Israeli and U.S. Groups sued for $34.5 Billion For Funding Settlements

[P F Tinmore]

et al,

There are certain assumptions here that are false.

Nutandyahoo still banging on about his terrorist propaganda campaign.

And you are still trying to justify islamonazi terrorism and violence

Looks like "Palestinians" would benefit from ending their rocket firings, but they're so fucking stupid they won't.

Israel thinks that killing a lot of civilians and destroying a lot of civilian infrastructure is winning.
Actually they are shooting themselves in the foot,.

Israel thinks that killing a lot of civilians and destroying a lot of civilian infrastructure is winning.

Your terrorist buddies think killing a lot of civilians, whether Jews or Arabs, is winning.

(COMMENT)

On the Palestinian Side:

• Khartoum Resolution (1967)

∆ No peace with Israel,
∆ No recognition of Israel,
∆ No negotiations with Israel.
​

• PLO Charter (1988)

∆ Armed struggle is the only way to liberate Palestine. This is the overall strategy, not merely a tactical phase.
∆ Commando (Feday'ee) action constitutes the nucleus of the Palestinian popular liberation war.
∆ The partition of Palestine in 1947, and the establishment of the state of Israel are entirely illegal, regardless of the passage of time, because they were contrary to the will of the Palestinian people and its natural right in their homeland, and were inconsistent with the principles embodied in the Charter of the United Nations, particularly the right to self-determination.
∆ The Arab Palestinian people, expressing themselves by armed Palestinian revolution, reject all solutions which are substitutes for the total liberation of Palestine and reject all proposals aimed at the liquidation of the Palestinian cause, or at its internationalization.
​

• Islamic Resistance Movement (1988)

∆ Jihad is its path and death for the sake of Allah is the loftiest of its wishes.
∆ There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad.
∆ The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day.
∆ Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement. Abusing any part of Palestine is abuse directed against part of religion.
∆ Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.
​

• Vision and Strategy of HAMAS; reflecting the practical application of its strategies.

∆ Palestine, from its [Jordan] river to its [Mediterranean] sea, from its north to its south, is the land of the Palestinian people; it is their homeland and their legitimate right.
∆ Palestine, in its entirety, is an Arab and Islamic land.
∆ The liberation of Palestine is a national, domestic and legitimate duty. It is the responsibility of the Palestinians, the Arabs and the Islamic ummah.
∆ Jihad and armed resistance is the correct and authentic means for the liberation of Palestine and the restoration of all rights.
​

From the Arab Palestinian perspective --- there is no incentive to settle the conflict by peaceful means. They will continue the conflict until such time as they are able to apply sufficient political pressure that will overturn recommendations adopted in General Assembly Resolution [181(II)].

Combining all these statement, wherein the Hostile Arab Palestinians identifies themselves as Jihadist that:

• Threaten to use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Israel.
• Violate the existing international boundaries of Israel as a means of solving international disputes,
• Decline to pursue in good faith negotiations for the early conclusion of a universal treaty.
• Disseminates information designed to provoke or encourage conflict; and threaten the peace, or induce act of aggression;
• Palestinian terrorists who dress as civilians
• Palestinians targeting civilians
• Palestinians performing Acts of violence the primary purpose of which is to spread terror among the civilian population are prohibited.
• Locating valid military objectives inside Densely Populated Areas
• Failure to evacuate Civilians and remove Civilian Objects from the Vicinity of Military Operations.
• Conducting bombings, kidnapping and murder, hijackings, piracy, and other asymmetric operations directed against noncombatants.
​

This outlines, in thumbnail form, the general character and nature of the Hostile Arab Palestinian.

Most Respectfully,
R

Maybe Israel should have colonized a different country.

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Maybe the establishment of settlements within the territory the Ottoman Empire/Turkish Republic renounces all rights and title, to the Allied Powers, had nothing to do with your assertion here.

Maybe Israel should have colonized a different country.

(COMMENT)

You keep forgetting that the territory to which the Mandate applied was not under Arab Palestinian sovereignty; --- not in 1920 when the San Remo Convention hammered-out the implementation process of a Jewish National Home and created the framework of the Mandate, ---and --- not in the 800 years prior to the 1918 Mudros Armistice which was concluded the hostilities in the Middle Eastern theatre of war between the Ottoman Empire and the Allied Powers.

The immigration and settlement of the Jewish people in the territory to which the Mandate Applied, was encouraged by the Allied Powers --- for all Jews who are willing to assist in the establishment of the Jewish national home.

Whatever you want to call it, and however negatively you want to portray it, the fact of the matter is that
all rights and title over the territories where accepted by the Allied Powers. ... And the future of these territories were to be settled by the parties (not including the Arab Palestinians) concerned that issue.

