Israeli and U.S. Groups sued for $34.5 Billion For Funding Settlements

[montelatici]

Irgun and Haganah were created to protect Jews after several Arab Muslim massacres, including that of the ancient Jews of Hebron in 1929.

In other words, the Jews took arms to protect themselves from the Islamic Nazis.

The Zionist terrorists were formed to facilitate the invasion of Palestine by the Europeans.

OH lordy Monty's up to his old lies again.

There was no invasion there was a return of native peoples. And there were almost no Arab Muslims there anyway as they flooded in AFTER the Zionists started returning because of the economic opportunities the Judaic people offered as they developed their homeland into its former glory.

So all this nonsense about Europeans ( only about 35% of the returnees are from Europe ) is just more racist hype.

No, 95% of the Zionist colonial invaders were from Europe.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Irgun and Haganah were created to protect Jews after several Arab Muslim massacres, including that of the ancient Jews of Hebron in 1929.

In other words, the Jews took arms to protect themselves from the Islamic Nazis.

The Zionist terrorists were formed to facilitate the invasion of Palestine by the Europeans.

OH lordy Monty's up to his old lies again.

There was no invasion there was a return of native peoples. And there were almost no Arab Muslims there anyway as they flooded in AFTER the Zionists started returning because of the economic opportunities the Judaic people offered as they developed their homeland into its former glory.

So all this nonsense about Europeans ( only about 35% of the returnees are from Europe ) is just more racist hype.

No, 95% of the Zionist colonial invaders were from Europe.

European invaders versus Muslim invaders.

 

[Boston1]

Irgun and Haganah were created to protect Jews after several Arab Muslim massacres, including that of the ancient Jews of Hebron in 1929.

In other words, the Jews took arms to protect themselves from the Islamic Nazis.

The Zionist terrorists were formed to facilitate the invasion of Palestine by the Europeans.

OH lordy Monty's up to his old lies again.

There was no invasion there was a return of native peoples. And there were almost no Arab Muslims there anyway as they flooded in AFTER the Zionists started returning because of the economic opportunities the Judaic people offered as they developed their homeland into its former glory.

So all this nonsense about Europeans ( only about 35% of the returnees are from Europe ) is just more racist hype.

No, 95% of the Zionist colonial invaders were from Europe.

I always appreciate the blatant lies

95% eh.

Lets see

From

Statistical Abstract of Israel, 2009, CBS. "Table 2.24 – Jews, by country of origin and age" (PDF). Retrieved 22 March 2010.

Quote

Jewish Population of Israel by paternal country of origin[24]

TOTAL 5,523,700 100%

From Europe, America and Oceania by own or paternal country of origin: 1,939,400 35.11%

End Quote

So I guess its actually less than 35% eh there Monty old bean.

 

[montelatici]

Oh, 2010 statistics which have nothing to do with the Zionist colonial invasion. 95% of the Zionist colonists to Palestine from 1920 to 1947 were from Europe.

 

[Roudy]

Irgun and Haganah were created to protect Jews after several Arab Muslim massacres, including that of the ancient Jews of Hebron in 1929.

In other words, the Jews took arms to protect themselves from the Islamic Nazis.

The Zionist terrorists were formed to facilitate the invasion of Palestine by the Europeans.

OH lordy Monty's up to his old lies again.

There was no invasion there was a return of native peoples. And there were almost no Arab Muslims there anyway as they flooded in AFTER the Zionists started returning because of the economic opportunities the Judaic people offered as they developed their homeland into its former glory.

So all this nonsense about Europeans ( only about 35% of the returnees are from Europe ) is just more racist hype.

No, 95% of the Zionist colonial invaders were from Europe.

Divert alert! The topic being:
"Israeli and U.S. Groups sued for $34.5 Billion For Funding Settlements"

Yet another failed attempt by the IslamoNazi appeasers at delegitimizing the state of Israel.

