I'm pro-gun - ask me anything!

[candycorn]

If you were being fired at by someone, wouldn’t you prefer they spend more time re-loading than firing at you?

I'm more concerned about cover and the ability to get away; absent either, I am more concerned about getting hits and not running out of ammo.
That's why my carry guns have 12 to 16 round magazines, with at least 1 reload on hand.
Why do you want me to run out of ammo?

You can talk all you want about rushing shooter during a split-second magazine change; in doing so you completely ignore the extraordinarily high probability that any person who would rush said shiooter would prefer to have a firearm on hand to shoot the shooter instead.

It was a simple yes or no.

Obviously not.

Would you prefer someone spending more time reloading than shooting? Yes or no.

Why would i want to spend more time reloading than shooting if some asshole was shooting at me?

This is a clean debate zone….

You don’t seem to understand the question.

 

[Blues Man]

Ask me anything, and you'll get an honest answer.

Note that if your question contains falsehoods and/or logical fallacies, that honest answer will make light of same.

Note also that a number of your are on ignore, so if you don't get a response, you'll know why.

Fire away!

If you were being fired at by someone, wouldn’t you prefer they spend more time re-loading than firing at you?

Limiting magazine sizes may do that.

it would also limit how much I can fire back

so

As most people are not armed, this is a lesser concern. You didn’t go in planning to fire in the first place.

But isn’t it true that when the cops do show up, they would have an advantage; 7 or 8 cops vs one shooter who has to re-load every 7 shots?

If you choose not to be armed for self defense that's your problem.
And the cops don't have to ever show up for your protection

 

[Blues Man]

I'm more concerned about cover and the ability to get away; absent either, I am more concerned about getting hits and not running out of ammo.
That's why my carry guns have 12 to 16 round magazines, with at least 1 reload on hand.
Why do you want me to run out of ammo?

You can talk all you want about rushing shooter during a split-second magazine change; in doing so you completely ignore the extraordinarily high probability that any person who would rush said shiooter would prefer to have a firearm on hand to shoot the shooter instead.

It was a simple yes or no.

Obviously not.

Would you prefer someone spending more time reloading than shooting? Yes or no.

Why would i want to spend more time reloading than shooting if some asshole was shooting at me?

This is a clean debate zone….

You don’t seem to understand the question.

I didn't call you an asshole

 

[candycorn]

The question isn’t accurate? Wow…thats a first. LOL….
The question does what it was designed to do...It exposes the idiocy of the opposition to magazine size.

The questoin was a false dichotomy - it allowed for only two valid responses when more exist.
You failed.

Rubbish.

I'm sorry you are't clever enough to trap me into taking a position you agree with - but then, no one is.
Next time, try not offering a false dichotomy or some other fallacy.

The only valid answer falls on the side of logic; it’s better not to be shot at. That you have trouble being honest is a creation of your own lack of character.

YEs it's better not to be shot at but if you are it's better to have a lot of ammo to shoot back

Thanks.

Better not to be shot at than being shot at.

We finally arrived at a sane, honest answer from a gun guy; only took 23 hours.

 

[candycorn]

Ask me anything, and you'll get an honest answer.

Note that if your question contains falsehoods and/or logical fallacies, that honest answer will make light of same.

Note also that a number of your are on ignore, so if you don't get a response, you'll know why.

Fire away!

If you were being fired at by someone, wouldn’t you prefer they spend more time re-loading than firing at you?

Limiting magazine sizes may do that.

it would also limit how much I can fire back

so

As most people are not armed, this is a lesser concern. You didn’t go in planning to fire in the first place.

But isn’t it true that when the cops do show up, they would have an advantage; 7 or 8 cops vs one shooter who has to re-load every 7 shots?

If you choose not to be armed for self defense that's your problem.
And the cops don't have to ever show up for your protection

Non realistic response. You call the cops, they come. Always have, always will.

 

[Blues Man]

The questoin was a false dichotomy - it allowed for only two valid responses when more exist.
You failed.

Rubbish.

I'm sorry you are't clever enough to trap me into taking a position you agree with - but then, no one is.
Next time, try not offering a false dichotomy or some other fallacy.

The only valid answer falls on the side of logic; it’s better not to be shot at. That you have trouble being honest is a creation of your own lack of character.

YEs it's better not to be shot at but if you are it's better to have a lot of ammo to shoot back

Thanks.

Better not to be shot at than being shot at.

We finally arrived at a sane, honest answer from a gun guy; only took 23 hours.

It's also better to win the lottery than not.

No one wants to be shot at but if you are wouldn't you want to be able to shoot back?

 

[candycorn]

It was a simple yes or no.

Obviously not.

Would you prefer someone spending more time reloading than shooting? Yes or no.

Why would i want to spend more time reloading than shooting if some asshole was shooting at me?

This is a clean debate zone….

You don’t seem to understand the question.

I didn't call you an asshole

Still, clean debate zone.

 

[candycorn]

Rubbish.