Maybe the Arab Palestinians should have chosen more wisely.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[montelatici]

No, the British contravened the Covenant of the League of Nations, Article 20, 22 and 23. Transferring colonizing Europeans to Palestine contravened all these articles.

ARTICLE 20.
The Members of the League severally agree that this Covenant is accepted as abrogating all obligations or understandings inter se which are inconsistent with the terms thereof, and solemnly undertake that they will not hereafter enter into any engagements inconsistent with the terms thereof.

In case any Member of the League shall, before becoming a Member of the League, have undertaken any obligations inconsistent with the terms of this Covenant, it shall be the duty of such Member to take immediate steps to procure its release from such obligations.

ARTICLE 22.
To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilisation and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant.

ARTICLE 23.
Subject to and in accordance with the provisions of international conventions existing or hereafter to be agreed upon, the Members of the League:


(b) undertake to secure just treatment of the native inhabitants of territories under their control;

Avalon Project - The Covenant of the League of Nations

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Maybe the establishment of settlements within the territory the Ottoman Empire/Turkish Republic renounces all rights and title, to the Allied Powers, had nothing to do with your assertion here.

Maybe Israel should have colonized a different country.

(COMMENT)

You keep forgetting that the territory to which the Mandate applied was not under Arab Palestinian sovereignty; --- not in 1920 when the San Remo Convention hammered-out the implementation process of a Jewish National Home and created the framework of the Mandate, ---and --- not in the 800 years prior to the 1918 Mudros Armistice which was concluded the hostilities in the Middle Eastern theatre of war between the Ottoman Empire and the Allied Powers.

The immigration and settlement of the Jewish people in the territory to which the Mandate Applied, was encouraged by the Allied Powers --- for all Jews who are willing to assist in the establishment of the Jewish national home.

Whatever you want to call it, and however negatively you want to portray it, the fact of the matter is that
all rights and title over the territories where accepted by the Allied Powers. ... And the future of these territories were to be settled by the parties (not including the Arab Palestinians) concerned that issue.

Maybe the Arab Palestinians should have chosen more wisely.

Most Respectfully,
R

That doesn't change my post one bit.

Maybe the Arab Palestinians should have chosen more wisely.​

They did. They chose the US to be the Mandatory, like specified in the LoN Covenant, but instead they got fucking Britain.

We could have avoided a hundred year, and counting, war.

 

[Slyhunter]

et al,

There are certain assumptions here that are false.

And you are still trying to justify islamonazi terrorism and violence

Looks like "Palestinians" would benefit from ending their rocket firings, but they're so fucking stupid they won't.

Israel thinks that killing a lot of civilians and destroying a lot of civilian infrastructure is winning.
Actually they are shooting themselves in the foot,.

Israel thinks that killing a lot of civilians and destroying a lot of civilian infrastructure is winning.

Your terrorist buddies think killing a lot of civilians, whether Jews or Arabs, is winning.

(COMMENT)

On the Palestinian Side:

• Khartoum Resolution (1967)

∆ No peace with Israel,
∆ No recognition of Israel,
∆ No negotiations with Israel.
​

• PLO Charter (1988)

∆ Armed struggle is the only way to liberate Palestine. This is the overall strategy, not merely a tactical phase.
∆ Commando (Feday'ee) action constitutes the nucleus of the Palestinian popular liberation war.
∆ The partition of Palestine in 1947, and the establishment of the state of Israel are entirely illegal, regardless of the passage of time, because they were contrary to the will of the Palestinian people and its natural right in their homeland, and were inconsistent with the principles embodied in the Charter of the United Nations, particularly the right to self-determination.
∆ The Arab Palestinian people, expressing themselves by armed Palestinian revolution, reject all solutions which are substitutes for the total liberation of Palestine and reject all proposals aimed at the liquidation of the Palestinian cause, or at its internationalization.
​

• Islamic Resistance Movement (1988)

∆ Jihad is its path and death for the sake of Allah is the loftiest of its wishes.
∆ There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad.
∆ The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day.
∆ Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement. Abusing any part of Palestine is abuse directed against part of religion.
∆ Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.
​

• Vision and Strategy of HAMAS; reflecting the practical application of its strategies.

∆ Palestine, from its [Jordan] river to its [Mediterranean] sea, from its north to its south, is the land of the Palestinian people; it is their homeland and their legitimate right.
∆ Palestine, in its entirety, is an Arab and Islamic land.
∆ The liberation of Palestine is a national, domestic and legitimate duty. It is the responsibility of the Palestinians, the Arabs and the Islamic ummah.
∆ Jihad and armed resistance is the correct and authentic means for the liberation of Palestine and the restoration of all rights.
​

From the Arab Palestinian perspective --- there is no incentive to settle the conflict by peaceful means. They will continue the conflict until such time as they are able to apply sufficient political pressure that will overturn recommendations adopted in General Assembly Resolution [181(II)].

