Jews As The Chosen People

[Viktor]

Sure they think they are. Also they are only chosen in their eyes, and to be frank the jews never were one people, you had Northern Israel, Samaria, and Judah. There are no pure bred jews, they don't even know if they are a culture or a religion.

Rome had no choice but to go in a squash the civil war.

Jews are not a race.

 

[zaangalewa]

So "Viktor", "Penelope", "danielpalos", "caddo kid" are antisemites. The "Sage of Main Street" is an Antichristian, "Sparky" is a racist, "Picaro" an antisemite and an antichristian and "ding" is an idiot. Together they are US-Americans, who try to destroy gods own country and the western world.

I'm Jewish.

So what? I did not say that a Jew is not able to be shame for the chosen people of god. Why is a Jew an Anti-Semite? This makes not a big sense, isn't it?

----- Psalm 118 (hebrew, greek) / 119 (others)

Aleph: Blessed are those whose way is blameless, who walk in the law of the Lord!
Blessed are those who keep his testimonies, who seek him with their whole heart,
who also do no wrong, but walk in his ways!
You have commanded your precepts to be kept diligently.
Oh that my ways may be steadfast in keeping your statutes!
Then I shall not be put to shame, having my eyes fixed on all your commandments.
I will praise you with an upright heart, when I learn your righteous rules.
I will keep your statutes; do not utterly forsake me!
Beth: How can a young man keep his way pure? By guarding it according to your word.
With my whole heart I seek you; let me not wander from your commandments!
I have stored up your word in my heart, that I might not sin against you.
Blessed are you, O Lord; teach me your statutes!
With my lips I declare all the rules of your mouth.
In the way of your testimonies I delight as much as in all riches.
I will meditate on your precepts and fix my eyes on your ways.
I will delight in your statutes; I will not forget your word.
Gimel: Deal bountifully with your servant, that I may live and keep your word.
Open my eyes, that I may behold wondrous things out of your law.
I am a sojourner on the earth; hide not your commandments from me!
My soul is consumed with longing for your rules at all times.
You rebuke the insolent, accursed ones, who wander from your commandments.
Take away from me scorn and contempt, for I have kept your testimonies.
Even though princes sit plotting against me, your servant will meditate on your statutes.
Your testimonies are my delight; they are my counselors.
Daleth: My soul clings to the dust; give me life according to your word!
When I told of my ways, you answered me; teach me your statutes!
Make me understand the way of your precepts, and I will meditate on your wondrous works.
My soul melts away for sorrow; strengthen me according to your word!
Put false ways far from me and graciously teach me your law!
I have chosen the way of faithfulness; I set your rules before me.
I cling to your testimonies, O Lord; let me not be put to shame!
I will run in the way of your commandments when you enlarge my heart!
He: Teach me, O Lord, the way of your statutes; and I will keep it to the end.
Give me understanding, that I may keep your law and observe it with my whole heart.
Lead me in the path of your commandments, for I delight in it.
Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!
Turn my eyes from looking at worthless things; and give me life in your ways.
Confirm to your servant your promise, that you may be feared.
Turn away the reproach that I dread, for your rules are good.
Behold, I long for your precepts; in your righteousness give me life!
Waw: Let your steadfast love come to me, O Lord, your salvation according to your promise;
then shall I have an answer for him who taunts me, for I trust in your word.
And take not the word of truth utterly out of my mouth, for my hope is in your rules.
I will keep your law continually, forever and ever,
and I shall walk in a wide place, for I have sought your precepts.
I will also speak of your testimonies before kings and shall not be put to shame,
for I find my delight in your commandments, which I love.
I will lift up my hands toward your commandments, which I love, and I will meditate on your statutes.
Zayin: Remember your word to your servant, in which you have made me hope.
This is my comfort in my affliction, that your promise gives me life.
The insolent utterly deride me, but I do not turn away from your law.
When I think of your rules from of old, I take comfort, O Lord.
