Mass shootings now ho hum.....

Moron.....for you to be right, this wouldn't have been the case...you dumb ass...

Over the last 26 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 18.6 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%


Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
The anti-gun hypothesis and argument.....


More Guns = More Gun crime regardless of any other factors.

Actual Result:

In the U.S....as more Americans own and carry guns over the last 26 years, gun murder down 49%, gun crime down 75%, violent crime down 72%

The result: Exact opposite of theory of anti-gunners....


In Science when you have a theory, when that theory is tested....and the exact opposite result happens...that means your theory is wrong. That is science....not left wing wishful thinking.



Whatever the crime rate does......as more Americans owned more guns the crime rate did not go up....so again...



Britain...
More Guns = More Gun Crime
Britain had access to guns before they banned them.....they had low gun crime, low gun murder.
They banned guns, the gun murder rate spiked for 10 years then returned to the same level...
Your Theory again....
More guns = More Gun Crime
Guns Banned creates no change? That means banning guns for law abiding gun owners had no effect on gun crime.
When your theory states one thing, and you implement your theory, and nothing changes....in science, that means your theory is wrong...
-------


Maine tops ‘safest states’ rankings four years after removing major gun restriction

When Maine passed a “Constitutional Carry” law allowing Maine residents to carry a concealed firearm without any special permit in 2015, opponents of the law forecast a dangerous future for the state. They said the new law would hurt public safety and put Maine kids at risk.



One state representative who opposed the bill went so far as to say it would give Mainers a reason to be afraid every time they went out in public or to work.

Another state representative suggested the law would lead to violent criminals with recent arrests and convictions legally carrying handguns.


-----

Now four years later, Maine has been named the safest state in the nation according to US News and World Report’s public safety rankings, which measures the fifty states based on crime data.



Ranking as the top safest state for violent crime and fourth for property crime, Maine edges out another New England state, Vermont, for the top spot. Of note, Vermont also is a “Constitutional Carry” state. New Hampshire ranks third in the national rankings, giving New England all three of the top spots in the nation.

In 2018, Maine was edged out by Vermont in the same “safest states” ranking, but declared the best state overall in the broader “Crime and Corrections” category.

In 2017, using a different methodology, Maine was ranked second among the fifty states in the “Crime and Corrections” category and also second in the categories used to rank the “safest states.”

The U.S. News and World Report “Best States” rankings are built in partnership with McKinsey & Company, a firm that works closely with state leaders around the nation.

Maine has also ranked at the top of other state rankings. WalletHub.com recently ranked Maine second in “Personal and Residential Safety” among the fifty states, and third overall.
You know...we don't care anymore. Why are you so shrill...you won. Mass shootings are just normal in this country now.


Moron...total number of mass public shootings in 2018...12. Total killed...93.

Number of people in the country...over 320 million.....

Number of people killed riding bicycles....324.

Number of people killed in car accidents...over 38,000.


Do you see why your post is really, really stupid?
No one cares anymore. You gun lovers won. Can't you see? The whole point of this thread is that.


We haven't won because our goal is to reduce violent gun crime in the U.S......and that won't happen until the democrat party stops releasing violent gun offenders from jail and prison.

The majority of our gun crime and gun murder is committed by repeat, violent felons. These criminals are constantly being released over and over again in a revolving door policy by democrat party judges, prosecutors and politicians. Until we find a way to make the democrat party stop releasing these gun criminals, our job is not done.

Why don't you show the class what kind of "repeat violent offenses" the perps in the two shootings from the OP had in their past, Wimpy.


And more.....

Public Health Pot Shots

this article goes at kellerman extensively and his crap research.....and here is some work on who actually kills people...




These and other studies funded by the CDC focus on the presence or absence of guns, rather than the characteristics of the people who use them. Indeed, the CDC's Rosenberg claims in the journalEducational Horizons that murderers are "ourselves--ordinary citizens, professionals, even health care workers": people who kill only because a gun happens to be available. Yet if there is one fact that has been incontestably established by homicide studies, it's that murderers are not ordinary gun owners but extreme aberrants whose life histories include drug abuse, serious accidents, felonies, and irrational violence.



