Illegals, Unemployment and Food Stamps Down, Markets Soar

Thanks Obama.
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He's not in office.

His work in office still effects the economy. New presidents do not have an effect on the economy for at least a year.

I had a lot of issues with Obama but the economy was the one thing he did right. Pulled us out of a recession.
The economy started to pick up after Trump won the election.

Really? So unemployment wasn't on a decline trend before Trump won?

Food stamp use was on the increase under Obama despite claims of more people working. Care to make excuses for him?
 
Thanks Obama.
5g0FC8XX_400x400.jpg
He's not in office.

His work in office still effects the economy. New presidents do not have an effect on the economy for at least a year.

I had a lot of issues with Obama but the economy was the one thing he did right. Pulled us out of a recession.
The economy started to pick up after Trump won the election.

Really? So unemployment wasn't on a decline trend?
Not like it started after Trump became president. Businesses realized that all of Obama's regulations affecting them would be gone. We have Toyota and another major car company coming. Also BMW here in greenville are expanding big time. Thank to president Trump.

July 2016

Strong: U.S. economy adds 255,000 jobs in July

July 2017
U.S. Economy Added 209,000 Jobs in July -- Live Analysis
 
Yeah, right. The right wing has "streets named after them called, One Way."

When it comes to being responsible for yourself, there is only one way.
Do it yourselves and "blame the poor"?

If you're unwilling to do for yourself, who else is there to blame but the unwilling ones?
Bailout the rich but not poor, is your idea of equality, right wingers?

The rich paying more in taxes while the poor pay nothing is your idea of equality?
Capitalism is not about equality. Taxes are for the privilege of Capitalism instead of socialism.
 
Thanks Obama.
5g0FC8XX_400x400.jpg
He's not in office.

His work in office still effects the economy. New presidents do not have an effect on the economy for at least a year.

I had a lot of issues with Obama but the economy was the one thing he did right. Pulled us out of a recession.
The economy started to pick up after Trump won the election.

Really? So unemployment wasn't on a decline trend before Trump won?

Food stamp use was on the increase under Obama despite claims of more people working. Care to make excuses for him?

A lot of working people receive food stamps. Wages are the issue. If you want to make an argument about wages during Obama administration then you have a valid point. But unemployment decreased under Obama whether you choose to believe it or not.
Just because someone receives food stamps doesn't mean they aren't working or lazy. You also have to take into account for a portion of Obama's time is office there was a recession so people applying for food stamps did go up due to the recession.

Like unemployment, food stamp usage was on the decline prior to Trump being elected.

From 2016

2M people off food stamp benefits in last year


The number of people on food stamps is at a 5-year low
 
Again... for the hard of learning... for consistency's sake... Obama is responsible for the economy he handed Trump just like Bush was responsible for the economy he handed Obama.

Again I get it laughable jokes like you will not give credit to Trump for anything positive the same as you never gave blame to your monkey Messiah Obama for anything negative, we've seen it all before


And calling the economy Obama handed Trump, a "shit economy," only exposes your own ignorance.

Lol no your claim that it was a good economy exposes that you have never worked a day in your life, that you live in your parents basement rent free and/or are still on federal loans for college to get a degree that is worth nothing but debt in todays America. Am I in the ball park?


But ya sure, 8 years of stagnant wages, 9.3% U6 unemployment rate, a record 95 million out of the labor force, and the slowest recovery since the great depression that didn't see a pre-recession growth rate until his final year in office, it was just a stellar economy, you fucking laughable joke of a human being, fucking kill yourself.
 
Thanks Obama.
5g0FC8XX_400x400.jpg
He's not in office.

His work in office still effects the economy. New presidents do not have an effect on the economy for at least a year.

I had a lot of issues with Obama but the economy was the one thing he did right. Pulled us out of a recession.
The economy started to pick up after Trump won the election.

Really? So unemployment wasn't on a decline trend?
Not like it started after Trump became president. Businesses realized that all of Obama's regulations affecting them would be gone. We have Toyota and another major car company coming. Also BMW here in greenville are expanding big time. Thank to president Trump.

Carroll Campbell deserves the credit for BMW coming to SC.
 
He's not in office.

His work in office still effects the economy. New presidents do not have an effect on the economy for at least a year.