Hot indignation seizes me because of the wicked, who forsake your law.
Your statutes have been my songs in the house of my sojourning.
I remember your name in the night, O Lord, and keep your law.
This blessing has fallen to me, that I have kept your precepts.
Heth: The Lord is my portion; I promise to keep your words.
I entreat your favor with all my heart; be gracious to me according to your promise.
When I think on my ways, I turn my feet to your testimonies;
I hasten and do not delay to keep your commandments.
Though the cords of the wicked ensnare me, I do not forget your law.
At midnight I rise to praise you, because of your righteous rules.
I am a companion of all who fear you, of those who keep your precepts.
The earth, O Lord, is full of your steadfast love; teach me your statutes!
Teth: You have dealt well with your servant, O Lord, according to your word.
Teach me good judgment and knowledge, for I believe in your commandments.
Before I was afflicted I went astray, but now I keep your word.
You are good and do good; teach me your statutes.
The insolent smear me with lies, but with my whole heart I keep your precepts;
their heart is unfeeling like fat, but I delight in your law.
It is good for me that I was afflicted, that I might learn your statutes.
The law of your mouth is better to me than thousands of gold and silver pieces.
Yodh: Your hands have made and fashioned me; give me understanding that I may learn your commandments.
Those who fear you shall see me and rejoice, because I have hoped in your word.
I know, O Lord, that your rules are righteous, and that in faithfulness you have afflicted me.
Let your steadfast love comfort me according to your promise to your servant.
Let your mercy come to me, that I may live; for your law is my delight.
Let the insolent be put to shame, because they have wronged me with falsehood; as for me, I will meditate on your precepts.
Let those who fear you turn to me, that they may know your testimonies.
May my heart be blameless in your statutes, that I may not be put to shame!
Kaph: My soul longs for your salvation; I hope in your word.
My eyes long for your promise; I ask, “When will you comfort me?”
For I have become like a wineskin in the smoke, yet I have not forgotten your statutes.
How long must your servant endure? When will you judge those who persecute me?
The insolent have dug pitfalls for me; they do not live according to your law.
All your commandments are sure; they persecute me with falsehood; help me!
They have almost made an end of me on earth, but I have not forsaken your precepts.
In your steadfast love give me life, that I may keep the testimonies of your mouth.
Lamedh: Forever, O Lord, your word is firmly fixed in the heavens.
Your faithfulness endures to all generations; you have established the earth, and it stands fast.
By your appointment they stand this day, for all things are your servants.
If your law had not been my delight, I would have perished in my affliction.
I will never forget your precepts, for by them you have given me life.
I am yours; save me, for I have sought your precepts.
The wicked lie in wait to destroy me, but I consider your testimonies.
I have seen a limit to all perfection, but your commandment is exceedingly broad.
Mem: Oh how I love your law! It is my meditation all the day.
Your commandment makes me wiser than my enemies, for it is ever with me.
I have more understanding than all my teachers, for your testimonies are my meditation.
I understand more than the aged, for I keep your precepts.
I hold back my feet from every evil way, in order to keep your word.
I do not turn aside from your rules, for you have taught me.
How sweet are your words to my taste, sweeter than honey to my mouth!
Through your precepts I get understanding; therefore I hate every false way.
Nun: Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path.
I have sworn an oath and confirmed it, to keep your righteous rules.
I am severely afflicted; give me life, O Lord, according to your word!
Accept my freewill offerings of praise, O Lord, and teach me your rules.
I hold my life in my hand continually, but I do not forget your law.
The wicked have laid a snare for me, but I do not stray from your precepts.
Your testimonies are my heritage forever, for they are the joy of my heart.
I incline my heart to perform your statutes forever, to the end.
Samekh: I hate the double-minded, but I love your law.
You are my hiding place and my shield; I hope in your word.
