Liberals deconstructed

Veteran psychiatrist calls liberals mentally ill
Yep, no truer words have ever been spoken.
They're stark raving nutjobs!
PERIOD, end of story.

"When the modern liberal mind whines about imaginary victims, rages against imaginary villains and seeks above all else to run the lives of persons competent to run their own lives, the neurosis of the liberal mind becomes painfully obvious."

Oh man, that was soooo funny. Thank you.

Imaginary victems:

We want our country back.

Imaginary villains:

Fascists
Communists
Socialists
Marxists

Run the lives of others:

If gays marry, they will marry their dogs.
Feminists are ruining the country.
"Magical Creation" in public schools

I love it. Conservatives looked in the mirror and what they saw was so ugly, they just assumed they were looking at "Liberals". Oops.
 
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If calling for civil rights, women's suffrage, and child labor laws are signs of insanity, perhaps we need more crazy liberals
 
Wow! Seems that Dr. Rossiter might have picked the wrong career. Because physicians have to obtain an undergraduate degree prior to going to medical school, surely he understands the definition of a generalization. So ALL liberals are mentally ill? Writing a book saying that all conservatives are mentally ill would be just as ridiculous. That's just like saying that all patients with bipolar illness are schizophrenic as well.

I wouldn't publish something as outlandish as this as a physician.
 
Wow! Seems that Dr. Rossiter might have picked the wrong career. Because physicians have to obtain an undergraduate degree prior to going to medical school, surely he understands the definition of a generalization. So ALL liberals are mentally ill? Writing a book saying that all conservatives are mentally ill would be just as ridiculous. That's just like saying that all patients with bipolar illness are schizophrenic as well.

I wouldn't publish something as outlandish as this as a physician.

you only like doctors that want a public option
 
Wow! Seems that Dr. Rossiter might have picked the wrong career. Because physicians have to obtain an undergraduate degree prior to going to medical school, surely he understands the definition of a generalization. So ALL liberals are mentally ill? Writing a book saying that all conservatives are mentally ill would be just as ridiculous. That's just like saying that all patients with bipolar illness are schizophrenic as well.

I wouldn't publish something as outlandish as this as a physician.

you only like doctors that want a public option

HUH? Are you asking me, or telling me what I want? I'm for a competent physician who has his mind on his job. I don't care what he's for.
 
If calling for civil rights, women's suffrage, and child labor laws are signs of insanity, perhaps we need more crazy liberals
Civil rights?
You do mean the civil rights of an innocent unborn child being chopped up and summarily ripped from the womb?
Womens suffrage?
You do mean the suffering of a woman like Sarah Palin who had to go through having her children ripped to pieces by loony liberals like you, and in the liberal media.
Child labor laws?
You mean like the laws that protected that poor thirteen year old girl who was RAPED by your fellow loony LIBERAL Roman Polanski?
Yeah, you liberals are the epitomy of class and morals alright!
Fucking nutjobs is what you people are!
 
This is too funny, without liberals one wonders what the right wing republican conservative would think about? When in power they fail miserably, out of power they can only pout and whine, whine and pout. Too funny.

"Take Peter Wehner’s representative remarks about the book, published on Contentions, Commentary’s group blog. A former assistant to Karl Rove in the Bush White House, Wehner is a master of deploying the rhetorical trick that contemporary conservatives use to convince themselves that they’re always right. At bottom, it amounts to a high-minded version of the old Pee-Wee Herman taunt, “I know you are, but what am I?” There are countless examples. A handful of liberals stupidly describe conservatives as fascists, so Jonah Goldberg responds by writing several hundred pages about the threat of liberal fascism. (Get it?) Liberal Jews frequently congratulate themselves for their secularism, so Norman Podhoretz produces a book in which he claims that Jews treat liberalism as a religion. (Clever!) And Sam Tanenhaus defends a moderate version of conservatism against the ideological thinking that dominates the right and Wehner responds by saying that “Tanenhaus is precisely what he condemns in his book—an ideologue, a man of dogmatic fixity, a person of knee-jerk liberal reflexes.”"

