Kansas Tax Cut Experiment Comes To An End As Lawmakers Vote To Raise Taxes

[Vandalshandle]

The only two states that actually passed into the control of the Tea Party were Kansas and Louisiana. Both states ended up virtually bankrupt, and both states have now rejected the whole tea party concept. The Tea party is dead, and has now been replaced by the Trump populists, who basically stand for nothing except a reactionary business agenda which will also turn into another Enron or mortgage derivative economic disaster.

And the beat goes on.

 

[Dot Com]

Another Republican fail....and they still think this is going to work on a national level? My own state, which has significant budgetary problems and a new Republican majority is looking at the same sort of legislation

Kansas Tax Cut Experiment Comes To An End As Lawmakers Vote To Raise Taxes

Kansas lawmakers have voted to roll back a series of major tax cuts that became an example for conservative lawmakers around the country but didn't deliver the growth and prosperity promised by Gov. Sam Brownback, a Republican.


A coalition of conservative Republicans, some of whom voted for sweeping tax cuts in 2012 or defended them in the years since, sided with moderates and Democrats to override Brownback's veto of a $1.2 billion tax increase.


The law to increase taxes over the next two years comes as legislators seek to close a projected $900 million budget gap for that same period and bolster funding for K-12 schools under a Kansas Supreme Court order.


"It's a huge vote," said state Rep. Steven Johnson, a Republican and chairman of the House tax panel, adding that legislative leadership had explored many routes to find a tax solution that would gain sufficient support in both chambers. "It's a huge vote for looking for an option for Kansas among limited options."


Floor debates on taxes ran late into Tuesday evening, but in the end, 27 senators and 88 representatives rendered Brownback's veto — which had been handed down just hours earlier — irrelevant.


Passage of the tax bill brings to an end signature tax policies of the Brownback administration. Most of those policies were part of a 2012 law that exempted owners of more than 300,000 small businesses and became a political flashpoint in recent elections.​

who woulda guessed that could happen?

 

[martybegan]

And while they did the "adult" thing in the short term, they still haven't solved the issue of the long term issues of living within ones means when it comes to government.

5 years is long enough to see results. Kansas is a red red red state - not sure how much you can blame on "out of control" spending. Seems more like a bad policy.

This is what probably forced their hand.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/02/us/kansas-supreme-court-school-spending.html?_r=0

School funding consumes about half of Kansas’ budget, and its political salience cuts across party lines. Kansas prides itself on its public schools, and, in many small towns, the high school serves as a community anchor. The right to a suitably funded education is enshrined in the state Constitution.

I would bet money that some of the issue is a reluctance to consolidate high schools and other schools as towns get smaller and demographics shift.

Significant tax cuts are supposed to generate significant revenue but after 5 years, despite spending cuts, and veto'ing increases in education funding - it's not happening.

So they go back to the old "throw money at it" solution and run into the same issue 10 years from now they had before.

Yeah, the way people throw money at the rent, and the mortgage, and the car payment, and groceries, and shoes for the kids, and...

They didn't have any issues in the first place until another failed Republican put in a proven failed policy.

Entirely unrelated, and your glossing over the budget issues the previous democratic governor had notes you as the hack you are.

 

[Brain357]

The only two states that actually passed into the control of the Tea Party were Kansas and Louisiana. Both states ended up virtually bankrupt, and both states have now rejected the whole tea party concept. The Tea party is dead, and has now been replaced by the Trump populists, who basically stand for nothing except a reactionary business agenda which will also turn into another Enron or mortgage derivative economic disaster.

And the beat goes on.

And yet so many will still support this failed concept...

 

[Dot Com]

bump for truth

has PoliticalChic responded to this thread?

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Another Republican fail....and they still think this is going to work on a national level? My own state, which has significant budgetary problems and a new Republican majority is looking at the same sort of legislation

Kansas Tax Cut Experiment Comes To An End As Lawmakers Vote To Raise Taxes

Kansas lawmakers have voted to roll back a series of major tax cuts that became an example for conservative lawmakers around the country but didn't deliver the growth and prosperity promised by Gov. Sam Brownback, a Republican.


A coalition of conservative Republicans, some of whom voted for sweeping tax cuts in 2012 or defended them in the years since, sided with moderates and Democrats to override Brownback's veto of a $1.2 billion tax increase.


