It's a Matter of Honor - the 8/28 Rally at the Lincoln Memorial

[Avatar4321]

IMO there are only two sets of people who support Beck's rally: The truly stupid and racists. Not much can be done about the truly stupid, but for racists the best practice is to call them out. Of course for truly stupid racists (for the two sets do intersect, somewhere in Texas I suspect) no solution exists - simply hope and pray no one in your family marry's one of them.

Cause only stupid racists believe that character matters and you should judge people by that rather than the content of their skin, right?

Huh? "content of their skin"?

(rarely do I use emoticons, this is a rare instance when one says it all)

Got ya. Cant argue the point so resort to insults. How typical of you Wry.

This is precisely why you will never understand the need to restore honor.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Interesting that you apparently think Dr. Alveda King to be a racist Wry. Would you care to elaborate on how you came to that conclusion?

I don't know why the Left feel such hatred for Glenn Beck. I've spent some time listening to him and hearing what he is teaching, and he is probably the most non partisan commentator out there and he is no ideologue. The GOP fares no better under his scrutiny than do the Democrats. I can't pinpoint anything he is saying that should generate hatred from any American except perhaps those who hate America. So some explanation would be helpful there.

I invite everybody to hear Glenn's commentary on the gathering and why this should offend anybody? (I wish he had acknowledged, in addition to Sunday being the Sabbath for most Christians that Saturday is in fact the Sabbath for Jews and some Christians, but he was speaking extemporaneously and just wasn't thinking that way at the time.)

YouTube - Glenn Beck under attack about 8/28 Restoring Honor Rally

Beck is little more than an opportunist, little different than Palin or Gingrich. Divisive populism seems to attract racists - many of whom are stupid if their posts are an indication of intelligence.
As for your quote from Dr. Alveda King, suffice it to say, " the presence of an exception establishes that a general rule exists.".

 

[Luissa]

I love people who are using her support to try and prove this rally is legit, especially when his son is speaking out against it, and Beck.

 

[Foxfyre]

Interesting that you apparently think Dr. Alveda King to be a racist Wry. Would you care to elaborate on how you came to that conclusion?

I don't know why the Left feel such hatred for Glenn Beck. I've spent some time listening to him and hearing what he is teaching, and he is probably the most non partisan commentator out there and he is no ideologue. The GOP fares no better under his scrutiny than do the Democrats. I can't pinpoint anything he is saying that should generate hatred from any American except perhaps those who hate America. So some explanation would be helpful there.

I invite everybody to hear Glenn's commentary on the gathering and why this should offend anybody? (I wish he had acknowledged, in addition to Sunday being the Sabbath for most Christians that Saturday is in fact the Sabbath for Jews and some Christians, but he was speaking extemporaneously and just wasn't thinking that way at the time.)

YouTube - Glenn Beck under attack about 8/28 Restoring Honor Rally

Beck is little more than an opportunist, little different than Palin or Gingrich. Divisive populism seems to attract racists - many of whom are stupid if their posts are an indication of intelligence.
As for your quote from Dr. Alveda King, suffice it to say, " the presence of an exception establishes that a general rule exists.".

I don't know what his motives are. You don't know what his motives are. All we have to judge him on are what he says.

So did you listen to him on the video posted here? What is he saying there that you can criticize?

What has he specifically said that is so offensive to those on the Left?

And in what way does he, who criticizes Republicans and Democrats equally, employ divisive populism? Please be specific about that.

And again, please tell us how Dr. Alveda King is a racist.

 

[Avatar4321]

I love people who are using her support to try and prove this rally is legit, especially when his son is speaking out against it, and Beck.

I love it how you are attacking him to pretend as though the rally isn't legit.

 

[Luissa]

I love people who are using her support to try and prove this rally is legit, especially when his son is speaking out against it, and Beck.

I love it how you are attacking him to pretend as though the rally isn't legit.

Well I don't think it is. To me someone like Beck does not represent honor or civil rights. People who make comments about other people's mothers are not honorable. Why would I like someone, who if given the chance would wrongly call me a socialist or communist? Beck is a hack.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Cause only stupid racists believe that character matters and you should judge people by that rather than the content of their skin, right?

Huh? "content of their skin"?

(rarely do I use emoticons, this is a rare instance when one says it all)

Got ya. Cant argue the point so resort to insults. How typical of you Wry.

This is precisely why you will never understand the need to restore honor.

No, I simply pointed the 'sentence' you posted was ... well, a somewhat confused juxtapositon of the words of Dr. MLK - maybe it was intentional and clever, or maybe it was I vote If you actually had a question, ask it again in standard English.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Interesting that you apparently think Dr. Alveda King to be a racist Wry. Would you care to elaborate on how you came to that conclusion?

I don't know why the Left feel such hatred for Glenn Beck. I've spent some time listening to him and hearing what he is teaching, and he is probably the most non partisan commentator out there and he is no ideologue. The GOP fares no better under his scrutiny than do the Democrats. I can't pinpoint anything he is saying that should generate hatred from any American except perhaps those who hate America. So some explanation would be helpful there.