There has not been a Palestine or Palestinian people for the last 700 years that Ottoman's controlled the land. In other words, the Ottoman's who were Muslims themselves, never recognized such a people, but confirmed the Koran by recognizing it as Jewish holy land. That's why, starting in the 1400's during the crusades, the Ottoman's invited the Jews to settle in their own holy land for the next 500 years culminating to a Jewish majority in Jerusalem aka Zion in the 1850's, according to the Catholic and Ottoman census. In other words, despite all the pogroms, invasions, and ethnic cleansings, the Jews kept coming back to Zion.

 

[montelatici]

The Jews were not a majority in Jerusalem in 1896 even after decades of Jewish invasion.

 

[Roudy]

Irgun and Haganah were created to protect Jews after several Arab Muslim massacres, including that of the ancient Jews of Hebron in 1929.

In other words, the Jews took arms to protect themselves from the Islamic Nazis.

The Zionist terrorists were formed to facilitate the invasion of Palestine by the Europeans.

OH lordy Monty's up to his old lies again.

There was no invasion there was a return of native peoples. And there were almost no Arab Muslims there anyway as they flooded in AFTER the Zionists started returning because of the economic opportunities the Judaic people offered as they developed their homeland into its former glory.

So all this nonsense about Europeans ( only about 35% of the returnees are from Europe ) is just more racist hype.

No, 95% of the Zionist colonial invaders were from Europe.

European invaders versus Muslim invaders.

Guess who's side he's on?

 

[Roudy]

The Jews were not a majority in Jerusalem in 1896 even after decades of Jewish invasion.

Ha ha ha. How many times has this bullshit video been posted? It's the same standard bullshit over and over. Five to six irrelevant documents and a few bullshit videos, mixed with a whole bunch of lies and hate.

No thanks, I'll take the Ottoman and Catholic census , and actual history over a period of 600 years, showing gradual increases in the Jewish population. Until the Arab hoards starting invading land that the Ottoman's conquered from them.

 

[Roudy]

Straight from the horse's mouth:

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

I would expect no other evaluation from a pro-Palestinian. But there are other ways of looking at and evaluating the Mandate.

But the Mandate flopped under its own stupidity, so what does it matter?

Mission failed.

(COMMENT)

Arab Nation - Certain Communities formerly belonging to the Turkish Empire (Able to Stand Alone):

• The implementation of the Mandate for Palestine which allowed exclusion of Transjordan from the provisions regarding Jewish settlement.
• The independence of Transjordan.

∆ Article 22(4), Covenant: Certain communities formerly belonging to the Turkish Empire have reached a stage of development where their existence as independent nations can be provisionally recognized subject to the rendering of administrative advice and assistance by a Mandatory until such time as they are able to stand alone.

•∆• Article 1(1), Treaty of Alliance with Transjordan 1946 : His Majesty The King recognises Trans-Jordan as a fully independent State and His Highness The Amir as the sovereign thereof.
​

Establishment of the Jewish National Home:

• Independence of Israel:

∆ The Government of His Britannic Majesty, and adopted by the said Powers, in favor of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people.

•∆• At midnight on May 14, 1948, the Provisional Government of Israel proclaimed a new State of Israel.
•∆• UN General Assembly Resolution 273(III) admits Israel in the UN and recalls the November 29, 1947 and December 11, 1948 resolutions.
​

In the real world of politics and diplomacy, there are failed initiatives because one side (or another) is uncompromising; or that the expectations are too high given the nature of the dispute. In the case of the Arab Palestinian --- versus --- Israel, there are conditions that are non-negotiable.

At some point in time, the population of one side or the other will come to the conclusion that peace becomes an imperative. Israel will not make a compromise that lends itself to a result that the security of the Jewish State is compromised. This is partially based on the history that there is no reasonable criteria that the Israelis should otherwise trust the Arab-Palestinian.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Irgun and Haganah were created to protect Jews after several Arab Muslim massacres, including that of the ancient Jews of Hebron in 1929.

In other words, the Jews took arms to protect themselves from the Islamic Nazis.

