Is Mexico slowing descending in chaos/lawlessness

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    I don't know whether it has always been, or whether these drug cartels are just making more headlines than usual, but it seems to me that the Federal and state govts of Mexico are fucked.

    Don't get me wrong, I am not that naive to realise that the police and politicians in Mexico have not always been corrupt, but it seems to have become totally out of control over the past 4-5 years.

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    As a personal anecdote of sorts, my cousin played rugby in San Diego about 15-20 years ago and he popped over the border to Tijuana. He got pulled over by a Federale who tried the shakedown on him. Being from a country where corruption is negligible to say the least - and being a hot head to boot - he refused to cooperate. The federale started getting a bit pissed, but what the cop didn't realise that my cousin had four US marines in the car with him (well, he knew he had passengers, but didn't know what they did for a living). So a couple of them get out, tell them what they do, and the guy backed off big time. He ended up apologising, and they got talking to him, and it turned out he had to pay for his own uniform and gun and ammo. And his pay was negligible. Is this a case where strong central govt is important? That tax laws are enforced so govt workers can earn a decent salary and not have to rely on the blight of corruption to make ends meet? Because once corruption does take hold you end up with tinpot dictatorships that dot the globe like those in Africa, parts of Asia and South America?
     
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    And is that normal for Mexico over the past 40-50 years? Or an aberration...
     
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    One of these days, you'll astonish the fuck out of me with a comprehensive OP.

    First you admit, however awkwardly, that you know Mexico is and has been corrupt.

    Then you wonder if low pay for federal cops makes for a strong central government.

    Then you launch into a question of enforcing tax laws (the job of the federal cops).

    Then you question (or comment, or state?) that corruption begets tinpot dictatorships.

    Can anyone interpret your blithering?
     
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    The fact you can't join the dots does not surprise me. This thread is for intelligent people, so you might best move along. However, I am more than happy to explain my logic to you if you so desire. I didn't think I would have to spell it out literally - but there you go...

    If I ever decide to start an OP for your benefit, I'll be sure to insert the words "kiddie porn" somewhere. I know that is bound to get your attention and make you salivate....
     
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    Mexico has always been corrupt. The Presidents have stolen hundreds of billions over the decades, so its no surprise that those down the food chain are corrupt as well. And with the drug trade generating tens of billions of dollars in sales in the US each year, it is no surprise that drug corruption is rotting the state from within. Wide swaths of Mexico are outside the control of government.
     
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    I know, but I guess I'm wondering if it has worsened over the past 4-5 years, or are they just garnering more headlines. ie it has always been like this, but for some reason the media are playing up to it more....?
     
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    duh!
     
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    aberration.
     
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    Where white people aren't, chaos and corruption is.

    Racist, yes.

    Factual, yes.
     

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