I'm sorry you are't clever enough to trap me into taking a position you agree with - but then, no one is.
Next time, try not offering a false dichotomy or some other fallacy.

The only valid answer falls on the side of logic; it’s better not to be shot at. That you have trouble being honest is a creation of your own lack of character.

YEs it's better not to be shot at but if you are it's better to have a lot of ammo to shoot back

Thanks.

Better not to be shot at than being shot at.

We finally arrived at a sane, honest answer from a gun guy; only took 23 hours.

It's also better to win the lottery than not.

No one wants to be shot at but if you are wouldn't you want to be able to shoot back?

I wonder if M14 will come in with his “false dichotomy” assessment at this point?

 

[Frannie]

If you were being fired at by someone, wouldn’t you prefer they spend more time re-loading than firing at you?

I'm more concerned about cover and the ability to get away; absent either, I am more concerned about getting hits and not running out of ammo.
That's why my carry guns have 12 to 16 round magazines, with at least 1 reload on hand.
Why do you want me to run out of ammo?

You can talk all you want about rushing shooter during a split-second magazine change; in doing so you completely ignore the extraordinarily high probability that any person who would rush said shiooter would prefer to have a firearm on hand to shoot the shooter instead.

It was a simple yes or no.

Obviously not.

Would you prefer someone spending more time reloading than shooting? Yes or no.

Why would i want to spend more time reloading than shooting if some asshole was shooting at me?

What makes you even dream that if someone starts shooting at you that you will have a weapon in your hand

 

[Blues Man]

Ask me anything, and you'll get an honest answer.

Note that if your question contains falsehoods and/or logical fallacies, that honest answer will make light of same.

Note also that a number of your are on ignore, so if you don't get a response, you'll know why.

Fire away!

If you were being fired at by someone, wouldn’t you prefer they spend more time re-loading than firing at you?

Limiting magazine sizes may do that.

it would also limit how much I can fire back

so

As most people are not armed, this is a lesser concern. You didn’t go in planning to fire in the first place.

But isn’t it true that when the cops do show up, they would have an advantage; 7 or 8 cops vs one shooter who has to re-load every 7 shots?

If you choose not to be armed for self defense that's your problem.
And the cops don't have to ever show up for your protection

Non realistic response. You call the cops, they come. Always have, always will.

Justices Rule Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone

The Supreme Court ruled on Monday that the police did not have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm, even a woman who had obtained a court-issued protective order against a violent husband making an arrest mandatory for a violation

.

 

[Blues Man]

I'm more concerned about cover and the ability to get away; absent either, I am more concerned about getting hits and not running out of ammo.
That's why my carry guns have 12 to 16 round magazines, with at least 1 reload on hand.
Why do you want me to run out of ammo?

You can talk all you want about rushing shooter during a split-second magazine change; in doing so you completely ignore the extraordinarily high probability that any person who would rush said shiooter would prefer to have a firearm on hand to shoot the shooter instead.

It was a simple yes or no.

Obviously not.

Would you prefer someone spending more time reloading than shooting? Yes or no.

Why would i want to spend more time reloading than shooting if some asshole was shooting at me?

What makes you even dream that if someone starts shooting at you that you will have a weapon in your hand

Because I carry a concealed firearm.

Duh

 

[Blues Man]

I'm sorry you are't clever enough to trap me into taking a position you agree with - but then, no one is.
Next time, try not offering a false dichotomy or some other fallacy.

The only valid answer falls on the side of logic; it’s better not to be shot at. That you have trouble being honest is a creation of your own lack of character.

YEs it's better not to be shot at but if you are it's better to have a lot of ammo to shoot back

Thanks.

Better not to be shot at than being shot at.

We finally arrived at a sane, honest answer from a gun guy; only took 23 hours.

It's also better to win the lottery than not.

No one wants to be shot at but if you are wouldn't you want to be able to shoot back?

I wonder if M14 will come in with his “false dichotomy” assessment at this point?

I didn't pose a false dichotomy

 

[Frannie]

It was a simple yes or no.

Obviously not.

Would you prefer someone spending more time reloading than shooting? Yes or no.

Why would i want to spend more time reloading than shooting if some asshole was shooting at me?

What makes you even dream that if someone starts shooting at you that you will have a weapon in your hand

Because I carry a concealed firearm.

Duh

Will it be in your hand when I tap you on the shoulder

 

[candycorn]

If you were being fired at by someone, wouldn’t you prefer they spend more time re-loading than firing at you?

Limiting magazine sizes may do that.

it would also limit how much I can fire back

so

As most people are not armed, this is a lesser concern. You didn’t go in planning to fire in the first place.

But isn’t it true that when the cops do show up, they would have an advantage; 7 or 8 cops vs one shooter who has to re-load every 7 shots?

If you choose not to be armed for self defense that's your problem.
And the cops don't have to ever show up for your protection

Non realistic response. You call the cops, they come. Always have, always will.