The Zionist terrorists were formed to facilitate the invasion of Palestine by the Europeans.

OH lordy Monty's up to his old lies again.

There was no invasion there was a return of native peoples. And there were almost no Arab Muslims there anyway as they flooded in AFTER the Zionists started returning because of the economic opportunities the Judaic people offered as they developed their homeland into its former glory.

So all this nonsense about Europeans ( only about 35% of the returnees are from Europe ) is just more racist hype.

No, 95% of the Zionist colonial invaders were from Europe.

European invaders versus Muslim invaders.

Guess who's side he's on?

He loves him some Muzzie terrorists.

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

I would expect no other evaluation from a pro-Palestinian. But there are other ways of looking at and evaluating the Mandate.

But the Mandate flopped under its own stupidity, so what does it matter?

Mission failed.

(COMMENT)

Arab Nation - Certain Communities formerly belonging to the Turkish Empire (Able to Stand Alone):

• The implementation of the Mandate for Palestine which allowed exclusion of Transjordan from the provisions regarding Jewish settlement.
• The independence of Transjordan.

∆ Article 22(4), Covenant: Certain communities formerly belonging to the Turkish Empire have reached a stage of development where their existence as independent nations can be provisionally recognized subject to the rendering of administrative advice and assistance by a Mandatory until such time as they are able to stand alone.

•∆• Article 1(1), Treaty of Alliance with Transjordan 1946 : His Majesty The King recognises Trans-Jordan as a fully independent State and His Highness The Amir as the sovereign thereof.
​

Establishment of the Jewish National Home:

• Independence of Israel:

∆ The Government of His Britannic Majesty, and adopted by the said Powers, in favor of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people.

•∆• At midnight on May 14, 1948, the Provisional Government of Israel proclaimed a new State of Israel.
•∆• UN General Assembly Resolution 273(III) admits Israel in the UN and recalls the November 29, 1947 and December 11, 1948 resolutions.
​

In the real world of politics and diplomacy, there are failed initiatives because one side (or another) is uncompromising; or that the expectations are too high given the nature of the dispute. In the case of the Arab Palestinian --- versus --- Israel, there are conditions that are non-negotiable.

At some point in time, the population of one side or the other will come to the conclusion that peace becomes an imperative. Israel will not make a compromise that lends itself to a result that the security of the Jewish State is compromised. This is partially based on the history that there is no reasonable criteria that the Israelis should otherwise trust the Arab-Palestinian.

Most Respectfully,
R

What does all of that crap have to do with the fact that the Mandate flopped?

And resolution 181 flopped.

And the Zionist invasion of Palestine is a war in process. Well it is hard to call it a war. It has always been the military attack on Palestinian civilians.

 

[Boston1]

Oh, 2010 statistics which have nothing to do with the Zionist colonial invasion. 95% of the Zionist colonists to Palestine from 1920 to 1947 were from Europe.

You'd have been great in statistics, a laugh a minute.

So if a busload of returnees came in from Yemen just the other day, can we say that 100% of returnees were from Yemen ?

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Neither the Mandate nor the Resolution "flopped" (as in "completely unsuccessful; fail totally").

​

What does all of that crap have to do with the fact that the Mandate flopped?

And resolution 181 flopped.

And the Zionist invasion of Palestine is a war in process. Well it is hard to call it a war. It has always been the military attack on Palestinian civilians.

(COMMENT)

You are one of those people (a large number of which describe Arab Palestinians) that, if you don't get what you think you are owed; a very common Palestinian Centric approach to the dispute, then the political initiate is a "flop" (as you put it). But that is consistent with the immature view that the Arab Palestinian have some special "right" that hands-over something on a "silver platter;" and in not getting it, they are a victim.

