Israel's Contributions To Peace, Mankind & Civilization

[P F Tinmore]

Tinmore, your data comes from what source? This report dated 12 March 2012 is OFFICIAL U.S.policy information. What is your opinion of this report, especially the part where it states 63% of Americans approve of US/Israel relations and policy? Stop trying to bullshit the bullshitters.

What was it five or ten years ago? Or, more importantly, what was the support for Palestine five or ten years ago and what is it now?

Tinny, I forgot to insert the link. Here it is. And 5 or 10 years ago signifies what? This report says the 63% is a record high. Arghhhhhhh.

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf

What happens over time shows trends. The Palestinians have been trending up for several years.

 

[JStone]

What was it five or ten years ago? Or, more importantly, what was the support for Palestine five or ten years ago and what is it now?

Tinny, I forgot to insert the link. Here it is. And 5 or 10 years ago signifies what? This report says the 63% is a record high. Arghhhhhhh.

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf

What happens over time shows trends. The Palestinians have been trending up for several years.

Fakestinians are doomed.

BBC: How Israel Became A High-Tech Hub

Tiny Israel, a country embroiled in conflicts for decades, has managed to transform itself from a stretch of farmland into a high-tech wonder

Israel currently has almost 4,000 active technology start-ups - more than any other country outside the United States, according to Israel Venture Capital Research Centre

In 2010 alone the flow of venture capital amounted to $884m (£558m).

The result: high-tech exports from Israel are valued at about $18.4bn a year, making up more than 45% of Israel's exports, according to the Central Bureau of Statistics

Israel is a world leader in terms of research and development spending as a percentage of the economy; it's top in both the number of start-ups and engineers as a proportion of the population; and it's first in per capita venture capital investment. Not bad for a country of some eight million people - fewer than, say, Moscow or New York.

Over just a few decades, Israeli start-ups have developed groundbreaking technologies in areas such as computing, clean technology and life sciences, to name a few.
BBC News - How Israel turned itself into a high-tech hub

The Economist Magazine: Arab World Self-Doomed To Failure

WHAT went wrong with the Arab world? Why is it so stuck behind the times? It is not an obviously unlucky region. Fatly endowed with oil, and with its people sharing a rich cultural, religious and linguistic heritage, it is faced neither with endemic poverty nor with ethnic conflict. But, with barely an exception, its autocratic rulers, whether presidents or kings, give up their authority only when they die; its elections are a sick joke; half its people are treated as lesser legal and economic beings, and more than half its young, burdened by joblessness and stifled by conservative religious tradition, are said to want to get out of the place as soon as they can.

One in five Arabs still live on less than $2 a day. And, over the past 20 years, growth in income per head, at an annual rate of 0.5%, was lower than anywhere else in the world except sub-Saharan Africa. At this rate, it will take the average Arab 140 years to double his income, a target that some regions are set to reach in less than ten years. Stagnant growth, together with a fast-rising population, means vanishing jobs. Around 12m people, or 15% of the labour force, are already unemployed, and on present trends the number could rise to 25m by 2010.

Freedom. This deficit explains many of the fundamental things that are wrong with the Arab world: the survival of absolute autocracies; the holding of bogus elections; confusion between the executive and the judiciary (the report points out the close linguistic link between the two in Arabic); constraints on the media and on civil society; and a patriarchal, intolerant, sometimes suffocating social environment. The great wave of democratisation that has opened up so much of the world over the past 15 years seems to have left the Arabs untouched. Democracy is occasionally offered, but as a concession, not as a right. Freedom of expression and freedom of association are both sharply limited. Freedom House, an American-based monitor of political and civil rights, records that no Arab country has genuinely free media, and only three have “partly free”. The rest are not free

Knowledge. “If God were to humiliate a human being,” wrote Imam Ali bin abi Taleb in the sixth century, “He would deny him knowledge.” Although the Arabs spend a higher percentage of GDP on education than any other developing region, it is not, it seems, well spent. The quality of education has deteriorated pitifully, and there is a severe mismatch between the labour market and the education system. Adult illiteracy rates have declined but are still very high: 65m adults are illiterate, almost two-thirds of them women. Some 10m children still have no schooling at all. One of the gravest results of their poor education is that the Arabs, who once led the world in science, are dropping ever further behind in scientific research and in information technology. Investment in research and development is less than one-seventh of the world average. Only 0.6% of the population uses the Internet, and 1.2% have personal computers.

Women's status. The one thing that every outsider knows about the Arab world is that it does not treat its women as full citizens. How can a society prosper when it stifles half its productive potential? After all, even though women's literacy rates have trebled in the past 30 years, one in every two Arab women still can neither read nor write. Their participation in their countries' political and economic life is the lowest in the world.

