Is Sanders Retarded or Insane?

[bripat9643]

There's socialism, capitalism and various combinations of the two. Actually, there is no pure socialism because any attempt to implement it instantly implodes. So called "social democracy" is just a mixture of socialism and capitalism.

Any attempt to implement pure capitalism fails dramatically, if not worse then "socialism" which only existed in Spain, Ukraine, and the Paris commune. Actually, the zapatistas and other various communities run along the lines of socialism/communism.

Hmmmm, wrong. The closer a society moves to pure capitalism, the faster its economy grows and the better off its people become. The so-called "socialist communities" you refer to lasted how long?

Name one. They were crushed by military force, the zapatistas are active today but they're not expanding anymore, for now.

Yep, so they lasted about 5 weeks. That's hardly a valid test of an economic system.

"Active" doing what? Did they ever run an economy? Nope, they're just rebels wrecking havoc on the locals.

5 weeks? What the fuck are you talking about? The anarchists in Ukraine/Spain lasted years, the commune was crushed but it achieved a shit ton in just a short time. You know nothing of the zapatistas. They're on the defensive.

Did they ever run an economy? From what I read about the Zapatistas, they're just terrorists.

 

[bripat9643]

Who is forced to pay? What are you talking about? Universal healthcare? People don't care, they know it works and benefits them.

I lot of people do care. They are forced to pay for it. The majority hates Obamacare. Nevertheless, it was still forced on them.

Prove that the majority hate obamacare, which isn't UHC by the way. Regardless, the Canadian right wing had to promise to keep UHC because of how loved it is, Europeans love it as well. They live longer lives and don't have to stress over medical bills.

And most western European countries have far higher per capita $$$$ per person then we do...Must not be that bad!

Wrong. They have significantly lower per capita income. When you look at their living standards in terms of size of homes, appliances, transportation, etc, their standard of living is even lower.

Shit Americans Say
Talk to Europeans or Canadians.

I have. They are envious of Americans.

 

[Socialist]

Any attempt to implement pure capitalism fails dramatically, if not worse then "socialism" which only existed in Spain, Ukraine, and the Paris commune. Actually, the zapatistas and other various communities run along the lines of socialism/communism.

Hmmmm, wrong. The closer a society moves to pure capitalism, the faster its economy grows and the better off its people become. The so-called "socialist communities" you refer to lasted how long?

Name one. They were crushed by military force, the zapatistas are active today but they're not expanding anymore, for now.

Yep, so they lasted about 5 weeks. That's hardly a valid test of an economic system.

"Active" doing what? Did they ever run an economy? Nope, they're just rebels wrecking havoc on the locals.

5 weeks? What the fuck are you talking about? The anarchists in Ukraine/Spain lasted years, the commune was crushed but it achieved a shit ton in just a short time. You know nothing of the zapatistas. They're on the defensive.

Did they ever run an economy? From what I read about the Zapatistas, they're just terrorists.

HUGE amount of history. The Zapatista Uprising Profit Over People Noam Chomsky

 

[Socialist]

I lot of people do care. They are forced to pay for it. The majority hates Obamacare. Nevertheless, it was still forced on them.

Prove that the majority hate obamacare, which isn't UHC by the way. Regardless, the Canadian right wing had to promise to keep UHC because of how loved it is, Europeans love it as well. They live longer lives and don't have to stress over medical bills.

And most western European countries have far higher per capita $$$$ per person then we do...Must not be that bad!

Wrong. They have significantly lower per capita income. When you look at their living standards in terms of size of homes, appliances, transportation, etc, their standard of living is even lower.

Shit Americans Say
Talk to Europeans or Canadians.

I have. They are envious of Americans.

LOL. Sure, some are, the majority most definitely aren.

 

[Socialist]

I lot of people do care. They are forced to pay for it. The majority hates Obamacare. Nevertheless, it was still forced on them.

Prove that the majority hate obamacare, which isn't UHC by the way. Regardless, the Canadian right wing had to promise to keep UHC because of how loved it is, Europeans love it as well. They live longer lives and don't have to stress over medical bills.

And most western European countries have far higher per capita $$$$ per person then we do...Must not be that bad!

Wrong. They have significantly lower per capita income. When you look at their living standards in terms of size of homes, appliances, transportation, etc, their standard of living is even lower.

Shit Americans Say
Talk to Europeans or Canadians.

I have. They are envious of Americans.

Anyways, good night bripat. It's 6 AM here, I need sleep..

 

[Jantje_Smit]

I have. They are envious of Americans.

Indeed, it's our cherished dream to get a chance to select the same kind of clowns for pretzeldent as you guys do so we can finally privatize our healthcare, outlaw evil abortion, carry guns all the time and have our own mass murders every week, drill everywhere and anytime, etc.

But we'll get there eventually, as soon as our EU overlords sign TTIP and shove it down our throats we will take another big step in the right direction.

 

[Mac1958]

Those who ignore and mock Sanders and his supporters, those who somehow continue to confuse "socialism" with social democracy, are making a big mistake here.

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[Iceweasel]

Somalia is a capitalist paradise, no regulations, no taxes, a truly free market.

That's anarchy, not capitalism. You're an idiot, that's why you believe what you do.

 

[Iceweasel]

Of course it's not, the thing is, as a socialist, I have actual examples i can point to that fit what socialism is, capitalists always rely on throwing out "crony" capitalism when they realize capitalism leads to horrid conditions without regulation. Tell me, how is Somalia not capitalist?

Capitalism does not mean zero regulations. Liars and idiots say so to push more government on us.