Depart from me, you evildoers, that I may keep the commandments of my God.
Uphold me according to your promise, that I may live, and let me not be put to shame in my hope!
Hold me up, that I may be safe and have regard for your statutes continually!
You spurn all who go astray from your statutes, for their cunning is in vain.
All the wicked of the earth you discard like dross, therefore I love your testimonies.
My flesh trembles for fear of you, and I am afraid of your judgments.
Ayin: I have done what is just and right; do not leave me to my oppressors.
Give your servant a pledge of good; let not the insolent oppress me.
My eyes long for your salvation and for the fulfillment of your righteous promise.
Deal with your servant according to your steadfast love, and teach me your statutes.
I am your servant; give me understanding, that I may know your testimonies!
It is time for the Lord to act, for your law has been broken.
Therefore I love your commandments above gold, above fine gold.
Therefore I consider all your precepts to be right; I hate every false way.
Pe: Your testimonies are wonderful; therefore my soul keeps them.
The unfolding of your words gives light; it imparts understanding to the simple.
I open my mouth and pant, because I long for your commandments.
Turn to me and be gracious to me, as is your way with those who love your name.
Keep steady my steps according to your promise, and let no iniquity get dominion over me.
Redeem me from man’s oppression, that I may keep your precepts.
Make your face shine upon your servant, and teach me your statutes.
My eyes shed streams of tears, because people do not keep your law.
Tsadhe: Righteous are you, O Lord, and right are your rules.
You have appointed your testimonies in righteousness and in all faithfulness.
My zeal consumes me, because my foes forget your words.
Your promise is well tried, and your servant loves it.
I am small and despised, yet I do not forget your precepts.
Your righteousness is righteous forever, and your law is true.
Trouble and anguish have found me out, but your commandments are my delight.
Your testimonies are righteous forever; give me understanding that I may live.
Qoph: With my whole heart I cry; answer me, O Lord! I will keep your statutes.
I call to you; save me, that I may observe your testimonies.
I rise before dawn and cry for help; I hope in your words.
My eyes are awake before the watches of the night, that I may meditate on your promise.
Hear my voice according to your steadfast love; O Lord, according to your justice give me life.
They draw near who persecute me with evil purpose; they are far from your law.
But you are near, O Lord, and all your commandments are true.
Long have I known from your testimonies that you have founded them forever.
Resh: Look on my affliction and deliver me, for I do not forget your law.
Plead my cause and redeem me; give me life according to your promise!
Salvation is far from the wicked, for they do not seek your statutes.
Great is your mercy, O Lord; give me life according to your rules.
Many are my persecutors and my adversaries, but I do not swerve from your testimonies.
I look at the faithless with disgust, because they do not keep your commands.
Consider how I love your precepts! Give me life according to your steadfast love.
The sum of your word is truth, and every one of your righteous rules endures forever.
Sin and Shin: Princes persecute me without cause, but my heart stands in awe of your words.
I rejoice at your word like one who finds great spoil.
I hate and abhor falsehood, but I love your law.
Seven times a day I praise you for your righteous rules.
Great peace have those who love your law; nothing can make them stumble.
I hope for your salvation, O Lord, and I do your commandments.
My soul keeps your testimonies; I love them exceedingly.
I keep your precepts and testimonies, for all my ways are before you.
Taw: Let my cry come before you, O Lord; give me understanding according to your word!
Let my plea come before you; deliver me according to your word.
My lips will pour forth praise, for you teach me your statutes.
My tongue will sing of your word, for all your commandments are right.
Let your hand be ready to help me, for I have chosen your precepts.
I long for your salvation, O Lord, and your law is my delight.
Let my soul live and praise you, and let your rules help me.
I have gone astray like a lost sheep; seek your servant, for I do not forget your commandments.
-----

