If Obamacare is not repealed, is it Trump's fault?

[miketx]

No. He is ready to sign the bill congress passes....waiting and waiting with his pen....the republicans will not pass a repeal nd replace no matter what he is ready to give them to do it......it is the fault of the House and the Senate.....and they are going to pay.

Trump is a weak leader and Republicans do not know how to govern.

The Great Obama did not sit back with a pen in his hand waiting to sign whatever was put in front of him

He participated in the process, sold it to the people, worked on compromises and came up with a bill people were willing to sign

In his honor, the bill became known as Obamacare

 

[sakinago]

If you want Obamacare repealed, and your rep did not vote to repeal it, you have to vote your rep out of office.

That's how this shit works.

I am still livid that the racist Colorado Democrats did not vote for Daryl Glen for Senate just because he is black.

The ballot is where we make America Great again.

Vote those corrupt Washington lifers out of government.

He is partially to blame, he has pushed non-repeal bills that are Obamacare tweaking bills after campaigning to repeal Obamacare. I'm glad the reps who chose to oppose it did. The reps who pushed for those tweak bills were the same who voted 60 times to actually REPEAL Obamacare, but as soon as trump was in, they no longer wanted too, why? And trump sided with those guys who want to leave it in place and just tweak it a little...so yes some of the blame falls on him, some of the blame falls on the Paul Ryan's of Congress who want to leave Obamacare in place. Those are the people not listening to constituents, and the people pushing for the ACA tweaks are trump sycophants, who believe he can do no wrong... Again why did they vote for a straight up repeal of ACA 60 times before, but don't want to do it now, just want to tweak it? They were pay lip service to their constituents when they knew it wouldn't pass. Now they have the power to pass and they're choosing not too, but still trying to convince us it is a "repeal" when it clearly isn't...what happened to trump wanting to open up the heath insurance markets? He's not a believer in the free market, he is a believer in single payer system, like he stated many times, before and after he was elected.

 

[rightwinger]

If you want Obamacare repealed, and your rep did not vote to repeal it, you have to vote your rep out of office.

That's how this shit works.

I am still livid that the racist Colorado Democrats did not vote for Daryl Glen for Senate just because he is black.

The ballot is where we make America Great again.

Vote those corrupt Washington lifers out of government.

He is partially to blame, he has pushed non-repeal bills that are Obamacare tweaking bills after campaigning to repeal Obamacare. I'm glad the reps who chose to oppose it did. The reps who pushed for those tweak bills were the same who voted 60 times to actually REPEAL Obamacare, but as soon as trump was in, they no longer wanted too, why? And trump sided with those guys who want to leave it in place and just tweak it a little...so yes some of the blame falls on him, some of the blame falls on the Paul Ryan's of Congress who want to leave Obamacare in place. Those are the people not listening to constituents, and the people pushing for the ACA tweaks are trump sycophants, who believe he can do no wrong... Again why did they vote for a straight up repeal of ACA 60 times before, but don't want to do it now, just want to tweak it? They were pay lip service to their constituents when they knew it wouldn't pass. Now they have the power to pass and they're choosing not too, but still trying to convince us it is a "repeal" when it clearly isn't...what happened to trump wanting to open up the heath insurance markets? He's not a believer in the free market, he is a believer in single payer system, like he stated many times, before and after he was elected.

What you posted makes it clear

Republicans do not give a damn about Americans having an effective healthcare system

Their objective is to repeal Obamacare because the Democrats passed it

 

[KGB]

You know how you replace ObamaCare?

This is going to shock the living shit out of you, since it has obviously never occurred to the brilliant Trump or any elected Republican official.

But I'm going to give you the secret. For free.

I know. That's just the kind of guy I am.


So here it is. Ready?

You replace ObamaCare by OFFERING A SUPERIOR PLAN!


Now is that a mind fuck, or what?

"I had it here somehwere, but now I can't seem to find it...."

Yep, it's called Rand Paul's plan...

 

[KGB]

Trump had no ready plan after all his talk, republicans seemingly cannot come up with anything better and you people seem bent on them passing anything as long as it hurts the maximum number of working people. In short it is the failure of American conservatism as a viable political ideology.

Here's a better plan, that won't cost us $1.4 trillion & gets the free market involved, lowers costs dramatically & gets rid of Obamacare. It's as simple as auto or life insurance, neither of which are ever mentioned.

https://www.paul.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/ObamacareReplacementActSections.pdf

 

[BluesLegend]

The GOP RINO's campaigned on repealing Obamacare for 6 years, now we know they LIED and really side with Democrats.

 

[miketx]

If you want Obamacare repealed, and your rep did not vote to repeal it, you have to vote your rep out of office.

That's how this shit works.

I am still livid that the racist Colorado Democrats did not vote for Daryl Glen for Senate just because he is black.

The ballot is where we make America Great again.

Vote those corrupt Washington lifers out of government.