• As Posting #130 points out, the Mandate was not a "flop" (a total failure) because:

∆ The Arab State of Transjordan was carved-out and created; and having been granted sovereignty by HM's Government over ≈ 77% of the territory subject to the Mandate.
​

• As Posting #130 points out, of the remaining ≈ 23% Mandate, the UN General Assembly recommended a split: ≈ 56% to the Jewish State and ≈ 43% allocated to another Arab State (excluding Jerusalem).

∆ Jewish Agency accepted the recommendation on behalf or the Jewish People.
∆ The Arab Higher Committee (formed by the Arab League) rejected the recommendation. The Arab Palestinian insisted that they were entitled to ALL the remaining territory and the Jewish were not entitled to any.
​

While it is true that the Arab Palestinian did not get their demands met, the recommendation was made. Of the territory under which the Mandate applied, ≈ 88% was successfully transitioned into independent and sovereign states (both Arab and Jewish). The people covered by this 88% of the territory (Transjordan and Israel).

Very few international disputes are solved by a diplomatic effort with a 100% effective solution. That is just real life.

The Arab Palestinian evaluate the Mandate and the subsequent Resolution 181(II) as a failure greedily demanded entire remainder, as if they had (in an erroneous belief that) received some title and right to the territory from the previous sovereign.

The Arab Palestinians are, at the macro level, blackmailers. For over six decades, they have held regional peace hostage for territorial gain and ransom payments. It is not the Arab Palestinians that are the victims of some perceived injustice, but the rest of the Regional States that have had to suffer parasitic monetary exsanguination over the decades, without any movement towards a peaceful solution.

IF there is a FLOP, it is the demonstrated inability of the Arab Palestinian people to make any meaningful progress in human development, or submit any substantive contribution regionally or globally; other than to advance the art of terrorism. They have yet to demonstrate that they can "stand alone" pursuant to the Article 22(4) criteria.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Phoenall]

et al,

There are certain assumptions here that are false.

And you are still trying to justify islamonazi terrorism and violence

Looks like "Palestinians" would benefit from ending their rocket firings, but they're so fucking stupid they won't.

Israel thinks that killing a lot of civilians and destroying a lot of civilian infrastructure is winning.
Actually they are shooting themselves in the foot,.

Israel thinks that killing a lot of civilians and destroying a lot of civilian infrastructure is winning.

Your terrorist buddies think killing a lot of civilians, whether Jews or Arabs, is winning.

(COMMENT)

On the Palestinian Side:

• Khartoum Resolution (1967)

∆ No peace with Israel,
∆ No recognition of Israel,
∆ No negotiations with Israel.
​

• PLO Charter (1988)

∆ Armed struggle is the only way to liberate Palestine. This is the overall strategy, not merely a tactical phase.
∆ Commando (Feday'ee) action constitutes the nucleus of the Palestinian popular liberation war.
∆ The partition of Palestine in 1947, and the establishment of the state of Israel are entirely illegal, regardless of the passage of time, because they were contrary to the will of the Palestinian people and its natural right in their homeland, and were inconsistent with the principles embodied in the Charter of the United Nations, particularly the right to self-determination.
∆ The Arab Palestinian people, expressing themselves by armed Palestinian revolution, reject all solutions which are substitutes for the total liberation of Palestine and reject all proposals aimed at the liquidation of the Palestinian cause, or at its internationalization.
​

• Islamic Resistance Movement (1988)

∆ Jihad is its path and death for the sake of Allah is the loftiest of its wishes.
∆ There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad.
∆ The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day.
∆ Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement. Abusing any part of Palestine is abuse directed against part of religion.
∆ Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.
​

• Vision and Strategy of HAMAS; reflecting the practical application of its strategies.

∆ Palestine, from its [Jordan] river to its [Mediterranean] sea, from its north to its south, is the land of the Palestinian people; it is their homeland and their legitimate right.
∆ Palestine, in its entirety, is an Arab and Islamic land.
∆ The liberation of Palestine is a national, domestic and legitimate duty. It is the responsibility of the Palestinians, the Arabs and the Islamic ummah.
∆ Jihad and armed resistance is the correct and authentic means for the liberation of Palestine and the restoration of all rights.
​

From the Arab Palestinian perspective --- there is no incentive to settle the conflict by peaceful means. They will continue the conflict until such time as they are able to apply sufficient political pressure that will overturn recommendations adopted in General Assembly Resolution [181(II)].

