Impact Of Illegal Immigration An “exaggeration”

[SW2SILVERQUASI]

So, Agnost, what source would you respect? Well, I venture to say, my anecdotal evidence is a lot more than you have. I take the word of human beings above and beyond any statistics you may quote. I live in a barrio. And it's not as diverse and as utopian as YOU might like. You lack a certain perspective. Try living in a barrio for ten years or so, then come back and give us your comfortable little liberal pedantic lecture. Please, it would lend a certain air of authenticity to your rants you have yet to have gained.

 

[Agnapostate]

Liberal? Idiot, I'm an anarchist. Do you live in Boyle Heights? Lincoln Heights? When you do, you can claim that you live in more of a "barrio" than me.

 

[SW2SILVERQUASI]

OK. Wow, that warms the cockles of my heart. Anarchist get all the chicks and all those green cubes of approval on this board? Do tell, there is a paradigm I am going to change, boyo.

 

[Agnapostate]

Doesn't look like you've got the rep to do it, son.

 

[SW2SILVERQUASI]

Agnost. You switch gears and motivations, makes me feel validated being so paranoid and hysterical. I still live in a Barrio, that isn't an exaggeration. It isn't a lie. You are an Anarchist... well, what does that have to do with immigration? Could you explain that?

 

[Agnapostate]

You claimed that I was a liberal, so I instructed you as to the falseness of that by informing you that I was an anarchist. You also said that you lived in the barrio and I did not, so I countered that you could claim to live in a worse barrio than me when you lived in Boyle Heights or Lincoln Heights. Or even Lennox.

 

[SW2SILVERQUASI]

Falseness? I don't know what Boyle Heights are. I live in the Swansea district of Denver. A thousand miles from nowhere. Yet, all We get all these illegal immigrants, the type my niece married, like my nephews and nieces, and that is were I an coming from . it's isn't a wet dream of the fox network or republicans, hell, they exploit illegals just as much as the rest of you do, Agnost. You are as much a anarchist as George Bush Jr. is, boyo.

 

[Agnapostate]

Yeah, gotta tell you, that doesn't sound like much of a "barrio."

Boyle Heights, on the other hand...Boyle Heights, Los Angeles, California - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[SW2SILVERQUASI]

Boyo, you live were? Please. In the Gated States of Angloland? I know how much you like to define yourself. Ambiguity, that's YOU , Agnost. Wow, yer such a Pioneer for human rights. Or, perhaps, yer a pioneer for Joseph Stalin, I don't think you know where you come from either, Ambiguity has it's privilege. Isn't that right? So, were do you live?

 

[SW2SILVERQUASI]

By the by, this quaint thread, was about Colorado's Governor Bill Ritter. He says illegals are...exaggerated. He lives about 6 miles or so from me, and I am sure this is some political crap because he and YOU can't be this god-damn dumb to notice what illegal aliens are doing, are you? NO? Or is there some other explanation for this shit? I would love to hear it.

 

[Agnapostate]

What are you blathering about this time? Something nonsensical, no doubt.

Why are immigrants' incarceration rates so low? evidence on selective immigration, deterrence, and deportation

 

[SW2SILVERQUASI]

Agnost: What are you blathering about? Is this a criticism? Nice try, boyo. I speak from experience, you ? I could quote a million different sources, I could be total liar, a total psychopath , ya never know, do ya? I don't have to prove anything, sweetheart. It's up to you, my socialist antithetical hero, prove your thesis , bubbaroony... You have one, don't you?

 

[SW2SILVERQUASI]

NO? I live with illegals, numbnuz, I don't need you or anyone else's opinion legitimizing them or excusing them, for that matter. Too bad you don't live with them, I bet that would change your opinion, but we cant' have everything, can we? Stil,l it would be sweet when pro- illegal folks really truly dealt with ALL the effects, and skipped all that yadda yadda racist xenophobic name calling crap. Life would be so sweet...Hubris, anyone?

 

[Agnapostate]

Try cutting the Prozac tablets in half next time.