Combining all these statement, wherein the Hostile Arab Palestinians identifies themselves as Jihadist that:

• Threaten to use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Israel.
• Violate the existing international boundaries of Israel as a means of solving international disputes,
• Decline to pursue in good faith negotiations for the early conclusion of a universal treaty.
• Disseminates information designed to provoke or encourage conflict; and threaten the peace, or induce act of aggression;
• Palestinian terrorists who dress as civilians
• Palestinians targeting civilians
• Palestinians performing Acts of violence the primary purpose of which is to spread terror among the civilian population are prohibited.
• Locating valid military objectives inside Densely Populated Areas
• Failure to evacuate Civilians and remove Civilian Objects from the Vicinity of Military Operations.
• Conducting bombings, kidnapping and murder, hijackings, piracy, and other asymmetric operations directed against noncombatants.
​

This outlines, in thumbnail form, the general character and nature of the Hostile Arab Palestinian.

Most Respectfully,
R

Maybe Israel should have colonized a different country.

Israel was given to the Jews by God so why in the fuck would they colonize elsewhere?

 

[P F Tinmore]

et al,

There are certain assumptions here that are false.

Looks like "Palestinians" would benefit from ending their rocket firings, but they're so fucking stupid they won't.

Israel thinks that killing a lot of civilians and destroying a lot of civilian infrastructure is winning.
Actually they are shooting themselves in the foot,.

Israel thinks that killing a lot of civilians and destroying a lot of civilian infrastructure is winning.

Your terrorist buddies think killing a lot of civilians, whether Jews or Arabs, is winning.

(COMMENT)

On the Palestinian Side:

• Khartoum Resolution (1967)

∆ No peace with Israel,
∆ No recognition of Israel,
∆ No negotiations with Israel.
​

• PLO Charter (1988)

∆ Armed struggle is the only way to liberate Palestine. This is the overall strategy, not merely a tactical phase.
∆ Commando (Feday'ee) action constitutes the nucleus of the Palestinian popular liberation war.
∆ The partition of Palestine in 1947, and the establishment of the state of Israel are entirely illegal, regardless of the passage of time, because they were contrary to the will of the Palestinian people and its natural right in their homeland, and were inconsistent with the principles embodied in the Charter of the United Nations, particularly the right to self-determination.
∆ The Arab Palestinian people, expressing themselves by armed Palestinian revolution, reject all solutions which are substitutes for the total liberation of Palestine and reject all proposals aimed at the liquidation of the Palestinian cause, or at its internationalization.
​

• Islamic Resistance Movement (1988)

∆ Jihad is its path and death for the sake of Allah is the loftiest of its wishes.
∆ There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad.
∆ The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day.
∆ Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement. Abusing any part of Palestine is abuse directed against part of religion.
∆ Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.
​

• Vision and Strategy of HAMAS; reflecting the practical application of its strategies.

∆ Palestine, from its [Jordan] river to its [Mediterranean] sea, from its north to its south, is the land of the Palestinian people; it is their homeland and their legitimate right.
∆ Palestine, in its entirety, is an Arab and Islamic land.
∆ The liberation of Palestine is a national, domestic and legitimate duty. It is the responsibility of the Palestinians, the Arabs and the Islamic ummah.
∆ Jihad and armed resistance is the correct and authentic means for the liberation of Palestine and the restoration of all rights.
​

From the Arab Palestinian perspective --- there is no incentive to settle the conflict by peaceful means. They will continue the conflict until such time as they are able to apply sufficient political pressure that will overturn recommendations adopted in General Assembly Resolution [181(II)].

Combining all these statement, wherein the Hostile Arab Palestinians identifies themselves as Jihadist that:

• Threaten to use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Israel.
• Violate the existing international boundaries of Israel as a means of solving international disputes,
• Decline to pursue in good faith negotiations for the early conclusion of a universal treaty.
• Disseminates information designed to provoke or encourage conflict; and threaten the peace, or induce act of aggression;
• Palestinian terrorists who dress as civilians
• Palestinians targeting civilians
• Palestinians performing Acts of violence the primary purpose of which is to spread terror among the civilian population are prohibited.
• Locating valid military objectives inside Densely Populated Areas
• Failure to evacuate Civilians and remove Civilian Objects from the Vicinity of Military Operations.
• Conducting bombings, kidnapping and murder, hijackings, piracy, and other asymmetric operations directed against noncombatants.
​

This outlines, in thumbnail form, the general character and nature of the Hostile Arab Palestinian.

Most Respectfully,
R

Maybe Israel should have colonized a different country.

Israel was given to the Jews by God so why in the fuck would they colonize elsewhere?

Ahhh, the great realtor in the sky.

