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Federal Judge To Wisconsin: You Know 'Traditional' Marriage Was Polygamy, Right?
The federal judge who struck down Wisconsin's gay marriage ban thinks state officials have a thing or two to learn about the history of marriage as a social institution.
"As an initial matter, defendants and amici have overstated their argument. Throughout history, the most 'traditional' form of marriage has not been between one man and one woman, but between one man and multiple women, which presumably is not a tradition that defendants and amici would like to continue," Crabb wrote in her opinion.
I don't know where this judge received her information but most people throughout history could not afford more than one spouse and in mot societies it is a one for one pairing. Polygamy or polyandry were done from necessity but were not the norm throughout history.
That judge needs to provide proof on this one.
The woman is naturally an idiot. Yes, some societies and cultures have polygamy as a traditional form of marriage.
But for 2000 years in the West marriage has been one man and one woman. If 2000 years does not constitute a tradition I am not sure what does.
The woman is naturally an idiot. Yes, some societies and cultures have polygamy as a traditional form of marriage.
But for 2000 years in the West marriage has been one man and one woman. If 2000 years does not constitute a tradition I am not sure what does.
The woman is naturally an idiot. Yes, some societies and cultures have polygamy as a traditional form of marriage.
But for 2000 years in the West marriage has been one man and one woman. If 2000 years does not constitute a tradition I am not sure what does.
Your argument seems specious at best. Polygamy is part and parcel of the Old Testament. Are you saying that doesn't qualify as a tradition?
The woman is naturally an idiot. Yes, some societies and cultures have polygamy as a traditional form of marriage.
But for 2000 years in the West marriage has been one man and one woman. If 2000 years does not constitute a tradition I am not sure what does.
Your argument seems specious at best. Polygamy is part and parcel of the Old Testament. Are you saying that doesn't qualify as a tradition?
It is a tradition, yes. But it is not our tradition. Our tradition in Western Europe, of which we are part, is one man one woman. That is a 2000 year old tradition.
The woman is naturally an idiot. Yes, some societies and cultures have polygamy as a traditional form of marriage.
But for 2000 years in the West marriage has been one man and one woman. If 2000 years does not constitute a tradition I am not sure what does.
Your argument seems specious at best. Polygamy is part and parcel of the Old Testament. Are you saying that doesn't qualify as a tradition?
It is a tradition, yes. But it is not our tradition. Our tradition in Western Europe, of which we are part, is one man one woman. That is a 2000 year old tradition.
Your argument seems specious at best. Polygamy is part and parcel of the Old Testament. Are you saying that doesn't qualify as a tradition?
It is a tradition, yes. But it is not our tradition. Our tradition in Western Europe, of which we are part, is one man one woman. That is a 2000 year old tradition.
Who says OUR tradition is Western Europe? Americans come from all over the world.
Your argument seems specious at best. Polygamy is part and parcel of the Old Testament. Are you saying that doesn't qualify as a tradition?
It is a tradition, yes. But it is not our tradition. Our tradition in Western Europe, of which we are part, is one man one woman. That is a 2000 year old tradition.
So then we are NOT a Biblically based society and the Old Testament has it all wrong?
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Fortunately no one is arguing that homosexual marriages are any kind of tradition.
Fortunately no one is arguing that homosexual marriages are any kind of tradition.
They don't have to. Tradition by itself is not a relevant argument for or against anything.
The woman is naturally an idiot. Yes, some societies and cultures have polygamy as a traditional form of marriage.
But for 2000 years in the West marriage has been one man and one woman. If 2000 years does not constitute a tradition I am not sure what does.
Your argument seems specious at best. Polygamy is part and parcel of the Old Testament. Are you saying that doesn't qualify as a tradition?
It is a tradition, yes. But it is not our tradition. Our tradition in Western Europe, of which we are part, is one man one woman. That is a 2000 year old tradition.
Your argument seems specious at best. Polygamy is part and parcel of the Old Testament. Are you saying that doesn't qualify as a tradition?
It is a tradition, yes. But it is not our tradition. Our tradition in Western Europe, of which we are part, is one man one woman. That is a 2000 year old tradition.
Who says OUR tradition is Western Europe? Americans come from all over the world.
It is a tradition, yes. But it is not our tradition. Our tradition in Western Europe, of which we are part, is one man one woman. That is a 2000 year old tradition.
Who says OUR tradition is Western Europe? Americans come from all over the world.
Everyone says that. Regardless of where people come from, the Founders were heirs to the enlightenment. Our government is based on Enlightenment ideals and our laws reflect the traditions of Western Europe, especially Britain. To deny that is silly.
Your argument seems specious at best. Polygamy is part and parcel of the Old Testament. Are you saying that doesn't qualify as a tradition?
It is a tradition, yes. But it is not our tradition. Our tradition in Western Europe, of which we are part, is one man one woman. That is a 2000 year old tradition.
That too is a fallacious assumption. We are not bound by 'western European' traditions, nor should we be. We are supposed to be bound, if we are bound at all, to the fundamental principles of democratic society,
and such principles would not exclude same sex couples from a right to marriage that opposite sex couples have.
Who says OUR tradition is Western Europe? Americans come from all over the world.
Everyone says that. Regardless of where people come from, the Founders were heirs to the enlightenment. Our government is based on Enlightenment ideals and our laws reflect the traditions of Western Europe, especially Britain. To deny that is silly.
Charlemagne had multiple wives. Monogamy as a standard is actually much less than 2,000 years old. Apparently your knowledge of Western tradition isn't as comprehensive as you think.
It is a tradition, yes. But it is not our tradition. Our tradition in Western Europe, of which we are part, is one man one woman. That is a 2000 year old tradition.
Who says OUR tradition is Western Europe? Americans come from all over the world.
American traditions based on Western European values???
WHAT A SILLY IDEA!
Everyone knows that the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights and the entire system was based on verbal traditions of the so-called Native Americans, judiciously mixed with Muslim Sharia law, teachings of Confucius and the wisdom of African culture.
