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    The Mexican army and heavily armed federal police with a helicopter flying overhead raided a drug warehouse Thursday morning in Juárez even as killings are surging beyond the extraordinary levels of last year.

    If it isn't a war zone, it would be hard to tell by the body count, which has reached 207 in the Juárez area this year.

    In the first five days of February, 54 people were slain, surpassing the 37 homicides in all of February last year.

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    Last Saturday, three severed heads - the latest in a string of similar decapitations in the valley - were found in an ice chest in the main plaza in El Millón, along with an undisclosed threatening message, police said.

    The valley drug-smuggling corridor is reputedly controlled by Jose Rodolfo Escajeda, alias "El Rikin," who was featured by the Drug Enforcement Administration on a "wanted" billboard in El Paso last year, a DEA spokesman said. Escajeda remains at large.

    full article: 207 dead; army storms warehouse in Juárez - El Paso Times


    how do we stop this type of violence from coming into our country? or can we? my suggestion..legal pot..take the profit out of drugs...invest the money expended on the failed drug war....on other things
     
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    If we legalize and take the profit out of pot, how will the Mexicans get paid, won't they be angry?

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    "3 Baja cops, civilian found decapitated; cartels blamed"

    ROSARITO BEACH – The decapitated bodies of three police officers and a civilian were discovered here yesterday morning, and their heads were found hours later in Tijuana in what some see as a particularly grisly message from drug cartels.

    SignOnSanDiego.com > News > Mexico > Tijuana & The Border -- 3 Baja cops, civilian found decapitated; cartels blamed

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    "9 headless bodies found in Mexican border city "
    Nov. 30, 2008

    TIJUANA, Mexico - The bodies of nine decapitated men were found in a vacant lot in Tijuana Sunday, part of a wave of violence that claimed at least 23 lives over the weekend in this border city plagued by warring traffickers, authorities said.

    9 headless bodies found in Mexican border city

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    "12 decapitated bodies found in Mexico"

    Authorities found the decapitated bodies of 12 men in the southern state of Guerrero on Sunday, and some of the victims have been identified as soldiers.

    12 decapitated bodies found in Mexico - Topix

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    Phoenix papers report that 6 Mexicans killed a Phoenix man who was found dead by police in a local neighborhood home riddled with more than 100 bullets. Google or click on:They're known as "Los Zetas

    Dozens of people have been decapitated in Mexico so far this year, with heads stuck on fence posts, found in trash bags and heads being tossed onto a nightclub dance floor for all to see.Google or click on:
    Alarming Sensitive U.S. Government


    National Writers Syndicate - Mexico’s Civil War Killing More Americans

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    "Young girl raped and beheaded in Florida by Mexican traffickers"

    June 30, 2008

    A little girl who, after being taken to the Florida panhandle from Mexico, resisted while being raped, and was subsequently made an example of by being beheaded in front of other girls being held to be raped repeatedly. The girls made to watch were then left in the room with the little girls body for several hours. Click here for video (SOURCE:Hyscience)

    Young girl beheaded in Florida b

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    KTSM News
    February 2, 2009

    "Tijuana mexico, 2006, four people are arrested and charged with murder."

    Police say the four were drug smugglers, who turned on one of their partners. The victim, was tied to a chair. His captors wanted the money he had taken from them. They weren't happy when they found out he had spent it.

    "This subject gets a saw and cuts off his leg, cuts off another leg, cuts off his arm. He's dead and then this girl gets the cutting saw and cuts off his head and takes his head and offers it up to Santa Muerte." says Robert Almonte, the head of the Texas Narcotics Officers Association. Santa Muerte, the saint of death, was given the head as an offering.

    Only on 9: The Dark Religion of the Santa Muerte | KTSM.com | El Paso · Las Cruces · Juarez

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    "The Dark Religion of the Santa Muerte"

    September, 2008, Yucantan, Mexico, just outside of cancun. Eleven bodies are found, heads cut off, and the bodies stacked on top of each other. In a nearby field, police find a circle where there are eleven burned spots. Authorities believe the heads of the eleven victims were burned here. Days later, when police raid the homes of the men they say were involved they found shrines to Santa Muerte. Investigators believe that was also an offering to Santa Muerte.

    Banuelas explains the human offerings this way. "Just cut off somebody's head and give it to the Santa Muerte and you think you're being religious and they are violating everything that is religious in their soul."

    Only on 9: The Dark Religion of the Santa Muerte | KTSM.com | El Paso · Las Cruces · Juarez

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    Hezbollah is now believed to be training Mexican drug cartel enforcers the art of bomb making. The training is designed to combat the Mexican Army and police, American Special Forces and DEA agents now operating in Mexico.
    American Chronicle | Mexican Drug cartels and Hezbollah operating in Mexico and U.S.

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    U.S. law enforcement has established that there is increasing coordination between Mexican drug cartels, human smuggling networks and U.S.-based gangs. The cartels use street and prison gangs located in the United States as their distribution networks. In the United States, the gang members operate as surrogates and enforcers for the cartels.

    Members of Hezbollah (terrorist group) have already entered the United States across the Southwest border.


    HOUSE COMMITTEE ON HOMELAND SECURITY
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    http://www.house.gov/mccaul/pdf/Inve...der-Report.pdf

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    Another brutal means of torture and death is called “guisoe.” This practice involves putting a person into a 55 gallon drum, usually dead, but not always, and pouring various flammable liquids over the body and lighting it on fire. A variation on this method is to place a burning tire around the neck of an individual, burning the victim alive. The remains are dumped on roadsides as a message to others who would consider crossing the cartels. The ruthless methods employed by these cartels to torture and kill their competitors are no different than the techniques used by Al Qa'ida and other terrorist organizations. This level of brutality is particulary troubling as the cartels are executing these vicious murders a mere stones-throw from U.S. soil.