 

[Kondor3]

Unreal isn't it.

US taxpayers paid more to Israeli defense budget than Israelis

By Alison Weir on September 17, 2012

American taxpayers give Israel over $3 billion per year (over $8 million per day), more than to any other nation, despite the fact that Israel is smaller than New Jersey and is in the top 30 richest countries in the world.

The Israeli army’s chief of staff states that in the past three years, “US taxpayers have contributed more to the Israeli defense budget than Israeli taxpayers,” according to a report in the Jerusalem Post, a prominent Israeli newspaper.

Some of the other top recipients of US tax money, Egypt and Jordan, were provided this assistance in return for diplomatic recognition of the Israeli state.

According to the Congressional Research Service, Israel is given this money in a lump sum at the beginning of the fiscal year. Americans then pay interest on money they have given to Israel, while Israel makes interest on it.


US taxpayers paid more to Israeli defense budget than Israelis | Veterans News Now

I agree, awful! We should give money to send the Arabs living there to Syria.
Lots of room, no pesky Jews to blame for their failures.

So you can live on their land, is that why the Israelites created chaos in Syria.

The Syrians created the chaos in Syria.

Another failed "Arab Spring" initiative.

Frigging moronic A-Rabs...

 

[Roudy]

et al,

There are certain assumptions here that are false.

Looks like "Palestinians" would benefit from ending their rocket firings, but they're so fucking stupid they won't.

Israel thinks that killing a lot of civilians and destroying a lot of civilian infrastructure is winning.
Actually they are shooting themselves in the foot,.

Israel thinks that killing a lot of civilians and destroying a lot of civilian infrastructure is winning.

Your terrorist buddies think killing a lot of civilians, whether Jews or Arabs, is winning.

(COMMENT)

On the Palestinian Side:

• Khartoum Resolution (1967)

∆ No peace with Israel,
∆ No recognition of Israel,
∆ No negotiations with Israel.
​

• PLO Charter (1988)

∆ Armed struggle is the only way to liberate Palestine. This is the overall strategy, not merely a tactical phase.
∆ Commando (Feday'ee) action constitutes the nucleus of the Palestinian popular liberation war.
∆ The partition of Palestine in 1947, and the establishment of the state of Israel are entirely illegal, regardless of the passage of time, because they were contrary to the will of the Palestinian people and its natural right in their homeland, and were inconsistent with the principles embodied in the Charter of the United Nations, particularly the right to self-determination.
∆ The Arab Palestinian people, expressing themselves by armed Palestinian revolution, reject all solutions which are substitutes for the total liberation of Palestine and reject all proposals aimed at the liquidation of the Palestinian cause, or at its internationalization.
​

• Islamic Resistance Movement (1988)

∆ Jihad is its path and death for the sake of Allah is the loftiest of its wishes.
∆ There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad.
∆ The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day.
∆ Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement. Abusing any part of Palestine is abuse directed against part of religion.
∆ Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.
​

• Vision and Strategy of HAMAS; reflecting the practical application of its strategies.

∆ Palestine, from its [Jordan] river to its [Mediterranean] sea, from its north to its south, is the land of the Palestinian people; it is their homeland and their legitimate right.
∆ Palestine, in its entirety, is an Arab and Islamic land.
∆ The liberation of Palestine is a national, domestic and legitimate duty. It is the responsibility of the Palestinians, the Arabs and the Islamic ummah.
∆ Jihad and armed resistance is the correct and authentic means for the liberation of Palestine and the restoration of all rights.
​

From the Arab Palestinian perspective --- there is no incentive to settle the conflict by peaceful means. They will continue the conflict until such time as they are able to apply sufficient political pressure that will overturn recommendations adopted in General Assembly Resolution [181(II)].

Combining all these statement, wherein the Hostile Arab Palestinians identifies themselves as Jihadist that:

• Threaten to use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Israel.
• Violate the existing international boundaries of Israel as a means of solving international disputes,
• Decline to pursue in good faith negotiations for the early conclusion of a universal treaty.
• Disseminates information designed to provoke or encourage conflict; and threaten the peace, or induce act of aggression;
• Palestinian terrorists who dress as civilians
• Palestinians targeting civilians
• Palestinians performing Acts of violence the primary purpose of which is to spread terror among the civilian population are prohibited.
• Locating valid military objectives inside Densely Populated Areas
• Failure to evacuate Civilians and remove Civilian Objects from the Vicinity of Military Operations.
• Conducting bombings, kidnapping and murder, hijackings, piracy, and other asymmetric operations directed against noncombatants.
​

This outlines, in thumbnail form, the general character and nature of the Hostile Arab Palestinian.

Most Respectfully,
R

Maybe Israel should have colonized a different country.