I invite everybody to hear Glenn's commentary on the gathering and why this should offend anybody? (I wish he had acknowledged, in addition to Sunday being the Sabbath for most Christians that Saturday is in fact the Sabbath for Jews and some Christians, but he was speaking extemporaneously and just wasn't thinking that way at the time.)

YouTube - Glenn Beck under attack about 8/28 Restoring Honor Rally

Beck is little more than an opportunist, little different than Palin or Gingrich. Divisive populism seems to attract racists - many of whom are stupid if their posts are an indication of intelligence.
As for your quote from Dr. Alveda King, suffice it to say, " the presence of an exception establishes that a general rule exists.".

I don't know what his motives are. You don't know what his motives are. All we have to judge him on are what he says.

So did you listen to him on the video posted here? What is he saying there that you can criticize?

What has he specifically said that is so offensive to those on the Left?

And in what way does he, who criticizes Republicans and Democrats equally, employ divisive populism? Please be specific about that.

And again, please tell us how Dr. Alveda King is a racist.

Don't be thick; you've proven you smarter than the average RWer. Do you not understand the presence of an exception establishes that a general rule exists?
If you object to the superlative, simply accept my remarks as a bit (a tiny bit) of hyperbole and substitute (most, many, some) for all.

 

[Foxfyre]

I love people who are using her support to try and prove this rally is legit, especially when his son is speaking out against it, and Beck.

I love it how you are attacking him to pretend as though the rally isn't legit.

Well I don't think it is. To me someone like Beck does not represent honor or civil rights. People who make comments about other people's mothers are not honorable. Why would I like someone, who if given the chance would wrongly call me a socialist or communist? Beck is a hack.

Why?'

What has Beck said that is dishonorable? Please be specific and keep it in context.

What has Beck said that is offensive to civil rights? Please be specific and keep it in context.

What has he said about anybody's mother? Please show specific evidence and keep it in context.

What has he said that would identify you as a socialist or communist? Please show specific evidence and keep it in context.

The fact is that the most hateful rhetoric you can find on the internet is in leftwing blogs and commentaries that use this kind of slur to attack Beck and, by association, the rally itself. But nobody seems to be able to come up with anything specific to justify the hate. To me that is destructive, dishonest, hateful, and should not be acceptable to fair minded Americans. Be specific or don't repeat the garbage.

DISCLAIMER: I have every bit as much contempt for Rightwing blogs that deal in dishonest sound bites, talking points, and made up garbage they can't back up with anything in order to attack or smear people.

 

[JWBooth]

A rally to restore honor, with the primary speakers being politicians. As if.

Guy Fawkes had it right, figuratively - not literally. Want a restoring honor movement? Start right there.

 

[Foxfyre]

Beck is little more than an opportunist, little different than Palin or Gingrich. Divisive populism seems to attract racists - many of whom are stupid if their posts are an indication of intelligence.
As for your quote from Dr. Alveda King, suffice it to say, " the presence of an exception establishes that a general rule exists.".

I don't know what his motives are. You don't know what his motives are. All we have to judge him on are what he says.

So did you listen to him on the video posted here? What is he saying there that you can criticize?

What has he specifically said that is so offensive to those on the Left?

And in what way does he, who criticizes Republicans and Democrats equally, employ divisive populism? Please be specific about that.

And again, please tell us how Dr. Alveda King is a racist.

Don't be thick; you've proven you smarter than the average RWer. Do you not understand the presence of an exception establishes that a general rule exists?
If you object to the superlative, simply accept my remarks as a bit (a tiny bit) of hyperbole and substitute (most, many, some) for all.

Hyperbole that is based on reality is fine. I use it all the time (and take a lot of grief because I do.) But hyperbole that is based on unsupportable prejudice or indefensible assumptions is not fine. And it should not be acceptable to any intelligent person.

So again, I am asking those who dislike, distrust, disrespect, and/or hate Glenn Beck to give me something to work with here. Why is he sufficient to discredit a rally intended to restore America's honor? What do you think will happen at this rally that justifies the truly hateful rhetoric being said about it?

 

[geauxtohell]

It's a matter of honor...

And a formally drug/alcohol addicted, emotionally unstable, partisan-hack, demagogue shall lead them.

 

[Foxfyre]

It's a matter of honor...

And a formally drug/alcohol addicted, emotionally unstable, partisan-hack, demagogue shall lead them.

Thank you for your unbiased and thoughtful psychological evaluation. Glenn Beck readily admits he is a recovering alcoholic. In your opinion, does that disqualify him from being a spokesperson for restoring honor to America? (If so, I hope you flunk out of medical school very quickly because you would not deserve to have M.D. beside your name.)

Emotionally unstable? I haven't seen it. Please give me a specific verifiable example of what would qualify as his emotional instability.

Partisan-hack? Partisan for whom? He is every bit as critical, if not more so, of the Republicans than he is of the Democrats. What basis do you use to accuse him of partisan hackery?

Demagogue? You'll have to give specific verifiable examples in context to back this one up. I once thought the same until I made the effort to actually hear what he is teaching. And I don't find any demagoguery there.