Unlike "ourselves," roughly 90 percent of adult murderers have significant criminal records, averaging an adult criminal career of six or more years with four major felonies.

Access to juvenile records would almost certainly show that the criminal careers of murderers stretch back into their adolescence. In Murder in America (1994), the criminologists Ronald W. Holmes and Stephen T. Holmes report that murderers generally "have histories of committing personal violence in childhood, against other children, siblings, and small animals." Murderers who don't have criminal records usually have histories of psychiatric treatment or domestic violence that did not lead to arrest.

Contrary to the impression fostered by Rosenberg and other opponents of gun ownership, the term "acquaintance homicide" does not mean killings that stem from ordinary family or neighborhood arguments. Typical acquaintance homicides include: an abusive man eventually killing a woman he has repeatedly assaulted; a drug user killing a dealer (or vice versa) in a robbery attempt; and gang members, drug dealers, and other criminals killing each other for reasons of economic rivalry or personal pique.



According to a 1993 article in the Journal of Trauma, 80 percent of murders in Washington, D.C., are related to the drug trade, while "84% of [Philadelphia murder] victims in 1990 had antemortem drug use or criminal history."

A 1994 article in The New England Journal of Medicinereported that 71 percent of Los Angeles children and adolescents injured in drive-by shootings "were documented members of violent street gangs." And University of North Carolina-Charlotte criminal justice scholars Richard Lumb and Paul C. Friday report that 71 percent of adult gunshot wound victims in Charlotte have criminal records.



-------As the English gun control analyst Colin Greenwood has noted, in any society there are always enough guns available, legally or illegally, to arm the violent. The true determinant of violence is the number of violent people, not the availability of a particular weapon. Guns contribute to murder in the trivial sense that they help violent people kill. But owning guns does not turn responsible, law-abiding people into killers. If the general availability of guns were as important a factor in violence as the CDC implies, the vast increase in firearm ownership during the past two decades should have led to a vast increase in homicide. The CDC suggested just that in a 1989 report to Congress, where it asserted that "ince the early 1970s the year-to-year fluctuations in firearm availability has [sic] paralleled the numbers of homicides."

 
Moron.....for you to be right, this wouldn't have been the case...you dumb ass...

Over the last 26 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 18.6 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%


Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
The anti-gun hypothesis and argument.....


More Guns = More Gun crime regardless of any other factors.

Actual Result:

In the U.S....as more Americans own and carry guns over the last 26 years, gun murder down 49%, gun crime down 75%, violent crime down 72%

The result: Exact opposite of theory of anti-gunners....


In Science when you have a theory, when that theory is tested....and the exact opposite result happens...that means your theory is wrong. That is science....not left wing wishful thinking.



Whatever the crime rate does......as more Americans owned more guns the crime rate did not go up....so again...



Britain...
More Guns = More Gun Crime
Britain had access to guns before they banned them.....they had low gun crime, low gun murder.
They banned guns, the gun murder rate spiked for 10 years then returned to the same level...
Your Theory again....
More guns = More Gun Crime
Guns Banned creates no change? That means banning guns for law abiding gun owners had no effect on gun crime.
When your theory states one thing, and you implement your theory, and nothing changes....in science, that means your theory is wrong...
-------


Maine tops ‘safest states’ rankings four years after removing major gun restriction

When Maine passed a “Constitutional Carry” law allowing Maine residents to carry a concealed firearm without any special permit in 2015, opponents of the law forecast a dangerous future for the state. They said the new law would hurt public safety and put Maine kids at risk.



One state representative who opposed the bill went so far as to say it would give Mainers a reason to be afraid every time they went out in public or to work.

Another state representative suggested the law would lead to violent criminals with recent arrests and convictions legally carrying handguns.


-----

Now four years later, Maine has been named the safest state in the nation according to US News and World Report’s public safety rankings, which measures the fifty states based on crime data.