 

[Picaro]

So "Viktor", "Penelope", "danielpalos", "caddo kid" are antisemites. The "Sage of Main Street" is an Antichristian, "Sparky" is a racist, "Picaro" an antisemite and an antichristian and "ding" is an idiot. Together they are US-Americans, who try to destroy gods own country and the western world.

I'm Jewish.

My grandparents on my father's side were, ethnically; they weren't Jewish religiously or culturally. They were agnostic.

You can ignore zaang, he's a crank. Penelope sees Jews under her bed every night, and holds them responsible for micro-managing the entire planet and everyone in it. No one would ever have a bad day if it weren't for Jews.

 

[fncceo]

I'm Jewish and I was never raised to believe I was better than anyone else, but ...

... after reading these posts, I'm beginning to question that proposition.

 

[Picaro]

I'm Jewish and I was never raised to believe I was better than anyone else, but ...

... after reading these posts, I'm beginning to question that proposition.

Many aren't, some are. The latter make the most noise, and the more virulently racist sects are growing again, now around 10%-12% according to some estimates. The IDF is making the mistake of drafting them now, which is bound to blow up in their faces.

 

[zaangalewa]

So "Viktor", "Penelope", "danielpalos", "caddo kid" are antisemites. The "Sage of Main Street" is an Antichristian, "Sparky" is a racist, "Picaro" an antisemite and an antichristian and "ding" is an idiot. Together they are US-Americans, who try to destroy gods own country and the western world.

I'm Jewish.

My grandparents on my father's side were, ethnically;

So your father was a Jew and you are not a Jew.

they weren't Jewish religiously or culturally. They were agnostic.

To be an agnostics is a philosophy and has nothing to do with any form of spiritual belief. I'm an agnostics too. And atheism is by the way also a spiritual belief.

You can ignore zaang, he's a crank.

I'm a what? Aha "ein wunderlicher Kauz" - in this translation it is not wrong what you say here. We call such people in our own language often "an original" (and not a cheap copy).

Penelope sees Jews under her bed every night, and holds them responsible for micro-managing the entire planet and everyone in it. No one would ever have a bad day if it weren't for Jews.

Oh by the way. If one of my grandmothers would had been a Jew (Perhaps she was, because the life under Adolf Hitler in Germany was a little complicate for Jews) - then I would be a Jew on my own. But I don't know. And the Lord choses whomever he likes to chose. In case of the Jews it's totally clear that Jews were the first people who met god and understood that there's only one god: god.

 

[sparky]

Sure they think they are. Also they are only chosen in their eyes, and to be frank the jews never were one people, you had Northern Israel, Samaria, and Judah. There are no pure bred jews, they don't even know if they are a culture or a religion.

They are chosen. In God's eyes. Make no mistake about that. Not because they are special, but because of God's covenants with His friend Abraham. To insure every tribe survives the tribulation, God is going to seal members from every tribe with a mark that prevents them from being killed, just like He did for Cain. God keeps His promises.
As for wanting to be the "chosen". No thank you. God steps in because ALL NATIONS come against Israel.
They are a culture and a religion. And a target.

Viktor, If the Jews think that the Muslims and Christians worship the same God, then they have missed the great big letters on the Dome of the Rock. GOD HAS NO SON. They also know that the Christian God, has a Son. He's a Jewish Rabbi.

To avoid centuries of power-enhancing persecution by clerical flunkies of the ruling classes, truly Christian theologians should have preached that the Jews were already saved from the time of Abraham, and that God sent His Son only to save the rest of us.

Sage, the problem is they would be preaching a lie. Because just the opposite is true.
Not one Jew was cleansed of their sin prior to Christ dying for their sake. Not even Abraham. Christ came to and did fulfill the Law for them. To be their Passover Lamb. He considered the rest of us dogs. When He relayed that attitude to a pagan woman that asked for His help, He actually used the dog reference. And makes it very clear who He came here to save:

The Faith of a Canaanite Woman
Leaving that place, Jesus withdrew to the region of Tyre and Sidon. A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, “Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is demon-possessed and suffering terribly.”

Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, “Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us.”

He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”

The woman came and knelt before him. “Lord, help me!” she said.

He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.”

“Yes it is, Lord,” she said. “Even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their master’s table.”

Then Jesus said to her, “Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted.” And her daughter was healed at that moment.