The Death (and Life) Of Conservatism | The New Republic


http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MTUxYmQ5YWM4YzQ0ZjY3ZWQyOGRiNGE3ZDBiYjhjMWI=

What is a conservative? – Political Pass
 
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If calling for civil rights, women's suffrage, and child labor laws are signs of insanity, perhaps we need more crazy liberals
Civil rights?
You do mean the civil rights of an innocent unborn child being chopped up and summarily ripped from the womb?

:lol:

Actually, I was thinking about a woman only being half a person when giving testimony, slavery, and nightriding wit the Klan :lol:
Womens suffrage?
You do mean the suffering of a woman like Sarah Palin who had to go through having her children ripped to pieces by loony liberals like you, and in the liberal media.

Yes, exactly. Torn apart by social conservatives who attacked her for getting pregnant before getting married.
Child labor laws?
You mean like the laws that protected that poor thirteen year old girl who was RAPED by your fellow loony LIBERAL Roman Polanski?

Occupational Safety and Health Administration - OSHA HOME PAGE
Yeah, you liberals are the epitomy of class and morals alright!
Fucking nutjobs is what you people are!

A day in the life of Joe Conservative

Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards.
With his first swallow of water, he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to insure their safety and that they work as advertised.
All but $10 of his medications are paid for by his employer's medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance - now Joe gets it too.
He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained.
Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air.
He walks to the subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work. It saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.
Joe begins his workday. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards.
Joe's employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.
It's noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe's deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression.
Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime.
Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards.
He arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers' Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans. The house didn't have electricity until some big-government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification.
He is happy to see his father, who is now retired. His father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.
Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn't mention that the beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day. Joe agrees: "We don't need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have."


If you do not have skin cancer, and have ever stood outside without having a peeling sunburn within moments, thank the ozone layer, thank the ban on CFCs, and thank a liberal.


If you have not died in a heat wave, drought, hurricane, flood, wildfire, or other climate change disaster, and like the idea of your children and grandchildren not living in desert wastelands, thank a liberal.

If you have ever breathed clean air or drank clean water, thank a liberal.

If no woman you know has died or been maimed in a back-alley Abortion, thank a liberal.

If you have never been lynched, or had your children firebombed in a church, thank a liberal.

If you are glad we don't live in a right-wing dictatorship along the lines of what conservatives overtly and covertly created in Iran, Guatamala, Nicaragua, the Dominican Republic, the Congo, Chile, Brazil, El Salvador, the Phillipines, Indonesia and many others, thank a liberal.

If you have ever used Medicare, thank a liberal.

If you have not gotten cancer from radiation, thank the Nuclear test ban and thank a liberal.

If you have ever sat on a public seat, drank from a drinking fountain, stood on a bus, or done anything in public without worrying about being beaten up for being in the wrong section for your skin color, thank a liberal.

If you've ever driven on an interstate highway, thank a liberal.

If you grew up in a family of less than 12 kids, like the idea of being able to choose if you have 12 kids or not, if you don't live in an overpopulated third world slum, or just think birth control is a good idea, thank a liberal.

If your family benefited from the GI Bill of Rights, FHA Mortgages, and so forth, thank a liberal.

If you have ever bought anything from Europe, and are glad the Marshall plan kept it from remained a bombed-out shell or falling to communism or neo-fascism, thank a liberal.

If you are glad that the Nazis don't control half the world (conservatives opposed joining World War 2 until it was forced on them) thank a liberal.

If you have ever eaten food (agricultural subsidies), flicked on a light switch (rural electrification) or benefited from the Tennessee Valley Authority, thank a liberal.

If you ever drank a beer or a glass of wine without being thrown in jail, thank a liberal.

If you are not a land-owning white male, but have voted, thank a liberal.

If you have not died from tainted meat, been prescribed something useless or poisonous by a quack doctor, have not given your children cough syrup which turned out to have heroin as its secret ingredient, thank a liberal. (and Nixon)

If your workplace is safe and you are paid a living wage, including overtime; if you enjoy a 40-hour week and you are allowed to join a union to protect your rights without being lynched, thank a liberal.

If you've ever seen a national park, and it hadn't been strip mined and clearcut into a desert wasteland, thank a liberal.

If you have never suffered from an economy of massive deflation, and have never even heard of an economic phenomenon called a "panic", thank a liberal.