I had a lot of issues with Obama but the economy was the one thing he did right. Pulled us out of a recession.
The economy started to pick up after Trump won the election.

Really? So unemployment wasn't on a decline trend?
Not like it started after Trump became president. Businesses realized that all of Obama's regulations affecting them would be gone. We have Toyota and another major car company coming. Also BMW here in greenville are expanding big time. Thank to president Trump.

Carroll Campbell deserves the credit for BMW coming to SC.
Yes, I remember one of the best things he did.
 
His work in office still effects the economy. New presidents do not have an effect on the economy for at least a year.

I had a lot of issues with Obama but the economy was the one thing he did right. Pulled us out of a recession.
The economy started to pick up after Trump won the election.

Really? So unemployment wasn't on a decline trend?
Not like it started after Trump became president. Businesses realized that all of Obama's regulations affecting them would be gone. We have Toyota and another major car company coming. Also BMW here in greenville are expanding big time. Thank to president Trump.

Carroll Campbell deserves the credit for BMW coming to SC.
Yes, I remember one of the best things he did.

A boom to the economy and it made a lot of local people wealthy due to the sale of their land.
 
Again... for the hard of learning... for consistency's sake... Obama is responsible for the economy he handed Trump just like Bush was responsible for the economy he handed Obama.

Again I get it laughable jokes like you will not give credit to Trump for anything positive the same as you never gave blame to your monkey Messiah Obama for anything negative, we've seen it all before


And calling the economy Obama handed Trump, a "shit economy," only exposes your own ignorance.

Lol no your claim that it was a good economy exposes that you have never worked a day in your life, that you live in your parents basement rent free and/or are still on federal loans for college to get a degree that is worth nothing but debt in todays America. Am I in the ball park?


But ya sure, 8 years of stagnant wages, 9.3% U6 unemployment rate, a record 95 million out of the labor force, and the slowest recovery since the great depression that didn't see a pre-recession growth rate until his final year in office, it was just a stellar economy, you fucking laughable joke of a human being, fucking kill yourself.
The republicans should be "basking in their majority glory", but for a lack of a better plan, Stan.
 
Again... for the hard of learning... for consistency's sake... Obama is responsible for the economy he handed Trump just like Bush was responsible for the economy he handed Obama.

Again I get it laughable jokes like you will not give credit to Trump for anything positive the same as you never gave blame to your monkey Messiah Obama for anything negative, we've seen it all before


And calling the economy Obama handed Trump, a "shit economy," only exposes your own ignorance.

Lol no your claim that it was a good economy exposes that you have never worked a day in your life, that you live in your parents basement rent free and/or are still on federal loans for college to get a degree that is worth nothing but debt in todays America. Am I in the ball park?


But ya sure, 8 years of stagnant wages, 9.3% U6 unemployment rate, a record 95 million out of the labor force, and the slowest recovery since the great depression that didn't see a pre-recession growth rate until his final year in office, it was just a stellar economy, you fucking laughable joke of a human being, fucking kill yourself.
Ballpark? Shit, moron, you're not even in the same country. I pay more in taxes than you collect begging at highway off ramps. And my lakeside home is no basement. Hell, I could fit your cardboard box home in my dog's house out back and there'd still be room for the dog. Though your stench would keep him away..

As far as wages, this is what "stagnant" looks like to an imbecile...

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As far as employment, an unprecedented 76 consecutive months of growth. Something no conservative has even come close to achieving...

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Thanks Obama.
5g0FC8XX_400x400.jpg
He's not in office.

His work in office still effects the economy. New presidents do not have an effect on the economy for at least a year.

I had a lot of issues with Obama but the economy was the one thing he did right. Pulled us out of a recession.
The economy started to pick up after Trump won the election.
Great, yet another brain-dead con shares its delusions on the forum.

Oh, brain-dead con? In which areas has the economy "picked up" since the election?

In the 9 months recorded since the election, the BLS recorded 1.2 million jobs added. Pales in comparison to the 2.0 million jobs added during the previous 9 months.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

In the 8 months recorded since the election, inflation has averaged 2.44%. More than double the 1.13% during the previous 8 months.

