It Might Be A Good Time To Talk About That 3 AM Phone Call..

[AmericanFirst]

Look people we have already had a president recently that not only wasn't capable of making responsible judgements at 3 AM but for cryin out loud he sat there in a stupor during the events of 9/11 then continued to read "My Pet Goat" as his first presidential reaction to planes flying into the towers. He had an obssession with attacking Iraq which skewed the intel and got us into a costly and unneccesary war.

Now we have Mittens who has an obvious obssession with winning the presidency. That in itself isn't unreasonable. But ...and a big But... he has failed in his first presidential moment in how he miss enterpreted and then miss used the information on the Lybian and Egyptian incidents in an attempt to gain some political capital.

So I ask in all seriousness.. Do we REALLY want Romney taking that 3 A M phone call that may lead some of our soldiers and possibly our country into harms way?

You're a disgusting two faced pig politicizing dead Americans. Eat some dog shit.

Huggy is what pigs leave behind in their stalls.

 

[AmericanFirst]

Well....that is true....if it were fact and not just your right wing Nationalist paranoia.....Just like dehumanizing all Muslims for the actions of a few....you'd rather take the lazy and easier route of calling Russia a "rabid dog" than to work with them to achieve a solution that works for all.

This is the same ideology that made that film that the Middle East is so pissed off about.

Once you numbnuts realize that Our Beloved Country(and I truly mean that) is not the only one on the planet and that all of those "other" countries have the right and responsibility to look out for their interests too.....AND that those "other" countries aren't our subjects to be whipped into submission at our discretion when they do or say something we don't like? The whole world will be better off.

I realize that other countries have the right to prosper. They do not have the right to attack and kill American citizens, that is the difference between us and them, we are more civilized.

yeah....unless they have resources we covet.....then all bets are off.

The big ongoing libtard lie that iraq was over oil. Fail.

 

[WillowTree]

We sure as hell dont want the current incompetence taking that call.

Where is the dope? Has he been around today? Still on the campaign trail?

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

We sure as hell dont want the current incompetence taking that call.

Where is the dope? Has he been around today? Still on the campaign trail?

He;s in Vegas while our Embassies are attacked and burning..

 

[LordBrownTrout]

We sure as hell dont want the current incompetence taking that call.

Where is the dope? Has he been around today? Still on the campaign trail?

Inviting the muslim brotherhood over.

 

[HUGGY]

We sure as hell dont want the current incompetence taking that call.

Oh my ...perhaps you haven't noticed. Obama has been president for 3 years and 8 months. I have no doubt that he has recieved dozens of 3 AM phone calls already and handled them expertly and presidentially as I would have expected. You just haven't noticed because he is not a blustering baffoon like Bush that has to wear a little flight suit with cod piece and make wild and fantastic declarations like the one he did on that carrier off San Diego.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

We sure as hell dont want the current incompetence taking that call.

Oh my ...perhaps you haven't noticed. Obama has been president for 3 years and 8 months. I have no doubt that he has recieved dozens of 3 AM phone calls already and handled them expertly and presidentially as I would have expected. You just haven't noticed because he is not a blustering baffoon like Bush that has to wear a little flight suit with cod piece and make wild and fantastic declarations like the one he did on that carrier off San Diego.

The current state of conditions is overtly novice. Its embarrassing at best.

 

[AmericanFirst]

We sure as hell dont want the current incompetence taking that call.

Oh my ...perhaps you haven't noticed. Obama has been president for 3 years and 8 months. I have no doubt that he has recieved dozens of 3 AM phone calls already and handled them expertly and presidentially as I would have expected. You just haven't noticed because he is not a blustering baffoon like Bush that has to wear a little flight suit with cod piece and make wild and fantastic declarations like the one he did on that carrier off San Diego.

No, we haven't noticed, other then our country being worse off. The only 3am phone calls obamaturd gets is from his boyfriends.

 

[Murf76]

bullshit. investigating the scene, determining who is responsible and taking appropriate action is the logical, intelligent route to travel....going off half cocked, screaming and blustering like a madman is the opposite and will result in yet another unaffordable war with more of OUR fellow Americans paying the ultimate price. That is NOT appeasement, that is rationality.

The film....probably by some fucktard right winter....may have been the catalyst of this violence....don't you think it MIGHT be time to stop dehumanizing people from cultures we don't understand and don't really care to?