ATTENTION: I have asked a number of our liberal friends here to back up their condemnation of Glenn Beck so that I don't have to assume that they are engaging in ideological prejudice and parroting unsupportable assumptions.

I continue to ask why the 8/28 rally should be discredited and condemned by those on the Left. So far not a soul who disdains it has been able to come up with a single specific for why it is not a good thing.

 

[bodecea]

I wonder if those going to this event will FINALLY be proud of America.

 

[Wry Catcher]

I don't know what his motives are. You don't know what his motives are. All we have to judge him on are what he says.

So did you listen to him on the video posted here? What is he saying there that you can criticize?

What has he specifically said that is so offensive to those on the Left?

And in what way does he, who criticizes Republicans and Democrats equally, employ divisive populism? Please be specific about that.

And again, please tell us how Dr. Alveda King is a racist.

Don't be thick; you've proven you smarter than the average RWer. Do you not understand the presence of an exception establishes that a general rule exists?
If you object to the superlative, simply accept my remarks as a bit (a tiny bit) of hyperbole and substitute (most, many, some) for all.

Hyperbole that is based on reality is fine. I use it all the time (and take a lot of grief because I do.) But hyperbole that is based on unsupportable prejudice or indefensible assumptions is not fine. And it should not be acceptable to any intelligent person.

So again, I am asking those who dislike, distrust, disrespect, and/or hate Glenn Beck to give me something to work with here. Why is he sufficient to discredit a rally intended to restore America's honor? What do you think will happen at this rally that justifies the truly hateful rhetoric being said about it?

I DISLIKE ALL (there goes that superlative again) opportunists whose actions have consequences which are likely to cause harm. I dislike people, generally, who use populists rhetoric for personal gain when the consequences of divisive rhetoric are likely to cause harm to others.
Yep, that makes me a bleeding heart liberal in the (small) minds of the contemporary conservative. Yet, my values were formed by the teaching of Catholic Nuns who used the words of Jesus (of course all of this occured before I realized the Catholic relgion, as are ALL [there he goes again] religions, are little more than self-serving quasi-political organizations.
I don't hate Beck, I simply believe he's a piece of shit. Shit defined as something I don't want in the punch bowl at a party I attend.

 

[Dr.House]

It's a matter of honor...

And a formally drug/alcohol addicted, emotionally unstable, partisan-hack, demagogue shall lead them.

There's a bit of spittle coming out your mouth...

Try to calm down... Deep breaths...

Want a pill to help?

 

[bodecea]

I love people who are using her support to try and prove this rally is legit, especially when his son is speaking out against it, and Beck.

"My King relative trumps your King relative."

Pretty sad.

 

[Foxfyre]

Don't be thick; you've proven you smarter than the average RWer. Do you not understand the presence of an exception establishes that a general rule exists?
If you object to the superlative, simply accept my remarks as a bit (a tiny bit) of hyperbole and substitute (most, many, some) for all.

Hyperbole that is based on reality is fine. I use it all the time (and take a lot of grief because I do.) But hyperbole that is based on unsupportable prejudice or indefensible assumptions is not fine. And it should not be acceptable to any intelligent person.

So again, I am asking those who dislike, distrust, disrespect, and/or hate Glenn Beck to give me something to work with here. Why is he sufficient to discredit a rally intended to restore America's honor? What do you think will happen at this rally that justifies the truly hateful rhetoric being said about it?

I DISLIKE ALL (there goes that superlative again) opportunists whose actions have consequences which are likely to cause harm. I dislike people, generally, who use populists rhetoric for personal gain when the consequences of divisive rhetoric are likely to cause harm to others.
Yep, that makes me a bleeding heart liberal in the (small) minds of the contemporary conservative. Yet, my values were formed by the teaching of Catholic Nuns who used the words of Jesus (of course all of this occured before I realized the Catholic relgion, as are ALL [there he goes again] religions, are little more than self-serving quasi-political organizations.
I don't hate Beck, I simply believe he's a piece of shit. Shit defined as something I don't want in the punch bowl at a party I attend.

Would you attend the party if Beck wasn't there? You know, racists hate/belittle/diminish/marginalize/patronize people of other races because they are a different race. Racists can't tell you why they see another race as inferior or evil or unacceptable. They just feel it in their bones.

That's pretty much what I'm getting from you guys on the Left re Beck. You just 'feel it in your bones' that he is unacceptable and that all the hateful things said about him are true. And yet when pushed to do so, you can't come up with anything to justify your opinion that "he's a piece of shit."

Doesn't that cause you to stop and think at all? WHY you think that about him? When you have absolutely nothing to base it on other than others tell you that's the way you're supposed to think about him?

 

[Avatar4321]

It's a matter of honor...

And a formally drug/alcohol addicted, emotionally unstable, partisan-hack, demagogue shall lead them.

And who better than someone who has lost everything and had to regain it to know?

 

[Avatar4321]

I wonder if those going to this event will FINALLY be proud of America.

Sorry, we arent the First Lady. We've always been proud of America. We just don't want the cancer of corruption to destroy it.