 

[sarahgop]

Sanders is just as sane as rubio or bush, who want to be irans cannon fodder. I would vote for sanders before voting for rubio or bush.

 

[TooTall]

"Is Sanders Retarded or Insane?"

One of those idiotic loaded question fallacies from the right.

Well done.

What would your choices be to describe Sanders?

 

[TooTall]

Bernie actually thinks the average working person is worth something. Tell me one other candidate from either party that is and I call you a liar and you frankly are and you know it. American politics is all about big money and it is beyond tainted and therefore I have zero good to say about my country's system. Zippo. Its all about the rich who do zero for the nation.

I am not one of the rich, but they buy a lot of stuff that working people make and I never got a job from a poor man. I would say the rich do a lot more for the nation than the poor.

 

[sarahgop]

"Is Sanders Retarded or Insane?"

One of those idiotic loaded question fallacies from the right.

Well done.

What would your choices be to describe Sanders?

He reminds me alot of megan kelly.

 

[TooTall]

Bernie actually thinks the average working person is worth something. Tell me one other candidate from either party that is and I call you a liar and you frankly are and you know it. American politics is all about big money and it is beyond tainted and therefore I have zero good to say about my country's system. Zippo. Its all about the rich who do zero for the nation.

*snore* "If you don't agree with my worldview and desires, you HATE WORKING PEOPLE!"

When I want to hear you bark on command, Fido, I'll wave a Snausage over your nose.

That's not what he said. I have yet to see any candidates apart from bernie address actual issues affecting working people, not just abortion or immigrants. Immigrants hardly affect working people, if anything, it's a positive relationship.

Most people don't have a problem with immigrants. It it the illegal immigrants that have some people upset.

Many years ago there was an effort in the south to encourage young black pregnant girls and women to get an abortion. The liberals shut it down because they deemed it racist, and it was! Now, they encourage the same thing and donate millions of dollars to Planned Parenthood as well as $500 million a year of taxpayers money. I guess it isn't racist any more to liberals and Democrats and it still is to conservatives and Republicans.

 

[Stephanie]

Bernie is so fucking right!! They get this wealth by under paying their workers and taking it all. These hogs need to be taxed and regulated!!!

You are living in the wrong country. You need to find one who does what that stupid poster says and it's done TO YOU. adios

 

[bripat9643]

Hmmmm, wrong. The closer a society moves to pure capitalism, the faster its economy grows and the better off its people become. The so-called "socialist communities" you refer to lasted how long?

Name one. They were crushed by military force, the zapatistas are active today but they're not expanding anymore, for now.

Yep, so they lasted about 5 weeks. That's hardly a valid test of an economic system.

"Active" doing what? Did they ever run an economy? Nope, they're just rebels wrecking havoc on the locals.

5 weeks? What the fuck are you talking about? The anarchists in Ukraine/Spain lasted years, the commune was crushed but it achieved a shit ton in just a short time. You know nothing of the zapatistas. They're on the defensive.

Did they ever run an economy? From what I read about the Zapatistas, they're just terrorists.

HUGE amount of history. The Zapatista Uprising Profit Over People Noam Chomsky

Aside from the fact that your cite was authored by Noam Chomsky, the most delusional commie I've ever read, and a pathological liar, it doesn't mention anything about the Zapatistas running an economy. All it does is whine about how unfair the Mexican government and NAFTA is.

 

[bripat9643]

Somalia is a capitalist paradise, no regulations, no taxes, a truly free market.

That's anarchy, not capitalism. You're an idiot, that's why you believe what you do.

Actually it's more like Feudalism. Anarchy means no government, not a bunch of petty little barons each controlling his own small piece of turf.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Bernie "Liver Spots" Sanders seems to have just now realized that there are other people in the country besides liberals. If you want to discuss immigration, please go start your own thread for it and stop hijacking this one.

Well, my apologies......and, BTW, those "brown spots" are not caused by the liver..........Just my contribution to the lacking knowledge base among right wingers......But, DO carry on

Damn, you're almost as retarded/insane as Bernie Sanders.

Of course liver spots aren't caused by the liver, and FYI, the rest of us not only already knew that, we ALSO knew that they're still CALLED "liver spots", you dumbfuck.

Every leftist can make a fool of himself publicly, but not all of them can do it while trying to appear clever and condescending. Bravo!

 

[Cecilie1200]

I surely love my pension, SS, and medicare which I use whenever possible as I paid into them so I am entitled to them. That kind of thinking bothers you I know but since I sold my business and am collecting SS I dont have to belong anymore to the filthy ratrace this nation now espouses.

Your words sound like English, but your meaning bears no resemblance to anything being said, so they might as well not be.

FYI, if you really did own a business and are now collecting Social Security, that means you were an incredible failure as a businessman. Congratulations, dumbass.

Many do. Why wouldn't you after paying into it for 40 years or so?

Spoken like a true liberal with nothing better to do than bask in the glories of government red tape.

I take it you will be refusing your SS checks when you retire?

No, she just likes sounding like she's above it.

As opposed to someone who just tried to correct someone else's statement about their own personal life.

 

[Cecilie1200]

So what's the source of Bernie Boy's tunnel vision and oblivion? Is he a nut, or just not real swift on the uptake?

Campaign rhetoric.

Politicians are full it, among other things. Even Bernie, one of the more honest pols.

Are we supposed to be taking any of this seriously?

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Campaign rhetoric requires someone to sound like they just realized that the opposing political party has different views?

I'm fascinated by the idea that campaign rhetoric requires someone to sound oblivious and stupid. That explains a lot about Democrats, liberals, and socialists.