Jane Fonda

[PoliticalChic]

So, you feel that communist.....er, government ....school has been successful in its purpose?


Franklin Roosevelt must be quite happy with himself, huh?

If you're going to be president might as well be the best.
Hard to believe that West Point, Annapolis, Coast Guard and Air Force Academy are communist. But you're never wrong. Of course, it was West Point graduate, MacArthur, that said the nation was founded on liberalism.

Gads, you're a dunce.

Classical liberalism, not the tyranny that now calls itself 'liberal.'


"Classical liberalism, the optimistic doctrine that gave us liberty, democracy, progress, was a moral project. It held that human society could always better itself by encouraging the good and diminishing the bad. It rested, therefore, on a very clear understanding that there was a higher cause than self-realization: that there were such things as right and wrong and that the former should be preferred over the latter.

But the belief that autonomous individuals had the right to make subjective judgment about what was right for them in pursuit of their unchallengeable entitlement to happiness destroyed that understanding. Progressives interpreted liberty as license, thus destroying the moral rules that make freedom a virtue."
Melanie Phillips




The nation, with a view to classical liberalism, was founded on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


None of these embrace that view:
Nazism
Progressivism
Modern liberalism
Communism
Fascsm
or
Socialism


Jot that down.

It's always amusing to see someone "define" their opponents in a negative way, especially when they quote people who agree with them and stand in stark opposition to "the other team." Perhaps we would all be better if we defined ourselves and not others. - me (lol)

Clearly you could find no way to dispute my post.

Perhaps you're a moron.

Could be?

So your "argument" is to call me names like a child on a schoolyard? I disputed the FACT that you feel entitled to "define" others opinions based upon your own bias, and using quotes by only those who agree with you.

Hey, let me try. Conservatism is defined as racism. Clearly, I wrote it so it must be true. See how that works?

Your comments bring nothing but hatred to anyone who does not hold the exact same opinions as yourself. It's simply childish behavior - nothing more.

Soooo....we are in agreement...you're a moron?

OK, OK....stop begging.

You can have a second chance.

Classical liberalism, not the tyranny that now calls itself 'liberal.'


"Classical liberalism, the optimistic doctrine that gave us liberty, democracy, progress, was a moral project. It held that human society could always better itself by encouraging the good and diminishing the bad. It rested, therefore, on a very clear understanding that there was a higher cause than self-realization: that there were such things as right and wrong and that the former should be preferred over the latter.

But the belief that autonomous individuals had the right to make subjective judgment about what was right for them in pursuit of their unchallengeable entitlement to happiness destroyed that understanding. Progressives interpreted liberty as license, thus destroying the moral rules that make freedom a virtue."
Melanie Phillips




The nation, with a view to classical liberalism, was founded on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


None of these embrace that view:
Nazism
Progressivism
Modern liberalism
Communism
Fascsm
or
Socialism



You're on.

 

[rightwinger]

If you're going to be president might as well be the best.
Hard to believe that West Point, Annapolis, Coast Guard and Air Force Academy are communist. But you're never wrong. Of course, it was West Point graduate, MacArthur, that said the nation was founded on liberalism.

Gads, you're a dunce.

Classical liberalism, not the tyranny that now calls itself 'liberal.'


"Classical liberalism, the optimistic doctrine that gave us liberty, democracy, progress, was a moral project. It held that human society could always better itself by encouraging the good and diminishing the bad. It rested, therefore, on a very clear understanding that there was a higher cause than self-realization: that there were such things as right and wrong and that the former should be preferred over the latter.

But the belief that autonomous individuals had the right to make subjective judgment about what was right for them in pursuit of their unchallengeable entitlement to happiness destroyed that understanding. Progressives interpreted liberty as license, thus destroying the moral rules that make freedom a virtue."
Melanie Phillips




The nation, with a view to classical liberalism, was founded on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


None of these embrace that view:
Nazism
Progressivism
Modern liberalism
Communism
Fascsm
or
Socialism


Jot that down.

It's always amusing to see someone "define" their opponents in a negative way, especially when they quote people who agree with them and stand in stark opposition to "the other team." Perhaps we would all be better if we defined ourselves and not others. - me (lol)

Clearly you could find no way to dispute my post.

