Liberals are the violent ones

[Norman]

ROFLMAO! You think the American Revolutionaries were gub'mint worshiping lefties? Hate to burst your bubble but the gub'mint worshipers like you were on the side of the British Crown.

Thanks for the ludicrous attempt at historical revisionism, I got a really good laugh out of it.

I do too, especially when I think of the 500,000 righties running off to Canada so they could be

Your ignorance of history and philosophy is showing again, the American Revolutionaries were indeed liberals as in actual LIBERALS in the vein of Locke, Smith and Hobbes, not authoritarian collectivists calling themselves "liberals" (like you), the only claim the modern "liberals" have to the liberalism of the American Revolutionaries is that you are slightly more liberal than Josef Stalin.

You have absolutely no idea what the concept of individual liberty means nor do you have any idea what the founders were actually fighting for or against, hell it's amazing you folks can manage to draw breathe without your government masters giving you leave to do so and it's absolutely NO surprise that when any sort of disagreement arises you invariably resort to force (either personally or via proxy in the form of government coercion) in attempt to get your way.

... but again thanks for the laugh, keep 'em coming.

How odd you pick a fight over Loyalists and Patriots. Loyalists tended to be the wealthy or those grounded in the Monarchy, while Patriots tended to be the educated and strident believers in the Age of Enlightenment. Then there were the fence sitters who didn't want to make a commitment until they saw a clear path for the new country.

We can argue all day about those numbers and never come to an agreement about what they mean. What we do know is that Loyalists tended to be right thinkers, with wealth, land, and public recognition. Patriots could be either left or right but were predominately left thinking as reflected in the writings of the day. The fence sitters are broken up and represent women, who supported their husbands, native Americans who tended to be Loyalist for the promise of protection the Crown offered and Blacks, who were offered freedom by the Crown. There was also a group of religious people who were stridently non-violent and refused subscription. These people tend to be right thinkers.

Insulting someone by saying that someone is so stupid they have trouble breathing is nasty. So I won't insult you by saying your ancestors were punk ass traitors who sucked red cock. You can see little is gained by going down that path.

What we do know is that 80,000 Loyalists left the country when the Monarchy lost the war. They fled to Canada or went home to Great Britain.

You're either stupid or ignorant, well, or both since they're not mutually exclusive.

The founding fathers had a deep mistrust of government and a good number of them, including 4 of the first 5 presidents were slave owners. Drop the left-thinking love of big government and taxes shit.

Puhleeze, the Founders were pragmatic men interested in building a nation. The Articles of Confederation prove they were fed up with weak centralized government.

What the hell do you think the Constitution is? Left-leaning my ass.

Do you actually know what Liberalism is?

Ah, the liberal definition train is coming. You just don't understand the definition of socialism/feminism/liberalism (or any left-wing idiocy)! You see, feminism is the equality between sexes!

Thankfully we have google to sort out the real definition today. This is what liberalism is:

And most of them don't care whether it's legal or not either. Violence is their way.

Don't for a moment mix the modern day regressive liberalism with the classic libertarian liberalism. They are polar opposites, liberals just decided to co-opt the term. They always claim they are something great and amazing, which they are not.

 

[Uncensored2008]

[

Do you know what anything is?

He knows what his Che shirt is!

Q: Why do democrats were teeshirts with Che Guevara on them?

A: Because their Osama Bin Laden shirts are dirty.

Democrats: promoting terrorism since 1965.

 

[bodecea]

I do too, especially when I think of the 500,000 righties running off to Canada so they could be
How odd you pick a fight over Loyalists and Patriots. Loyalists tended to be the wealthy or those grounded in the Monarchy, while Patriots tended to be the educated and strident believers in the Age of Enlightenment. Then there were the fence sitters who didn't want to make a commitment until they saw a clear path for the new country.

We can argue all day about those numbers and never come to an agreement about what they mean. What we do know is that Loyalists tended to be right thinkers, with wealth, land, and public recognition. Patriots could be either left or right but were predominately left thinking as reflected in the writings of the day. The fence sitters are broken up and represent women, who supported their husbands, native Americans who tended to be Loyalist for the promise of protection the Crown offered and Blacks, who were offered freedom by the Crown. There was also a group of religious people who were stridently non-violent and refused subscription. These people tend to be right thinkers.