The law to increase taxes over the next two years comes as legislators seek to close a projected $900 million budget gap for that same period and bolster funding for K-12 schools under a Kansas Supreme Court order.


"It's a huge vote," said state Rep. Steven Johnson, a Republican and chairman of the House tax panel, adding that legislative leadership had explored many routes to find a tax solution that would gain sufficient support in both chambers. "It's a huge vote for looking for an option for Kansas among limited options."


Floor debates on taxes ran late into Tuesday evening, but in the end, 27 senators and 88 representatives rendered Brownback's veto — which had been handed down just hours earlier — irrelevant.


Passage of the tax bill brings to an end signature tax policies of the Brownback administration. Most of those policies were part of a 2012 law that exempted owners of more than 300,000 small businesses and became a political flashpoint in recent elections.​

Actually that's not what happened. The tax cuts worked. Just last year it resulted in 20k jobs. And the budget was within a couple items of being balanced with a surplus this year. But since it's easier to raise taxes than cut the people sending you campaign money...the voters get screwed with 1.2 billion in new taxes. Yay.

 

[Dot Com]

Actually that's not what happened. The tax cuts worked. Just last year it resulted in 20k jobs. And the budget was within a couple items of being balanced with a surplus this year. But since it's easier to raise taxes than cut the people sending you campaign money...the voters get screwed with 1.2 billion in new taxes. Yay.

link?

 

[Vandalshandle]

Another Republican fail....and they still think this is going to work on a national level? My own state, which has significant budgetary problems and a new Republican majority is looking at the same sort of legislation

Kansas Tax Cut Experiment Comes To An End As Lawmakers Vote To Raise Taxes

Kansas lawmakers have voted to roll back a series of major tax cuts that became an example for conservative lawmakers around the country but didn't deliver the growth and prosperity promised by Gov. Sam Brownback, a Republican.


A coalition of conservative Republicans, some of whom voted for sweeping tax cuts in 2012 or defended them in the years since, sided with moderates and Democrats to override Brownback's veto of a $1.2 billion tax increase.


The law to increase taxes over the next two years comes as legislators seek to close a projected $900 million budget gap for that same period and bolster funding for K-12 schools under a Kansas Supreme Court order.


"It's a huge vote," said state Rep. Steven Johnson, a Republican and chairman of the House tax panel, adding that legislative leadership had explored many routes to find a tax solution that would gain sufficient support in both chambers. "It's a huge vote for looking for an option for Kansas among limited options."


Floor debates on taxes ran late into Tuesday evening, but in the end, 27 senators and 88 representatives rendered Brownback's veto — which had been handed down just hours earlier — irrelevant.


Passage of the tax bill brings to an end signature tax policies of the Brownback administration. Most of those policies were part of a 2012 law that exempted owners of more than 300,000 small businesses and became a political flashpoint in recent elections.​

Actually that's not what happened. The tax cuts worked. Just last year it resulted in 20k jobs. And the budget was within a couple items of being balanced with a surplus this year. But since it's easier to raise taxes than cut the people sending you campaign money...the voters get screwed with 1.2 billion in new taxes. Yay.

Black is actually white, and white is actually black........

 

[RodISHI]

Another Republican fail....and they still think this is going to work on a national level? My own state, which has significant budgetary problems and a new Republican majority is looking at the same sort of legislation

Kansas Tax Cut Experiment Comes To An End As Lawmakers Vote To Raise Taxes

Kansas lawmakers have voted to roll back a series of major tax cuts that became an example for conservative lawmakers around the country but didn't deliver the growth and prosperity promised by Gov. Sam Brownback, a Republican.


A coalition of conservative Republicans, some of whom voted for sweeping tax cuts in 2012 or defended them in the years since, sided with moderates and Democrats to override Brownback's veto of a $1.2 billion tax increase.


The law to increase taxes over the next two years comes as legislators seek to close a projected $900 million budget gap for that same period and bolster funding for K-12 schools under a Kansas Supreme Court order.


"It's a huge vote," said state Rep. Steven Johnson, a Republican and chairman of the House tax panel, adding that legislative leadership had explored many routes to find a tax solution that would gain sufficient support in both chambers. "It's a huge vote for looking for an option for Kansas among limited options."