Historical Inflation Rate- Annual Inflation rates from 1913 to the present |InflationData.com

GDP over the last 3 quarters, up 1.4%, is the same as the previous three quarters.

https://www.bea.gov/national/xls/gdplev.xls
 
Thanks Obama.
5g0FC8XX_400x400.jpg
He's not in office.

His work in office still effects the economy. New presidents do not have an effect on the economy for at least a year.

I had a lot of issues with Obama but the economy was the one thing he did right. Pulled us out of a recession.
The economy started to pick up after Trump won the election.
Great, yet another brain-dead con shares its delusions on the forum.

Oh, brain-dead con? In which areas has the economy "picked up" since the election?

In the 9 months recorded since the election, the BLS recorded 1.2 million jobs added. Pales in comparison to the 2.0 million jobs added during the previous 9 months.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

In the 8 months recorded since the election, inflation has averaged 2.44%. More than double the 1.13% during the previous 8 months.

Historical Inflation Rate- Annual Inflation rates from 1913 to the present |InflationData.com

GDP over the last 3 quarters, up 1.4%, is the same as the previous three quarters.

https://www.bea.gov/national/xls/gdplev.xls

Funny how all of you that want to give Obama credit refuse to acknowledge that while he was claiming to have created jobs, he was creating more and more on food stamps.

When the stock market hit record highs under Obama, you couldn't wait to get in line to kiss his black ass. When it's over 22,000 under Trump, you still kiss his black ass. Why couldn't the black guy do as well as then white guy?
 
Thanks Obama.
5g0FC8XX_400x400.jpg
He's not in office.

His work in office still effects the economy. New presidents do not have an effect on the economy for at least a year.

I had a lot of issues with Obama but the economy was the one thing he did right. Pulled us out of a recession.
If you understood basic economics you would know that Ben Bernacke and the Fed reversed the recession by artificially suppressing interest rates.
 
Thanks Obama.
5g0FC8XX_400x400.jpg
He's not in office.

His work in office still effects the economy. New presidents do not have an effect on the economy for at least a year.

I had a lot of issues with Obama but the economy was the one thing he did right. Pulled us out of a recession.
The economy started to pick up after Trump won the election.
Great, yet another brain-dead con shares its delusions on the forum.

Oh, brain-dead con? In which areas has the economy "picked up" since the election?

In the 9 months recorded since the election, the BLS recorded 1.2 million jobs added. Pales in comparison to the 2.0 million jobs added during the previous 9 months.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

In the 8 months recorded since the election, inflation has averaged 2.44%. More than double the 1.13% during the previous 8 months.

Historical Inflation Rate- Annual Inflation rates from 1913 to the present |InflationData.com

GDP over the last 3 quarters, up 1.4%, is the same as the previous three quarters.

https://www.bea.gov/national/xls/gdplev.xls

Funny how all of you that want to give Obama credit refuse to acknowledge that while he was claiming to have created jobs, he was creating more and more on food stamps.

When the stock market hit record highs under Obama, you couldn't wait to get in line to kiss his black ass. When it's over 22,000 under Trump, you still kiss his black ass. Why couldn't the black guy do as well as then white guy?
WTF are you smoking? First of all, SNAP participation is not an indicator of the economy. Secondly, SNAP participation increased 51% under Obama but it increased 64% under Bush. I have no doubt you never said anything critical about Bush for that. And since race seems so pressing to you, I can only guess that's because you're racist.

As far as the stock market, Trump has nothing on Obama...


Obama:
  • DJIA: UP 139%
  • NASDAQ: UP 265%
  • S&P500: UP 167%

Trump:
  • DJIA: UP 11%
  • NASDAQ: UP 14%
  • S&P500: UP 9%
 
He's not in office.

His work in office still effects the economy. New presidents do not have an effect on the economy for at least a year.

I had a lot of issues with Obama but the economy was the one thing he did right. Pulled us out of a recession.
The economy started to pick up after Trump won the election.
Great, yet another brain-dead con shares its delusions on the forum.

Oh, brain-dead con? In which areas has the economy "picked up" since the election?

In the 9 months recorded since the election, the BLS recorded 1.2 million jobs added. Pales in comparison to the 2.0 million jobs added during the previous 9 months.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

In the 8 months recorded since the election, inflation has averaged 2.44%. More than double the 1.13% during the previous 8 months.