Perhaps you're a moron.

Could be?

So your "argument" is to call me names like a child on a schoolyard? I disputed the FACT that you feel entitled to "define" others opinions based upon your own bias, and using quotes by only those who agree with you.

Hey, let me try. Conservatism is defined as racism. Clearly, I wrote it so it must be true. See how that works?

Your comments bring nothing but hatred to anyone who does not hold the exact same opinions as yourself. It's simply childish behavior - nothing more.

Soooo....we are in agreement...you're a moron?

OK, OK....stop begging.

You can have a second chance.

Classical liberalism, not the tyranny that now calls itself 'liberal.'


"Classical liberalism, the optimistic doctrine that gave us liberty, democracy, progress, was a moral project. It held that human society could always better itself by encouraging the good and diminishing the bad. It rested, therefore, on a very clear understanding that there was a higher cause than self-realization: that there were such things as right and wrong and that the former should be preferred over the latter.

But the belief that autonomous individuals had the right to make subjective judgment about what was right for them in pursuit of their unchallengeable entitlement to happiness destroyed that understanding. Progressives interpreted liberty as license, thus destroying the moral rules that make freedom a virtue."
Melanie Phillips




The nation, with a view to classical liberalism, was founded on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


None of these embrace that view:
Nazism
Progressivism
Modern liberalism
Communism
Fascsm
or
Socialism



You're on.

The cut and pastes start...

Normally PC will cut and paste first, then cut and paste some more and then start calling you names
This time she started with namecalling

 

[regent]

Why were we fighting Vietnam people? Why were so many dying? Sometimes treason is the only right thing to do.

Remember how wrong you thought Muhammad Ali’s was?

I respected Ali.

But then, he was not a traitor - Fonda is.

Why did the founders give message board participants the power to decide treason and who is guilty of same? Seems that should be a function of government.

the Founders didn't, but the history of a Supreme Court making up fake law, and now with assorted judges claiming the power to invalidate state laws passed by voters and making up their own laws based on their personal biases and sexual fetishes, along with political Parties on the faux 'Left' now openly hiring violent street thugs by running ads in papers to disrupt legitimate assemblies, and Democrats now all about supporting assassinations of police officers, it seems it's now pretty much anybody claiming whatever they want to now, just as in the Wiemar Republic.years in Germany. We know how that turned out, so you commies might want to be careful what you wish for. Those street thugs you Burb Brats worship aren't very reliable allies and they won't like being used as fodder just for your personal whims, they will turn around and take you down at the drop of a hat; they want a payday, and with no police to protect your tantrums they will pick over your dead bodies for loot; they just want loot, they don't care about your silly assed pretensions. The stupid hippies in the '60's thought those biker scum were just wonderful and 'on their side', but we know how it went when the dopers thought they had a private 'army' in the scum. Turns out they didn't give two shits about your political fantasies.

I stopped reading after I read your third lie. I wonder how many total lies you told. I’ll never know because I stopped reading that crap you wrote

Liberals fought the conservative Marbury Supreme Court decision, but it came to pass, and is now accepted.

 

[Picaro]

Why were we fighting Vietnam people? Why were so many dying? Sometimes treason is the only right thing to do.

Remember how wrong you thought Muhammad Ali’s was?

I respected Ali.

But then, he was not a traitor - Fonda is.

Why did the founders give message board participants the power to decide treason and who is guilty of same? Seems that should be a function of government.

the Founders didn't, but the history of a Supreme Court making up fake law, and now with assorted judges claiming the power to invalidate state laws passed by voters and making up their own laws based on their personal biases and sexual fetishes, along with political Parties on the faux 'Left' now openly hiring violent street thugs by running ads in papers to disrupt legitimate assemblies, and Democrats now all about supporting assassinations of police officers, it seems it's now pretty much anybody claiming whatever they want to now, just as in the Wiemar Republic.years in Germany. We know how that turned out, so you commies might want to be careful what you wish for. Those street thugs you Burb Brats worship aren't very reliable allies and they won't like being used as fodder just for your personal whims, they will turn around and take you down at the drop of a hat; they want a payday, and with no police to protect your tantrums they will pick over your dead bodies for loot; they just want loot, they don't care about your silly assed pretensions. The stupid hippies in the '60's thought those biker scum were just wonderful and 'on their side', but we know how it went when the dopers thought they had a private 'army' in the scum. Turns out they didn't give two shits about your political fantasies.