Arab development: Self-doomed to failure | The Economist

 

[MJB12741]

Israeli's praise life. Paestinians praise death. Why not give both sides what they want & LET THERE BE PEACE ALREADY!

 

[MJB12741]

Here is a problem that must be addressed if there is to be valid hope for peace betwewen Israel & the Palestinians.

Netanyahu should invite, encourage & welcome a meeting with the leaders of Hamas, the duly elected government of the Palestinian people. Only then can he tell them that the next time Hamas kills an Israeli, Israel will retaliate by killing 10,000 Palestinians. A few rounds of this & there will be a lasting peace. As was proven by Jordan's king Hussein, it's all just a matter of communicating with the Palestinians in the only language they understand & respect. LET THERE BE PEACE ALREADY!

There has been a lot of misinformation put out about that. If you look at the supposed "Hamas" government, (the list of the cabinet is above) you will see a wide variety of parties.

This is a cabinet minister from the unity government. You will see her name listed above.

Facts matter more to me than propaganda.

Me too. This is the Palestinian speaker of Parliament.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn_60nNDPJ0]Israel and Hamas: no dialogue - YouTube[/ame]

 

[P F Tinmore]

Here is a problem that must be addressed if there is to be valid hope for peace betwewen Israel & the Palestinians.

Netanyahu should invite, encourage & welcome a meeting with the leaders of Hamas, the duly elected government of the Palestinian people. Only then can he tell them that the next time Hamas kills an Israeli, Israel will retaliate by killing 10,000 Palestinians. A few rounds of this & there will be a lasting peace. As was proven by Jordan's king Hussein, it's all just a matter of communicating with the Palestinians in the only language they understand & respect. LET THERE BE PEACE ALREADY!

Facts matter more to me than propaganda.

Me too. This is the Palestinian speaker of Parliament.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn_60nNDPJ0]Israel and Hamas: no dialogue - YouTube[/ame]

I posted three videos. Two were cabinet ministers from the unacceptable "Hamas" government of 2007. The other is an interview with the Palestinian speaker of parliament. Also I may add that the minister of finance was Salem Fayyad.

I am waiting for responses to those videos.

 

[MJB12741]

You already received my response. Israel should invite, encourage & welcome Hamas leaders to discuss peace. Netanyahu should then tell the Hamas leaders that from now on, each time Hamas kills an Israeli, Israel will retalliate by killing 10,000 Palestinians. And then Netanyahu should should ask the Hamas leaders, what else would you like to discuss? LET THERE BE PEACE ALREADY!

Here is a problem that must be addressed if there is to be valid hope for peace betwewen Israel & the Palestinians.

Netanyahu should invite, encourage & welcome a meeting with the leaders of Hamas, the duly elected government of the Palestinian people. Only then can he tell them that the next time Hamas kills an Israeli, Israel will retaliate by killing 10,000 Palestinians. A few rounds of this & there will be a lasting peace. As was proven by Jordan's king Hussein, it's all just a matter of communicating with the Palestinians in the only language they understand & respect. LET THERE BE PEACE ALREADY!

Me too. This is the Palestinian speaker of Parliament.

Israel and Hamas: no dialogue - YouTube

I posted three videos. Two were cabinet ministers from the unacceptable "Hamas" government of 2007. The other is an interview with the Palestinian speaker of parliament. Also I may add that the minister of finance was Salem Fayyad.

I am waiting for responses to those videos.

 

[MJB12741]

I find it interesting how the Palestinian squatters on Israel's land hate Israel & yet not a single Palestinian Israeli citizen has opted to leave Israel to return back to their indigenous Arab homeland.

 

[Jos]

I find it interesting how the Palestinian squatters on Israel's land hate Israel & yet not a single Palestinian Israeli citizen has opted to leave Israel to return back to their indigenous Arab homeland.

They are home, It's the Jewish immigrants that need to go back to their indigenous Russian homelands

 

[P F Tinmore]

I find it interesting how the Palestinian squatters on Israel's land hate Israel & yet not a single Palestinian Israeli citizen has opted to leave Israel to return back to their indigenous Arab homeland.

That is their homeland even though it is occupied by Israel.

 

[MJB12741]

Oh now I get it. The Muslim Palestinians were already there on ancient Israel's land.

I find it interesting how the Palestinian squatters on Israel's land hate Israel & yet not a single Palestinian Israeli citizen has opted to leave Israel to return back to their indigenous Arab homeland.

That is their homeland even though it is occupied by Israel.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Oh now I get it. The Muslim Palestinians were already there on ancient Israel's land.

I find it interesting how the Palestinian squatters on Israel's land hate Israel & yet not a single Palestinian Israeli citizen has opted to leave Israel to return back to their indigenous Arab homeland.

That is their homeland even though it is occupied by Israel.

