MI AG Schuette: Marriage is for regulating sexual relationships to make babies

[NYcarbineer]

What rights am I fine with others losing?
They have just as much a right to marry someone of the opposite sex as I do

If that were a legitimate argument, then laws against interracial marriage should have been upheld on the grounds that everyone had the same right...

...to marry someone of their own race.

Race has nothing to do with procreation. It is still a man and a woman.

If you guys are so concerned about 'government involvement and/or control' why not remove blood tests and allow people to marry their siblings, offspring, and/or parents?

If you're so concerned about same sex marriage, why don't you outlaw marriage altogether?

 

[hortysir]

Cool

No more tax breaks to fight over, no more EIC

I'm fine with that

 

[BDBoop]

You married? No more legal rights and protections for anything you or your wife might want to leave each other.

Or is that no more wife, either.

 

[hortysir]

You married? No more legal rights and protections for anything you or your wife might want to leave each other.

Or is that no more wife, either.

19 years, happily
I don't feel I have any special privileges

 

[Gadawg73]

Everyone know the only legitimate reason for marriage is gays getting government tax benefits.

And heterosexuals do not act in 1001 different ways come April 15th every year for tax benefits?
What fucking planet do you good folks live on?

 

[Gadawg73]

You married? No more legal rights and protections for anything you or your wife might want to leave each other.

Or is that no more wife, either.

19 years, happily
I don't feel I have any special privileges

Does not matter how you feel.
The law is set up that you do.

 

[Gadawg73]

I am all for ending the tax code and going Fair Tax.

 

[Seawytch]

Or extinction

But Seawytch, through the miracle of modern technology, has managed to procreate and extend her genetic line not once, but 5 times. Could you please explain how her sexuality and subsequent children in spite of said homosexuality will lead to the extinction of the human race?

I guess, maybe, with us all with some of that Obamacare we can all afford to have test tube babies

Infertility
(Data are for the U.S.)

• Number of women ages 15-44 with impaired fecundity (impaired ability to get pregnant or carry a baby to term): 6.7 million
• Percent of women ages 15-44 with impaired fecundity: 10.9%
• Number of married women ages 15-44 that are infertile (unable to get pregnant after at least 12 consecutive months of unprotected sex with husband): 1.5 million
• Percent of married women ages 15-44 that are infertile: 6.0%
• Number of women ages 15-44 who have ever used infertility services: 7.4 million

CDC Fast Facts

• 7.5% of all sexually experienced men younger than age 45 reported seeing a fertility doctor during their lifetime—this equals 3.3–4.7 million men. Of men who sought help, 18% were diagnosed with a male-related infertility problem, including sperm or semen problems (14%) and varicocele (6%).

Is infertility just a woman's problem?

Should all these people be denied civil marriage because of their inability to procreate without assistance?

 

[BDBoop]

You married? No more legal rights and protections for anything you or your wife might want to leave each other.

Or is that no more wife, either.

19 years, happily
I don't feel I have any special privileges

Whether or not you favor marriage as a social institution, there's no denying that it confers many rights, protections, and benefits -- both legal and practical. Some of these vary from state to state, but the list typically includes:
Tax Benefits
Filing joint income tax returns with the IRS and state taxing authorities.
Creating a "family partnership" under federal tax laws, which allows you to divide business income among family members.
Estate Planning Benefits
Inheriting a share of your spouse's estate.
Receiving an exemption from both estate taxes and gift taxes for all property you give or leave to your spouse.
Creating life estate trusts that are restricted to married couples, including QTIP trusts, QDOT trusts, and marital deduction trusts.
Obtaining priority if a conservator needs to be appointed for your spouse -- that is, someone to make financial and/or medical decisions on your spouse's behalf.
Government Benefits
Receiving Social Security, Medicare, and disability benefits for spouses.
Receiving veterans' and military benefits for spouses, such as those for education, medical care, or special loans.
Receiving public assistance benefits.
Employment Benefits
Obtaining insurance benefits through a spouse's employer.
Taking family leave to care for your spouse during an illness.
Receiving wages, workers' compensation, and retirement plan benefits for a deceased spouse.
Taking bereavement leave if your spouse or one of your spouse's close relatives dies.
Medical Benefits
Visiting your spouse in a hospital intensive care unit or during restricted visiting hours in other parts of a medical facility.
Making medical decisions for your spouse if he or she becomes incapacitated and unable to express wishes for treatment.
Death Benefits
Consenting to after-death examinations and procedures.
Making burial or other final arrangements.
Family Benefits
Filing for stepparent or joint adoption.
Applying for joint foster care rights.
Receiving equitable division of property if you divorce.
Receiving spousal or child support, child custody, and visitation if you divorce.
Housing Benefits
Living in neighborhoods zoned for "families only."
Automatically renewing leases signed by your spouse.
Consumer Benefits
Receiving family rates for health, homeowners', auto, and other types of insurance.
Receiving tuition discounts and permission to use school facilities.
Other consumer discounts and incentives offered only to married couples or families.
Other Legal Benefits and Protections
Suing a third person for wrongful death of your spouse and loss of consortium (loss of intimacy).
Suing a third person for offenses that interfere with the success of your marriage, such as alienation of affection and criminal conversation (these laws are available in only a few states).
Claiming the marital communications privilege, which means a court can't force you to disclose the contents of confidential communications between you and your spouse during your marriage.
Receiving crime victims' recovery benefits if your spouse is the victim of a crime.
Obtaining immigration and residency benefits for noncitizen spouse.
Visiting rights in jails and other places where visitors are restricted to immediate family.

Marriage Rights and Benefits | Nolo.com

 

[Seawytch]

You married? No more legal rights and protections for anything you or your wife might want to leave each other.

Or is that no more wife, either.

19 years, happily
I don't feel I have any special privileges

Well you should...it comes with over 1500 of them. Here are just a small sampling...

Tax Benefits

• Filing joint income tax returns with the IRS and state taxing authorities.
• Creating a "family partnership" under federal tax laws, which allows you to divide business income among family members.

Estate Planning Benefits

• Inheriting a share of your spouse's estate.
• Receiving an exemption from both estate taxes and gift taxes for all property you give or leave to your spouse.
• Creating life estate trusts that are restricted to married couples, including QTIP trusts, QDOT trusts, and marital deduction trusts.
• Obtaining priority if a conservator needs to be appointed for your spouse -- that is, someone to make financial and/or medical decisions on your spouse's behalf.

Government Benefits

• Receiving Social Security, Medicare, and disability benefits for spouses.
• Receiving veterans' and military benefits for spouses, such as those for education, medical care, or special loans.
• Receiving public assistance benefits.

Employment Benefits

• Obtaining insurance benefits through a spouse's employer.
• Taking family leave to care for your spouse during an illness.
• Receiving wages, workers' compensation, and retirement plan benefits for a deceased spouse.
• Taking bereavement leave if your spouse or one of your spouse's close relatives dies.

Medical Benefits

• Visiting your spouse in a hospital intensive care unit or during restricted visiting hours in other parts of a medical facility.
• Making medical decisions for your spouse if he or she becomes incapacitated and unable to express wishes for treatment.

Death Benefits

• Consenting to after-death examinations and procedures.
• Making burial or other final arrangements.

Many more at: Marriage Rights and Benefits

 

[Seawytch]

Jinx, Boop...you owe me a Coke