I stopped reading after I read your third lie. I wonder how many total lies you told. I’ll never know because I stopped reading that crap you wrote

It's entertaining how you gimp deviants and commies think we care about your opinions. lol

 

[Picaro]

Perhaps the reason Fonda was never charged with treason or other crime, may be because of the publicity and citizen controversy that it would arouse. not something the Republicans wanted at the time? To get people thinking about that war and the arguments pro and con might have been a loser for them.

So, you feel that communist.....er, government ....school has been successful in its purpose?


Franklin Roosevelt must be quite happy with himself, huh?

If you're going to be president might as well be the best.
Hard to believe that West Point, Annapolis, Coast Guard and Air Force Academy are communist. But you're never wrong. Of course, it was West Point graduate, MacArthur, that said the nation was founded on liberalism.

Gads, you're a dunce.

Classical liberalism, not the tyranny that now calls itself 'liberal.'


"Classical liberalism, the optimistic doctrine that gave us liberty, democracy, progress, was a moral project. It held that human society could always better itself by encouraging the good and diminishing the bad. It rested, therefore, on a very clear understanding that there was a higher cause than self-realization: that there were such things as right and wrong and that the former should be preferred over the latter.

But the belief that autonomous individuals had the right to make subjective judgment about what was right for them in pursuit of their unchallengeable entitlement to happiness destroyed that understanding. Progressives interpreted liberty as license, thus destroying the moral rules that make freedom a virtue."
Melanie Phillips




The nation, with a view to classical liberalism, was founded on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


None of these embrace that view:
Nazism
Progressivism
Modern liberalism
Communism
Fascsm
or
Socialism


Jot that down.

It's always amusing to see someone "define" their opponents in a negative way, especially when they quote people who agree with them and stand in stark opposition to "the other team." Perhaps we would all be better if we defined ourselves and not others. - me (lol)

The definitions are considered 'positive' to your ilk, so your sniveling isn't registering as anything but fake news.

 

[sealybobo]

Why were we fighting Vietnam people? Why were so many dying? Sometimes treason is the only right thing to do.

Remember how wrong you thought Muhammad Ali’s was?

I respected Ali.

But then, he was not a traitor - Fonda is.

Why did the founders give message board participants the power to decide treason and who is guilty of same? Seems that should be a function of government.

the Founders didn't, but the history of a Supreme Court making up fake law, and now with assorted judges claiming the power to invalidate state laws passed by voters and making up their own laws based on their personal biases and sexual fetishes, along with political Parties on the faux 'Left' now openly hiring violent street thugs by running ads in papers to disrupt legitimate assemblies, and Democrats now all about supporting assassinations of police officers, it seems it's now pretty much anybody claiming whatever they want to now, just as in the Wiemar Republic.years in Germany. We know how that turned out, so you commies might want to be careful what you wish for. Those street thugs you Burb Brats worship aren't very reliable allies and they won't like being used as fodder just for your personal whims, they will turn around and take you down at the drop of a hat; they want a payday, and with no police to protect your tantrums they will pick over your dead bodies for loot; they just want loot, they don't care about your silly assed pretensions. The stupid hippies in the '60's thought those biker scum were just wonderful and 'on their side', but we know how it went when the dopers thought they had a private 'army' in the scum. Turns out they didn't give two shits about your political fantasies.

I stopped reading after I read your third lie. I wonder how many total lies you told. I’ll never know because I stopped reading that crap you wrote

It's entertaining how you gimp deviants and commies think we care about your opinions. lol

Its funny how you think we are communists. What you are is a pawn in the game of life. Ok maybe not a pawn. A pawn would be a poor person living in India or Detroit. You are a Knight. You can only go up one and over 2 or up 2 and over 1.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I respected Ali.