Insulting someone by saying that someone is so stupid they have trouble breathing is nasty. So I won't insult you by saying your ancestors were punk ass traitors who sucked red cock. You can see little is gained by going down that path.

What we do know is that 80,000 Loyalists left the country when the Monarchy lost the war. They fled to Canada or went home to Great Britain.

You're either stupid or ignorant, well, or both since they're not mutually exclusive.

The founding fathers had a deep mistrust of government and a good number of them, including 4 of the first 5 presidents were slave owners. Drop the left-thinking love of big government and taxes shit.

Puhleeze, the Founders were pragmatic men interested in building a nation. The Articles of Confederation prove they were fed up with weak centralized government.

What the hell do you think the Constitution is? Left-leaning my ass.

Do you actually know what Liberalism is?

Do you know what anything is?

Full Definition of liberalism

1. 1: the quality or state of being liberal
   
   
2. 2a often capitalized : a movement in modern Protestantism emphasizing intellectual libertyand the spiritual and ethical content of Christianityb : a theory in economics emphasizing individual freedom from restraint and usually based on free competition, the self-regulating market, and the gold standardc : a political philosophy based on belief in progress, the essential goodness of the human race, and the autonomy of the individual and standing for the protection of political and civil liberties; specifically : such a philosophy that considers government as a crucial instrument for amelioration of social inequities (as those involving race, gender, or class)d capitalized : the principles and policies of a Liberal party
   

 

[BluesLegend]

Liberals are punks who pick on women and old people. The prissy little shits are overdue for a good old fashioned beating.

 

[Juan de Fuca]

Liberals are the violent ones

Not usually but we did kick British ass to get this place. Try to remember that.

ROFLMAO! You think the American Revolutionaries were gub'mint worshiping lefties? Hate to burst your bubble but the gub'mint worshipers like you were on the side of the British Crown.

Thanks for the ludicrous attempt at historical revisionism, I got a really good laugh out of it.

I do too, especially when I think of the 500,000 righties running off to Canada so they could be

Those on the government side were the conservatives, called Tories.


The liberals sent them packing, in order to found a nation of liberty, based on liberalism.

Your ignorance of history and philosophy is showing again, the American Revolutionaries were indeed liberals as in actual LIBERALS in the vein of Locke, Smith and Hobbes, not authoritarian collectivists calling themselves "liberals" (like you), the only claim the modern "liberals" have to the liberalism of the American Revolutionaries is that you are slightly more liberal than Josef Stalin.

You have absolutely no idea what the concept of individual liberty means nor do you have any idea what the founders were actually fighting for or against, hell it's amazing you folks can manage to draw breathe without your government masters giving you leave to do so and it's absolutely NO surprise that when any sort of disagreement arises you invariably resort to force (either personally or via proxy in the form of government coercion) in attempt to get your way.

... but again thanks for the laugh, keep 'em coming.

How odd you pick a fight over Loyalists and Patriots. Loyalists tended to be the wealthy or those grounded in the Monarchy, while Patriots tended to be the educated and strident believers in the Age of Enlightenment. Then there were the fence sitters who didn't want to make a commitment until they saw a clear path for the new country.

We can argue all day about those numbers and never come to an agreement about what they mean. What we do know is that Loyalists tended to be right thinkers, with wealth, land, and public recognition. Patriots could be either left or right but were predominately left thinking as reflected in the writings of the day. The fence sitters are broken up and represent women, who supported their husbands, native Americans who tended to be Loyalist for the promise of protection the Crown offered and Blacks, who were offered freedom by the Crown. There was also a group of religious people who were stridently non-violent and refused subscription. These people tend to be right thinkers.

Insulting someone by saying that someone is so stupid they have trouble breathing is nasty. So I won't insult you by saying your ancestors were punk ass traitors who sucked red cock. You can see little is gained by going down that path.

What we do know is that 80,000 Loyalists left the country when the Monarchy lost the war. They fled to Canada or went home to Great Britain.

You're either stupid or ignorant, well, or both since they're not mutually exclusive.

The founding fathers had a deep mistrust of government and a good number of them, including 4 of the first 5 presidents were slave owners. Drop the left-thinking love of big government and taxes shit.

Puhleeze, the Founders were pragmatic men interested in building a nation. The Articles of Confederation prove they were fed up with weak centralized government.

