Israel's Contributions To Peace, Mankind & Civilization

[P F Tinmore]

Idiot, the fact that Hamas is considered a terrorist organization means no government that includes Hamas can be funded by the US or EU, the principal sources of income for the PA. This means a unity government with Hamas cannot survive financially unless Hamas convinces the US and EU to take it off their terrorist lists. This is the reason that in 2007 Abbas had to oppose the Hamas government in order to save the PA.

It is evident that you understand how the children in our government think. If our government is too stupid and lazy to deal with an elected government we need a better government.

You're almost as hilarious as a heart attack. What a maroon!

Is name calling the best you got?

Sad.

 

[JStone]

It is evident that you understand how the children in our government think. If our government is too stupid and lazy to deal with an elected government we need a better government.

You're almost as hilarious as a heart attack. What a maroon!

Is name calling the best you got?

Sad.

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[toomuchtime_]

Yeah, yeah, more third grade name calling.

Look what replaced it.



An illegal government.

Idiot, the fact that Hamas is considered a terrorist organization means no government that includes Hamas can be funded by the US or EU, the principal sources of income for the PA. This means a unity government with Hamas cannot survive financially unless Hamas convinces the US and EU to take it off their terrorist lists. This is the reason that in 2007 Abbas had to oppose the Hamas government in order to save the PA.

It is evident that you understand how the children in our government think. If our government is too stupid and lazy to deal with an elected government we need a better government.

The fact that a government is elected doesn't mean we have to approve of its policies or support it. All the polls consistently show the American people overwhelmingly support Israel over the Palestinian Arabs, even when they are sometimes critical of some Israeli actions or policies and this has been true for years, regardless of which party were in power here or which in Israel. If the choices were between Hamas and Israel support for Israel would have been even more overwhelming. In this instance the US government is not being lazy or stupid; it is faithfully representing the opinions of the American people.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Idiot, the fact that Hamas is considered a terrorist organization means no government that includes Hamas can be funded by the US or EU, the principal sources of income for the PA. This means a unity government with Hamas cannot survive financially unless Hamas convinces the US and EU to take it off their terrorist lists. This is the reason that in 2007 Abbas had to oppose the Hamas government in order to save the PA.

It is evident that you understand how the children in our government think. If our government is too stupid and lazy to deal with an elected government we need a better government.

The fact that a government is elected doesn't mean we have to approve of its policies or support it. All the polls consistently show the American people overwhelmingly support Israel over the Palestinian Arabs, even when they are sometimes critical of some Israeli actions or policies and this has been true for years, regardless of which party were in power here or which in Israel. If the choices were between Hamas and Israel support for Israel would have been even more overwhelming. In this instance the US government is not being lazy or stupid; it is faithfully representing the opinions of the American people.

...the American people overwhelmingly support Israel...

Public opinion is shifting now that the truth is getting out. Our government should already know the truth.

 

[toomuchtime_]

It is evident that you understand how the children in our government think. If our government is too stupid and lazy to deal with an elected government we need a better government.

The fact that a government is elected doesn't mean we have to approve of its policies or support it. All the polls consistently show the American people overwhelmingly support Israel over the Palestinian Arabs, even when they are sometimes critical of some Israeli actions or policies and this has been true for years, regardless of which party were in power here or which in Israel. If the choices were between Hamas and Israel support for Israel would have been even more overwhelming. In this instance the US government is not being lazy or stupid; it is faithfully representing the opinions of the American people.

...the American people overwhelmingly support Israel...

Public opinion is shifting now that the truth is getting out. Our government should already know the truth.

Only in your imagination. In the real word it has remained remarkably constant.

 

[docmauser1]

Public opinion is shifting now that the truth is getting out. Our government should already know the truth.

Arab agitprop, crying truth, is a funny joke, indeed.

 

[P F Tinmore]

And by June it was over. This was a unity gesture, one of many, not a functioning government. Since Hamas is regarded as a terrorist organization by both the US and EU, it would have been illegal for either of them to fund the PA, and it would have been bankrupt in a short time. This is just as true today as it was then. There can never be a unity government while Hamas continues to be considered a terrorist organization by the US and EU.

Yeah, yeah, more third grade name calling.

Look what replaced it.

The Palestinian cabinet that was formed on June 17, 2007 (Arabic: المجلس الفلسطيني لحزيران 17 2007*) by Salam Fayyad is an emergency cabinet. While widely supported by the international community, it is viewed by some as illegitimate and unconstitutional. President Mahmoud Abbas suspended certain articles from the Basic Law in order for the cabinet to be sworn in without the approval of the Palestinian Legislative Council.