Floor debates on taxes ran late into Tuesday evening, but in the end, 27 senators and 88 representatives rendered Brownback's veto — which had been handed down just hours earlier — irrelevant.


Passage of the tax bill brings to an end signature tax policies of the Brownback administration. Most of those policies were part of a 2012 law that exempted owners of more than 300,000 small businesses and became a political flashpoint in recent elections.​

Why don't they just do like California and spend money they don't have and kick the can down the road?

Decades of taxing and spending and spending and taxing, and a 5 year attempt to try to stop that is lambasted as a "failure"

Five years is enough time to see a turn around.

If they did not adjust their government budget it wouldn't do any good. People and enterprise cannot survive in an area that is overburdened by taxes. Our system of government was never intended for government employees to get richer and more benefits than the average worker.

 

[JBond]

Another Republican fail....and they still think this is going to work on a national level? My own state, which has significant budgetary problems and a new Republican majority is looking at the same sort of legislation

Kansas Tax Cut Experiment Comes To An End As Lawmakers Vote To Raise Taxes

Kansas lawmakers have voted to roll back a series of major tax cuts that became an example for conservative lawmakers around the country but didn't deliver the growth and prosperity promised by Gov. Sam Brownback, a Republican.


A coalition of conservative Republicans, some of whom voted for sweeping tax cuts in 2012 or defended them in the years since, sided with moderates and Democrats to override Brownback's veto of a $1.2 billion tax increase.


The law to increase taxes over the next two years comes as legislators seek to close a projected $900 million budget gap for that same period and bolster funding for K-12 schools under a Kansas Supreme Court order.


"It's a huge vote," said state Rep. Steven Johnson, a Republican and chairman of the House tax panel, adding that legislative leadership had explored many routes to find a tax solution that would gain sufficient support in both chambers. "It's a huge vote for looking for an option for Kansas among limited options."


Floor debates on taxes ran late into Tuesday evening, but in the end, 27 senators and 88 representatives rendered Brownback's veto — which had been handed down just hours earlier — irrelevant.


Passage of the tax bill brings to an end signature tax policies of the Brownback administration. Most of those policies were part of a 2012 law that exempted owners of more than 300,000 small businesses and became a political flashpoint in recent elections.​

You posted a bunch of crap. Idiotic talking points created by greedy big spenders. Sometimes in Kansas, anyone with an R next their name can get elected. A bunch of Rino's moved into the statehouse this past election.

Revenue from income tax was barely affected. Total drop was only 1.5% of the budget.

I live in Kanas and understand exactly what happened. Here is the truth about the revenue shortfall. Please read both links if you are interested in facts. Liberals, carry on with your lunatic ranting.

Oil, farming suppress sales tax collections

The Kansas Tax Cuts Are Not to Blame for Revenue Woes

 

[JBond]

Kansas lawmakers didn't cut spending; their problem wasn't insufficient revenue, it was too much spending on Medicaid, the pensions system, and education. Much of the blame for that goes to the moderate Repubs who lacked the balls to do the right thing. Or maybe their state Supreme Court wouldn't let them do it.

And there you have it......it is never a revenue problem...it is always, always a spending problem......the democrats will spend every single penny you give them and use up every credit card they have....and still say the republicans are mean....

They did cut spending...Fail

They sold off assets until there were no more to sell...Fail

It was the Republicans that cast the votes to over ride the veto, with the support of the majority of the citizens...Fail

Not only are you an economic illiterate, you can't read either.

What does it feel like to be completely wrong? You have no idea what happened.

 

[JBond]

Another Republican fail....and they still think this is going to work on a national level? My own state, which has significant budgetary problems and a new Republican majority is looking at the same sort of legislation

Kansas Tax Cut Experiment Comes To An End As Lawmakers Vote To Raise Taxes

Kansas lawmakers have voted to roll back a series of major tax cuts that became an example for conservative lawmakers around the country but didn't deliver the growth and prosperity promised by Gov. Sam Brownback, a Republican.


A coalition of conservative Republicans, some of whom voted for sweeping tax cuts in 2012 or defended them in the years since, sided with moderates and Democrats to override Brownback's veto of a $1.2 billion tax increase.


The law to increase taxes over the next two years comes as legislators seek to close a projected $900 million budget gap for that same period and bolster funding for K-12 schools under a Kansas Supreme Court order.