 

[SW2SILVERQUASI]

Agnost, you have a way of saying NOTHING at all. Would you like to say, geographically, were YOU come from? No? I practically give ya'all a GPS pinpoint, and as always, you equivocate. Are you always such a wuss ? Equivocate, play games and gee whiz, it's no wonder ya support illegal aliens. That's exactly what they do, play games and dance around the facts. How nice. So, were do you live? I notice that you NEVER answer that question directly. A Barrio? A white gated community? What? What experience DO you have, anyway?

 

[RoadVirus]

Iowa has it's fair share of illegal workers, "Immigration agents arrested 389 employees during a raid in May". Just one plant.

Meatpacking plants are magnets for illegals. Just ask Swift and Tyson, who have had their plants repeatedly raided by ICE.

Just take CA for example! It is said that if CA stop providing free healthcare, education, welfare and section 8 to illegals then they would have a balance budget! Absolutely amazing! But CA fucked! First they have sanctuary cities, but there is no way around it for the politician. If the politician comes out against it or illegal aliens, the large latino population and bleeding heart dumb ass libs will vote there sorry butts out of office. I personally believe CA is destined to become part of Mexico, same with AZ and NM!

California can be written off as a lost cause as long as the bleeding heart liberals run amok there. The LA Mayor is the worst of them all.

I believe a case can be made that the problems incurred by illegal immigration can be remedied by amnesty and the granting of legal status to illegal immigrants.

Amnesty does nothing but reward bad behavior. Besides, after we give them amnesty, in 20 years another 12 million illegals will want an amnesty of their own. When does the shit stop?

 

[SW2SILVERQUASI]

Agnost: For a "contrairian" , you are pretty conformist. You want to debate statistics? You have the same facts I do, it's matter of how you read them. This a matter of philosophy. And a little experience on the issue doesn't hurt, either. This board gives us a forum to express our opinion. You know what they say about opinions and assholes? For me, this debate segues into an example of mass delusion. The American public is being fooled . Otherwise intelligent people are deluding themselves , regardless of the facts. It seems that if you folks don't like the facts, then you set about redefining them to fit your ideals. Illegal aliens are not really illegal, and they aren't aliens, either. No, they become"immigrants". Of course, in the loosest sense of the word, they ARE immigrants. And for some of you, that ends this debate. Well, except that oversimplification leaves out the main point of contention: the basic dishonesty and misrepresentation that this set of "immigrants" operate under is what sets illegal aliens apart from legitimate "Immigrants". For instance, I could follow that same logic to the word "visitor". If I was to walk into your home, without your knowledge , permission or mutual respect any human being wants, still I could say, I am a "visitor". Sounds innocuous enough. That's the point, isn't it? It's the way this set of immigrants choose to "immigrate" that is suspect. When these persons WON"T openly ask permission, use stealth and ambiguity to disguise their motives, that challenges the definition. You folks hide behind euphemisms. It's a con job and some of you folks are too eager to show how compassionate you are, you are loosing your skepticism and rationality for the sake of popular consensus. You people know the difference between a "visitor" and a "trespasser", use that same standard of logic when it comes to the difference between "immigrant" and "illegal alien". I know, that's asking a lot. In the popular vernacular: Stop drinking the koolaid.

 

[SW2SILVERQUASI]

Oh, yeah, I forgot. Agnost doesn't need facts, he's a "anarchist". Gee wiz , perhaps some of our younger posters would like to look that term up. How's anarchy working for ya, boyo? Better than all those cheap shots, I hope. And, you demand logic and statistics for illegal aliens? And your mindset / lifestyle is about uncontrolled insanity? And then, you have the nerve to impugn my sanity ? Hmmm. You know what? I won't hold your support of illegal aliens against them.

 

[sky dancer]

By the by, this quaint thread, was about Colorado's Governor Bill Ritter. He says illegals are...exaggerated. He lives about 6 miles or so from me, and I am sure this is some political crap because he and YOU can't be this god-damn dumb to notice what illegal aliens are doing, are you? NO? Or is there some other explanation for this shit? I would love to hear it.

Don't you think he is referring to the illegal immigration rhetoric being exaggerated? That's definitely true.

 

[Ravi]

This morning on our local radio news it was revealed that undocumented latin men are being mugged at disproportionate rates because they usually travel by foot or bike at night and carry cash from being paid under the table. Squishi should be happy they are bearing the burden of increased muggings as the economy worsens.