Israel was given to the Jews by God so why in the fuck would they colonize elsewhere?

Ahhh, the great realtor in the sky.

As opposed to the great invader from Mecca?

 

[RoccoR]

montelatici, et al,

I'm not sure you are doing anything here but manipulating the truth.

No, the British contravened the Covenant of the League of Nations, Article 20, 22 and 23. Transferring colonizing Europeans to Palestine contravened all these articles.

ARTICLE 20.
The Members of the League severally agree that this Covenant is accepted as abrogating all obligations or understandings inter se which are inconsistent with the terms thereof, and solemnly undertake that they will not hereafter enter into any engagements inconsistent with the terms thereof.

In case any Member of the League shall, before becoming a Member of the League, have undertaken any obligations inconsistent with the terms of this Covenant, it shall be the duty of such Member to take immediate steps to procure its release from such obligations.

ARTICLE 22.
To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilisation and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant.

ARTICLE 23.
Subject to and in accordance with the provisions of international conventions existing or hereafter to be agreed upon, the Members of the League:


(b) undertake to secure just treatment of the native inhabitants of territories under their control;

Avalon Project - The Covenant of the League of Nations

(COMMENT)

Did the Allied Powers, members of the League, ever say that the Covenant was violated?

All we've heard from the Palestinians, is that the League did this and the Mandatory did that, and that this or that violation was committed.

Well sorry about that. At the time the Mandate was written, the League of Nations felt there was a need for the establishment of the Jewish National Home. The fact that the Arab Palestinians, former an enemy population, felt that they should have a say, or that they should be allowed (as non-member) to determine what should have been done, was irrelevant. There were no Arab members of the LoNs in 1920 --- in fact not until 1937. And, there were very few Sovereign Powers of a Abar population.

What rights did the Arabs have in 1922 when the Mandate was written? Well they did not have any "rights or title" to the territory. (ARTICLE 16 of the Lausanne Treaty)

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Boston1]

The blithering idiocy involved in the antisemitic rhetoric is amazing.

Blatant denial, cognitive dissonance, wow.

Some young psych student could really put him/her self on the map with any one of the racists here.

I should put a note on the psych dep board and see if anyone wants a thesis paper.

 

[Shusha]

Maybe Israel should have colonized a different country.

The Jewish people were not colonizing a place because they thought they would be welcome there or because there was lots of empty space. The Jewish people were not colonizing at all. The Jewish people were returning to a homeland from which they were forcibly removed -- a homeland of great physical and emotional connection. A homeland from which we grew and became established and created a history.

Why is the Jewish attachment to our homeland so much LESS of significance than the Palestinian attachment to their home?

If your response is the solution to the conflict -- why don't we just remove all the Palestinians to their own territory -- suggestions have so far included the US generally, Wisconsin specifically, Uganda, Madagascar and I believe Western Australia. Which would the Palestinians like to have?

 

[Boston1]

Given that the vast majority of Arab Muslims in Israel colonized the area in the early to mid 20th century I don't see what Tinmore and the terrorist brothers are complaining about.

I couldn't give a rats ass if the Arab Muslims of Israel want a country of their own. I just don't think it should be anywhere outside of their native homeland, the Arab peninsula. Let one of the Arab Muslim countries offer up some dirt. ;--)

What cracks me up in this thread reminded me to make my donation fast while I'm still working on my taxes. ;--)

 

[Kondor3]

...(b) undertake to secure just treatment of the native inhabitants of territories under their control; ...

This was accomplished.

Israeli settlements are only being built within the boundaries of the old proposed Jewish Palestine.

The native inhabitants were justly accorded the lion's share of the disputed lands...

East of the Jordan River...

A surprising and atypical accommodation...

Given how many times Euro-Trash imperialists had shoved various Natives into a tiny backwater, to die slowly.

The dumb-ass Arabs should have taken the deal while they still had a choice.

Then again, nobody has ever accused them of being particularly intelligent.

 

[Kondor3]

Maybe Israel should have colonized a different country.

The Jewish people were not colonizing a place because they thought they would be welcome there or because there was lots of empty space. The Jewish people were not colonizing at all. The Jewish people were returning to a homeland from which they were forcibly removed -- a homeland of great physical and emotional connection. A homeland from which we grew and became established and created a history.

Why is the Jewish attachment to our homeland so much LESS of significance than the Palestinian attachment to their home?

If your response is the solution to the conflict -- why don't we just remove all the Palestinians to their own territory -- suggestions have so far included the US generally, Wisconsin specifically, Uganda, Madagascar and I believe Western Australia. Which would the Palestinians like to have?

Let the Saudis or Syrians or Jordanians or Somalians deal with them.

No point in inflicting 4-5 million Arab losers on any part of modern Christendom.

Rather than penalizing NPOs for funding Israeli settlements...