Justices Rule Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone

The Supreme Court ruled on Monday that the police did not have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm, even a woman who had obtained a court-issued protective order against a violent husband making an arrest mandatory for a violation

.

Meanwhile back in reality, the police will show up when there are gunshots. What they do after that? Who knows. But the police would have a great advantage over someone who has to reload every 7 shots.
Are we going to have another 23 hours give and take before you have to concede the point?

 

[Blues Man]

Obviously not.

Would you prefer someone spending more time reloading than shooting? Yes or no.

Why would i want to spend more time reloading than shooting if some asshole was shooting at me?

What makes you even dream that if someone starts shooting at you that you will have a weapon in your hand

Because I carry a concealed firearm.

Duh

Will it be in your hand when I tap you on the shoulder

I don't let people sneak up behind me.

It's called situational awareness

 

[Blues Man]

it would also limit how much I can fire back

so

As most people are not armed, this is a lesser concern. You didn’t go in planning to fire in the first place.

But isn’t it true that when the cops do show up, they would have an advantage; 7 or 8 cops vs one shooter who has to re-load every 7 shots?

If you choose not to be armed for self defense that's your problem.
And the cops don't have to ever show up for your protection

Non realistic response. You call the cops, they come. Always have, always will.

Justices Rule Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone

The Supreme Court ruled on Monday that the police did not have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm, even a woman who had obtained a court-issued protective order against a violent husband making an arrest mandatory for a violation

.

Meanwhile back in reality, the police will show up when there are gunshots. What they do after that? Who knows. But the police would have a great advantage over someone who has to reload every 7 shots.
Are we going to have another 23 hours give and take before you have to concede the point?

Yeah keep telling yourself that

If there are gunshots in my neighborhood the cops are at least 20 minutes away I suppose you want to tell me that not having a gun ans waiting for the cops is my best option right?

And FYI you didn't win an argument when I said it's best not to be shot at.

 

[Frannie]

Would you prefer someone spending more time reloading than shooting? Yes or no.

Why would i want to spend more time reloading than shooting if some asshole was shooting at me?

What makes you even dream that if someone starts shooting at you that you will have a weapon in your hand

Because I carry a concealed firearm.

Duh

Will it be in your hand when I tap you on the shoulder

I don't let people sneak up behind me.

It's called situational awareness

There are people behind you all the time, in halls malls and in stores. They are not sneaking, that said if you reach for a weapon after I tap you on the shoulder your arm will be removed before you can arm such weapon.

See kid you are a coward depending on a false crutch

 

[Blues Man]

Why would i want to spend more time reloading than shooting if some asshole was shooting at me?

What makes you even dream that if someone starts shooting at you that you will have a weapon in your hand

Because I carry a concealed firearm.

Duh

Will it be in your hand when I tap you on the shoulder

I don't let people sneak up behind me.

It's called situational awareness

There are people behind you all the time, in halls malls and in stores. They are not sneaking, that said if you reach for a weapon after I tap you on the shoulder your arm will be removed before you can arm such weapon.

See kid you are a coward depending on a false crutch

I don't go to malls.
And I don't let people get right behind me as it makes me uncomfortable.

Maybe because I was the victim of a violent attack when I was younger I tend to be more careful

 

[Frannie]

What makes you even dream that if someone starts shooting at you that you will have a weapon in your hand

Because I carry a concealed firearm.

Duh

Will it be in your hand when I tap you on the shoulder

I don't let people sneak up behind me.

It's called situational awareness

There are people behind you all the time, in halls malls and in stores. They are not sneaking, that said if you reach for a weapon after I tap you on the shoulder your arm will be removed before you can arm such weapon.

See kid you are a coward depending on a false crutch

I don't go to malls.
And I don't let people get right behind me as it makes me uncomfortable.

Maybe because I was the victim of a violent attack when I was younger I tend to be more careful

So you are a gun carrying anti social outcast. Just like I said, you have a massive insecurity issue and no confidence without a weapon. Confidence would disarm you in a heartbeat

 

[Blues Man]

Because I carry a concealed firearm.

Duh

Will it be in your hand when I tap you on the shoulder

I don't let people sneak up behind me.

It's called situational awareness

There are people behind you all the time, in halls malls and in stores. They are not sneaking, that said if you reach for a weapon after I tap you on the shoulder your arm will be removed before you can arm such weapon.

See kid you are a coward depending on a false crutch

I don't go to malls.
And I don't let people get right behind me as it makes me uncomfortable.

Maybe because I was the victim of a violent attack when I was younger I tend to be more careful

So you are a gun carrying anti social outcast. Just like I said, you have a massive insecurity issue and no confidence without a weapon. Confidence would disarm you in a heartbeat

So I'm antisocial because I hate going to the mall?

And you have no clue as to who I am, what I do, or anything else about me for that matter.

And we'll see how well your confidence works against 3 guys who rob and beat you leaving you with 3 cracked ribs, a fractured eye orbital, and a lacerated spleen.