What the hell do you think the Constitution is? Left-leaning my ass.

Yeah it spells out human rights that is hardly right thinking.

 

[Uncensored2008]

[
Since I am what you would call a "classic liberal", I can't help you there.

A "classical liberal" in the vein of Karl Marx?

Wait, what is that smell? I smell Chomskyite...

 

[Meathead]

ROFLMAO! You think the American Revolutionaries were gub'mint worshiping lefties? Hate to burst your bubble but the gub'mint worshipers like you were on the side of the British Crown.

Thanks for the ludicrous attempt at historical revisionism, I got a really good laugh out of it.

I do too, especially when I think of the 500,000 righties running off to Canada so they could be

Your ignorance of history and philosophy is showing again, the American Revolutionaries were indeed liberals as in actual LIBERALS in the vein of Locke, Smith and Hobbes, not authoritarian collectivists calling themselves "liberals" (like you), the only claim the modern "liberals" have to the liberalism of the American Revolutionaries is that you are slightly more liberal than Josef Stalin.

You have absolutely no idea what the concept of individual liberty means nor do you have any idea what the founders were actually fighting for or against, hell it's amazing you folks can manage to draw breathe without your government masters giving you leave to do so and it's absolutely NO surprise that when any sort of disagreement arises you invariably resort to force (either personally or via proxy in the form of government coercion) in attempt to get your way.

... but again thanks for the laugh, keep 'em coming.

How odd you pick a fight over Loyalists and Patriots. Loyalists tended to be the wealthy or those grounded in the Monarchy, while Patriots tended to be the educated and strident believers in the Age of Enlightenment. Then there were the fence sitters who didn't want to make a commitment until they saw a clear path for the new country.

We can argue all day about those numbers and never come to an agreement about what they mean. What we do know is that Loyalists tended to be right thinkers, with wealth, land, and public recognition. Patriots could be either left or right but were predominately left thinking as reflected in the writings of the day. The fence sitters are broken up and represent women, who supported their husbands, native Americans who tended to be Loyalist for the promise of protection the Crown offered and Blacks, who were offered freedom by the Crown. There was also a group of religious people who were stridently non-violent and refused subscription. These people tend to be right thinkers.

Insulting someone by saying that someone is so stupid they have trouble breathing is nasty. So I won't insult you by saying your ancestors were punk ass traitors who sucked red cock. You can see little is gained by going down that path.

What we do know is that 80,000 Loyalists left the country when the Monarchy lost the war. They fled to Canada or went home to Great Britain.

You're either stupid or ignorant, well, or both since they're not mutually exclusive.

The founding fathers had a deep mistrust of government and a good number of them, including 4 of the first 5 presidents were slave owners. Drop the left-thinking love of big government and taxes shit.

Puhleeze, the Founders were pragmatic men interested in building a nation. The Articles of Confederation prove they were fed up with weak centralized government.

What the hell do you think the Constitution is? Left-leaning my ass.

Do you actually know what Liberalism is?

In the United States today it has a specific meaning. We were arguing left-leaning here by the way.

Kid, you are way out of your league with me. Go back and finish high school then consider getting an actual education. Once you do that, we''ll speak again in about 10 years.

 

[NightFox]

Liberals are the violent ones

Not usually but we did kick British ass to get this place. Try to remember that.

ROFLMAO! You think the American Revolutionaries were gub'mint worshiping lefties? Hate to burst your bubble but the gub'mint worshipers like you were on the side of the British Crown.

Thanks for the ludicrous attempt at historical revisionism, I got a really good laugh out of it.

Those on the government side were the conservatives, called Tories.


The liberals sent them packing, in order to found a nation of liberty, based on liberalism.

Your ignorance of history and philosophy is showing again, the American Revolutionaries were indeed liberals as in actual LIBERALS in the vein of Locke, Smith and Hobbes, not authoritarian collectivists calling themselves "liberals" (like you), the only claim the modern "liberals" have to the liberalism of the American Revolutionaries is that you are slightly more liberal than Josef Stalin.

You have absolutely no idea what the concept of individual liberty means nor do you have any idea what the founders were actually fighting for or against, hell it's amazing you folks can manage to draw breathe without your government masters giving you leave to do so and it's absolutely NO surprise that when any sort of disagreement arises you invariably resort to force (either personally or via proxy in the form of government coercion) in attempt to get your way.