Ranking as the top safest state for violent crime and fourth for property crime, Maine edges out another New England state, Vermont, for the top spot. Of note, Vermont also is a “Constitutional Carry” state. New Hampshire ranks third in the national rankings, giving New England all three of the top spots in the nation.

In 2018, Maine was edged out by Vermont in the same “safest states” ranking, but declared the best state overall in the broader “Crime and Corrections” category.

In 2017, using a different methodology, Maine was ranked second among the fifty states in the “Crime and Corrections” category and also second in the categories used to rank the “safest states.”

The U.S. News and World Report “Best States” rankings are built in partnership with McKinsey & Company, a firm that works closely with state leaders around the nation.

Maine has also ranked at the top of other state rankings. WalletHub.com recently ranked Maine second in “Personal and Residential Safety” among the fifty states, and third overall.
You know...we don't care anymore. Why are you so shrill...you won. Mass shootings are just normal in this country now.


Moron...total number of mass public shootings in 2018...12. Total killed...93.

Number of people in the country...over 320 million.....

Number of people killed riding bicycles....324.

Number of people killed in car accidents...over 38,000.


Do you see why your post is really, really stupid?
No one cares anymore. You gun lovers won. Can't you see? The whole point of this thread is that.


We haven't won because our goal is to reduce violent gun crime in the U.S......and that won't happen until the democrat party stops releasing violent gun offenders from jail and prison.

The majority of our gun crime and gun murder is committed by repeat, violent felons. These criminals are constantly being released over and over again in a revolving door policy by democrat party judges, prosecutors and politicians. Until we find a way to make the democrat party stop releasing these gun criminals, our job is not done.

Why don't you show the class what kind of "repeat violent offenses" the perps in the two shootings from the OP had in their past, Wimpy.


For the class....more research....

http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf

I. VIOLENCE: THE DECISIVENESS OF SOCIAL FACTORS
One reason the extent of gun ownership in a society does not spur the murder rate is that murderers are not spread evenly throughout the population. Analysis of perpetrator studies shows that violent criminals—especially murderers—“almost uniformly have a long history of involvement in criminal behav‐ ior.”37 So it would not appreciably raise violence if all law‐ abiding, responsible people had firearms because they are not the ones who rape, rob, or murder.38 By the same token, violent crime would not fall if guns were totally banned to civilians. As the respective examples of Luxembourg and Russia suggest,39 individuals who commit violent crimes will either find guns despite severe controls or will find other weapons to use. 40
--------------------------



III. DO ORDINARY PEOPLE MURDER?

The “more guns equal more death” mantra seems plausible only when viewed through the rubric that murders mostly in‐ volve ordinary people who kill because they have access to a firearm when they get angry. If this were true, murder might well increase where people have ready access to firearms, but the available data provides no such correlation. Nations and


areas with more guns per capita do not have higher murder rates than those with fewer guns per capita.53

Nevertheless, critics of gun ownership often argue that a “gun in the closet to protect against burglars will most likely be used to shoot a spouse in a moment of rage . . . . The problem is you and me—law‐abiding folks;”54 that banning handgun posses‐ sion only for those with criminal records will “fail to protect us from the most likely source of handgun murder: ordinary citi‐ zens;”55 that “most gun‐related homicides . . . are the result of impulsive actions taken by individuals who have little or no criminal background or who are known to the victims;”56 that “the majority of firearm homicide[s occur] . . . not as the result of criminal activity, but because of arguments between people who know each other;”57 that each year there are thousands of gun murders “by law‐abiding citizens who might have stayed law‐abiding if they had not possessed firearms.”58

These comments appear to rest on no evidence and actually con‐ tradict facts that have so uniformly been established by homicide studies dating back to the 1890s that they have become “crimino‐ logical axioms.”59 Insofar as studies focus on perpetrators, they show that neither a majority, nor many, nor virtually any murder‐ ers are ordinary “law‐abiding citizens.”60