But then, he was not a traitor - Fonda is.

Why did the founders give message board participants the power to decide treason and who is guilty of same? Seems that should be a function of government.

the Founders didn't, but the history of a Supreme Court making up fake law, and now with assorted judges claiming the power to invalidate state laws passed by voters and making up their own laws based on their personal biases and sexual fetishes, along with political Parties on the faux 'Left' now openly hiring violent street thugs by running ads in papers to disrupt legitimate assemblies, and Democrats now all about supporting assassinations of police officers, it seems it's now pretty much anybody claiming whatever they want to now, just as in the Wiemar Republic.years in Germany. We know how that turned out, so you commies might want to be careful what you wish for. Those street thugs you Burb Brats worship aren't very reliable allies and they won't like being used as fodder just for your personal whims, they will turn around and take you down at the drop of a hat; they want a payday, and with no police to protect your tantrums they will pick over your dead bodies for loot; they just want loot, they don't care about your silly assed pretensions. The stupid hippies in the '60's thought those biker scum were just wonderful and 'on their side', but we know how it went when the dopers thought they had a private 'army' in the scum. Turns out they didn't give two shits about your political fantasies.

I stopped reading after I read your third lie. I wonder how many total lies you told. I’ll never know because I stopped reading that crap you wrote

It's entertaining how you gimp deviants and commies think we care about your opinions. lol

Its funny how you think we are communists. What you are is a pawn in the game of life. Ok maybe not a pawn. A pawn would be a poor person living in India or Detroit. You are a Knight. You can only go up one and over 2 or up 2 and over 1.

Do you deny that the Democrat Party stands for the very same things that the Communist Party did???

 

[Picaro]

Why were we fighting Vietnam people? Why were so many dying? Sometimes treason is the only right thing to do.

Remember how wrong you thought Muhammad Ali’s was?

I respected Ali.

But then, he was not a traitor - Fonda is.

Why did the founders give message board participants the power to decide treason and who is guilty of same? Seems that should be a function of government.

the Founders didn't, but the history of a Supreme Court making up fake law, and now with assorted judges claiming the power to invalidate state laws passed by voters and making up their own laws based on their personal biases and sexual fetishes, along with political Parties on the faux 'Left' now openly hiring violent street thugs by running ads in papers to disrupt legitimate assemblies, and Democrats now all about supporting assassinations of police officers, it seems it's now pretty much anybody claiming whatever they want to now, just as in the Wiemar Republic.years in Germany. We know how that turned out, so you commies might want to be careful what you wish for. Those street thugs you Burb Brats worship aren't very reliable allies and they won't like being used as fodder just for your personal whims, they will turn around and take you down at the drop of a hat; they want a payday, and with no police to protect your tantrums they will pick over your dead bodies for loot; they just want loot, they don't care about your silly assed pretensions. The stupid hippies in the '60's thought those biker scum were just wonderful and 'on their side', but we know how it went when the dopers thought they had a private 'army' in the scum. Turns out they didn't give two shits about your political fantasies.

I stopped reading after I read your third lie. I wonder how many total lies you told. I’ll never know because I stopped reading that crap you wrote

Liberals fought the conservative Marbury Supreme Court decision, but it came to pass, and is now accepted.

Actually nobody at all then accepted anything remotely resembling what the Courts and the Circuit Courts do these days. Maybe you can try again some other day on that line of fake history.

 

[rightwinger]

Why did the founders give message board participants the power to decide treason and who is guilty of same? Seems that should be a function of government.

the Founders didn't, but the history of a Supreme Court making up fake law, and now with assorted judges claiming the power to invalidate state laws passed by voters and making up their own laws based on their personal biases and sexual fetishes, along with political Parties on the faux 'Left' now openly hiring violent street thugs by running ads in papers to disrupt legitimate assemblies, and Democrats now all about supporting assassinations of police officers, it seems it's now pretty much anybody claiming whatever they want to now, just as in the Wiemar Republic.years in Germany. We know how that turned out, so you commies might want to be careful what you wish for. Those street thugs you Burb Brats worship aren't very reliable allies and they won't like being used as fodder just for your personal whims, they will turn around and take you down at the drop of a hat; they want a payday, and with no police to protect your tantrums they will pick over your dead bodies for loot; they just want loot, they don't care about your silly assed pretensions. The stupid hippies in the '60's thought those biker scum were just wonderful and 'on their side', but we know how it went when the dopers thought they had a private 'army' in the scum. Turns out they didn't give two shits about your political fantasies.