If your children go to school instead of working in coal mines, thank a liberal.

If you're a Native American and have not been killed or died in a concentration camp, or if you live near Native Americans and are not at war with them, thank a liberal.

If you have an industrial or high-tech job - or really, any job other than those available in a slave-powered cash crop economy (ie, a third world economy) thank a liberal.

If you're not a slave or "indentured servant" (white slave), don't think protection of slavery belongs in the constitution, if you've never been chained to a boat where half the passengers die, been whipped, had your family split up, been forced to "breed" with another slave you've never met, been raped by your boss, or killed for not being profitable, thank a liberal.

If you oppose political parties starting massive wars to destroy America, just because they lost the election, and killing hundreds of thousands of Americans in process - if you just don't have that much fanatical hatred of Lincoln's policy of to restricting slavery to states where it already existed, thank a liberal.

If you're part-Irish, Catholic, Jewish, or for that matter anything not Anglo-Saxon Protestant, and are allowed to live in America, and are not harassed and attacked for failing to be born Anglo-Saxon Protestant, or if you've ever bought or used anything built by a non-ASP American, thank a liberal.

If you kind of like freedom of speech, and don't want the state government to be able to censor you - (you think the 14th amendment is a good idea) - thank a liberal.

If you have ever bought or sold anything transported by the transcontinental railroad, or eaten food from a farm created by the railroad, thank a liberal.

If you think the US constitution is pretty cool, and have ever traveled too or done business with a country whose democracy was inspired by the American revolution, thank a liberal.

If you have not been drafted and used as cannon-fodder in some war caused by some petty insult between nobles, clan leaders, or other various overfed dictators, or suffered rape or looting in one of those countless wars, thank a liberal.

If you have not been tortured to death in a religious inquisition, thank a liberal.

If you don't have to walk though ankle-deep sewage in the streets (because sewers are big gummint), thank a liberal.

If you have ever done anything that is a religious or superstitious taboo (ie, done anything at all) without being stoned to death or cast out as a heretic, thank a liberal.

If you have never been raped, and then had the rapist escape punishment on the grounds that he marry you, thank a liberal.

If you are not a slave toiling to build a pyramid for some lazy dictator who's so spoiled he thinks he's god, and won't even see it until he's dead, thank a liberal.

If you have not been killed as a human sacrifice in the name of some god, thank a liberal.

In short, if you've ever enjoyed anything of the post-stone-age world, thank a liberal.

...And if not, become a conservative.

"Liberal policies made America the freest, wealthiest, most successful and most powerful nation in human history. Conservatism in power always threatens to undo that national progress, and is almost always frustrated by the innate decency and democratic instincts of the American people..." - Joe Conason
 
If calling for civil rights, women's suffrage, and child labor laws are signs of insanity, perhaps we need more crazy liberals
Civil rights?
You do mean the civil rights of an innocent unborn child being chopped up and summarily ripped from the womb?

:lol:

Actually, I was thinking about a woman only being half a person when giving testimony, slavery, and nightriding wit the Klan :lol:


Yes, exactly. Torn apart by social conservatives who attacked her for getting pregnant before getting married.
Child labor laws?
You mean like the laws that protected that poor thirteen year old girl who was RAPED by your fellow loony LIBERAL Roman Polanski?

Occupational Safety and Health Administration - OSHA HOME PAGE
Yeah, you liberals are the epitomy of class and morals alright!
Fucking nutjobs is what you people are!

A day in the life of Joe Conservative

Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards.
With his first swallow of water, he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to insure their safety and that they work as advertised.
All but $10 of his medications are paid for by his employer's medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance - now Joe gets it too.
He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained.
Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air.
He walks to the subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work. It saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.
Joe begins his workday. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards.
Joe's employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.
It's noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe's deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression.
Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime.
Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards.
He arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers' Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans. The house didn't have electricity until some big-government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification.
He is happy to see his father, who is now retired. His father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.
Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn't mention that the beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day. Joe agrees: "We don't need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have."


If you do not have skin cancer, and have ever stood outside without having a peeling sunburn within moments, thank the ozone layer, thank the ban on CFCs, and thank a liberal.