Why don't we encourage NPOs to fund a resettlement of the dumb-ass Palestinians, in some other part of the Muslim world?

Let the Arabs deal with their own mad dogs.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Unreal isn't it.

US taxpayers paid more to Israeli defense budget than Israelis

By Alison Weir on September 17, 2012

American taxpayers give Israel over $3 billion per year (over $8 million per day), more than to any other nation, despite the fact that Israel is smaller than New Jersey and is in the top 30 richest countries in the world.

The Israeli army’s chief of staff states that in the past three years, “US taxpayers have contributed more to the Israeli defense budget than Israeli taxpayers,” according to a report in the Jerusalem Post, a prominent Israeli newspaper.

Some of the other top recipients of US tax money, Egypt and Jordan, were provided this assistance in return for diplomatic recognition of the Israeli state.

According to the Congressional Research Service, Israel is given this money in a lump sum at the beginning of the fiscal year. Americans then pay interest on money they have given to Israel, while Israel makes interest on it.


US taxpayers paid more to Israeli defense budget than Israelis | Veterans News Now

I agree, awful! We should give money to send the Arabs living there to Syria.
Lots of room, no pesky Jews to blame for their failures.

So you can live on their land, is that why the Israelites created chaos in Syria.

The Syrians created the chaos in Syria.

Another failed "Arab Spring" initiative.

Frigging moronic A-Rabs...

Arab and Muslim supporters always blame everything wrong with that world on Israel.

 

[Lipush]

Unreal isn't it.

US taxpayers paid more to Israeli defense budget than Israelis

By Alison Weir on September 17, 2012

American taxpayers give Israel over $3 billion per year (over $8 million per day), more than to any other nation, despite the fact that Israel is smaller than New Jersey and is in the top 30 richest countries in the world.

The Israeli army’s chief of staff states that in the past three years, “US taxpayers have contributed more to the Israeli defense budget than Israeli taxpayers,” according to a report in the Jerusalem Post, a prominent Israeli newspaper.

Some of the other top recipients of US tax money, Egypt and Jordan, were provided this assistance in return for diplomatic recognition of the Israeli state.

According to the Congressional Research Service, Israel is given this money in a lump sum at the beginning of the fiscal year. Americans then pay interest on money they have given to Israel, while Israel makes interest on it.


US taxpayers paid more to Israeli defense budget than Israelis | Veterans News Now

I agree, awful! We should give money to send the Arabs living there to Syria.
Lots of room, no pesky Jews to blame for their failures.

So you can live on their land, is that why the Israelites created chaos in Syria.

The Syrians created the chaos in Syria.

Another failed "Arab Spring" initiative.

Frigging moronic A-Rabs...

Arab and Muslim supporters always blame everything wrong with that world on Israel.

And the UN, too (Didn't you hear that the state treats us women worse than in Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan?)

 

[Penelope]

Maybe Israel should have colonized a different country.

The Jewish people were not colonizing a place because they thought they would be welcome there or because there was lots of empty space. The Jewish people were not colonizing at all. The Jewish people were returning to a homeland from which they were forcibly removed -- a homeland of great physical and emotional connection. A homeland from which we grew and became established and created a history.

Why is the Jewish attachment to our homeland so much LESS of significance than the Palestinian attachment to their home?

If your response is the solution to the conflict -- why don't we just remove all the Palestinians to their own territory -- suggestions have so far included the US generally, Wisconsin specifically, Uganda, Madagascar and I believe Western Australia. Which would the Palestinians like to have?

Let the Saudis or Syrians or Jordanians or Somalians deal with them.

No point in inflicting 4-5 million Arab losers on any part of modern Christendom.

Rather than penalizing NPOs for funding Israeli settlements...

Why don't we encourage NPOs to fund a resettlement of the dumb-ass Palestinians, in some other part of the Muslim world?

Let the Arabs deal with their own mad dogs.

Palestinians were there first, haven't you heard, the Irgum and Lehi groups were known as terrorist by the US, Britain, UN, and even get this the Zionist Organization.

 

[Boston1]

Maybe Israel should have colonized a different country.

The Jewish people were not colonizing a place because they thought they would be welcome there or because there was lots of empty space. The Jewish people were not colonizing at all. The Jewish people were returning to a homeland from which they were forcibly removed -- a homeland of great physical and emotional connection. A homeland from which we grew and became established and created a history.

Why is the Jewish attachment to our homeland so much LESS of significance than the Palestinian attachment to their home?

If your response is the solution to the conflict -- why don't we just remove all the Palestinians to their own territory -- suggestions have so far included the US generally, Wisconsin specifically, Uganda, Madagascar and I believe Western Australia. Which would the Palestinians like to have?

Let the Saudis or Syrians or Jordanians or Somalians deal with them.