Rather, almost all mur‐ derers are extremely aberrant individuals with life histories of violence, psychopathology, substance abuse, and other dangerous behaviors. “The vast majority of persons involved in life‐ threatening violence have a long criminal record with many prior contacts with the justice system.”61 “Thus homicide—[whether] of a

stranger or [of] someone known to the offender—‘is usually part of a pattern of violence, engaged in by people who are known . . . as violence prone.’”62

Though only 15% of Americans over the age of 15 have arrest records,63 approximately 90 percent of “adult mur‐ derers have adult records, with an average adult criminal career [involving crimes committed as an adult rather than a child] of six or more years, including four major adult felony arrests.”64


These national statistics dovetail with data from local nineteenth and twentieth century studies. For example: victims as well as offenders [in 1950s and 1960s Philadelphia murders] . . . tended to be people with prior police records, usually for violent crimes such as as‐ sault.”65
“The great majority of both perpetrators and victims of [1970s Harlem] assaults and murders had previous [adult] arrests, probably over 80% or more.”66 Boston police and probation officers in the 1990s agreed that of those juvenile‐perpetrated murders where all the facts were known, virtually all were committed by gang members, though the killing was not necessarily gang‐ directed. 67 One example would be a gang member who stabs his girlfriend to death in a fit of anger.68 Regardless of their arrests for other crimes, 80% of 1997 Atlanta murder arrestees had at least one earlier drug offense with 70% having 3 or more prior drug of‐ fenses.69


A New York Times study of the 1,662 murders committed in that city in the years 2003–2005 found that “[m]ore than 90 percent of the killers had criminal records.”70 Baltimore police figures show that “92 percent of murder suspects had [prior] criminal records in 2006.”71 Several of the more recent homicide studies just reviewed


********
 
Isn't it odd that the poster, 2aguy is frantically posting a bunch of crap when he and his fellow gun cultists have already won here in America.....


Again.....we haven't "won" anything while morons like you are attacking the 2nd Amendment at the local, and state levels and while your democrat party judges are ignoring the 2nd Amendment, and Bill of Rights....

We haven't "won" anything as long as democrat party judges, prosecutors and politicians keep letting repeat, violent gun offenders out of jail and prison....the very criminals doing 99% of the gun murders and gun violence in the country....

Why do democrat politicians, judges and prosecutors keep letting violent gun offenders out of prison and jail? Over and over again...can you explain that?
 

Bin Laden wasn't a "religious" figure, IDIOT.

Once again ---- when "we" do a mass shooting or bombing, it's got nothing to do with religion; when "they" do it it's ALL ABOUT that. Having it both ways--- Priceless. Eric Rudolph, Tim McVeigh and Scott Roeder thanked your post.


Moron....they state they are doing because of their religion.....you idiot........
 
Moron.....for you to be right, this wouldn't have been the case...you dumb ass...

Over the last 26 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 18.6 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%


Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
The anti-gun hypothesis and argument.....


More Guns = More Gun crime regardless of any other factors.

Actual Result:

In the U.S....as more Americans own and carry guns over the last 26 years, gun murder down 49%, gun crime down 75%, violent crime down 72%

The result: Exact opposite of theory of anti-gunners....


In Science when you have a theory, when that theory is tested....and the exact opposite result happens...that means your theory is wrong. That is science....not left wing wishful thinking.



Whatever the crime rate does......as more Americans owned more guns the crime rate did not go up....so again...



Britain...
More Guns = More Gun Crime
Britain had access to guns before they banned them.....they had low gun crime, low gun murder.
They banned guns, the gun murder rate spiked for 10 years then returned to the same level...
Your Theory again....
More guns = More Gun Crime
Guns Banned creates no change? That means banning guns for law abiding gun owners had no effect on gun crime.
When your theory states one thing, and you implement your theory, and nothing changes....in science, that means your theory is wrong...
-------


Maine tops ‘safest states’ rankings four years after removing major gun restriction

When Maine passed a “Constitutional Carry” law allowing Maine residents to carry a concealed firearm without any special permit in 2015, opponents of the law forecast a dangerous future for the state. They said the new law would hurt public safety and put Maine kids at risk.



