

He IS Jesus, child.....

Jesus was the son of god. Now you know. You fucking child.

And thus the scripture is fulfilled. Even those that disbelieve will confess who Jesus is.

We're talking in PostModernPoop's world. Not in mine. I stand corrected. Thanks.

I must have shaken your very foundation for you to have elevated this to personal insult.......

So insulting should be a one-way street? Um.... No.

did I call you TazPoop?.....

 

[PostmodernProph]

Jesus was the son of god. Now you know. You fucking child.

more things you don't know about Christianity?......

Sorry, I forgot again that you can make up any meaning you want for what's in the Bibble.

you think I made up the idea that Jesus was God incarnate?......I suppose I came up with the idea for the Holy Spirit as well......

 

[Taz]

Jesus was the son of god. Now you know. You fucking child.

more things you don't know about Christianity?......

Sorry, I forgot again that you can make up any meaning you want for what's in the Bibble.

you think I made up the idea that Jesus was God incarnate?......I suppose I came up with the idea for the Holy Spirit as well......

Well, you came up with God proofing the animals back and forth to the ark...
Anyways, so your god let himself be nailed to wood in a diaper?
Sounds about right for you.

 

[Taz]

gthjk,.

Jesus was the son of god. Now you know. You fucking child.

And thus the scripture is fulfilled. Even those that disbelieve will confess who Jesus is.

We're talking in PostModernPoop's world. Not in mine. I stand corrected. Thanks.

I must have shaken your very foundation for you to have elevated this to personal insult.......

So insulting should be a one-way street? Um.... No.

did I call you TazPoop?.....

You've called me child, ignorant... You fucking PostModernPieceofShit.