"It's a huge vote," said state Rep. Steven Johnson, a Republican and chairman of the House tax panel, adding that legislative leadership had explored many routes to find a tax solution that would gain sufficient support in both chambers. "It's a huge vote for looking for an option for Kansas among limited options."


Floor debates on taxes ran late into Tuesday evening, but in the end, 27 senators and 88 representatives rendered Brownback's veto — which had been handed down just hours earlier — irrelevant.


Passage of the tax bill brings to an end signature tax policies of the Brownback administration. Most of those policies were part of a 2012 law that exempted owners of more than 300,000 small businesses and became a political flashpoint in recent elections.​

Why don't they just do like California and spend money they don't have and kick the can down the road?

Decades of taxing and spending and spending and taxing, and a 5 year attempt to try to stop that is lambasted as a "failure"

California is a looming disaster...it's inevitable

The topic is the KS failure. And repubs want to do the same on a national level.

Another clueless parrot. Learn how to think on your own and stop parroting people that are 100% wrong.

 

[JBond]

Another Republican fail....and they still think this is going to work on a national level? My own state, which has significant budgetary problems and a new Republican majority is looking at the same sort of legislation

Kansas Tax Cut Experiment Comes To An End As Lawmakers Vote To Raise Taxes

Kansas lawmakers have voted to roll back a series of major tax cuts that became an example for conservative lawmakers around the country but didn't deliver the growth and prosperity promised by Gov. Sam Brownback, a Republican.


A coalition of conservative Republicans, some of whom voted for sweeping tax cuts in 2012 or defended them in the years since, sided with moderates and Democrats to override Brownback's veto of a $1.2 billion tax increase.


The law to increase taxes over the next two years comes as legislators seek to close a projected $900 million budget gap for that same period and bolster funding for K-12 schools under a Kansas Supreme Court order.


"It's a huge vote," said state Rep. Steven Johnson, a Republican and chairman of the House tax panel, adding that legislative leadership had explored many routes to find a tax solution that would gain sufficient support in both chambers. "It's a huge vote for looking for an option for Kansas among limited options."


Floor debates on taxes ran late into Tuesday evening, but in the end, 27 senators and 88 representatives rendered Brownback's veto — which had been handed down just hours earlier — irrelevant.


Passage of the tax bill brings to an end signature tax policies of the Brownback administration. Most of those policies were part of a 2012 law that exempted owners of more than 300,000 small businesses and became a political flashpoint in recent elections.​

Why don't they just do like California and spend money they don't have and kick the can down the road?

Decades of taxing and spending and spending and taxing, and a 5 year attempt to try to stop that is lambasted as a "failure"

California is a looming disaster...it's inevitable

A trillion in unfunded liabities, and they just passed a $400 billion unfunded health plan. Morons.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Another Republican fail....and they still think this is going to work on a national level? My own state, which has significant budgetary problems and a new Republican majority is looking at the same sort of legislation

Kansas Tax Cut Experiment Comes To An End As Lawmakers Vote To Raise Taxes

Kansas lawmakers have voted to roll back a series of major tax cuts that became an example for conservative lawmakers around the country but didn't deliver the growth and prosperity promised by Gov. Sam Brownback, a Republican.


A coalition of conservative Republicans, some of whom voted for sweeping tax cuts in 2012 or defended them in the years since, sided with moderates and Democrats to override Brownback's veto of a $1.2 billion tax increase.


The law to increase taxes over the next two years comes as legislators seek to close a projected $900 million budget gap for that same period and bolster funding for K-12 schools under a Kansas Supreme Court order.


"It's a huge vote," said state Rep. Steven Johnson, a Republican and chairman of the House tax panel, adding that legislative leadership had explored many routes to find a tax solution that would gain sufficient support in both chambers. "It's a huge vote for looking for an option for Kansas among limited options."


Floor debates on taxes ran late into Tuesday evening, but in the end, 27 senators and 88 representatives rendered Brownback's veto — which had been handed down just hours earlier — irrelevant.


Passage of the tax bill brings to an end signature tax policies of the Brownback administration. Most of those policies were part of a 2012 law that exempted owners of more than 300,000 small businesses and became a political flashpoint in recent elections.​

You posted a bunch of crap. Idiotic talking points created by greedy big spenders. Sometimes in Kansas, anyone with an R next their name can get elected. A bunch of Rino's moved into the statehouse this past election.