One state representative who opposed the bill went so far as to say it would give Mainers a reason to be afraid every time they went out in public or to work.

Another state representative suggested the law would lead to violent criminals with recent arrests and convictions legally carrying handguns.


-----

Now four years later, Maine has been named the safest state in the nation according to US News and World Report’s public safety rankings, which measures the fifty states based on crime data.



Ranking as the top safest state for violent crime and fourth for property crime, Maine edges out another New England state, Vermont, for the top spot. Of note, Vermont also is a “Constitutional Carry” state. New Hampshire ranks third in the national rankings, giving New England all three of the top spots in the nation.

In 2018, Maine was edged out by Vermont in the same “safest states” ranking, but declared the best state overall in the broader “Crime and Corrections” category.

In 2017, using a different methodology, Maine was ranked second among the fifty states in the “Crime and Corrections” category and also second in the categories used to rank the “safest states.”

The U.S. News and World Report “Best States” rankings are built in partnership with McKinsey & Company, a firm that works closely with state leaders around the nation.

Maine has also ranked at the top of other state rankings. WalletHub.com recently ranked Maine second in “Personal and Residential Safety” among the fifty states, and third overall.
You know...we don't care anymore. Why are you so shrill...you won. Mass shootings are just normal in this country now.


Moron...total number of mass public shootings in 2018...12. Total killed...93.

Number of people in the country...over 320 million.....

Number of people killed riding bicycles....324.

Number of people killed in car accidents...over 38,000.


Do you see why your post is really, really stupid?
No one cares anymore. You gun lovers won. Can't you see? The whole point of this thread is that.


We haven't won because our goal is to reduce violent gun crime in the U.S......and that won't happen until the democrat party stops releasing violent gun offenders from jail and prison.

The majority of our gun crime and gun murder is committed by repeat, violent felons. These criminals are constantly being released over and over again in a revolving door policy by democrat party judges, prosecutors and politicians. Until we find a way to make the democrat party stop releasing these gun criminals, our job is not done.

Why don't you show the class what kind of "repeat violent offenses" the perps in the two shootings from the OP had in their past, Wimpy.
------------------------------------------------ so much for the FOOLISHNESS called VETTING eh . Personally I think that there are many Americans that are happy the the Process called VETTING is foolishness . As a guess Pogo .
 

Bin Laden wasn't a "religious" figure, IDIOT.

Once again ---- when "we" do a mass shooting or bombing, it's got nothing to do with religion; when "they" do it it's ALL ABOUT that. Having it both ways--- Priceless. Eric Rudolph, Tim McVeigh and Scott Roeder thanked your post.


Moron....they state they are doing because of their religion.....you idiot........
------------------------------------------ and I think that 'islam' is famous for doing CONVERSIONS using the Sword .
 

Bin Laden wasn't a "religious" figure, IDIOT.

Once again ---- when "we" do a mass shooting or bombing, it's got nothing to do with religion; when "they" do it it's ALL ABOUT that. Having it both ways--- Priceless. Eric Rudolph, Tim McVeigh and Scott Roeder thanked your post.


Moron....they state they are doing because of their religion.....you idiot........
------------------------------------------ and I think that 'islam' is famous for doing CONVERSIONS using the Sword .


It is endlessly hilarious when left wing/democrat/socialist/fascists, try to protect islam......
 

Bin Laden wasn't a "religious" figure, IDIOT.

Once again ---- when "we" do a mass shooting or bombing, it's got nothing to do with religion; when "they" do it it's ALL ABOUT that. Having it both ways--- Priceless. Eric Rudolph, Tim McVeigh and Scott Roeder thanked your post.


Moron....they state they are doing because of their religion.....you idiot........
------------------------------------------ and I think that 'islam' is famous for doing CONVERSIONS using the Sword .

