MD to drop out of Electoral College?

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What's happening in Maryland? On Tuesday, Maryland became the first state in the union to drop out of college. The electoral college, that is.

Maryland Governor Martin O'Malley signed a law that would award the state's electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote. As long as others agree to do the same. "Actually, Maryland will drop out only if a lot of other states do, too. Maryland's new law will go into effect only if enough states pass similar laws to total 270 electoral votes -- the number needed to elect a President," O'Malley said.

Dropping out of the electoral college - CNN
 
It's a movement in a whole lot of states at the moment. Basically, state's invoking their right to chose electorates by a method of their own choosing - in this case, by nationwide popular vote.
 
It's a movement in a whole lot of states at the moment. Basically, state's invoking their right to chose electorates by a method of their own choosing - in this case, by nationwide popular vote.

...and it unconstitutional
 
It's a movement in a whole lot of states at the moment. Basically, state's invoking their right to chose electorates by a method of their own choosing - in this case, by nationwide popular vote.

I understand the power of the state to choose it's electorates by whatever method...

To tie it to the winner of the national popular vote gives MD ZERO voice to be heard...

Idiotic move...
 
The problem with this is that it effectively disenfranchises the Maryland voters form the Presidential election. For example if 100% of the voters in Maryland voted for Obama and Romney won the National vote, then Maryland would vote for Romney, making all the Maryland voters votes worthless.
 
It's a movement in a whole lot of states at the moment. Basically, state's invoking their right to chose electorates by a method of their own choosing - in this case, by nationwide popular vote.

It would eliminate the electoral imbalance enjoyed by small-population states. You want your vote to count the most, move to Wyoming. Second choice, D.C.
 
What's happening in Maryland? On Tuesday, Maryland became the first state in the union to drop out of college. The electoral college, that is.

Maryland Governor Martin O'Malley signed a law that would award the state's electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote. As long as others agree to do the same. "Actually, Maryland will drop out only if a lot of other states do, too. Maryland's new law will go into effect only if enough states pass similar laws to total 270 electoral votes -- the number needed to elect a President," O'Malley said.

Dropping out of the electoral college - CNN

Translation. Maryland ain't done jack shit.
 
It would eliminate the electoral imbalance enjoyed by small-population states. You want your vote to count the most, move to Wyoming. Second choice, D.C.

It was designed that way purposely to give the smaller states a little more influence in the election so the people in those rural areas wouldn't be completely dominated by the urbanites in every national election.
 
What's happening in Maryland? On Tuesday, Maryland became the first state in the union to drop out of college. The electoral college, that is.

Maryland Governor Martin O'Malley signed a law that would award the state's electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote. As long as others agree to do the same. "Actually, Maryland will drop out only if a lot of other states do, too. Maryland's new law will go into effect only if enough states pass similar laws to total 270 electoral votes -- the number needed to elect a President," O'Malley said.

Dropping out of the electoral college - CNN

Wow. Winning an election by getting the most votes. How novel! :clap2:
 
What's happening in Maryland? On Tuesday, Maryland became the first state in the union to drop out of college. The electoral college, that is.

Maryland Governor Martin O'Malley signed a law that would award the state's electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote. As long as others agree to do the same. "Actually, Maryland will drop out only if a lot of other states do, too. Maryland's new law will go into effect only if enough states pass similar laws to total 270 electoral votes -- the number needed to elect a President," O'Malley said.

Dropping out of the electoral college - CNN

Wow. Winning an election by getting the most votes. How novel! :clap2:

That's how it is now.
 
What's happening in Maryland? On Tuesday, Maryland became the first state in the union to drop out of college. The electoral college, that is.

Maryland Governor Martin O'Malley signed a law that would award the state's electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote. As long as others agree to do the same. "Actually, Maryland will drop out only if a lot of other states do, too. Maryland's new law will go into effect only if enough states pass similar laws to total 270 electoral votes -- the number needed to elect a President," O'Malley said.

Dropping out of the electoral college - CNN

Wow. Winning an election by getting the most votes. How novel! :clap2:

Idiot...

Has NOTHING to do with how the state votes, according to the proposal... If you could comprehend, you might catch that

And there is good reason, and it has been explained many times, why we have differing ways for obtaining our government officals in each branch of the government... it is a GOOD thing that not all offices are chosen by direct popular vote elections
 
What's happening in Maryland? On Tuesday, Maryland became the first state in the union to drop out of college. The electoral college, that is.

Maryland Governor Martin O'Malley signed a law that would award the state's electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote. As long as others agree to do the same. "Actually, Maryland will drop out only if a lot of other states do, too. Maryland's new law will go into effect only if enough states pass similar laws to total 270 electoral votes -- the number needed to elect a President," O'Malley said.

Dropping out of the electoral college - CNN

Wow. Winning an election by getting the most votes. How novel! :clap2:

Idiot...

Has NOTHING to do with how the state votes, according to the proposal... If you could comprehend, you might catch that

And there is good reason, and it has been explained many times, why we have differing ways for obtaining our government officals in each branch of the government... it is a GOOD thing that not all offices are chosen by direct popular vote elections

That "good" reason would be..that the majority of people in this country are not the conservative corporate zombies you think they are..

The Electoral College is antiquated and designed to keep white landed gentry in power.

Simple as that.
 
It's a movement in a whole lot of states at the moment. Basically, state's invoking their right to chose electorates by a method of their own choosing - in this case, by nationwide popular vote.

I understand the power of the state to choose it's electorates by whatever method...

To tie it to the winner of the national popular vote gives MD ZERO voice to be heard...

Idiotic move...

Not to worry. They'll change it back when a Conservative wins the popular vote and their electors would decide the winner.
 
It would eliminate the electoral imbalance enjoyed by small-population states. You want your vote to count the most, move to Wyoming. Second choice, D.C.

It was designed that way purposely to give the smaller states a little more influence in the election so the people in those rural areas wouldn't be completely dominated by the urbanites in every national election.

(I thought I fixed your avatar for you)
 
We've been moving away from identification with states and towards identification with America for a long time. A lot of the provisions in the Constitution protecting small states from domination by large ones are obsolete for that reason, although I don't expect them to be struck down anytime soon.

California has a similar law in effect now. I was leery of it when I first heard about it, but then I realized that it would hardly ever make a practical difference. The winner of the national popular vote is almost always the EC winner, too. In fact, I can only think of twice that it's been otherwise since most states began choosing electors by popular vote: 1888 and 2000.

In 2000, if those laws had been in effect, both California and Maryland would have given their EC votes to the winner of the nationwide popular vote, Al Gore -- which they did anyway. It would have made no difference. The only time it would make a difference is if our state votes for the loser of the nationwide vote, AND that loser wins in the EC. This can only happen if the election is razor-close, as 2000 was, and the argument is that the winner of the nationwide popular vote SHOULD win the election, so it's the right thing to do even so.
 

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