Historical Inflation Rate- Annual Inflation rates from 1913 to the present |InflationData.com

GDP over the last 3 quarters, up 1.4%, is the same as the previous three quarters.

https://www.bea.gov/national/xls/gdplev.xls

Funny how all of you that want to give Obama credit refuse to acknowledge that while he was claiming to have created jobs, he was creating more and more on food stamps.

When the stock market hit record highs under Obama, you couldn't wait to get in line to kiss his black ass. When it's over 22,000 under Trump, you still kiss his black ass. Why couldn't the black guy do as well as then white guy?
WTF are you smoking? First of all, SNAP participation is not an indicator of the economy. Secondly, SNAP participation increased 51% under Obama but it increased 64% under Bush. I have no doubt you never said anything critical about Bush for that. And since race seems so pressing to you, I can only guess that's because you're racist.

As far as the stock market, Trump has nothing on Obama...


Obama:
  • DJIA: UP 139%
  • NASDAQ: UP 265%
  • S&P500: UP 167%

Trump:
  • DJIA: UP 11%
  • NASDAQ: UP 14%
  • S&P500: UP 9%

SNAP is an indicator of whether or not you can do for yourself/your family what is your responsibility to do. Since having a job is the best way to do so, if more people were working, why were more people using something that should be used less if they are working?

Difference between Obama and Bush was that unemployment was going up under Bush while food stamp use was going up. Only under Obama are we expected to believe that an inverse relationship is how things are supposed to work.

Keep puckering. Only a NL would compare numbers over an 8 year span to number over 1/16 that span. You got your BOY in office and he fucked it up. I guess you have to cover for him in order to ever have a chance of getting another.
 
His work in office still effects the economy. New presidents do not have an effect on the economy for at least a year.

I had a lot of issues with Obama but the economy was the one thing he did right. Pulled us out of a recession.
The economy started to pick up after Trump won the election.
Great, yet another brain-dead con shares its delusions on the forum.

Oh, brain-dead con? In which areas has the economy "picked up" since the election?

In the 9 months recorded since the election, the BLS recorded 1.2 million jobs added. Pales in comparison to the 2.0 million jobs added during the previous 9 months.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

In the 8 months recorded since the election, inflation has averaged 2.44%. More than double the 1.13% during the previous 8 months.

Historical Inflation Rate- Annual Inflation rates from 1913 to the present |InflationData.com

GDP over the last 3 quarters, up 1.4%, is the same as the previous three quarters.

https://www.bea.gov/national/xls/gdplev.xls

Funny how all of you that want to give Obama credit refuse to acknowledge that while he was claiming to have created jobs, he was creating more and more on food stamps.

When the stock market hit record highs under Obama, you couldn't wait to get in line to kiss his black ass. When it's over 22,000 under Trump, you still kiss his black ass. Why couldn't the black guy do as well as then white guy?
WTF are you smoking? First of all, SNAP participation is not an indicator of the economy. Secondly, SNAP participation increased 51% under Obama but it increased 64% under Bush. I have no doubt you never said anything critical about Bush for that. And since race seems so pressing to you, I can only guess that's because you're racist.

As far as the stock market, Trump has nothing on Obama...


Obama:
  • DJIA: UP 139%
  • NASDAQ: UP 265%
  • S&P500: UP 167%

Trump:
  • DJIA: UP 11%
  • NASDAQ: UP 14%
  • S&P500: UP 9%

SNAP is an indicator of whether or not you can do for yourself/your family what is your responsibility to do. Since having a job is the best way to do so, if more people were working, why were more people using something that should be used less if they are working?

Difference between Obama and Bush was that unemployment was going up under Bush while food stamp use was going up. Only under Obama are we expected to believe that an inverse relationship is how things are supposed to work.

Keep puckering. Only a NL would compare numbers over an 8 year span to number over 1/16 that span. You got your BOY in office and he fucked it up. I guess you have to cover for him in order to ever have a chance of getting another.
Moron... again... SNAP participation is not an economic indicator. I responded to an idiot who falsely claimed the economy has picked up since the election by posting economic indicators to prove that idiot is an idiot. That apparently bothers you, so here you are trying to divert the conversion to be about SNAP participation, (which grew more under Bush than Obama anyway) which is not an economic indicator.