... but again thanks for the laugh, keep 'em coming.

I am what you would call a "classic liberal", a garbage phrase, only I live now, not then.

Uh-Huh, sure you are and let me know when Elvis gets here .....

P.S. the term is classicAL liberal and based on your posts you don't have anything in common with 'em.

 

[Jack4jill]

Liberals are the violent ones

Not usually but we did kick British ass to get this place. Try to remember that.

ROFLMAO! You think the American Revolutionaries were gub'mint worshiping lefties? Hate to burst your bubble but the gub'mint worshipers like you were on the side of the British Crown.

Thanks for the ludicrous attempt at historical revisionism, I got a really good laugh out of it.

Those on the government side were the conservatives, called Tories.


The liberals sent them packing, in order to found a nation of liberty, based on liberalism.

Your ignorance of history and philosophy is showing again, the American Revolutionaries were indeed liberals as in actual LIBERALS in the vein of Locke, Smith and Hobbes, not authoritarian collectivists calling themselves "liberals" (like you), the only claim the modern "liberals" have to the liberalism of the American Revolutionaries is that you are slightly more liberal than Josef Stalin.

You have absolutely no idea what the concept of individual liberty means nor do you have any idea what the founders were actually fighting for or against, hell it's amazing you folks can manage to draw breathe without your government masters giving you leave to do so and it's absolutely NO surprise that when any sort of disagreement arises you invariably resort to force (either personally or via proxy in the form of government coercion) in attempt to get your way.

... but again thanks for the laugh, keep 'em coming.

I am what you would call a "classic liberal", a garbage phrase, only I live now, not then.

Uh-Huh, sure you are and let me know when Elvis gets here .....

P.S. the term is classicAL liberal and based on your posts you don't have anything in common with 'em.

You have no idea who I am.

And no understanding of liberalism.

 

[Juan de Fuca]

Liberals are the violent ones

Not usually but we did kick British ass to get this place. Try to remember that.

ROFLMAO! You think the American Revolutionaries were gub'mint worshiping lefties? Hate to burst your bubble but the gub'mint worshipers like you were on the side of the British Crown.

Thanks for the ludicrous attempt at historical revisionism, I got a really good laugh out of it.

I do too, especially when I think of the 500,000 righties running off to Canada so they could be

Those on the government side were the conservatives, called Tories.


The liberals sent them packing, in order to found a nation of liberty, based on liberalism.

Your ignorance of history and philosophy is showing again, the American Revolutionaries were indeed liberals as in actual LIBERALS in the vein of Locke, Smith and Hobbes, not authoritarian collectivists calling themselves "liberals" (like you), the only claim the modern "liberals" have to the liberalism of the American Revolutionaries is that you are slightly more liberal than Josef Stalin.

You have absolutely no idea what the concept of individual liberty means nor do you have any idea what the founders were actually fighting for or against, hell it's amazing you folks can manage to draw breathe without your government masters giving you leave to do so and it's absolutely NO surprise that when any sort of disagreement arises you invariably resort to force (either personally or via proxy in the form of government coercion) in attempt to get your way.

... but again thanks for the laugh, keep 'em coming.

How odd you pick a fight over Loyalists and Patriots. Loyalists tended to be the wealthy or those grounded in the Monarchy, while Patriots tended to be the educated and strident believers in the Age of Enlightenment. Then there were the fence sitters who didn't want to make a commitment until they saw a clear path for the new country.

We can argue all day about those numbers and never come to an agreement about what they mean. What we do know is that Loyalists tended to be right thinkers, with wealth, land, and public recognition. Patriots could be either left or right but were predominately left thinking as reflected in the writings of the day. The fence sitters are broken up and represent women, who supported their husbands, native Americans who tended to be Loyalist for the promise of protection the Crown offered and Blacks, who were offered freedom by the Crown. There was also a group of religious people who were stridently non-violent and refused subscription. These people tend to be right thinkers.

Insulting someone by saying that someone is so stupid they have trouble breathing is nasty. So I won't insult you by saying your ancestors were punk ass traitors who sucked red cock. You can see little is gained by going down that path.

What we do know is that 80,000 Loyalists left the country when the Monarchy lost the war. They fled to Canada or went home to Great Britain.