I stopped reading after I read your third lie. I wonder how many total lies you told. I’ll never know because I stopped reading that crap you wrote

It's entertaining how you gimp deviants and commies think we care about your opinions. lol

Its funny how you think we are communists. What you are is a pawn in the game of life. Ok maybe not a pawn. A pawn would be a poor person living in India or Detroit. You are a Knight. You can only go up one and over 2 or up 2 and over 1.

Do you deny that the Democrat Party stands for the very same things that the Communist Party did???

It's the "Democratic" Party Dumbass

 

[Picaro]

I respected Ali.

But then, he was not a traitor - Fonda is.

Why did the founders give message board participants the power to decide treason and who is guilty of same? Seems that should be a function of government.

the Founders didn't, but the history of a Supreme Court making up fake law, and now with assorted judges claiming the power to invalidate state laws passed by voters and making up their own laws based on their personal biases and sexual fetishes, along with political Parties on the faux 'Left' now openly hiring violent street thugs by running ads in papers to disrupt legitimate assemblies, and Democrats now all about supporting assassinations of police officers, it seems it's now pretty much anybody claiming whatever they want to now, just as in the Wiemar Republic.years in Germany. We know how that turned out, so you commies might want to be careful what you wish for. Those street thugs you Burb Brats worship aren't very reliable allies and they won't like being used as fodder just for your personal whims, they will turn around and take you down at the drop of a hat; they want a payday, and with no police to protect your tantrums they will pick over your dead bodies for loot; they just want loot, they don't care about your silly assed pretensions. The stupid hippies in the '60's thought those biker scum were just wonderful and 'on their side', but we know how it went when the dopers thought they had a private 'army' in the scum. Turns out they didn't give two shits about your political fantasies.

I stopped reading after I read your third lie. I wonder how many total lies you told. I’ll never know because I stopped reading that crap you wrote

It's entertaining how you gimp deviants and commies think we care about your opinions. lol

Its funny how you think we are communists. What you are is a pawn in the game of life. Ok maybe not a pawn. A pawn would be a poor person living in India or Detroit. You are a Knight. You can only go up one and over 2 or up 2 and over 1.

You freaks and traitors defined yourselves, nobody else did; live with it or self-deport yourselves, preferably the latter. Too bad no white countries with histories of Christian influence will take any of you, and you're too racist and bigoted to immigrate to any other countries, so you're stuck with what you are being widely known. Obviously you're ashamed of being sociopathic deviants or something, and over-compensate for it.

 

[Uncensored2008]

There is no reconciliation with you Maoists. You are the sworn enemy of the United States. We will utterly defeat you as we did last time you rose up in civil war, or you will defeat us and end this nation once and for all.

You are not the opposition, you are the enemy. You are far more dangerous than Hitler or Mussolini and must be treated as they were.

They certainly are becoming just that, thanks to decades of indulging the brats, which only encouraged them to more and more radical rubbish. They can only tear down social structures, but they can never build viable ones, since they have no principles or real empathy for other humans, just narcissistic delusions of grandeur and drug addled desensitization to even the murders of children by the 10's of millions and a fascination with suicide. only they're cowards and don't want to die alone, so they try and take out everybody else with them.

I am to the point where I see the best place for these communist democrats as dead on the battlefield.

We fight for our survival, if the Maoist democrats prevail the United States is over and we enter a new dark age.

 

[Circe]

Why did the founders give message board participants the power to decide treason and who is guilty of same? Seems that should be a function of government.

But it isn't a function of government. Since Jane Fonda, nobody has gotten charged with treason, but a LOT of people have deserved to be. I can think of several myself, obvious cases. However, the government has given up on the whole idea of treason. Not enough unity in the country; too dangerous politically. Some people will always openly take the side of the traitor, however weird and obnoxious, like that Bradley Manning character.