It was her faith that caused us to be grafted into the Jewish line.
Had the Jews accepted Christ, He would have returned from the dead and never left. He left to give Gentiles their own era or age of redemption. It is coming to an end.

I don't see the Jews of The Bible as being chosen; If they were then why would they deny the Messiah of The Bible?

Then you have pretty much missed the theme of the Bible. It is a chronicle of the Jews from beginning to end. The most important one being Jesus, the Christ. Christians are the Bride. Jews are the Chosen. Upon the return of Christ, it will be in Israel that His foot touches the earth again. And He will remain in Israel, for the Jews will realize that He is the Messiah. His name will be, The Lion of the Tribe of Judah. Refer to the above verses if you are still in doubt about who Christ came to save. "I was sent ONLY to the lost sheep of Israel". They were expecting a Lion and didn't realize they needed a Lamb first.

There ya go.

Upon the return of Christ, it will be in Israel that His foot touches the earth again.

Well i hope He remembers His hip boots.....~S~

 

[sparky]

In case of the Jews it's totally clear that Jews were the first people who met god and understood that there's only one god: god.

....by crucifying His son....

~S~

 

[sparky]

Sure they think they are. Also they are only chosen in their eyes, and to be frank the jews never were one people, you had Northern Israel, Samaria, and Judah. There are no pure bred jews, they don't even know if they are a culture or a religion.

Rome had no choice but to go in a squash the civil war.

Jews are not a race.

Irionically, nether are ISIS

~S~

 

[zaangalewa]

In case of the Jews it's totally clear that Jews were the first people who met god and understood that there's only one god: god.

....by crucifying His son....

~S~

No. A question: Why speaks everyone nonsense in the English speaking world without to think only a little on ones own? Believes everyone in your world he's able to tell everyone else nonsense and if someone else agrees then this nonsense is not nonsense any longer?

 

[sparky]

In case of the Jews it's totally clear that Jews were the first people who met god and understood that there's only one god: god.

....by crucifying His son....

~S~

No. A question: Why speaks everyone nonsense in the English speaking world without to think only a little on ones own? Believes everyone in your world he's able to tell everyone else nonsense and if someon else agrees then this nonsense is not nonsense any longer?

Easy
Beacuse i'm speaking TO the nonsensical , the irrational , the celestially challenged biblical boneheads

But hey , have a grand time in the front seat of the rapture bus when it comes to town

 

[Penelope]

On Saturday, October 20, 2018 at 1:25:01 PM UTC-7, Jews as the chosen people - Wikipedia



In Judaism, "chosenness" is the belief that the Jews, via descent from the ancient Israelites, are the chosen people, i.e. chosen to be in a covenant with God. The idea of the Israelites being chosen by God is found most directly in the Book of Deuteronomy[1][2] as the verb bahar (בָּחַ֣ר (Hebrew)), and is alluded to elsewhere in the Hebrew Bible using other terms such as "holy people".[3] Much is written about these topics in rabbinic literature. The three largest Jewish denominations—Orthodox Judaism, Conservative Judaism and Reform Judaism—maintain the belief that the Jews have been chosen by God for a purpose. Sometimes this choice is seen as charging the Jewish people with a specific mission—to be a light unto the nations, and to exemplify the covenant with God as described in the Torah.

This view, however, did not preclude a belief that God has a relationship with other peoples—rather, Judaism held that God had entered into a covenant with all humankind, and that Jews and non-Jews alike have a relationship with God. Biblical references as well as rabbinic literature support this view: Moses refers to the "God of the spirits of all flesh" (Numbers 27:16), and the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible) also identifies prophets outside the community of Israel. Based on these statements, some rabbis theorized that, in the words of Nethanel ibn Fayyumi, a Yemenite Jewish theologian of the 12th century, "God permitted to every people something he forbade to others...[and] God sends a prophet to every people according to their own language."(Levine, 1907/1966) The Mishnah states that "Humanity was produced from one man, Adam, to show God's greatness. When a man mints a coin in a press, each coin is identical. But when the King of Kings, the Holy One, blessed be He, creates people in the form of Adam not one is similar to any other." (Mishnah Sanhedrin 4:5) The Mishnah continues, and states that anyone who kills or saves a single human, not Jewish, life, has done the same (save or kill) to an entire world. The Tosefta, an important supplement to the Mishnah[4], also states: "Righteous people of all nations have a share in the world to come" (Sanhedrin 105a)


