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    Why do you choose to believe things with no evidence leading you to that conclusion? That is the same as thinking things for no apparent reason.

    The article didn't say he was "being" subdued, it says he "was" subdued, and then, was pepper sprayed. And you think the fact that he was a reporter made it okay?
     
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    Do you think the fact that he was a reporter makes him honest?

    Talk about believing things with no evidence, this guy makes an unsubstantiated claim, and you say it's Gospel. The article said he was subdued because he claimed he was subdued. No evidence of this whatsoever.

    So let's see this poor soul take his case to court. Let's seem him try to press charges against the officer that supposedly pepper sprayed him for no reason. Let's see him try to sue the police department over his claim.
     
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    That's not what I asked you. I asked "YOU" why "YOU" believe something, when there is no evidence taking you to that conclusion?

    You have no evidence indicating it was "unsubstantiated", yet you choose to believe it was. And you also choose to dismiss the testimony of an eye witness who was at the seen.

    He's an eye witness, asshole. Where's you evidence indicating he was not telling the truth?

    This is the problem. Pricks like you will jump through hoops to defend cops no matter what they did. Pricks like you are the reason 6 million Jews were killed by the Nazis. Because average Germans kept defending their actions and refusing to believe the horror that was unfolding in front of their eyes. Just like you refusing to believe the horror unfolding in front of yours.
     
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    Somebody sticking up for one of their own kind is not evidence of anything. Any pictures? Any treatment by a hospital or doctor confirming his story? Any video? My evidence is there is no evidence that this ever took place yet alone the way he stated it took place.

    Oh please with this failed liberal strategy asking people to prove a negative. Hey! Michelle Obama is really a guy. Prove that wrong.

    There is no horror.....only in your mind. If an officer does something illegal (with evidence to prove so) I will be the first to call him or her out on it.
     
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    A judge would not even allow your frivolous comments to be entered into the record, because you have nothing to show that would validate your objections.


    Once I provided a link as proof of my claim, the burden of proof shifts to the objector to provide contrary evidence to justify their objection. Failing this, your comments would not be allowed in a court of law.


    And you're a fucking liar!
     
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    Just like a prosecutor would never forward a case to court based on what somebody said with no evidence to support their claim.

    A link doesn't mean anything. A link about what somebody "said" Hey! I have a link that somebody said the world was supposed to end last week. Because I provided a link to what somebody said, did that make it true?
     
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    Then why did you go forward prosecuting your claim without any evidence?


    That depends. Was it in a thread about the US and Russia unloading their ICBM's on each other just a week before?
     
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    I didn't make a claim--you did. I simply said you didn't have a legitimate claim.

    No, it was about a Bible expert claiming the earth was going to get shattered by a meteorite. In any case, just because somebody makes a claim doesn't make it true; especially when they have no evidence to support their claim.

    When the police use pepper spray, it's to subdue a suspect. After the cuffs are on, the police or paramedics clean the spray out of the suspects eyes. It's not something that's easily overlooked in a public setting. Afterwards, the effect of the pepper spray are evident for some time. It makes you look like you spent half of the day crying.

    I seen no photos of anything like that by this reporter. Given the fact that most people have cell phones with video and picture capability, I have some serious doubts that this happened with nobody taking pictures or videos either during or after the supposed event.
     
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    Your objection to my claim, was your claim. You said I didn't have a legitimate claim without any evidence leading you to that conclusion.

    Right. And you had no evidence to support your objection.

    This issue is about someone being pepper sprayed AFTER he was subdued.


    Again, once I provided the link to corroborate my claim, the burden of proof shifts to the objector to show evidence their objection is not frivolous. Which you have failed to do.
     
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    Exactly, you don't. You can't make claims with no other support than "somebody said so" and call it evidence.

    Sure I do. You cont' have any empirical evidence to support your claim, therefore I can make the case that your claim is extremely questionable.

    Yes it is, and you provided no evidence that this happened.

    Providing a link is not evidence, especially when your link is nothing but hearsay.
     

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