Most folks who went on it between 2008-2011 did so as a result of Bush's Great Recession anyway.
 
The economy started to pick up after Trump won the election.
Great, yet another brain-dead con shares its delusions on the forum.

Oh, brain-dead con? In which areas has the economy "picked up" since the election?

In the 9 months recorded since the election, the BLS recorded 1.2 million jobs added. Pales in comparison to the 2.0 million jobs added during the previous 9 months.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

In the 8 months recorded since the election, inflation has averaged 2.44%. More than double the 1.13% during the previous 8 months.

Historical Inflation Rate- Annual Inflation rates from 1913 to the present |InflationData.com

GDP over the last 3 quarters, up 1.4%, is the same as the previous three quarters.

https://www.bea.gov/national/xls/gdplev.xls

Funny how all of you that want to give Obama credit refuse to acknowledge that while he was claiming to have created jobs, he was creating more and more on food stamps.

When the stock market hit record highs under Obama, you couldn't wait to get in line to kiss his black ass. When it's over 22,000 under Trump, you still kiss his black ass. Why couldn't the black guy do as well as then white guy?
WTF are you smoking? First of all, SNAP participation is not an indicator of the economy. Secondly, SNAP participation increased 51% under Obama but it increased 64% under Bush. I have no doubt you never said anything critical about Bush for that. And since race seems so pressing to you, I can only guess that's because you're racist.

As far as the stock market, Trump has nothing on Obama...


Obama:
  • DJIA: UP 139%
  • NASDAQ: UP 265%
  • S&P500: UP 167%

Trump:
  • DJIA: UP 11%
  • NASDAQ: UP 14%
  • S&P500: UP 9%

SNAP is an indicator of whether or not you can do for yourself/your family what is your responsibility to do. Since having a job is the best way to do so, if more people were working, why were more people using something that should be used less if they are working?

Difference between Obama and Bush was that unemployment was going up under Bush while food stamp use was going up. Only under Obama are we expected to believe that an inverse relationship is how things are supposed to work.

Keep puckering. Only a NL would compare numbers over an 8 year span to number over 1/16 that span. You got your BOY in office and he fucked it up. I guess you have to cover for him in order to ever have a chance of getting another.
Moron... again... SNAP participation is not an economic indicator. I responded to an idiot who falsely claimed the economy has picked up since the election by posting economic indicators to prove that idiot is an idiot. That apparently bothers you, so here you are trying to divert the conversion to be about SNAP participation, (which grew more under Bush than Obama anyway) which is not an economic indicator.

Most folks who went on it between 2008-2011 did so as a result of Bush's Great Recession anyway.

People also keep spouting that folks receiving SNAP don't have jobs. They think the number of people receiving food stamps is always correlated with unemployment. Which is not always the case.

Especially with a $7.25 minimum (that many repdont want raised) its hard to afford food for your family.
 
The economy started to pick up after Trump won the election.
Great, yet another brain-dead con shares its delusions on the forum.

Oh, brain-dead con? In which areas has the economy "picked up" since the election?

In the 9 months recorded since the election, the BLS recorded 1.2 million jobs added. Pales in comparison to the 2.0 million jobs added during the previous 9 months.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

In the 8 months recorded since the election, inflation has averaged 2.44%. More than double the 1.13% during the previous 8 months.

Historical Inflation Rate- Annual Inflation rates from 1913 to the present |InflationData.com

GDP over the last 3 quarters, up 1.4%, is the same as the previous three quarters.

https://www.bea.gov/national/xls/gdplev.xls

Funny how all of you that want to give Obama credit refuse to acknowledge that while he was claiming to have created jobs, he was creating more and more on food stamps.

When the stock market hit record highs under Obama, you couldn't wait to get in line to kiss his black ass. When it's over 22,000 under Trump, you still kiss his black ass. Why couldn't the black guy do as well as then white guy?
WTF are you smoking? First of all, SNAP participation is not an indicator of the economy. Secondly, SNAP participation increased 51% under Obama but it increased 64% under Bush. I have no doubt you never said anything critical about Bush for that. And since race seems so pressing to you, I can only guess that's because you're racist.

As far as the stock market, Trump has nothing on Obama...