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> From Judaism 101:
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> Judaism 101: Jewish Attitudes Toward Non-Jews
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> "Judaism maintains that the righteous of all nations have a place in the world to come. This has been the majority rule since the days of the Talmud. Judaism generally recognizes that Christians and Moslems worship the same G-d that we do and those who follow the tenets of their religions can be considered righteous in the eyes of G-d.
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> Contrary to popular belief, Judaism does not maintain that Jews are better than other people."

The Most Divine Interpretation


To avoid centuries of power-enhancing persecution by clerical flunkies of the ruling classes, truly Christian theologians should have preached that the Jews were already saved from the time of Abraham, and that God sent His Son only to save the rest of us.

Well, if you are making some FAILED attempt at interpreting Scripture then you FAILED.

I'm a Jew, idiot.. We do not recognize the New Testament. Only a fool would quote it here.

I suspected you were, and you are right the maj of Jews do not recognize the NT. Save some Jews for Jesus. So they have to be called Christians.

Here is David Silverman the head of the American Atheist: An Atheist (jew) talking to other jews, in which they are not jews.

 

[fncceo]

I'll never under the fascination non-Jews have with Jews. It's almost as if they think we're magical.

You rarely ever see mutli-page threads on Bahai or Druids.

 

[sparky]

You rarely ever see mutli-page threads on Bahai or Druids.

Because they're not obsessed about themselves.

~S~

 

[Mindful]

I'll never under the fascination non-Jews have with Jews. It's almost as if they think we're magical.

You rarely ever see mutli-page threads on Bahai or Druids.

It's called Phylo semitism.

 

[Mindful]

You rarely ever see mutli-page threads on Bahai or Druids.

Because they're not obsessed about themselves.

~S~

You don't have to be Jewish to be self obsessed. Just look at this place.

 

[sparky]

True Mindful
maybe we could pass hat for group therapy?

~S~

 

[Mindful]

True Mindful
maybe we could pass hat for group therapy?

~S~

Not into that either.

 

[Penelope]

So "Viktor", "Penelope", "danielpalos", "caddo kid" are antisemites. The "Sage of Main Street" is an Antichristian, "Sparky" is a racist, "Picaro" an antisemite and an antichristian and "ding" is an idiot. Together they are US-Americans, who try to destroy gods own country and the western world.

I'm Jewish.

My grandparents on my father's side were, ethnically; they weren't Jewish religiously or culturally. They were agnostic.

You can ignore zaang, he's a crank. Penelope sees Jews under her bed every night, and holds them responsible for micro-managing the entire planet and everyone in it. No one would ever have a bad day if it weren't for Jews.

No one is under my bed, but they are only the chosen in their eyes. That takes a lot of conceitedness and arrogance which most of them have.

 

[Mindful]

So "Viktor", "Penelope", "danielpalos", "caddo kid" are antisemites. The "Sage of Main Street" is an Antichristian, "Sparky" is a racist, "Picaro" an antisemite and an antichristian and "ding" is an idiot. Together they are US-Americans, who try to destroy gods own country and the western world.

I'm Jewish.

My grandparents on my father's side were, ethnically; they weren't Jewish religiously or culturally. They were agnostic.

You can ignore zaang, he's a crank. Penelope sees Jews under her bed every night, and holds them responsible for micro-managing the entire planet and everyone in it. No one would ever have a bad day if it weren't for Jews.

No one is under my bed, but they are only the chosen in their eyes. That takes a lot of conceitedness and arrogance which most of them have.

Were you born that way? Or did you have to work on it?