You're either stupid or ignorant, well, or both since they're not mutually exclusive.

The founding fathers had a deep mistrust of government and a good number of them, including 4 of the first 5 presidents were slave owners. Drop the left-thinking love of big government and taxes shit.

Puhleeze, the Founders were pragmatic men interested in building a nation. The Articles of Confederation prove they were fed up with weak centralized government.

That's why they built the smallest government in history indeed. About 1/10th the size it is today (relative to economy).

They would roll in their graves if they heard the liberal cluster-fuck that is going on today.

LOL, that's why they dumped the Articles of Confederation for the Constitution. They needed to build this country around commerce and built the framework to do it. That is not a definition of small government.

 

[Jack4jill]

I do too, especially when I think of the 500,000 righties running off to Canada so they could be
How odd you pick a fight over Loyalists and Patriots. Loyalists tended to be the wealthy or those grounded in the Monarchy, while Patriots tended to be the educated and strident believers in the Age of Enlightenment. Then there were the fence sitters who didn't want to make a commitment until they saw a clear path for the new country.

We can argue all day about those numbers and never come to an agreement about what they mean. What we do know is that Loyalists tended to be right thinkers, with wealth, land, and public recognition. Patriots could be either left or right but were predominately left thinking as reflected in the writings of the day. The fence sitters are broken up and represent women, who supported their husbands, native Americans who tended to be Loyalist for the promise of protection the Crown offered and Blacks, who were offered freedom by the Crown. There was also a group of religious people who were stridently non-violent and refused subscription. These people tend to be right thinkers.

Insulting someone by saying that someone is so stupid they have trouble breathing is nasty. So I won't insult you by saying your ancestors were punk ass traitors who sucked red cock. You can see little is gained by going down that path.

What we do know is that 80,000 Loyalists left the country when the Monarchy lost the war. They fled to Canada or went home to Great Britain.

You're either stupid or ignorant, well, or both since they're not mutually exclusive.

The founding fathers had a deep mistrust of government and a good number of them, including 4 of the first 5 presidents were slave owners. Drop the left-thinking love of big government and taxes shit.

Puhleeze, the Founders were pragmatic men interested in building a nation. The Articles of Confederation prove they were fed up with weak centralized government.

What the hell do you think the Constitution is? Left-leaning my ass.

Do you actually know what Liberalism is?

In the United States today it has a specific meaning. We were arguing left-leaning here by the way.

Kid, you are way out of your league with me. Go back and finish high school then consider getting an actual education. Once you do that, we''ll speak again in about 10 years.

As I said, you don't know what liberalism is.

 

[Meathead]

ROFLMAO! You think the American Revolutionaries were gub'mint worshiping lefties? Hate to burst your bubble but the gub'mint worshipers like you were on the side of the British Crown.

Thanks for the ludicrous attempt at historical revisionism, I got a really good laugh out of it.

I do too, especially when I think of the 500,000 righties running off to Canada so they could be

Your ignorance of history and philosophy is showing again, the American Revolutionaries were indeed liberals as in actual LIBERALS in the vein of Locke, Smith and Hobbes, not authoritarian collectivists calling themselves "liberals" (like you), the only claim the modern "liberals" have to the liberalism of the American Revolutionaries is that you are slightly more liberal than Josef Stalin.

You have absolutely no idea what the concept of individual liberty means nor do you have any idea what the founders were actually fighting for or against, hell it's amazing you folks can manage to draw breathe without your government masters giving you leave to do so and it's absolutely NO surprise that when any sort of disagreement arises you invariably resort to force (either personally or via proxy in the form of government coercion) in attempt to get your way.

... but again thanks for the laugh, keep 'em coming.

How odd you pick a fight over Loyalists and Patriots. Loyalists tended to be the wealthy or those grounded in the Monarchy, while Patriots tended to be the educated and strident believers in the Age of Enlightenment. Then there were the fence sitters who didn't want to make a commitment until they saw a clear path for the new country.

We can argue all day about those numbers and never come to an agreement about what they mean. What we do know is that Loyalists tended to be right thinkers, with wealth, land, and public recognition. Patriots could be either left or right but were predominately left thinking as reflected in the writings of the day. The fence sitters are broken up and represent women, who supported their husbands, native Americans who tended to be Loyalist for the promise of protection the Crown offered and Blacks, who were offered freedom by the Crown. There was also a group of religious people who were stridently non-violent and refused subscription. These people tend to be right thinkers.