 

[Uncensored2008]

She was your typical shallow fashion victim. She has no genuine principles, like most Burb Brats suffering from affluence, and that goes for both left and right wing fashion victims. Nothing is ever real to them, just media moments and they move on, like little birds with no attention spans, to the next Thing of the Moment. She was nothing special, and certainly not in the same league with vermin like Kerry, Hillary, Bill, and Obama by a long shot.

The charge of 'treason' is problematic, since no declaration of war was ever issued, one of my pet peeves over VN, and a huge mistake. Besides, we hardly had any troops left by the end of 1972. I can find far worse than Fonda, when it comes to real treason. She's irrelevant, and still is. She had a couple of good roles, owing to excellent direction and writing, that's about it. People still obsessing over her need to get a fricking life. Seriously.

Actually, Jane was raised as Hollywood royalty
Parts just fell into her lap because Henry Fonda was her father

Easiest thing would be just to wrap herself in the flag, support the war and let the money flow in. That is what most in Hollywood did

Instead, she risked it all. Fought against an unjustifiable war. Called out the military industrial complex. Helped end a war before it took more lives

lol rubbish, she just went along with her dope addled hippie friends, mostly other Burb Brat rich kids, here peer group. She didn't help anything, she just attention whored for herself, is all. She still does. She never risked anything.

Those "dope addled hippie friends" turned out to be right in their assessment of the war

Irrelevant to the absolute and irrefutable fact that Fonda committed treason, which endears her to gutter scum like you.

There is no reconciliation with you Maoists. You are the sworn enemy of the United States. We will utterly defeat you as we did last time you rose up in civil war, or you will defeat us and end this nation once and for all.

You are not the opposition, you are the enemy. You are far more dangerous than Hitler or Mussolini and must be treated as they were.

Repeatedly saying it does not make it true
Jane Fonda not only did not commit treason, she was not even close

Lets look at it this way........Richard Nixon despised Fonda and the anti-war crowd. If he could have made the charges stick, he would have done so

Repeatedly lying doesn't alter the fact that it is true.

Jane Fonda committed treason, per the Constitution of this nation you wage war against.

 

[Circe]

Donald Trump expressed no remorse Wednesday for saying last summer that Sen. John McCain was "not a war hero," despite being captured in Vietnam and tortured as a prisoner of war.

I LOVED it when Trump said that. I have long thought it's incredibly stupid to make such a fuss over McCain. It was most unfortunate for him that he got captured, but getting captured and being tortured simply is not what makes someone a hero!

That's what I like so much about Trump. He just SAYS it. What people have understood all their lives but no one is supposed to say, he just SAYS it, and now we can all say it.

 

[Uncensored2008]

the Founders didn't, but the history of a Supreme Court making up fake law, and now with assorted judges claiming the power to invalidate state laws passed by voters and making up their own laws based on their personal biases and sexual fetishes, along with political Parties on the faux 'Left' now openly hiring violent street thugs by running ads in papers to disrupt legitimate assemblies, and Democrats now all about supporting assassinations of police officers, it seems it's now pretty much anybody claiming whatever they want to now, just as in the Wiemar Republic.years in Germany. We know how that turned out, so you commies might want to be careful what you wish for. Those street thugs you Burb Brats worship aren't very reliable allies and they won't like being used as fodder just for your personal whims, they will turn around and take you down at the drop of a hat; they want a payday, and with no police to protect your tantrums they will pick over your dead bodies for loot; they just want loot, they don't care about your silly assed pretensions. The stupid hippies in the '60's thought those biker scum were just wonderful and 'on their side', but we know how it went when the dopers thought they had a private 'army' in the scum. Turns out they didn't give two shits about your political fantasies.

I stopped reading after I read your third lie. I wonder how many total lies you told. I’ll never know because I stopped reading that crap you wrote

It's entertaining how you gimp deviants and commies think we care about your opinions. lol

Its funny how you think we are communists. What you are is a pawn in the game of life. Ok maybe not a pawn. A pawn would be a poor person living in India or Detroit. You are a Knight. You can only go up one and over 2 or up 2 and over 1.