BTW, your bullshit Democracy analogy is so fucking old and tired. If you want a truer one, it's this..... A Republic is where there are three sheep deciding what's for dinner....however, one sheep is safe in a field of clover, the other two are outside of the fenceline, surrounded by wolves and pounding at the gate in fear.... the sheep inside the gate says "don't be so fucking lazy.....get your own field!".

Once again... the attacks happened on 9/11. Only an idiot would think that there's a coincidence at work. And only a complacent idiot like Obama wouldn't have beefed up security around our embassies on 9/11. So, this dopey film is just an EXCUSE.

But let's say for a moment that it's not. For the purpose of discussion, let's say that's the catalyst. What exactly are you going to do to stop citizens from saying whatever they want? How are you going to accomplish that?

You ever hear of yelling fire in a crowded movie? That is not protected by our Constitution. If it was the movie(notice that in my OP, I used the word "may") that caused our embassies to be attacked and our ambassadors to be killed....then they ought to be held somewhat accountable....inciting a riot?....I don't know....how much potential war causing stupidity do we tolerate?

So... your plan is to suspend free speech in America on the off-chance it'll keep some nutjob overseas from getting his little feelings hurt and becoming homicidal. That right?

Here's the problem you're having... Our rights are guaranteed by our U.S. Constitution. You'd need a Constitutional Amendment to abrogate Free Speech. And you won't get one. This is NOT a case of "fire in a crowded theater". A case like that would be about the likelihood of INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS being injured. Your rights stop at my chin, that's true. But we don't limit rights for anything less than that kind of overlapping. You can't even make a slander suit stick unless you can prove damages to an individual citizen.

 

[Vel]

Look people we have already had a president recently that not only wasn't capable of making responsible judgements at 3 AM but for cryin out loud he sat there in a stupor during the events of 9/11 then continued to read "My Pet Goat" as his first presidential reaction to planes flying into the towers. He had an obssession with attacking Iraq which skewed the intel and got us into a costly and unneccesary war.

Now we have Mittens who has an obvious obssession with winning the presidency. That in itself isn't unreasonable. But ...and a big But... he has failed in his first presidential moment in how he miss enterpreted and then miss used the information on the Lybian and Egyptian incidents in an attempt to gain some political capital.

So I ask in all seriousness.. Do we REALLY want Romney taking that 3 A M phone call that may lead some of our soldiers and possibly our country into harms way?

I don't have time to read this whole thread this morning but I will say, YES, I would rather have Mitt Romney answer that 3:00a.m. call. Obama is an abysmal failure that hasn't a clue what he's doing. And Romney didn't misuse any information. He simply said what most Americans reading that embassy statement were saying. We don't apologize for free speech in order to appease radicals.Appeasement doesn't work, Ask Jimmy Carter. Obama not only is inept..he's weak.

 

[OldUSAFSniper]

I actually get a huge chuckle when I read a thread or a story about a member of the left expressing 'concern' over something regarding the military or foreign policy. First of all, the left has nothing but disdain and contempt for the military and America's veterans. For the left, those that have served are considered nothing short of 'stooges' for putting their lives on the line for this country. And secondly, foreign policy is always from the perspective that if someone wants to or actually does something negative to the US, naturally we deserved it. It probably is in response to something horrible that we have done and so therefore, our response should be from that perspective. The left is in a perpetual state of apology, appeasement and retreat.

Barry's entire foreign policy experience has been gained during his four years in the White House. No one was more of an amateur at it than Barry and his cronies at the time of his inauguration or now for that matter. Israel, the Czech Republic, Poland, China, the Sea of Japan, the horn of Africa, Sudan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Medvedev and the Russians, Georgia (the independent nation not the state). I could go on and on about the failures of this administration in foreign policy, but I won't. The only bright spot is Hillary. She has actually turned out to be an adequate Secretary of State and quite frankly if I was Mitt, I would definately seek out her counsel once Barry and his cronies are sent packing back to Bill Ayers and the Reverand Wright. Course, Hillary gets her marching orders from Barry and his lackies. She doesn't have much to work with.