Revenue from income tax was barely affected. Total drop was only 1.5% of the budget.

I live in Kanas and understand exactly what happened. Here is the truth about the revenue shortfall. Please read both links if you are interested in facts. Liberals, carry on with your lunatic ranting.

Oil, farming suppress sales tax collections

The Kansas Tax Cuts Are Not to Blame for Revenue Woes

Interesting and makes sense. Too bad for you the loons won't read it

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Another Republican fail....and they still think this is going to work on a national level? My own state, which has significant budgetary problems and a new Republican majority is looking at the same sort of legislation

Kansas Tax Cut Experiment Comes To An End As Lawmakers Vote To Raise Taxes

Kansas lawmakers have voted to roll back a series of major tax cuts that became an example for conservative lawmakers around the country but didn't deliver the growth and prosperity promised by Gov. Sam Brownback, a Republican.


A coalition of conservative Republicans, some of whom voted for sweeping tax cuts in 2012 or defended them in the years since, sided with moderates and Democrats to override Brownback's veto of a $1.2 billion tax increase.


The law to increase taxes over the next two years comes as legislators seek to close a projected $900 million budget gap for that same period and bolster funding for K-12 schools under a Kansas Supreme Court order.


"It's a huge vote," said state Rep. Steven Johnson, a Republican and chairman of the House tax panel, adding that legislative leadership had explored many routes to find a tax solution that would gain sufficient support in both chambers. "It's a huge vote for looking for an option for Kansas among limited options."


Floor debates on taxes ran late into Tuesday evening, but in the end, 27 senators and 88 representatives rendered Brownback's veto — which had been handed down just hours earlier — irrelevant.


Passage of the tax bill brings to an end signature tax policies of the Brownback administration. Most of those policies were part of a 2012 law that exempted owners of more than 300,000 small businesses and became a political flashpoint in recent elections.​

Actually that's not what happened. The tax cuts worked. Just last year it resulted in 20k jobs. And the budget was within a couple items of being balanced with a surplus this year. But since it's easier to raise taxes than cut the people sending you campaign money...the voters get screwed with 1.2 billion in new taxes. Yay.

Black is actually white, and white is actually black........

Of course. If the government can't have your share of 1.2 billion dollars how will they ever get by? Never mind it's wasted on bullshit. Dammit they need that money.

 

[JBond]

Another Republican fail....and they still think this is going to work on a national level? My own state, which has significant budgetary problems and a new Republican majority is looking at the same sort of legislation

Kansas Tax Cut Experiment Comes To An End As Lawmakers Vote To Raise Taxes

Kansas lawmakers have voted to roll back a series of major tax cuts that became an example for conservative lawmakers around the country but didn't deliver the growth and prosperity promised by Gov. Sam Brownback, a Republican.


A coalition of conservative Republicans, some of whom voted for sweeping tax cuts in 2012 or defended them in the years since, sided with moderates and Democrats to override Brownback's veto of a $1.2 billion tax increase.


The law to increase taxes over the next two years comes as legislators seek to close a projected $900 million budget gap for that same period and bolster funding for K-12 schools under a Kansas Supreme Court order.


"It's a huge vote," said state Rep. Steven Johnson, a Republican and chairman of the House tax panel, adding that legislative leadership had explored many routes to find a tax solution that would gain sufficient support in both chambers. "It's a huge vote for looking for an option for Kansas among limited options."


Floor debates on taxes ran late into Tuesday evening, but in the end, 27 senators and 88 representatives rendered Brownback's veto — which had been handed down just hours earlier — irrelevant.


Passage of the tax bill brings to an end signature tax policies of the Brownback administration. Most of those policies were part of a 2012 law that exempted owners of more than 300,000 small businesses and became a political flashpoint in recent elections.​

You posted a bunch of crap. Idiotic talking points created by greedy big spenders. Sometimes in Kansas, anyone with an R next their name can get elected. A bunch of Rino's moved into the statehouse this past election.

Revenue from income tax was barely affected. Total drop was only 1.5% of the budget.

I live in Kanas and understand exactly what happened. Here is the truth about the revenue shortfall. Please read both links if you are interested in facts. Liberals, carry on with your lunatic ranting.