No point in inflicting 4-5 million Arab losers on any part of modern Christendom.

Rather than penalizing NPOs for funding Israeli settlements...

Why don't we encourage NPOs to fund a resettlement of the dumb-ass Palestinians, in some other part of the Muslim world?

Let the Arabs deal with their own mad dogs.

Palestinians were there first, haven't you heard, the Irgum and Lehi groups were known as terrorist by the US, Britain, UN, and even get this the Zionist Organization.

Hey I've got some really nice land in Florida too sell you LMAO

Arab Muslims were there first, stop, please, I'm about to bust a gut over here.

How can a people who developed in the 6th century AD and didn't colonize the Canaan area until about the 9th century AD get their before the native people who've been there since the mid to early bronze age, some 5000~7000 years ago.

 

[RoccoR]

Penelope, et al,

Oh Please...

Maybe Israel should have colonized a different country.

The Jewish people were not colonizing a place because they thought they would be welcome there or because there was lots of empty space. The Jewish people were not colonizing at all. The Jewish people were returning to a homeland from which they were forcibly removed -- a homeland of great physical and emotional connection. A homeland from which we grew and became established and created a history.

Why is the Jewish attachment to our homeland so much LESS of significance than the Palestinian attachment to their home?

If your response is the solution to the conflict -- why don't we just remove all the Palestinians to their own territory -- suggestions have so far included the US generally, Wisconsin specifically, Uganda, Madagascar and I believe Western Australia. Which would the Palestinians like to have?

Let the Saudis or Syrians or Jordanians or Somalians deal with them.

No point in inflicting 4-5 million Arab losers on any part of modern Christendom.

Rather than penalizing NPOs for funding Israeli settlements...

Why don't we encourage NPOs to fund a resettlement of the dumb-ass Palestinians, in some other part of the Muslim world?

Let the Arabs deal with their own mad dogs.

Palestinians were there first, haven't you heard, the Irgun and Lehi groups were known as terrorist by the US, Britain, UN, and even get this the Zionist Organization.

(OBSERVATION and REFERENCE)

• The Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigade is named after the militant anti-Zionist opponent (of the same same) of in 1920s and 1930s. Sheikh Izz ad-Din al Qassam was a Islamic Revivalist Missionary --- turned --- Radicalized Islamic Fundamentalist. Sheikh al-Qassam, was a known criminal associate of Hajj Amin al-Husseini, a former Ottoman Army Officer --- turned ---cleric and later appointed as the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. After the 1929 Riots in Jerusalem, Sheikh al-Qassam founded the Palestinian Black Hand; a Jihadist Group responsible for the terrorist campaign between the 1929 Riots and the 1939 Arab Revolt.

• The Lehi Group (AKA Stern Gang) was a splinter group that formed out of the Irgun in 1940 (stood down and was demilitarized in December 1948). The Irgun (AKA: Etzel) was a Revisionist splinter group formed in 1931 out of the Haganah. The Irgun was reintegrated and assimilated into the Haganah in May 1948, which transitioned into the Israeli Defense Force (IDF) on Independence Day. In October 1945 the Jewish Agency attempted to re-organized the Haganah, Irgun and Lehi into a consolidated paramilitary command known as the Jewish Resistance Movement (JRM). The JRM was short lived as a central force with a unified command.

(COMMENT)

I am, and most people are, aware that the Irgun and the Lehi were considered extremist groups that carried out acts of sabotage and terrorism against the British Civil Authorities and Military Activities. As we also know, both sides (Jewish and Arab), until 1948, were known to engage in such nefarious activities. Yet, Israel eventually evolved out of that character, as did the Egyptians, Jordanians, and Lebanese. But the Arab-Palestinians did not. And it is not expected that they will anytime soon. The legacy of Izz ad-Din al- Qassam lives on in the Military Wing of HAMAS, and honored in the locally made rocket it fires. The legacy lives on every time the Palestinians kidnap and murder the unarmed,
attack place civilians objects of no military value, hijack ships and planes, ambush buses of the aged tourists and school children .... Arab-Palestinians are known for their seven decades of all horrendous and abhorrent act of a dishonorable nature. These Arab attacks target the young and the infirm, as well as the old and disabled; those that can't defend themselves. They are much too ashamed to engage the IDF mano-a-mano.

"The first Arab riots of the Mandate period took place in Jerusalem in the intermediary days of Passover, in March 1920 (“Bloody Passover”). They were instigated by Arabs acting on unfounded rumors of Jewish actions against Arabs. The British military authorities did not intervene in the Arab attacks, while Vladimir Jabotinsky and other Jews were arrested for organizing a self-defense league. In April 1920, Joseph Trumpeldorand others were killed in the defense of Tel Hai, a settlement in the Upper Galilee. These developments led to the founding of the Haganah on June 15, 1920."
SOURCE: Palestine Facts
​

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

Penelope, et al,

Oh Please...