Combining all these statement, wherein the Hostile Arab Palestinians identifies themselves as Jihadist that:

• Threaten to use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Israel.
• Violate the existing international boundaries of Israel as a means of solving international disputes,
• Decline to pursue in good faith negotiations for the early conclusion of a universal treaty.
• Disseminates information designed to provoke or encourage conflict; and threaten the peace, or induce act of aggression;
• Palestinian terrorists who dress as civilians
• Palestinians targeting civilians
• Palestinians performing Acts of violence the primary purpose of which is to spread terror among the civilian population are prohibited.
• Locating valid military objectives inside Densely Populated Areas
• Failure to evacuate Civilians and remove Civilian Objects from the Vicinity of Military Operations.
• Conducting bombings, kidnapping and murder, hijackings, piracy, and other asymmetric operations directed against noncombatants.
​

This outlines, in thumbnail form, the general character and nature of the Hostile Arab Palestinian.

Most Respectfully,
R

Maybe Israel should have colonized a different country.

Maybe the Palestinians should learn that if they carry on as they are then Israel will announce the same measures and put them in place. The world will not be able to say anything at all as they are just following the lead set by the Palestinians and are out to wipe them all out and rule the world.

 

[Phoenall]

No, the British contravened the Covenant of the League of Nations, Article 20, 22 and 23. Transferring colonizing Europeans to Palestine contravened all these articles.

ARTICLE 20.
The Members of the League severally agree that this Covenant is accepted as abrogating all obligations or understandings inter se which are inconsistent with the terms thereof, and solemnly undertake that they will not hereafter enter into any engagements inconsistent with the terms thereof.

In case any Member of the League shall, before becoming a Member of the League, have undertaken any obligations inconsistent with the terms of this Covenant, it shall be the duty of such Member to take immediate steps to procure its release from such obligations.

ARTICLE 22.
To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilisation and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant.

ARTICLE 23.
Subject to and in accordance with the provisions of international conventions existing or hereafter to be agreed upon, the Members of the League:


(b) undertake to secure just treatment of the native inhabitants of territories under their control;

Avalon Project - The Covenant of the League of Nations

No mention in there of it being against the covenant to facilitate the LoN treaties calling on the migration of jews into Jewish Palestine with the view of creating a Jewish national home.

You LOSE again freddy by lying



BY THE WAY ARE YOU ALSO DENYING THE JEWS OF PALESTINE THEIR RIGHTS TO FREE DETERMINATION WITHOUT OUTSIDE INFLUENCE AND THE RIGHT TO A HOMELAND THAT WAS GRANTED UNDER INTERNATIONAL LAW


can someone please post this for freddy here to answer if he dare.

 

[Phoenall]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Maybe the establishment of settlements within the territory the Ottoman Empire/Turkish Republic renounces all rights and title, to the Allied Powers, had nothing to do with your assertion here.

Maybe Israel should have colonized a different country.

(COMMENT)

You keep forgetting that the territory to which the Mandate applied was not under Arab Palestinian sovereignty; --- not in 1920 when the San Remo Convention hammered-out the implementation process of a Jewish National Home and created the framework of the Mandate, ---and --- not in the 800 years prior to the 1918 Mudros Armistice which was concluded the hostilities in the Middle Eastern theatre of war between the Ottoman Empire and the Allied Powers.

The immigration and settlement of the Jewish people in the territory to which the Mandate Applied, was encouraged by the Allied Powers --- for all Jews who are willing to assist in the establishment of the Jewish national home.

Whatever you want to call it, and however negatively you want to portray it, the fact of the matter is that
all rights and title over the territories where accepted by the Allied Powers. ... And the future of these territories were to be settled by the parties (not including the Arab Palestinians) concerned that issue.