Insulting someone by saying that someone is so stupid they have trouble breathing is nasty. So I won't insult you by saying your ancestors were punk ass traitors who sucked red cock. You can see little is gained by going down that path.

What we do know is that 80,000 Loyalists left the country when the Monarchy lost the war. They fled to Canada or went home to Great Britain.

You're either stupid or ignorant, well, or both since they're not mutually exclusive.

The founding fathers had a deep mistrust of government and a good number of them, including 4 of the first 5 presidents were slave owners. Drop the left-thinking love of big government and taxes shit.

Puhleeze, the Founders were pragmatic men interested in building a nation. The Articles of Confederation prove they were fed up with weak centralized government.

What the hell do you think the Constitution is? Left-leaning my ass.

Yeah it spells out human rights that is hardly right thinking.

The Constitution is a document that limits the powers of government. It is for this reason that it is largely ignored by left-leaning Brownshirts.

 

[Juan de Fuca]

Liberals are the violent ones

Not usually but we did kick British ass to get this place. Try to remember that.

ROFLMAO! You think the American Revolutionaries were gub'mint worshiping lefties? Hate to burst your bubble but the gub'mint worshipers like you were on the side of the British Crown.

Thanks for the ludicrous attempt at historical revisionism, I got a really good laugh out of it.

I do too, especially when I think of the 500,000 righties running off to Canada so they could be

Those on the government side were the conservatives, called Tories.


The liberals sent them packing, in order to found a nation of liberty, based on liberalism.

Your ignorance of history and philosophy is showing again, the American Revolutionaries were indeed liberals as in actual LIBERALS in the vein of Locke, Smith and Hobbes, not authoritarian collectivists calling themselves "liberals" (like you), the only claim the modern "liberals" have to the liberalism of the American Revolutionaries is that you are slightly more liberal than Josef Stalin.

You have absolutely no idea what the concept of individual liberty means nor do you have any idea what the founders were actually fighting for or against, hell it's amazing you folks can manage to draw breathe without your government masters giving you leave to do so and it's absolutely NO surprise that when any sort of disagreement arises you invariably resort to force (either personally or via proxy in the form of government coercion) in attempt to get your way.

... but again thanks for the laugh, keep 'em coming.

How odd you pick a fight over Loyalists and Patriots. Loyalists tended to be the wealthy or those grounded in the Monarchy, while Patriots tended to be the educated and strident believers in the Age of Enlightenment. Then there were the fence sitters who didn't want to make a commitment until they saw a clear path for the new country.

We can argue all day about those numbers and never come to an agreement about what they mean. What we do know is that Loyalists tended to be right thinkers, with wealth, land, and public recognition. Patriots could be either left or right but were predominately left thinking as reflected in the writings of the day. The fence sitters are broken up and represent women, who supported their husbands, native Americans who tended to be Loyalist for the promise of protection the Crown offered and Blacks, who were offered freedom by the Crown. There was also a group of religious people who were stridently non-violent and refused subscription. These people tend to be right thinkers.

Insulting someone by saying that someone is so stupid they have trouble breathing is nasty. So I won't insult you by saying your ancestors were punk ass traitors who sucked red cock. You can see little is gained by going down that path.

What we do know is that 80,000 Loyalists left the country when the Monarchy lost the war. They fled to Canada or went home to Great Britain.

You're either stupid or ignorant, well, or both since they're not mutually exclusive.

The founding fathers had a deep mistrust of government and a good number of them, including 4 of the first 5 presidents were slave owners. Drop the left-thinking love of big government and taxes shit.

Puhleeze, the Founders were pragmatic men interested in building a nation. The Articles of Confederation prove they were fed up with weak centralized government.

The Constitution you mean.

No, the Articles of Confederation was first.

 

[Norman]

ROFLMAO! You think the American Revolutionaries were gub'mint worshiping lefties? Hate to burst your bubble but the gub'mint worshipers like you were on the side of the British Crown.

Thanks for the ludicrous attempt at historical revisionism, I got a really good laugh out of it.

Those on the government side were the conservatives, called Tories.