Oil, farming suppress sales tax collections

The Kansas Tax Cuts Are Not to Blame for Revenue Woes

Interesting and makes sense. Too bad for you the loons won't read it

I know. I have to try through. The BS was getting deep.

 

[boedicca]

Tax cuts don't work unless spending and regulation are also reduced.

 

[JBond]

Tax cuts don't work unless spending and regulation are also reduced.

Fail.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Another Republican fail....and they still think this is going to work on a national level? My own state, which has significant budgetary problems and a new Republican majority is looking at the same sort of legislation

Kansas Tax Cut Experiment Comes To An End As Lawmakers Vote To Raise Taxes

Kansas lawmakers have voted to roll back a series of major tax cuts that became an example for conservative lawmakers around the country but didn't deliver the growth and prosperity promised by Gov. Sam Brownback, a Republican.


A coalition of conservative Republicans, some of whom voted for sweeping tax cuts in 2012 or defended them in the years since, sided with moderates and Democrats to override Brownback's veto of a $1.2 billion tax increase.


The law to increase taxes over the next two years comes as legislators seek to close a projected $900 million budget gap for that same period and bolster funding for K-12 schools under a Kansas Supreme Court order.


"It's a huge vote," said state Rep. Steven Johnson, a Republican and chairman of the House tax panel, adding that legislative leadership had explored many routes to find a tax solution that would gain sufficient support in both chambers. "It's a huge vote for looking for an option for Kansas among limited options."


Floor debates on taxes ran late into Tuesday evening, but in the end, 27 senators and 88 representatives rendered Brownback's veto — which had been handed down just hours earlier — irrelevant.


Passage of the tax bill brings to an end signature tax policies of the Brownback administration. Most of those policies were part of a 2012 law that exempted owners of more than 300,000 small businesses and became a political flashpoint in recent elections.​

You posted a bunch of crap. Idiotic talking points created by greedy big spenders. Sometimes in Kansas, anyone with an R next their name can get elected. A bunch of Rino's moved into the statehouse this past election.

Revenue from income tax was barely affected. Total drop was only 1.5% of the budget.

I live in Kanas and understand exactly what happened. Here is the truth about the revenue shortfall. Please read both links if you are interested in facts. Liberals, carry on with your lunatic ranting.

Oil, farming suppress sales tax collections

The Kansas Tax Cuts Are Not to Blame for Revenue Woes

Interesting and makes sense. Too bad for you the loons won't read it

I know. I have to try through. The BS was getting deep.

I noticed in your link education spending is out of control. Districts losing students but hiring is way up.

 

[JBond]

Another Republican fail....and they still think this is going to work on a national level? My own state, which has significant budgetary problems and a new Republican majority is looking at the same sort of legislation

Kansas Tax Cut Experiment Comes To An End As Lawmakers Vote To Raise Taxes

Kansas lawmakers have voted to roll back a series of major tax cuts that became an example for conservative lawmakers around the country but didn't deliver the growth and prosperity promised by Gov. Sam Brownback, a Republican.


A coalition of conservative Republicans, some of whom voted for sweeping tax cuts in 2012 or defended them in the years since, sided with moderates and Democrats to override Brownback's veto of a $1.2 billion tax increase.


The law to increase taxes over the next two years comes as legislators seek to close a projected $900 million budget gap for that same period and bolster funding for K-12 schools under a Kansas Supreme Court order.


"It's a huge vote," said state Rep. Steven Johnson, a Republican and chairman of the House tax panel, adding that legislative leadership had explored many routes to find a tax solution that would gain sufficient support in both chambers. "It's a huge vote for looking for an option for Kansas among limited options."


Floor debates on taxes ran late into Tuesday evening, but in the end, 27 senators and 88 representatives rendered Brownback's veto — which had been handed down just hours earlier — irrelevant.


Passage of the tax bill brings to an end signature tax policies of the Brownback administration. Most of those policies were part of a 2012 law that exempted owners of more than 300,000 small businesses and became a political flashpoint in recent elections.​

Yes......raise taxes.....see what that does.......morons. Illinois raises taxes and it is a dead state......

Actually I prefer a more balanced approach them simplistic - CUT TAXES or SPEND MORE when you have one side screaming it's all about cutting taxes and giving more to the rich and the other side screaming it's all about throwing more money at it and that will fix everything.

Did you read my links? The shortfall had virtually nothing to do with income tax.