A lot of Palestinians converted to Islam. It was not like everybody moved out and the Muslims moved in. Same people, different religion.

 

[MJB12741]

Oh that makes sense. The Jews converted to Islam. And now Israel is stealing "Palestinian land" from the Jews.

Oh now I get it. The Muslim Palestinians were already there on ancient Israel's land.

That is their homeland even though it is occupied by Israel.

A lot of Palestinians converted to Islam. It was not like everybody moved out and the Muslims moved in. Same people, different religion.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Oh that makes sense. The Jews converted to Islam. And now Israel is stealing "Palestinian land" from the Jews.

Oh now I get it. The Muslim Palestinians were already there on ancient Israel's land.

A lot of Palestinians converted to Islam. It was not like everybody moved out and the Muslims moved in. Same people, different religion.

Indeed.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z03FR-JzRug]The Hidden Palestinian Jews part 1 of 2 - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDEOdJjISXA&feature=relmfu]The Hidden Palestinian Jews part 2 of 2 - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Hossfly]

Oh now I get it. The Muslim Palestinians were already there on ancient Israel's land.

That is their homeland even though it is occupied by Israel.

A lot of Palestinians converted to Islam. It was not like everybody moved out and the Muslims moved in. Same people, different religion.

Tinmore, I'm curious about the thread subject. Have you or any of your fellow Freedom Fighters made any contributions to Peace, Mankind and Civilization? Please list them in chronological order. You can answer anytime in the next 30 days.

 

[MJB12741]

Aw, bless you Tinmore for proving to us that Israel is stealing Palestinian land that was Jewish land long before there were any Muslims, let alone Muslim Palestinians to steal it from the Jews of Israel.

Oh that makes sense. The Jews converted to Islam. And now Israel is stealing "Palestinian land" from the Jews.

A lot of Palestinians converted to Islam. It was not like everybody moved out and the Muslims moved in. Same people, different religion.

Indeed.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z03FR-JzRug]The Hidden Palestinian Jews part 1 of 2 - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDEOdJjISXA&feature=relmfu]The Hidden Palestinian Jews part 2 of 2 - YouTube[/ame]

 

[P F Tinmore]

Aw, bless you Tinmore for proving to us that Israel is stealing Palestinian land that was Jewish land long before there were any Muslims, let alone Muslim Palestinians to steal it from the Jews of Israel.

Oh that makes sense. The Jews converted to Islam. And now Israel is stealing "Palestinian land" from the Jews.

Indeed.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z03FR-JzRug]The Hidden Palestinian Jews part 1 of 2 - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDEOdJjISXA&feature=relmfu]The Hidden Palestinian Jews part 2 of 2 - YouTube[/ame]

The Palestinians are Palestinians no matter their past and Israel is a foreign creation.

It is not hard to tell who is doing the stealing.

 

[MJB12741]

Aha! So then, there was no Israel until 1948. That's when they became the Israelites, right?

Aw, bless you Tinmore for proving to us that Israel is stealing Palestinian land that was Jewish land long before there were any Muslims, let alone Muslim Palestinians to steal it from the Jews of Israel.

Indeed.

The Hidden Palestinian Jews part 1 of 2 - YouTube

The Hidden Palestinian Jews part 2 of 2 - YouTube

The Palestinians are Palestinians no matter their past and Israel is a foreign creation.

It is not hard to tell who is doing the stealing.

 

[Hossfly]

Aha! So then, there was no Israel until 1948. That's when they became the Israelites, right?

Aw, bless you Tinmore for proving to us that Israel is stealing Palestinian land that was Jewish land long before there were any Muslims, let alone Muslim Palestinians to steal it from the Jews of Israel.

The Palestinians are Palestinians no matter their past and Israel is a foreign creation.

It is not hard to tell who is doing the stealing.

Israelites are a figment of Tinmore's fertile imagination. Like the Easter 'possum.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Oh now I get it. The Muslim Palestinians were already there on ancient Israel's land.

A lot of Palestinians converted to Islam. It was not like everybody moved out and the Muslims moved in. Same people, different religion.

Tinmore, I'm curious about the thread subject. Have you or any of your fellow Freedom Fighters made any contributions to Peace, Mankind and Civilization? Please list them in chronological order. You can answer anytime in the next 30 days.

Sure, trying to end the occupation.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Aha! So then, there was no Israel until 1948. That's when they became the Israelites, right?

Aw, bless you Tinmore for proving to us that Israel is stealing Palestinian land that was Jewish land long before there were any Muslims, let alone Muslim Palestinians to steal it from the Jews of Israel.

The Palestinians are Palestinians no matter their past and Israel is a foreign creation.

It is not hard to tell who is doing the stealing.

BTW, how about posting a 1948 map of Israel?