Maybe the Arab Palestinians should have chosen more wisely.

Most Respectfully,
R

That doesn't change my post one bit.

Maybe the Arab Palestinians should have chosen more wisely.​

They did. They chose the US to be the Mandatory, like specified in the LoN Covenant, but instead they got fucking Britain.

We could have avoided a hundred year, and counting, war.

They had no input to the LoN remember, they refused to be part of it. So they could not choose who they wanted to run the show, and the US was not part of the LoN so was a no show to begin with.

Maybe if the arab muslims had learnt from the thrashings they got around that time and went along with the new owners of the land they would not be fighting amongst themselves so much, and could very well be the New China by now

 

[Phoenall]

et al,

There are certain assumptions here that are false.

Looks like "Palestinians" would benefit from ending their rocket firings, but they're so fucking stupid they won't.

Israel thinks that killing a lot of civilians and destroying a lot of civilian infrastructure is winning.
Actually they are shooting themselves in the foot,.

Israel thinks that killing a lot of civilians and destroying a lot of civilian infrastructure is winning.

Your terrorist buddies think killing a lot of civilians, whether Jews or Arabs, is winning.

(COMMENT)

On the Palestinian Side:

• Khartoum Resolution (1967)

∆ No peace with Israel,
∆ No recognition of Israel,
∆ No negotiations with Israel.
​

• PLO Charter (1988)

∆ Armed struggle is the only way to liberate Palestine. This is the overall strategy, not merely a tactical phase.
∆ Commando (Feday'ee) action constitutes the nucleus of the Palestinian popular liberation war.
∆ The partition of Palestine in 1947, and the establishment of the state of Israel are entirely illegal, regardless of the passage of time, because they were contrary to the will of the Palestinian people and its natural right in their homeland, and were inconsistent with the principles embodied in the Charter of the United Nations, particularly the right to self-determination.
∆ The Arab Palestinian people, expressing themselves by armed Palestinian revolution, reject all solutions which are substitutes for the total liberation of Palestine and reject all proposals aimed at the liquidation of the Palestinian cause, or at its internationalization.
​

• Islamic Resistance Movement (1988)

∆ Jihad is its path and death for the sake of Allah is the loftiest of its wishes.
∆ There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad.
∆ The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day.
∆ Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement. Abusing any part of Palestine is abuse directed against part of religion.
∆ Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.
​

• Vision and Strategy of HAMAS; reflecting the practical application of its strategies.

∆ Palestine, from its [Jordan] river to its [Mediterranean] sea, from its north to its south, is the land of the Palestinian people; it is their homeland and their legitimate right.
∆ Palestine, in its entirety, is an Arab and Islamic land.
∆ The liberation of Palestine is a national, domestic and legitimate duty. It is the responsibility of the Palestinians, the Arabs and the Islamic ummah.
∆ Jihad and armed resistance is the correct and authentic means for the liberation of Palestine and the restoration of all rights.
​

From the Arab Palestinian perspective --- there is no incentive to settle the conflict by peaceful means. They will continue the conflict until such time as they are able to apply sufficient political pressure that will overturn recommendations adopted in General Assembly Resolution [181(II)].

Combining all these statement, wherein the Hostile Arab Palestinians identifies themselves as Jihadist that:

• Threaten to use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Israel.
• Violate the existing international boundaries of Israel as a means of solving international disputes,
• Decline to pursue in good faith negotiations for the early conclusion of a universal treaty.
• Disseminates information designed to provoke or encourage conflict; and threaten the peace, or induce act of aggression;
• Palestinian terrorists who dress as civilians
• Palestinians targeting civilians
• Palestinians performing Acts of violence the primary purpose of which is to spread terror among the civilian population are prohibited.
• Locating valid military objectives inside Densely Populated Areas
• Failure to evacuate Civilians and remove Civilian Objects from the Vicinity of Military Operations.
• Conducting bombings, kidnapping and murder, hijackings, piracy, and other asymmetric operations directed against noncombatants.
​

This outlines, in thumbnail form, the general character and nature of the Hostile Arab Palestinian.