Effectively, the current Palestinian government under Fayyad acts without a backing legislature.

Palestinian government of June 2007 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

An illegal government.

Idiot, the fact that Hamas is considered a terrorist organization means no government that includes Hamas can be funded by the US or EU, the principal sources of income for the PA. This means a unity government with Hamas cannot survive financially unless Hamas convinces the US and EU to take it off their terrorist lists. This is the reason that in 2007 Abbas had to oppose the Hamas government in order to save the PA.

Hamas does not match the definition of a terrorist organization. It is not that it is a terrorist organization, it is called a terrorist organization by some people for political purposes.

 

[Artevelde]

Yeah, yeah, more third grade name calling.

Look what replaced it.



An illegal government.

Idiot, the fact that Hamas is considered a terrorist organization means no government that includes Hamas can be funded by the US or EU, the principal sources of income for the PA. This means a unity government with Hamas cannot survive financially unless Hamas convinces the US and EU to take it off their terrorist lists. This is the reason that in 2007 Abbas had to oppose the Hamas government in order to save the PA.

Hamas does not match the definition of a terrorist organization. It is not that it is a terrorist organization, it is called a terrorist organization by some people for political purposes.

It is a terrorist organization. The fact that it now runs its own territory doesn't change that.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Idiot, the fact that Hamas is considered a terrorist organization means no government that includes Hamas can be funded by the US or EU, the principal sources of income for the PA. This means a unity government with Hamas cannot survive financially unless Hamas convinces the US and EU to take it off their terrorist lists. This is the reason that in 2007 Abbas had to oppose the Hamas government in order to save the PA.

Hamas does not match the definition of a terrorist organization. It is not that it is a terrorist organization, it is called a terrorist organization by some people for political purposes.

It is a terrorist organization. The fact that it now runs its own territory doesn't change that.

What makes you think that?

 

[Artevelde]

Hamas does not match the definition of a terrorist organization. It is not that it is a terrorist organization, it is called a terrorist organization by some people for political purposes.

It is a terrorist organization. The fact that it now runs its own territory doesn't change that.

What makes you think that?

It's terrorist acts (towards Israeli's AND towards other Palestinians) and its terrorist manifesto.

 

[P F Tinmore]

It is a terrorist organization. The fact that it now runs its own territory doesn't change that.

What makes you think that?

It's terrorist acts (towards Israeli's AND towards other Palestinians) and its terrorist manifesto.

There has been a lot of misinformation put out about that. If you look at the supposed "Hamas" government, (the list of the cabinet is above) you will see a wide variety of parties.

This is a cabinet minister from the unity government. You will see her name listed above.

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[P F Tinmore]

This is another cabinet minister from the unity government. You will see his name listed above.

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[Artevelde]

What makes you think that?

It's terrorist acts (towards Israeli's AND towards other Palestinians) and its terrorist manifesto.

There has been a lot of misinformation put out about that. If you look at the supposed "Hamas" government, (the list of the cabinet is above) you will see a wide variety of parties.

This is a cabinet minister from the unity government. You will see her name listed above.

Facts matter more to me than propaganda.

 

[P F Tinmore]

It's terrorist acts (towards Israeli's AND towards other Palestinians) and its terrorist manifesto.

There has been a lot of misinformation put out about that. If you look at the supposed "Hamas" government, (the list of the cabinet is above) you will see a wide variety of parties.

This is a cabinet minister from the unity government. You will see her name listed above.

Facts matter more to me than propaganda.

Me too. This is the Palestinian speaker of Parliament.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn_60nNDPJ0]Israel and Hamas: no dialogue - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Hossfly]

It is evident that you understand how the children in our government think. If our government is too stupid and lazy to deal with an elected government we need a better government.

The fact that a government is elected doesn't mean we have to approve of its policies or support it. All the polls consistently show the American people overwhelmingly support Israel over the Palestinian Arabs, even when they are sometimes critical of some Israeli actions or policies and this has been true for years, regardless of which party were in power here or which in Israel. If the choices were between Hamas and Israel support for Israel would have been even more overwhelming. In this instance the US government is not being lazy or stupid; it is faithfully representing the opinions of the American people.

...the American people overwhelmingly support Israel...

Public opinion is shifting now that the truth is getting out. Our government should already know the truth.

