Zone1 If you can believe in your real beginning, you will know thyself.

[Woodznutz]

Insightful.
Jesus said much the same when he said he came to serve and not be served.

Christians moistly call Jesus "Lord", even though that ignores the Word of God and what Jesus says he wants.

They do the same hypocritical thing with the messianic concept.

Jesus teaches against it and that is ignored by most Christians, showing how immoral the religion is.

On Jesus dying for Christians, from a moral perspective.

It takes quite an imagination and ego to think a god would actually die for us, after condemning us unjustly in the first place.

Christians have swallowed a lie and don’t care how evil they make Jesus to keep their feel good get out of hell free card.

It is a lie, first and foremost, because, like it or not, having another innocent person suffer or die for the wrongs you have done, --- so that you might escape responsibility for having done them, --- is immoral.

To abdicate your personal responsibility for your actions or use a scapegoat is immoral.

Christians also have to ignore what Jesus, as a Jewish Rabbi, would have taught his people.

Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

Deuteronomy 24:16 (ESV) "Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin.

Psa 49;7 None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him:

There is no way that Christians parents would teach their children to use a scapegoat.

Good morals and Jesus speak against the messianic concept and bids us pick up our crosses and follow him.

The sacrifice of Jesus doesn't save us from the responsibility of our own misdeeds while here on earth. It's the pathway to eternal life, the reprieve from eternal death.

 

[GreatestIam]

"She" and Eve were one. There was no snake.

Ok. Stupid.

 

[GreatestIam]

If God the Father sacrificed himself who would uphold the universe?

Jesus, depending on which Jesus you see in the bible. One is good and the other evil. One said he comes to cure and not kill, while the other says he comes to kill.

Which is your Jesus?

 

[GreatestIam]

Lucyfer screwed up heaven and earth. It's Satan's world. We are just guests.

God made Eve as a mortal representation of Lucyfer.

You got it.

Just a little evil will unravel all the good we've done.

Now you are making shit up. Go away if that is your way.

 

[GreatestIam]

The sacrifice of Jesus doesn't save us from the responsibility of our own misdeeds while here on earth. It's the pathway to eternal life, the reprieve from eternal death.

Jesus will not do the immoral for you immoral Christians who want to use a scapegoat.

 

[Woodznutz]

Ok. Stupid.

Meaning?

 

[Woodznutz]

Jesus, depending on which Jesus you see in the bible. One is good and the other evil. One said he comes to cure and not kill, while the other says he comes to kill.

Which is your Jesus?

The one described in the Bible.

 

[Woodznutz]

Now you are making shit up. Go away if that is your way.

Prove me wrong, using the Bible and not your opinion.

 

[Woodznutz]

Jesus will not do the immoral for you immoral Christians who want to use a scapegoat.

?

 

[Woodznutz]

Ok. Stupid.

The only snake in the garden was the 'serpent within' Eve.

 

[GreatestIam]

The one described in the Bible.

Why do you like such an Armageddon bringing prick?

 

[ding]

If you can believe in your real beginning, you will know thyself.

I took my wife time travelling, mentally that is, the other night, from our present time, down to where she first became aware of herself as alive. Her “I am” moment.

At her present time, I had her admit that she was working towards her best possible end to her life. Just as I and all those who are reading this do. We do this perpetually and constantly.

I then had her follow her timeline back to her beginning, having to admit that her best end was always her prime focus, as it is with all life. Amendment. She agreed to all times except for the “I am”. I don’t know what to make of this lack of logic after following a plain logic trail. This aside.

“I am”, read that as “you and I”, is quite selfish. Universal this in life.

Some thank God. I thank nature and my God, I am, should he/I end in being real.

We are all expressed by our DNA and chemistry. It produces a material dualism that has most of us thinking in a body soul way. 95%.

What is the best end to our bodies, given that our DNA is telling us we are the best of breed?

Read that as King or Queen, or Alpha/Beta in our physical animal reality.

What is the best end for our bodies and souls is that we should try to become leaders of humans?

What is the best end for our souls is to become leader of heaven. Remember that Jesus dethroning his father.

We are all born wanting to be masters of both the physical world, and the other imagined supernatural world, should it be real.

I still have my initial desire to show my best of breed fitness in both the physical and spiritual realms. I still want to be King or God.

Do you?

What are you doing to further your first thinking and goal in life on becoming our next King/God or Queen/Goddess?

I can hardly wait until you Darwinize yourself out of existence. Does that answer your questions?

 

[Woodznutz]

Why do you like such an Armageddon bringing prick?

We can prevent Armageddon anytime we wish. Jesus would be happy.

 

[GreatestIam]

We can prevent Armageddon anytime we wish. Jesus would be happy.

Can't answer my issue I see. I know why.

Keep running away from good moral truth.

 

[Woodznutz]

Can't answer my issue I see. I know why.

Keep running away from good moral truth.

I run toward good moral truth.

 

[GreatestIam]

I run toward good moral truth.

Yet you ignored the truth I put of your immoral thinking.

 

[Woodznutz]

Yet you ignored the truth I put of your immoral thinking.

I didn't detect any truth in your posts.

 

[GreatestIam]

I didn't detect any truth in your posts.

A typical liars trait.

 

[Woodznutz]

A typical liars trait.

You and I differ on what truth is.

 

[GreatestIam]

You and I differ on what truth is.

For sure. You run from it while I embrace it.

I have better conversations. Please go away.