    HOUSE COMMITTEE ON HOMELAND SECURITY
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    A Line in the Sand: Confronting the Threat at the Southwest Border
    http://www.house.gov/mccaul/pdf/Investigaions-Border-Report.pdf

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    Growing communities

    Fueled by immigration from the Middle East and conversion, especially among Afro-Caribbeans attracted by the promise of a color-blind society described in the Quran, Islam has become the fastest-growing religion in the Latin America and Caribbean region.
    HispanicMuslims.com

     
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    Actually, mj isn't the big money maker for these cartels. Methamphetamine, heroine, and cocaine are. Legalizing pot would have very little impact on them. They would just shift their focus more into the drugs that are unlikely to ever be legalized.
     
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    Is it true what I heard that over 70 people were kidnapped from US soil by the cartels? Mostly young girls to use as a toy? Where is the press on this if true. I heard it on a TV show.
     
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    FYI, (for your information)

    In the year of 2005, As much as 5.8 million kilograms of marijuana entered the United States from Mexico. The Mexican cartels, and the smuggling rings and gangs they leverage, wield substantial control over the routes into the United States and pose substantial challenges to U.S. law enforcement to secure the Southwest border. The cartels operate along the border with military grade weapons, technology and intelligence and their own respective paramilitary enforcers.

    Page 3 & 4. Homeland Security Report
    http://www.house.gov/mccaul/pdf/Investigaions-Border-Report.pdf
     
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    In my opinion, The Drug Cartels are pretty vile animals. I don't know how many they have kiddnapped but just for Phoenix the numbers are staggering. They find dead bodies all the time and the illegal aliens have held up Burger Kings, Wendy's, Mc Donalds with six guns and robbed everyone in the restaurants.

    I have heard news reports of young girls as young as 10 escaping before being taken over the Mexican border. One 10 year old was from Massachusetts, I think, somewhere in the northeast. Fair hair, blue eyes, white skin are valuable commodities in Mexico. The illegal alien abductor opened the trunk so, the girl could get some air and she got loose from the duct tape bindings he had on her. She jumped out at the gas station they were stopped at and ran inside and yelled for help.

    What I would like to know, is how many children are missing in the United States. Also, how many teenagers and women and who's taking them. I heard in Florida alone has 57,000 children missing. I think the Human Smugglers are smuggling some people in and smuggling Americans out of the country. :evil:

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    Official: Phoenix New Kidnapping Capital Of U.S.

    June 25, 2008

    PHOENIX -- Phoenix has become the kidnapping capital of the United States, because of illegal immigration and human smuggling, according to the head of the Phoenix Law Enforcement Association.
    In the past year, there were 359 kidnappings in Phoenix. The kidnappings were connected to illegal immigration and the numbers may represent just the tip of the iceberg.

    Official: Phoenix New Kidnapping Capital Of U.S. - Phoenix News Story - KPHO Phoenix
     
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    Actually, not far from what I was thinking today when watching a report on the Police Chief in Cancun being arrested for complicity with the drug lords. It looks like the drug lords have an ingenious new tact for taking the risk and the cost out of the drug trade, don't take it to the US, take it instead to the place US citizens go to party.

    Imagine the cost/benefit a small third-world island country, let alone a somewhat advanced country like Mexico, would have to go through to prevent the growth of the drug trade in their countries. Under pressure from well-funded drug cartels, they would almost surely be forced to either make it legal or have their society collapse in a cesspool of corruption induced by drug money.

    For the US, we could fight it. We have the capability. Whether it is a profitable expenditure of resources either societally or in any other way is another matter.
     
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    [FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]Traffickers have thoroughly penetrated Mexico's government institutions – even the agencies that are supposed to be dedicated to battling the cartels. In recent weeks, prosecutors charged top officials in the Attorney General's Office with being informers for the drug organizations. They allegedly received payments of $150,000 to $450,000 per month for information regarding surveillance targets and potential raids. Those sums are more than even high-level law enforcement personnel can make in several years – and lower-level personnel can make in several decades.[/FONT]

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    [FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/feb/08/lz1e8carpente22145-threat-our-security-border/?uniontrib[/FONT]
     
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    In my opinion, it's a pretty poor idea to legalize any drugs, when so many drugs have already entered the country and so many of America's youth are drug dependent. That would send the wrong message, that says, it's OK to continue the use of all illegal drugs.

    We have given Mexico billions of dollars in the past to fight drugs. They choose to use the money, to make the Drug Cartels more powerful. Since, drug peddling is a lucrative business and by aiding the drug cartels, the Mexican politicians can and do make a lot of money from it.

    Currently the U.S. is giving Mexico 1.4 billion in 2009. I think we should stop giving them Aid of any kind including Foreign Aid. Since, the Mexican government is as big of a problem as the drug cartels! I think we should deport all illegal aliens in the United States and finish, fortify and guard our border fence. Let Mexico straighten out their own country since, they helped create the mess in the first place. They'll never straighten out their mess, as long as they're being spoon fed, billions of dollars by the U.S.

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    On December 3, 2008, the U.S. government gave Mexico the first part of a $400 million dollars aid package called, "The Merida Initiative".

    U.S. Ambassador Tony Garza formally released $197 million dollars at a signing ceremony in Mexico City. The rest will be disbursed throughout the year of 2009.

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    http://cbs3.com/national/mexico.drug.war.2.879322.html

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    President Bush recently announced the $1.4 billion "Mérida Initiative," a joint U.S.- Mexico program to further the drug war fight.

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    http://www.heritage.org/Research/Crime/wm1705.cfm
     
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