Tinmore, your data comes from what source? This report dated 12 March 2012 is OFFICIAL U.S.policy information. What is your opinion of this report, especially the part where it states 63% of Americans approve of US/Israel relations and policy? Stop trying to bullshit the bullshitters.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The fact that a government is elected doesn't mean we have to approve of its policies or support it. All the polls consistently show the American people overwhelmingly support Israel over the Palestinian Arabs, even when they are sometimes critical of some Israeli actions or policies and this has been true for years, regardless of which party were in power here or which in Israel. If the choices were between Hamas and Israel support for Israel would have been even more overwhelming. In this instance the US government is not being lazy or stupid; it is faithfully representing the opinions of the American people.

...the American people overwhelmingly support Israel...

Public opinion is shifting now that the truth is getting out. Our government should already know the truth.

Tinmore, your data comes from what source? This report dated 12 March 2012 is OFFICIAL U.S.policy information. What is your opinion of this report, especially the part where it states 63% of Americans approve of US/Israel relations and policy? Stop trying to bullshit the bullshitters.

What was it five or ten years ago? Or, more importantly, what was the support for Palestine five or ten years ago and what is it now?

 

[Hossfly]

Public opinion is shifting now that the truth is getting out. Our government should already know the truth.

Tinmore, your data comes from what source? This report dated 12 March 2012 is OFFICIAL U.S.policy information. What is your opinion of this report, especially the part where it states 63% of Americans approve of US/Israel relations and policy? Stop trying to bullshit the bullshitters.

What was it five or ten years ago? Or, more importantly, what was the support for Palestine five or ten years ago and what is it now?

Tinny, I forgot to insert the link. Here it is. And 5 or 10 years ago signifies what? This report says the 63% is a record high. Arghhhhhhh.

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf

 

[JStone]

Public opinion is shifting now that the truth is getting out. Our government should already know the truth.

Tinmore, your data comes from what source? This report dated 12 March 2012 is OFFICIAL U.S.policy information. What is your opinion of this report, especially the part where it states 63% of Americans approve of US/Israel relations and policy? Stop trying to bullshit the bullshitters.

What was it five or ten years ago? Or, more importantly, what was the support for Palestine five or ten years ago and what is it now?

Palestine is an invented Roman name for Israel under the Roman Empire that dissolved 1500 years ago.

Biblical Historian and Scholar Dr. Paula Fredriksen, Professor of Religion, Boston University; Ph.D, History of Religion, Princeton University; Diploma in Theology, Oxford University

The Judean revolt against Rome was led by [Jewish rebel] Bar Kochba in 132-135 CE. The immediate causes of this rebellion are obscure. Its result was not: [Roman Emperor] Hadrian crushed the revolt and banned Jews from Judea.

The Romans now designated this territory by a political neologism, "Palestine" [a Latin form of "Philistine"], in a deliberate effort to denationalize Jewish/Judean territory. And, finally, Hadrian eradicated Jewish Jerusalem, erecting upon its ruins a new pagan city, Aelia Capitolina.
Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews by Paula Fredriksen - Book - Random House

PBS...

In 70 AD, after a siege marked by starvation and terror crucifixions, the Roman army broke through the walls of Jerusalem. Not only did they kill thousands of Jews, they laid waste to the Temple, the only place on Earth, according to Biblical law, where Jews could worship God.

It was the death of the religion of Priests and sacrifices described by the Hebrew Bible. But, it would not be the death of Judaism. In the years ahead, some of the greatest religious minds in history would struggle to reinvent the religion of Moses and David.

But, the Jews would be forced to work during a period of almost inconceivable bloodshed and turmoil. They would watch their people be expelled from Jerusalem on pain of death and see the name of their homeland changed from Judea to Palestine

 

[Hossfly]

Tinmore, your data comes from what source? This report dated 12 March 2012 is OFFICIAL U.S.policy information. What is your opinion of this report, especially the part where it states 63% of Americans approve of US/Israel relations and policy? Stop trying to bullshit the bullshitters.

What was it five or ten years ago? Or, more importantly, what was the support for Palestine five or ten years ago and what is it now?

Tinny, I forgot to insert the link. Here it is. And 5 or 10 years ago signifies what? This report says the 63% is a record high. Arghhhhhhh.

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf

Now where did Tinmore slink off to? We all know he can't be bothered with factual proof. Tinny, them Palestinians ain't rock stars this year. Grin and bear it.

 

[MJB12741]

Since the Palestinian people themselves elected Hamas, Palestinians have been killing Palestinians in record numbers over who will rule them. Long live Hamas.