Of course you do. :itsok:
 

Bin Laden wasn't a "religious" figure, IDIOT.

Once again ---- when "we" do a mass shooting or bombing, it's got nothing to do with religion; when "they" do it it's ALL ABOUT that. Having it both ways--- Priceless. Eric Rudolph, Tim McVeigh and Scott Roeder thanked your post.


Moron....they state they are doing because of their religion.....you idiot........

Yep, so did Roeder. So did Rudolph. But that "doesn't count" right? Fucking hypo.
 
Yes......the shooter was a muslim terrorist......what about that is so hard for you left wing morons to understand..

What the fuck makes it so hard for you to then say Roeder and Rudolph were Christian terrorists?

Again, having it both ways --- Priceless.
 

Bin Laden wasn't a "religious" figure, IDIOT.

Once again ---- when "we" do a mass shooting or bombing, it's got nothing to do with religion; when "they" do it it's ALL ABOUT that. Having it both ways--- Priceless. Eric Rudolph, Tim McVeigh and Scott Roeder thanked your post.


Moron....they state they are doing because of their religion.....you idiot........

Yep, so did Roeder. So did Rudolph. But that "doesn't count" right? Fucking hypo.


So...again with the myth of the "Christian" killer....

Tell me, you dumb ass....where in the teachings of Jesus does it say go out and murder people....please....show us........

You can't claim to be a vegetarian and eat steak...you can't be a christian and do a mass public shooting.....you moron.
 
Yes......the shooter was a muslim terrorist......what about that is so hard for you left wing morons to understand..

What the fuck makes it so hard for you to then say Roeder and Rudolph were Christian terrorists?

Again, having it both ways --- Priceless.


Shit stain......Christians are condemned to Hell for murder........there is no commandment to commit murder in Christianity.

Murder in the name of spreading islam is accepted, condoned, and permitted....you moron...that is the difference......they are promised rewards in heaven for killing.....
 
Moron.....for you to be right, this wouldn't have been the case...you dumb ass...
------------------------------------------- doesn't matter as I ASSUME that ALL past events are held in Saudi records and may be events that are approved of by 'allah' so why would the events be reported Pogo .
Over the last 26 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 18.6 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%


Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
The anti-gun hypothesis and argument.....


More Guns = More Gun crime regardless of any other factors.

Actual Result:

In the U.S....as more Americans own and carry guns over the last 26 years, gun murder down 49%, gun crime down 75%, violent crime down 72%

The result: Exact opposite of theory of anti-gunners....


In Science when you have a theory, when that theory is tested....and the exact opposite result happens...that means your theory is wrong. That is science....not left wing wishful thinking.



Whatever the crime rate does......as more Americans owned more guns the crime rate did not go up....so again...



Britain...
More Guns = More Gun Crime
Britain had access to guns before they banned them.....they had low gun crime, low gun murder.
They banned guns, the gun murder rate spiked for 10 years then returned to the same level...
Your Theory again....
More guns = More Gun Crime
Guns Banned creates no change? That means banning guns for law abiding gun owners had no effect on gun crime.
When your theory states one thing, and you implement your theory, and nothing changes....in science, that means your theory is wrong...
-------


Maine tops ‘safest states’ rankings four years after removing major gun restriction

When Maine passed a “Constitutional Carry” law allowing Maine residents to carry a concealed firearm without any special permit in 2015, opponents of the law forecast a dangerous future for the state. They said the new law would hurt public safety and put Maine kids at risk.



One state representative who opposed the bill went so far as to say it would give Mainers a reason to be afraid every time they went out in public or to work.

Another state representative suggested the law would lead to violent criminals with recent arrests and convictions legally carrying handguns.


-----

Now four years later, Maine has been named the safest state in the nation according to US News and World Report’s public safety rankings, which measures the fifty states based on crime data.



Ranking as the top safest state for violent crime and fourth for property crime, Maine edges out another New England state, Vermont, for the top spot. Of note, Vermont also is a “Constitutional Carry” state. New Hampshire ranks third in the national rankings, giving New England all three of the top spots in the nation.