Do you deny that the Democrat Party stands for the very same things that the Communist Party did???

It's the "Democratic" Party Dumbass

No stupid fuck, it is not.

It is the democrat party.

Correctly, it is the MAOIST democrat party.

Democrat Party is the grammatically correct term for the Democratic Party. The Party is not "democratic," and proper nouns like "Democrat" are not converted into adjectives by adding "ic" as a suffix. For example, it is not the "Republicanic Party," or the "Libertarianic Party," or a "Smith-ic Wedding." yet many Democrats bristle at the term "Democrat Party." and perhaps they prefer the false illusion that their party is somehow more "democratic" than other parties. In fact, the Democrat Party is less democratic than the other political parties.

 

[Circe]

lol rubbish, she just went along with her dope addled hippie friends, mostly other Burb Brat rich kids, here peer group. She didn't help anything, she just attention whored for herself, is all. She still does. She never risked anything.

Good point.....She probably didn't think she was risking anything. But wow, was that short-sighted, right? Her whole life was twisted by that action, going to North Vietnam. She has never recovered, and you know (and she knows) that when she dies, half the nation will cheer.

 

[Circe]

Democrat Party is the grammatically correct term for the Democratic Party. The Party is not "democratic," and proper nouns like "Democrat" are not converted into adjectives by adding "ic" as a suffix. For example, it is not the "Republicanic Party," or the "Libertarianic Party," or a "Smith-ic Wedding." yet many Democrats bristle at the term "Democrat Party." and perhaps they prefer the false illusion that their party is somehow more "democratic" than other parties. In fact, the Democrat Party is less democratic than the other political parties.

Wow! I think you are right. I never ran across that point before, but it works, IMO.

 

[Circe]

In the meantime, Trump avoided the draft 5 times, claiming his "heel hurt" too much to serve and then trashed heroes like McCain and Gold Star families.....which makes him paladin of right-wing, virtue?

It's time we faced that whether you served in the jungles of Vietnam or not was an IQ test, and the smartest guys did get out of it. However they could. And I'm glad for every one who didn't go. That was one loser situation over there, every which way.

It seems many people really have no 'morality' or 'principles' at all but merely substitute 'hatred for the other team' instead.

Sure. That's how humans really work, I have figured out at long last. It's not about principle or "truth"! It's about which side you are on. I think it's very important to choose your side and then be loyal, loyal, loyal.

 

[sealybobo]

Donald Trump expressed no remorse Wednesday for saying last summer that Sen. John McCain was "not a war hero," despite being captured in Vietnam and tortured as a prisoner of war.

I LOVED it when Trump said that. I have long thought it's incredibly stupid to make such a fuss over McCain. It was most unfortunate for him that he got captured, but getting captured and being tortured simply is not what makes someone a hero!

That's what I like so much about Trump. He just SAYS it. What people have understood all their lives but no one is supposed to say, he just SAYS it, and now we can all say it.

It’s always the conservatives that tell us we got to support the troops and the missions. They use the troops as political football.

It’s weird we’re debating Fonda not lbj and Nixon and the military industrial complex that put us in Vietnam.

I’m glad that republican tactic didn’t work on trump

 

[Uncensored2008]

Donald Trump expressed no remorse Wednesday for saying last summer that Sen. John McCain was "not a war hero," despite being captured in Vietnam and tortured as a prisoner of war.

I LOVED it when Trump said that. I have long thought it's incredibly stupid to make such a fuss over McCain. It was most unfortunate for him that he got captured, but getting captured and being tortured simply is not what makes someone a hero!

That's what I like so much about Trump. He just SAYS it. What people have understood all their lives but no one is supposed to say, he just SAYS it, and now we can all say it.

It’s always the conservatives that tell us we got to support the troops and the missions. They use the troops as political football.

It’s weird we’re debating Fonda not lbj and Nixon and the military industrial complex that put us in Vietnam.

I’m glad that republican tactic didn’t work on trump

Jane Fonda sat on an enemy AA gun to shoot down and kill Americans, you traitorous pile of shit.