Most Respectfully,
R

Maybe Israel should have colonized a different country.

Israel was given to the Jews by God so why in the fuck would they colonize elsewhere?

Ahhh, the great realtor in the sky.

Then to make it legal it was signed sealed and delivered under the mandate of Palestine that granted them the land for their National home.

 

[Phoenall]

Maybe Israel should have colonized a different country.

The Jewish people were not colonizing a place because they thought they would be welcome there or because there was lots of empty space. The Jewish people were not colonizing at all. The Jewish people were returning to a homeland from which they were forcibly removed -- a homeland of great physical and emotional connection. A homeland from which we grew and became established and created a history.

Why is the Jewish attachment to our homeland so much LESS of significance than the Palestinian attachment to their home?

If your response is the solution to the conflict -- why don't we just remove all the Palestinians to their own territory -- suggestions have so far included the US generally, Wisconsin specifically, Uganda, Madagascar and I believe Western Australia. Which would the Palestinians like to have?

Let the Saudis or Syrians or Jordanians or Somalians deal with them.

No point in inflicting 4-5 million Arab losers on any part of modern Christendom.

Rather than penalizing NPOs for funding Israeli settlements...

Why don't we encourage NPOs to fund a resettlement of the dumb-ass Palestinians, in some other part of the Muslim world?

Let the Arabs deal with their own mad dogs.

Palestinians were there first, haven't you heard, the Irgum and Lehi groups were known as terrorist by the US, Britain, UN, and even get this the Zionist Organization.

Palestinians as in Jews do you mean, the original holders of that name from 70 C.E. till 1960 when Arafat stole it to give his terrorist group a touch of repectability.

And which terrorist groups came before the Irgun and Lehi Jewish defence forces, who only attacked in response to attacks on Jews. Or are you blind to that fact not being allowed to look it up on the computer. The British sent thousands of Jews fleeing Europe to the death camps of Cyprus rather than let them disembark in Palestine so the Lehi and Irgun gangs attacked the British.

I wonder how many other members see it as strange that the likes of penny sees no problems in the Palestinians killing women and children to get their own way, but see the Jews doing the same thing 80 years ago as some sort of crime ?

 

[Phoenall]

Maybe Israel should have colonized a different country.

The Jewish people were not colonizing a place because they thought they would be welcome there or because there was lots of empty space. The Jewish people were not colonizing at all. The Jewish people were returning to a homeland from which they were forcibly removed -- a homeland of great physical and emotional connection. A homeland from which we grew and became established and created a history.

Why is the Jewish attachment to our homeland so much LESS of significance than the Palestinian attachment to their home?

If your response is the solution to the conflict -- why don't we just remove all the Palestinians to their own territory -- suggestions have so far included the US generally, Wisconsin specifically, Uganda, Madagascar and I believe Western Australia. Which would the Palestinians like to have?

Let the Saudis or Syrians or Jordanians or Somalians deal with them.

No point in inflicting 4-5 million Arab losers on any part of modern Christendom.

Rather than penalizing NPOs for funding Israeli settlements...

Why don't we encourage NPOs to fund a resettlement of the dumb-ass Palestinians, in some other part of the Muslim world?

Let the Arabs deal with their own mad dogs.

Palestinians were there first, haven't you heard, the Irgum and Lehi groups were known as terrorist by the US, Britain, UN, and even get this the Zionist Organization.

Hey I've got some really nice land in Florida too sell you LMAO

Arab Muslims were there first, stop, please, I'm about to bust a gut over here.

How can a people who developed in the 6th century AD and didn't colonize the Canaan area until about the 9th century AD get their before the native people who've been there since the mid to early bronze age, some 5000~7000 years ago.

Didn't you hear the arab's have invented a time machine that allows them to go back in time and put history right................