Two weeks ago, a small story buried at the back of the days news spoke of the execution of two hostages by the pirates in Somalia. The two people they executed had been held for six months and no 'adequate' response was received regarding their ransom. The article went on to say that after several years of decline, the number of hijacks by pirates around the horn had increased. The reason? The US Navy has had to pull ships from the multi-national force patrolling here because of course, there are not enough men, money or ships to keep them there. We are below 300 ships and falling rapidly. The days of a 600 ship or even a 500 ship navy during the Reagan and Bush years is nothing but a fond memory.

Hopefully, God willing and the creeks don't rise, it will be Mitt Romney who would take that call, if there are any calls to take. And hopefully, Mitt can restore some sanity to the levels of defense spending.

Course for entertainment we can always look to Harry Reid and the Senate Democrats to surrender almost instantly at the sign of trouble...

 

[Katzndogz]

bullshit. investigating the scene, determining who is responsible and taking appropriate action is the logical, intelligent route to travel....going off half cocked, screaming and blustering like a madman is the opposite and will result in yet another unaffordable war with more of OUR fellow Americans paying the ultimate price. That is NOT appeasement, that is rationality.

The film....probably by some fucktard right winter....may have been the catalyst of this violence....don't you think it MIGHT be time to stop dehumanizing people from cultures we don't understand and don't really care to?

BTW, your bullshit Democracy analogy is so fucking old and tired. If you want a truer one, it's this..... A Republic is where there are three sheep deciding what's for dinner....however, one sheep is safe in a field of clover, the other two are outside of the fenceline, surrounded by wolves and pounding at the gate in fear.... the sheep inside the gate says "don't be so fucking lazy.....get your own field!".

Once again... the attacks happened on 9/11. Only an idiot would think that there's a coincidence at work. And only a complacent idiot like Obama wouldn't have beefed up security around our embassies on 9/11. So, this dopey film is just an EXCUSE.

But let's say for a moment that it's not. For the purpose of discussion, let's say that's the catalyst. What exactly are you going to do to stop citizens from saying whatever they want? How are you going to accomplish that?

You ever hear of yelling fire in a crowded movie? That is not protected by our Constitution. If it was the movie(notice that in my OP, I used the word "may") that caused our embassies to be attacked and our ambassadors to be killed....then they ought to be held somewhat accountable....inciting a riot?....I don't know....how much potential war causing stupidity do we tolerate?

The movie was an excuse. Whatever internet nerd that scoured You Tube to find the trailer must have gotten a medal by now. How much of a search did they undertake to find a video that is two years old? The movie is nothing and the makers are responsible for nothing. The movie makers who made Fitna aren't responsible. The Danish cartoon artist isn't responsible. The guys who burned korans that had been desecrated aren't responsible. Theo Van Gough isn't responsible. The act, the very seminal act of removing responsibility from murderous muslims and putting that responsiblity on those who are exercising their rights is what continues these murders.

 

[HUGGY]

We sure as hell dont want the current incompetence taking that call.

Oh my ...perhaps you haven't noticed. Obama has been president for 3 years and 8 months. I have no doubt that he has recieved dozens of 3 AM phone calls already and handled them expertly and presidentially as I would have expected. You just haven't noticed because he is not a blustering baffoon like Bush that has to wear a little flight suit with cod piece and make wild and fantastic declarations like the one he did on that carrier off San Diego.

No, we haven't noticed, other then our country being worse off. The only 3am phone calls obamaturd gets is from his boyfriends.

Nope! That would have been Bush also.. except he didn't need to take any phone calls since Jeff Gannon was already there doing one of his several hundred white house sleep overs when he wasn't out servicing his other homosexual clients.

True Story!

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3e9paM_hYo]jeff gannon male prostitute - YouTube[/ame]

 

[FJO]

and her lie about that didnt work did it?

Robmoney thought Russia was our biggest threat.
The man has NO curiosity about the world.


he knows nothing because he doesnt care

His big stupid pie hole also gave Putin an excuse to walk away from nuclear arms negotiations.

Thanks Mittens ...YOU FUCKIN IDIOT!!!!

Putin is an old-style Soviet. And he's plunked himself down between our goal of keeping the nutjobs in Iran from going nuclear and their goal of terrorizing their neighbors and the world. Obama sticking his head in the sand and refusing to notice isn't even slowing 'em down.

Exactly!

Ideologically, Putin is no better than Lenin. If he managed to accumulate as much power, he would not be any better than Stalin.