In 2018, Maine was edged out by Vermont in the same “safest states” ranking, but declared the best state overall in the broader “Crime and Corrections” category.

In 2017, using a different methodology, Maine was ranked second among the fifty states in the “Crime and Corrections” category and also second in the categories used to rank the “safest states.”

The U.S. News and World Report “Best States” rankings are built in partnership with McKinsey & Company, a firm that works closely with state leaders around the nation.

Maine has also ranked at the top of other state rankings. WalletHub.com recently ranked Maine second in “Personal and Residential Safety” among the fifty states, and third overall.
You know...we don't care anymore. Why are you so shrill...you won. Mass shootings are just normal in this country now.


Moron...total number of mass public shootings in 2018...12. Total killed...93.

Number of people in the country...over 320 million.....

Number of people killed riding bicycles....324.

Number of people killed in car accidents...over 38,000.


Do you see why your post is really, really stupid?
No one cares anymore. You gun lovers won. Can't you see? The whole point of this thread is that.


We haven't won because our goal is to reduce violent gun crime in the U.S......and that won't happen until the democrat party stops releasing violent gun offenders from jail and prison.

The majority of our gun crime and gun murder is committed by repeat, violent felons. These criminals are constantly being released over and over again in a revolving door policy by democrat party judges, prosecutors and politicians. Until we find a way to make the democrat party stop releasing these gun criminals, our job is not done.

Why don't you show the class what kind of "repeat violent offenses" the perps in the two shootings from the OP had in their past, Wimpy.
Isn't it odd that the poster, 2aguy is frantically posting a bunch of crap when he and his fellow gun cultists have already won here in America.....
------------------------------------------------------- anything that 2AGuy Posts is welcome and informative . You lefties can not be trusted Bode .
 

Bin Laden wasn't a "religious" figure, IDIOT.

Once again ---- when "we" do a mass shooting or bombing, it's got nothing to do with religion; when "they" do it it's ALL ABOUT that. Having it both ways--- Priceless. Eric Rudolph, Tim McVeigh and Scott Roeder thanked your post.


Moron....they state they are doing because of their religion.....you idiot........

Yep, so did Roeder. So did Rudolph. But that "doesn't count" right? Fucking hypo.


So...again with the myth of the "Christian" killer....

Tell me, you dumb ass....where in the teachings of Jesus does it say go out and murder people....please....show us........

You can't claim to be a vegetarian and eat steak...you can't be a christian and do a mass public shooting.....you moron.

Yes......the shooter was a muslim terrorist......what about that is so hard for you left wing morons to understand..

What the fuck makes it so hard for you to then say Roeder and Rudolph were Christian terrorists?

Again, having it both ways --- Priceless.


Shit stain......Christians are condemned to Hell for murder........there is no commandment to commit murder in Christianity.

Murder in the name of spreading islam is accepted, condoned, and permitted....you moron...that is the difference......they are promised rewards in heaven for killing.....

I knew I could count on you to confirm. Fuckin' hypo.

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best post in the thread ere the couple who chimed in a types , oh yeah , the AEAB that did the murders was a WHITE GUY . [it was BEST POST , IMO ]
 
you simply cannot expect white men to be responsible for their own behavior.

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Bin Laden wasn't a "religious" figure, IDIOT.

Once again ---- when "we" do a mass shooting or bombing, it's got nothing to do with religion; when "they" do it it's ALL ABOUT that. Having it both ways--- Priceless. Eric Rudolph, Tim McVeigh and Scott Roeder thanked your post.
Loves you some muzzie American killers, don't ya?
 
Isn't it odd that the poster, 2aguy is frantically posting a bunch of crap when he and his fellow gun cultists have already won here in America.....

2aguy is a one trick pony. He is abscessed with his guns, and can not talk about anything else. I stopped reading his posts years ago. I honestly think that he sleeps with them.
 

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