Maybe Israel should have colonized a different country.

The Jewish people were not colonizing a place because they thought they would be welcome there or because there was lots of empty space. The Jewish people were not colonizing at all. The Jewish people were returning to a homeland from which they were forcibly removed -- a homeland of great physical and emotional connection. A homeland from which we grew and became established and created a history.

Why is the Jewish attachment to our homeland so much LESS of significance than the Palestinian attachment to their home?

If your response is the solution to the conflict -- why don't we just remove all the Palestinians to their own territory -- suggestions have so far included the US generally, Wisconsin specifically, Uganda, Madagascar and I believe Western Australia. Which would the Palestinians like to have?

Let the Saudis or Syrians or Jordanians or Somalians deal with them.

No point in inflicting 4-5 million Arab losers on any part of modern Christendom.

Rather than penalizing NPOs for funding Israeli settlements...

Why don't we encourage NPOs to fund a resettlement of the dumb-ass Palestinians, in some other part of the Muslim world?

Let the Arabs deal with their own mad dogs.

Palestinians were there first, haven't you heard, the Irgun and Lehi groups were known as terrorist by the US, Britain, UN, and even get this the Zionist Organization.

(OBSERVATION and REFERENCE)

• The Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigade is named after the militant anti-Zionist opponent (of the same same) of in 1920s and 1930s. Sheikh Izz ad-Din al Qassam was a Islamic Revivalist Missionary --- turned --- Radicalized Islamic Fundamentalist. Sheikh al-Qassam, was a known criminal associate of Hajj Amin al-Husseini, a former Ottoman Army Officer --- turned ---cleric and later appointed as the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. After the 1929 Riots in Jerusalem, Sheikh al-Qassam founded the Palestinian Black Hand; a Jihadist Group responsible for the terrorist campaign between the 1929 Riots and the 1939 Arab Revolt.

• The Lehi Group (AKA Stern Gang) was a splinter group that formed out of the Irgun in 1940 (stood down and was demilitarized in December 1948). The Irgun (AKA: Etzel) was a Revisionist splinter group formed in 1931 out of the Haganah. The Irgun was reintegrated and assimilated into the Haganah in May 1948, which transitioned into the Israeli Defense Force (IDF) on Independence Day. In October 1945 the Jewish Agency attempted to re-organized the Haganah, Irgun and Lehi into a consolidated paramilitary command known as the Jewish Resistance Movement (JRM). The JRM was short lived as a central force with a unified command.

(COMMENT)

I am, and most people are, aware that the Irgun and the Lehi were considered extremist groups that carried out acts of sabotage and terrorism against the British Civil Authorities and Military Activities. As we also know, both sides (Jewish and Arab), until 1948, were known to engage in such nefarious activities. Yet, Israel eventually evolved out of that character, as did the Egyptians, Jordanians, and Lebanese. But the Arab-Palestinians did not. And it is not expected that they will anytime soon. The legacy of Izz ad-Din al- Qassam lives on in the Military Wing of HAMAS, and honored in the locally made rocket it fires. The legacy lives on every time the Palestinians kidnap and murder the unarmed,
attack place civilians objects of no military value, hijack ships and planes, ambush buses of the aged tourists and school children .... Arab-Palestinians are known for their seven decades of all horrendous and abhorrent act of a dishonorable nature. These Arab attacks target the young and the infirm, as well as the old and disabled; those that can't defend themselves. They are much too ashamed to engage the IDF mano-a-mano.

"The first Arab riots of the Mandate period took place in Jerusalem in the intermediary days of Passover, in March 1920 (“Bloody Passover”). They were instigated by Arabs acting on unfounded rumors of Jewish actions against Arabs. The British military authorities did not intervene in the Arab attacks, while Vladimir Jabotinsky and other Jews were arrested for organizing a self-defense league. In April 1920, Joseph Trumpeldorand others were killed in the defense of Tel Hai, a settlement in the Upper Galilee. These developments led to the founding of the Haganah on June 15, 1920."
SOURCE: Palestine Facts
​

Most Respectfully,
R

• The Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigade is named after the militant anti-Zionist opponent (of the same same) of in 1920s and 1930s. Sheikh Izz ad-Din al Qassam was a Islamic Revivalist Missionary --- turned --- Radicalized Islamic Fundamentalist.

• The Lehi Group (AKA Stern Gang) was a splinter group that formed out of the Irgun in 1940 (stood down and was demilitarized in December 1948). The Irgun (AKA: Etzel) was a Revisionist splinter group formed in 1931 out of the Haganah.​

Indeed, Britain sure made a mess of things. None of that would have happened without them.