Obama:
  • DJIA: UP 139%
  • NASDAQ: UP 265%
  • S&P500: UP 167%

Trump:
  • DJIA: UP 11%
  • NASDAQ: UP 14%
  • S&P500: UP 9%

SNAP is an indicator of whether or not you can do for yourself/your family what is your responsibility to do. Since having a job is the best way to do so, if more people were working, why were more people using something that should be used less if they are working?

Difference between Obama and Bush was that unemployment was going up under Bush while food stamp use was going up. Only under Obama are we expected to believe that an inverse relationship is how things are supposed to work.

Keep puckering. Only a NL would compare numbers over an 8 year span to number over 1/16 that span. You got your BOY in office and he fucked it up. I guess you have to cover for him in order to ever have a chance of getting another.
Moron... again... SNAP participation is not an economic indicator. I responded to an idiot who falsely claimed the economy has picked up since the election by posting economic indicators to prove that idiot is an idiot. That apparently bothers you, so here you are trying to divert the conversion to be about SNAP participation, (which grew more under Bush than Obama anyway) which is not an economic indicator.

Most folks who went on it between 2008-2011 did so as a result of Bush's Great Recession anyway.

Never said it was.

One would expect SNAP to increase when unemployment increases. Only Obama dumbasses would expect it to go up when unemployment was going down. Doesn't work that way.
 
Great, yet another brain-dead con shares its delusions on the forum.

Oh, brain-dead con? In which areas has the economy "picked up" since the election?

In the 9 months recorded since the election, the BLS recorded 1.2 million jobs added. Pales in comparison to the 2.0 million jobs added during the previous 9 months.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

In the 8 months recorded since the election, inflation has averaged 2.44%. More than double the 1.13% during the previous 8 months.

Historical Inflation Rate- Annual Inflation rates from 1913 to the present |InflationData.com

GDP over the last 3 quarters, up 1.4%, is the same as the previous three quarters.

https://www.bea.gov/national/xls/gdplev.xls

Funny how all of you that want to give Obama credit refuse to acknowledge that while he was claiming to have created jobs, he was creating more and more on food stamps.

When the stock market hit record highs under Obama, you couldn't wait to get in line to kiss his black ass. When it's over 22,000 under Trump, you still kiss his black ass. Why couldn't the black guy do as well as then white guy?
WTF are you smoking? First of all, SNAP participation is not an indicator of the economy. Secondly, SNAP participation increased 51% under Obama but it increased 64% under Bush. I have no doubt you never said anything critical about Bush for that. And since race seems so pressing to you, I can only guess that's because you're racist.

As far as the stock market, Trump has nothing on Obama...


Obama:
  • DJIA: UP 139%
  • NASDAQ: UP 265%
  • S&P500: UP 167%

Trump:
  • DJIA: UP 11%
  • NASDAQ: UP 14%
  • S&P500: UP 9%

SNAP is an indicator of whether or not you can do for yourself/your family what is your responsibility to do. Since having a job is the best way to do so, if more people were working, why were more people using something that should be used less if they are working?

Difference between Obama and Bush was that unemployment was going up under Bush while food stamp use was going up. Only under Obama are we expected to believe that an inverse relationship is how things are supposed to work.

Keep puckering. Only a NL would compare numbers over an 8 year span to number over 1/16 that span. You got your BOY in office and he fucked it up. I guess you have to cover for him in order to ever have a chance of getting another.
Moron... again... SNAP participation is not an economic indicator. I responded to an idiot who falsely claimed the economy has picked up since the election by posting economic indicators to prove that idiot is an idiot. That apparently bothers you, so here you are trying to divert the conversion to be about SNAP participation, (which grew more under Bush than Obama anyway) which is not an economic indicator.

Most folks who went on it between 2008-2011 did so as a result of Bush's Great Recession anyway.

People also keep spouting that folks receiving SNAP don't have jobs. They think the number of people receiving food stamps is always correlated with unemployment. Which is not always the case.

Especially with a $7.25 minimum (that many repdont want raised) its hard to afford food for your family.

It has until the black President took over. Bush is chastised for unemployment and food stamp use going up. In other words, the claims of food stamp use increasing under him was part of the chastising he took for jobs being lost. However when jobs are supposedly being added, we're supposed to believe the food stamp using going up is a normal thing.
 

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