Illegal Employer Problem

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    Republicans like to blame bleeding heart liberals for illegal immigration. But the fact is, if people weren't hiring them, they'd go home. Who's hiring them? Small business owners? Aren't they typically Republicans?

    Here are three great articles on the subject:

    ThomHartmann.com - Today's Immigration Battle Corporatists vs. Racists (and Labor is Left Behind)

    ThomHartmann.com - Illegal Workers: the Con's Secret Weapon


    ThomHartmann.com - Reclaiming the Issues: "It's an Illegal Employer Problem"
     
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    Sealybobo, I agree that the repubs, do not help the situation at all with their hiring of illegals. However I also see that the majority, if not all, mayors of sanctuary cities are dems { I cannot think of a mayor who is a repub doing this}. Also dems also own business and hire illegals. So what we get is a bunch of bloviating rhetoric from both sides while the problem continues. All I can think of when it comes to our politicans "talking" about solving problems is Mel Brooks in Blazing Saddles pounding his desk saying "we have to protect our phoney baloney jobs gentelmen". Alot of talk, while things continue to deteroriate and nothing really worth while gets accomplished. IMHO.
     
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    Liberals are to blame for the illegals 'more' than conservatives. Liberals want to give them drivers licenses, liberals want them to be able to vote, liberals don't want a fence, liberals convict good border guards like Ramos and Compean, liberals create sanctuary cities NYC and San Franqueerco, liberals want to call them undocumented immigrants instead of what they are, ILLEGAL ALIENS... shall I go on?

    Sure there's a repub or two that are sell outs, like bush and mcamnesty, but not many otherwise. You liberals have always been illegal alien coddlers and excuse makers. Just ask one like Sky Dancer.

    I agree 100% with one point you've made, and that's that if no one would hire them, they'd have no reason to come here, but liberals have also fought against E-verify, which conservatives support.

    So sorry, but you argue a losing battle when you try and blame conservatives for the illegal alien problem and not the liberals.
     
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    What about making the American employers obey the local, state and federal laws already on the books. Americans should report any employer hiring illegal aliens. If the employers can't make a living without lying, cheating and breaking the laws. Maybe, the employer shouldn't be in business in the first place and the employer should go get a job!



    Excerpt:

    Sec. 274A. [8 U.S.C. 1324a]

    (a) Making Employment of Unauthorized Aliens Unlawful.-
    (1) In general.-It is unlawful for a person or other entity-
    (A) to hire, or to recruit or refer for a fee, for employment in the United States an alien
    knowing the alien is an unauthorized alien (as defined in subsection (h)(3)) with respect to such
    employment, or

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    ... Employment of Unauthorized Aliens ... is unlawful for a person or other entity, after hiring an alien for ... 274A - UNLAWFUL


     
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    BrokeLoser eat my fucking ass. This was me in 2009 and these articles are Thom Hartmann 2006.

    Show me that Republicans were on the right side of this issue even last year let along a decade ago. You dishonest fuck.
     
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    Here is a great example of how the Republicans have completely changed. Reagan and Bush and McCain and Romney and the GOP were very soft on illegals. Trump sounds nothing like them. This is one of the things I like about Trump.

    The GOP's Evolution On Immigration

    Reagan speaking about Mexico said "Rather than talking about putting up a fence," the future president said. "Why don't we work out some recognition of our mutual problems?"

    On the stage debating him that day was another 1980 GOP presidential hopeful and future president, George H.W. Bush. He was asked by an audience member if children in the country illegally should be allowed to attend U.S. public schools.

    Bush didn't hesitate, saying he doesn't want to see 6- or 8-year-olds being uneducated or "made to feel that they're living outside the law."

    A couple of decades later, the presidency of George W. Bush brought another major push for immigration overhaul. Former Bush press secretary Ari Fleischer notes that the 43rd president's campaign slogan of "compassionate conservatism" applied to immigration.

    Fleischer says that because Bush had been governor of Texas, he had a realistic view of who was coming across the border. "As a border governor, he had a personal understanding and a personal relationship with many of the immigrants who crossed the Rio Grande and came to Texas for work and liberty and for America's opportunity," Fleischer said.

    Bush proposed changes to U.S. immigration law at an event at the White House in January 2004 that would make it easier for people to cross back and forth over the border to work legally in the United States. Bush described the problems he saw brought about by existing law. "Many undocumented workers walked mile after mile, through heat of day and cold of the night. Some have risked their lives in dangerous desert border crossings," Bush said. "Workers who seek only to earn a living end up in the shadows of American life."
     
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    As I said before, it's an illegal employer problem!!! Was I right or what?

    Don't build a wall. Go after the illegal employers and the problem will stop

    The man accused of pursuing and killing 20-year-old Mollie Tibbetts had worked four years at an Iowa dairy farm based on false identification, his employer said Wednesday.

    "What we learned in the last 24 hours is that our employee was not who he said he was," said Dane Lang, the co-owner and manager of Yarrabee Farms.

    Bullshit!!!

    Reclaiming the Issues: "It's an Illegal Employer Problem"
     
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    Encouraging a rapid increase in the workforce by encouraging companies to hire non-citizens is one of the three most potent tools conservatives since Ronald Reagan have used to convert the American middle class into the American working poor. (The other two are destroying the governmental protections that keep labor unions viable, and ending tariffs while promoting trade deals like NAFTA/WTO/GATT that export manufacturing jobs.)
     
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    But Dobbs and his fellow Republicans say the solution is to "secure our border" with a fence like that used by East Germany, but that stretches a distance about the same as that from Washington, DC to Chicago. It'll be a multi-billion-dollar boon to Halliburton and Bechtel, who will undoubtedly get the construction and maintenance contracts, but it won't stop illegal immigration. (Instead, people will legally come in on tourist and other visas, and not leave when their visas expire.)
     
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