The liberals sent them packing, in order to found a nation of liberty, based on liberalism.

Your ignorance of history and philosophy is showing again, the American Revolutionaries were indeed liberals as in actual LIBERALS in the vein of Locke, Smith and Hobbes, not authoritarian collectivists calling themselves "liberals" (like you), the only claim the modern "liberals" have to the liberalism of the American Revolutionaries is that you are slightly more liberal than Josef Stalin.

You have absolutely no idea what the concept of individual liberty means nor do you have any idea what the founders were actually fighting for or against, hell it's amazing you folks can manage to draw breathe without your government masters giving you leave to do so and it's absolutely NO surprise that when any sort of disagreement arises you invariably resort to force (either personally or via proxy in the form of government coercion) in attempt to get your way.

... but again thanks for the laugh, keep 'em coming.

I am what you would call a "classic liberal", a garbage phrase, only I live now, not then.

Uh-Huh, sure you are and let me know when Elvis gets here .....

P.S. the term is classicAL liberal and based on your posts you don't have anything in common with 'em.

You have no idea who I am.

And no understanding of liberalism.

You have demonstrated your ignorance. - so the first argument is incorrect.

He understand what liberalism - while you don't. You have yet again demonstrated your ignorance, we can be even more confident of your total liberal ignorance.

 

[Juan de Fuca]

Liberals are punks who pick on women and old people. The prissy little shits are overdue for a good old fashioned beating.

Ha Ha, Yours is coming.

 

[Jack4jill]

Those on the government side were the conservatives, called Tories.


The liberals sent them packing, in order to found a nation of liberty, based on liberalism.

Your ignorance of history and philosophy is showing again, the American Revolutionaries were indeed liberals as in actual LIBERALS in the vein of Locke, Smith and Hobbes, not authoritarian collectivists calling themselves "liberals" (like you), the only claim the modern "liberals" have to the liberalism of the American Revolutionaries is that you are slightly more liberal than Josef Stalin.

You have absolutely no idea what the concept of individual liberty means nor do you have any idea what the founders were actually fighting for or against, hell it's amazing you folks can manage to draw breathe without your government masters giving you leave to do so and it's absolutely NO surprise that when any sort of disagreement arises you invariably resort to force (either personally or via proxy in the form of government coercion) in attempt to get your way.

... but again thanks for the laugh, keep 'em coming.

I am what you would call a "classic liberal", a garbage phrase, only I live now, not then.

Uh-Huh, sure you are and let me know when Elvis gets here .....

P.S. the term is classicAL liberal and based on your posts you don't have anything in common with 'em.

You have no idea who I am.

And no understanding of liberalism.

You have demonstrated your ignorance. - so the first argument is incorrect.

He understand what liberalism - while you don't. You have yet again demonstrated your ignorance, we can be even more confident of your total liberal ignorance.

If you understand what it is, and how it grants you liberty, tell me?

Here, I'll start you off. What does a liberal say about Free Speech?

 

[Uncensored2008]

[
Those on the government side were the conservatives, called Tories.

Ah, lying.

How leftist of you.

The liberals sent them packing, in order to found a nation of liberty, based on liberalism.

Yes, I remember fondly Jefferson's address on wealth redistribution and universal health care.

You leftists are so smart, and so honest.

“As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality.” — George Washington

Liberal to Washington was one who supported liberty - i.e. today's Libertarians and Republicans.

But feel free to lie, it is the leftist way.

 

[Jack4jill]

ROFLMAO! You think the American Revolutionaries were gub'mint worshiping lefties? Hate to burst your bubble but the gub'mint worshipers like you were on the side of the British Crown.

Thanks for the ludicrous attempt at historical revisionism, I got a really good laugh out of it.

I do too, especially when I think of the 500,000 righties running off to Canada so they could be

Your ignorance of history and philosophy is showing again, the American Revolutionaries were indeed liberals as in actual LIBERALS in the vein of Locke, Smith and Hobbes, not authoritarian collectivists calling themselves "liberals" (like you), the only claim the modern "liberals" have to the liberalism of the American Revolutionaries is that you are slightly more liberal than Josef Stalin.

You have absolutely no idea what the concept of individual liberty means nor do you have any idea what the founders were actually fighting for or against, hell it's amazing you folks can manage to draw breathe without your government masters giving you leave to do so and it's absolutely NO surprise that when any sort of disagreement arises you invariably resort to force (either personally or via proxy in the form of government coercion) in attempt to get your way.