If you have not died in a heat wave, drought, hurricane, flood, wildfire, or other climate change disaster, and like the idea of your children and grandchildren not living in desert wastelands, thank a liberal.

If you have ever breathed clean air or drank clean water, thank a liberal.

If no woman you know has died or been maimed in a back-alley Abortion, thank a liberal.

If you have never been lynched, or had your children firebombed in a church, thank a liberal.

If you are glad we don't live in a right-wing dictatorship along the lines of what conservatives overtly and covertly created in Iran, Guatamala, Nicaragua, the Dominican Republic, the Congo, Chile, Brazil, El Salvador, the Phillipines, Indonesia and many others, thank a liberal.

If you have ever used Medicare, thank a liberal.

If you have not gotten cancer from radiation, thank the Nuclear test ban and thank a liberal.

If you have ever sat on a public seat, drank from a drinking fountain, stood on a bus, or done anything in public without worrying about being beaten up for being in the wrong section for your skin color, thank a liberal.

If you've ever driven on an interstate highway, thank a liberal.

If you grew up in a family of less than 12 kids, like the idea of being able to choose if you have 12 kids or not, if you don't live in an overpopulated third world slum, or just think birth control is a good idea, thank a liberal.

If your family benefited from the GI Bill of Rights, FHA Mortgages, and so forth, thank a liberal.

If you have ever bought anything from Europe, and are glad the Marshall plan kept it from remained a bombed-out shell or falling to communism or neo-fascism, thank a liberal.

If you are glad that the Nazis don't control half the world (conservatives opposed joining World War 2 until it was forced on them) thank a liberal.

If you have ever eaten food (agricultural subsidies), flicked on a light switch (rural electrification) or benefited from the Tennessee Valley Authority, thank a liberal.

If you ever drank a beer or a glass of wine without being thrown in jail, thank a liberal.

If you are not a land-owning white male, but have voted, thank a liberal.

If you have not died from tainted meat, been prescribed something useless or poisonous by a quack doctor, have not given your children cough syrup which turned out to have heroin as its secret ingredient, thank a liberal. (and Nixon)

If your workplace is safe and you are paid a living wage, including overtime; if you enjoy a 40-hour week and you are allowed to join a union to protect your rights without being lynched, thank a liberal.

If you've ever seen a national park, and it hadn't been strip mined and clearcut into a desert wasteland, thank a liberal.

If you have never suffered from an economy of massive deflation, and have never even heard of an economic phenomenon called a "panic", thank a liberal.

If your children go to school instead of working in coal mines, thank a liberal.

If you're a Native American and have not been killed or died in a concentration camp, or if you live near Native Americans and are not at war with them, thank a liberal.

If you have an industrial or high-tech job - or really, any job other than those available in a slave-powered cash crop economy (ie, a third world economy) thank a liberal.

If you're not a slave or "indentured servant" (white slave), don't think protection of slavery belongs in the constitution, if you've never been chained to a boat where half the passengers die, been whipped, had your family split up, been forced to "breed" with another slave you've never met, been raped by your boss, or killed for not being profitable, thank a liberal.

If you oppose political parties starting massive wars to destroy America, just because they lost the election, and killing hundreds of thousands of Americans in process - if you just don't have that much fanatical hatred of Lincoln's policy of to restricting slavery to states where it already existed, thank a liberal.

If you're part-Irish, Catholic, Jewish, or for that matter anything not Anglo-Saxon Protestant, and are allowed to live in America, and are not harassed and attacked for failing to be born Anglo-Saxon Protestant, or if you've ever bought or used anything built by a non-ASP American, thank a liberal.

If you kind of like freedom of speech, and don't want the state government to be able to censor you - (you think the 14th amendment is a good idea) - thank a liberal.

If you have ever bought or sold anything transported by the transcontinental railroad, or eaten food from a farm created by the railroad, thank a liberal.

If you think the US constitution is pretty cool, and have ever traveled too or done business with a country whose democracy was inspired by the American revolution, thank a liberal.

If you have not been drafted and used as cannon-fodder in some war caused by some petty insult between nobles, clan leaders, or other various overfed dictators, or suffered rape or looting in one of those countless wars, thank a liberal.

If you have not been tortured to death in a religious inquisition, thank a liberal.