He would enslave Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan and Tajikistan and with far more cruelty than Stalin ever shown.

 

[rightwinger]

Ahhh.. the 'My Pet Goat' criticism again... yawn... like he was supposed to jump up and freak out a bunch of 6 year olds...

yeah, i always thought that was pretty lame.

was he supposed to make it unhappen?

It just seemed like an odd response to a terrorist attack

I would have expected him to excuse himself, get on the phone with trusted security advisors and ask.....What the fuck is going on?

 

[Avatar4321]

Yes I want someone who is going to respond to the situation. Not call Letterman instead.

 

[Avatar4321]

Ahhh.. the 'My Pet Goat' criticism again... yawn... like he was supposed to jump up and freak out a bunch of 6 year olds...

yeah, i always thought that was pretty lame.

was he supposed to make it unhappen?

It just seemed like an odd response to a terrorist attack

I would have expected him to excuse himself, get on the phone with trusted security advisors and ask.....What the fuck is going on?

So arranging a sit down with Letterman is a good idea while our ambassador is being killed and our sovereign property is being burned?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

bullshit. investigating the scene, determining who is responsible and taking appropriate action is the logical, intelligent route to travel....going off half cocked, screaming and blustering like a madman is the opposite and will result in yet another unaffordable war with more of OUR fellow Americans paying the ultimate price. That is NOT appeasement, that is rationality.

The film....probably by some fucktard right winter....may have been the catalyst of this violence....don't you think it MIGHT be time to stop dehumanizing people from cultures we don't understand and don't really care to?

BTW, your bullshit Democracy analogy is so fucking old and tired. If you want a truer one, it's this..... A Republic is where there are three sheep deciding what's for dinner....however, one sheep is safe in a field of clover, the other two are outside of the fenceline, surrounded by wolves and pounding at the gate in fear.... the sheep inside the gate says "don't be so fucking lazy.....get your own field!".

Once again... the attacks happened on 9/11. Only an idiot would think that there's a coincidence at work. And only a complacent idiot like Obama wouldn't have beefed up security around our embassies on 9/11. So, this dopey film is just an EXCUSE.

But let's say for a moment that it's not. For the purpose of discussion, let's say that's the catalyst. What exactly are you going to do to stop citizens from saying whatever they want? How are you going to accomplish that?

You ever hear of yelling fire in a crowded movie? That is not protected by our Constitution. If it was the movie(notice that in my OP, I used the word "may") that caused our embassies to be attacked and our ambassadors to be killed....then they ought to be held somewhat accountable....inciting a riot?....I don't know....how much potential war causing stupidity do we tolerate?

Obama fluffers are in full islamist apologist mode

 

[FJO]

Laughable!

He is already an international embarrassment and he hasn't been elected yet. Romney is a man that jumps to wrong conclusions then doubles down on his poor judgement.

International embarrassment? Hardly!

In England he spoke the truth, the same truth that worried everybody in England, the possibility of a terrorist attack. The same yahoos in the British press who maligned Governor Romney were saying the same thing for months.

Romney was just a politician, the kind of oddity England is not used to: HONEST.

As far as his visit to Poland and Israel is concerned, ask the people of Poland and Israel.

SOOOooo... You think it is a good idea for a president of the United States to be completely honest when describing the different peoples of the planet compared to what we expect from our own citizens? Where would you have him start? Do you have even the tinyest idea how bad an idea that is?

Your world view is uber naive.

When Governor Romney HONESTLY responded to the question he was NOT President.

I am also sure that if he had given a glowing and DISHONEST and phony reply, you and your fellow liberals would condemn him as sucking up to the British.

Strange that you made no comment about how the HONEST people of Poland and Israel viewed Mitt Romney.

Of course, they are "uber" naive. Strange that you chose that word.

 

[HUGGY]

yeah, i always thought that was pretty lame.

was he supposed to make it unhappen?

It just seemed like an odd response to a terrorist attack

I would have expected him to excuse himself, get on the phone with trusted security advisors and ask.....What the fuck is going on?

So arranging a sit down with Letterman is a good idea while our ambassador is being killed and our sovereign property is being burned?

Bad things happen in the world every day. Fortunately we have a man in the white house that can take care of our countries business and maintain a sense of perspective and confidence at the same time. I would expect Obama to talk to anyone he choses as he sees fit.