... but again thanks for the laugh, keep 'em coming.

How odd you pick a fight over Loyalists and Patriots. Loyalists tended to be the wealthy or those grounded in the Monarchy, while Patriots tended to be the educated and strident believers in the Age of Enlightenment. Then there were the fence sitters who didn't want to make a commitment until they saw a clear path for the new country.

We can argue all day about those numbers and never come to an agreement about what they mean. What we do know is that Loyalists tended to be right thinkers, with wealth, land, and public recognition. Patriots could be either left or right but were predominately left thinking as reflected in the writings of the day. The fence sitters are broken up and represent women, who supported their husbands, native Americans who tended to be Loyalist for the promise of protection the Crown offered and Blacks, who were offered freedom by the Crown. There was also a group of religious people who were stridently non-violent and refused subscription. These people tend to be right thinkers.

Insulting someone by saying that someone is so stupid they have trouble breathing is nasty. So I won't insult you by saying your ancestors were punk ass traitors who sucked red cock. You can see little is gained by going down that path.

What we do know is that 80,000 Loyalists left the country when the Monarchy lost the war. They fled to Canada or went home to Great Britain.

You're either stupid or ignorant, well, or both since they're not mutually exclusive.

The founding fathers had a deep mistrust of government and a good number of them, including 4 of the first 5 presidents were slave owners. Drop the left-thinking love of big government and taxes shit.

Puhleeze, the Founders were pragmatic men interested in building a nation. The Articles of Confederation prove they were fed up with weak centralized government.

The Constitution you mean.

No, the Articles of Confederation was first.

Yes, it was, and it had a weak federal government, which they fixed in the Constitution.

 

[Uncensored2008]

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Your ignorance of history and philosophy is showing again, the American Revolutionaries were indeed liberals as in actual LIBERALS in the vein of Locke, Smith and Hobbes, not authoritarian collectivists calling themselves "liberals" (like you), the only claim the modern "liberals" have to the liberalism of the American Revolutionaries is that you are slightly more liberal than Josef Stalin.

You have absolutely no idea what the concept of individual liberty means nor do you have any idea what the founders were actually fighting for or against, hell it's amazing you folks can manage to draw breathe without your government masters giving you leave to do so and it's absolutely NO surprise that when any sort of disagreement arises you invariably resort to force (either personally or via proxy in the form of government coercion) in attempt to get your way.

... but again thanks for the laugh, keep 'em coming.

He's probably a Chomskyite. They tend to make up history out of whole cloth.

 

[NightFox]

ROFLMAO! You think the American Revolutionaries were gub'mint worshiping lefties? Hate to burst your bubble but the gub'mint worshipers like you were on the side of the British Crown.

Thanks for the ludicrous attempt at historical revisionism, I got a really good laugh out of it.

Those on the government side were the conservatives, called Tories.


The liberals sent them packing, in order to found a nation of liberty, based on liberalism.

Your ignorance of history and philosophy is showing again, the American Revolutionaries were indeed liberals as in actual LIBERALS in the vein of Locke, Smith and Hobbes, not authoritarian collectivists calling themselves "liberals" (like you), the only claim the modern "liberals" have to the liberalism of the American Revolutionaries is that you are slightly more liberal than Josef Stalin.

You have absolutely no idea what the concept of individual liberty means nor do you have any idea what the founders were actually fighting for or against, hell it's amazing you folks can manage to draw breathe without your government masters giving you leave to do so and it's absolutely NO surprise that when any sort of disagreement arises you invariably resort to force (either personally or via proxy in the form of government coercion) in attempt to get your way.

... but again thanks for the laugh, keep 'em coming.

I am what you would call a "classic liberal", a garbage phrase, only I live now, not then.

Uh-Huh, sure you are and let me know when Elvis gets here .....

P.S. the term is classicAL liberal and based on your posts you don't have anything in common with 'em.

You have no idea who I am.

That's true only if what you post is a complete act that doesn't really reflect your philosophy, otherwise I know exactly who you are and what you represent.

And no understanding of liberalism.

LOL, yeah I know, it's whatever you authoritarian collectivists say it is, regardless of history, right Josef?