If you don't have to walk though ankle-deep sewage in the streets (because sewers are big gummint), thank a liberal.

If you have ever done anything that is a religious or superstitious taboo (ie, done anything at all) without being stoned to death or cast out as a heretic, thank a liberal.

If you have never been raped, and then had the rapist escape punishment on the grounds that he marry you, thank a liberal.

If you are not a slave toiling to build a pyramid for some lazy dictator who's so spoiled he thinks he's god, and won't even see it until he's dead, thank a liberal.

If you have not been killed as a human sacrifice in the name of some god, thank a liberal.

In short, if you've ever enjoyed anything of the post-stone-age world, thank a liberal.

...And if not, become a conservative.

"Liberal policies made America the freest, wealthiest, most successful and most powerful nation in human history. Conservatism in power always threatens to undo that national progress, and is almost always frustrated by the innate decency and democratic instincts of the American people..." - Joe Conason
Yep, you're a fucking nutjob alright!
Thanks for further proving the point!
 
Jester, you're fucked mate. A conservative stands for nothing but resistance to change. They're useful in holding back some of the more reckless progressives but generally speaking they produce no new ideas or social movements. Accept your role as one of the spoilers with good grace, there is an evolutionary reason for conservatism but progress ain't it.
 
Jester, you're fucked mate. A conservative stands for nothing but resistance to change. They're useful in holding back some of the more reckless progressives but generally speaking they produce no new ideas or social movements. Accept your role as one of the spoilers with good grace, there is an evolutionary reason for conservatism but progress ain't it.

Truth

"What is conservatism? Is it not adherence to the old and tried, against the new and untried?"

Abraham Lincoln's Cooper Institute Address, February 27, 1860.

The definition of Conservatism is essentially Anti-Progress.
 
Jester, you're fucked mate. A conservative stands for nothing but resistance to change. They're useful in holding back some of the more reckless progressives but generally speaking they produce no new ideas or social movements. Accept your role as one of the spoilers with good grace, there is an evolutionary reason for conservatism but progress ain't it.

Truth

"What is conservatism? Is it not adherence to the old and tried, against the new and untried?"

Abraham Lincoln's Cooper Institute Address, February 27, 1860.

The definition of Conservatism is essentially Anti-Progress.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sjbnbanehQ]YouTube - THE REMIX - Ernie Anastos "KEEP FUCKING THAT CHICKEN"[/ame]
 
Jester, you're fucked mate. A conservative stands for nothing but resistance to change. They're useful in holding back some of the more reckless progressives but generally speaking they produce no new ideas or social movements. Accept your role as one of the spoilers with good grace, there is an evolutionary reason for conservatism but progress ain't it.

and liberal stands for what???? a 10 trillon debt that won't be paid. kissing YOUR enemies ass. a dicktator that calls his own people thugs, gangs and Nazi's. a stim pack that's fallen flat on its ass. a country on the verge of civil war. is this what you call social progressive movements??? sounds more like bowl movements.

sounds like you the one that took it in the ass mate
 
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Jester, you're fucked mate. A conservative stands for nothing but resistance to change. They're useful in holding back some of the more reckless progressives but generally speaking they produce no new ideas or social movements. Accept your role as one of the spoilers with good grace, there is an evolutionary reason for conservatism but progress ain't it.

Truth

"What is conservatism? Is it not adherence to the old and tried, against the new and untried?"

Abraham Lincoln's Cooper Institute Address, February 27, 1860.

The definition of Conservatism is essentially Anti-Progress.

where's the liberal progress. we are still waiting
 
Jester, you're fucked mate. A conservative stands for nothing but resistance to change. They're useful in holding back some of the more reckless progressives but generally speaking they produce no new ideas or social movements. Accept your role as one of the spoilers with good grace, there is an evolutionary reason for conservatism but progress ain't it.

and liberal stands for what???? a 10 trillon debt that won't be paid. kissing YOUR enemies ass. a dicktator that calls his own people thugs, gangs and Nazi's. a stim pack that's fallen flat on its ass. a country on the verge of civil war. is this what you call social progressive movements??? sounds more like bowl movements.

sounds like you the one that took it in the ass mate

Find it difficult to think outside of your own patch of dirt or what?
 

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