He is partially to blame, he has pushed non-repeal bills that are Obamacare tweaking bills after campaigning to repeal Obamacare. I'm glad the reps who chose to oppose it did. The reps who pushed for those tweak bills were the same who voted 60 times to actually REPEAL Obamacare, but as soon as trump was in, they no longer wanted too, why? And trump sided with those guys who want to leave it in place and just tweak it a little...so yes some of the blame falls on him, some of the blame falls on the Paul Ryan's of Congress who want to leave Obamacare in place. Those are the people not listening to constituents, and the people pushing for the ACA tweaks are trump sycophants, who believe he can do no wrong... Again why did they vote for a straight up repeal of ACA 60 times before, but don't want to do it now, just want to tweak it? They were pay lip service to their constituents when they knew it wouldn't pass. Now they have the power to pass and they're choosing not too, but still trying to convince us it is a "repeal" when it clearly isn't...what happened to trump wanting to open up the heath insurance markets? He's not a believer in the free market, he is a believer in single payer system, like he stated many times, before and after he was elected.

What you posted makes it clear

Republicans do not give a damn about Americans having an effective healthcare system

Their objective is to repeal Obamacare because the Democrats passed it

What is clear to me and not so much to communists like you and that the government has NO BUSINESS pedaling heath care!

 

[sakinago]

If you want Obamacare repealed, and your rep did not vote to repeal it, you have to vote your rep out of office.

That's how this shit works.

I am still livid that the racist Colorado Democrats did not vote for Daryl Glen for Senate just because he is black.

The ballot is where we make America Great again.

Vote those corrupt Washington lifers out of government.

He is partially to blame, he has pushed non-repeal bills that are Obamacare tweaking bills after campaigning to repeal Obamacare. I'm glad the reps who chose to oppose it did. The reps who pushed for those tweak bills were the same who voted 60 times to actually REPEAL Obamacare, but as soon as trump was in, they no longer wanted too, why? And trump sided with those guys who want to leave it in place and just tweak it a little...so yes some of the blame falls on him, some of the blame falls on the Paul Ryan's of Congress who want to leave Obamacare in place. Those are the people not listening to constituents, and the people pushing for the ACA tweaks are trump sycophants, who believe he can do no wrong... Again why did they vote for a straight up repeal of ACA 60 times before, but don't want to do it now, just want to tweak it? They were pay lip service to their constituents when they knew it wouldn't pass. Now they have the power to pass and they're choosing not too, but still trying to convince us it is a "repeal" when it clearly isn't...what happened to trump wanting to open up the heath insurance markets? He's not a believer in the free market, he is a believer in single payer system, like he stated many times, before and after he was elected.

What you posted makes it clear

Republicans do not give a damn about Americans having an effective healthcare system

Their objective is to repeal Obamacare because the Democrats passed it

No, that's you inserting what you want believe about me, and calling it a win. Strawman. It's a bad bill, I obviously still think it's a bad bill when republicans are trying to tweak it. If I I hated it just because the Dems passed it, I woul be all for whatever the republicans wanted to do to tweak it and call it their own jackass.

I'm not a fan of universal healthcare (which is way different from single payer) but I would compromise on it, as long as we totally freed up the healthcare markets...like Switzerland. Their system is, you need to have insurance just like if you were to drive a car in America, but their markets are much much more freer than ours are. So it's not only very high quality, cutting edge medicine, where you are very much in charge of your own care (that's comes very timely and efficiently) however YOU want it, but it's also very affordable. Notice how many car insurance commercials are all around our tv, telling us how much we can save nationally, why is it we don't see that for health insurance? Did you ever wonder that? Healthcare is one of the most regulated industries in America, right up there with energy, air travel, cable/internet. And notice how all those industries are very expensive, and no one in America likes them very much, but we can't say shit because we still need it. Becuase they have us cornered, nobody else can break into those markets offering better prices or services, they are cash cows, and they want to keep it that way.

 

[rightwinger]

If you want Obamacare repealed, and your rep did not vote to repeal it, you have to vote your rep out of office.

That's how this shit works.

I am still livid that the racist Colorado Democrats did not vote for Daryl Glen for Senate just because he is black.

The ballot is where we make America Great again.

Vote those corrupt Washington lifers out of government.

He is partially to blame, he has pushed non-repeal bills that are Obamacare tweaking bills after campaigning to repeal Obamacare. I'm glad the reps who chose to oppose it did. The reps who pushed for those tweak bills were the same who voted 60 times to actually REPEAL Obamacare, but as soon as trump was in, they no longer wanted too, why? And trump sided with those guys who want to leave it in place and just tweak it a little...so yes some of the blame falls on him, some of the blame falls on the Paul Ryan's of Congress who want to leave Obamacare in place. Those are the people not listening to constituents, and the people pushing for the ACA tweaks are trump sycophants, who believe he can do no wrong... Again why did they vote for a straight up repeal of ACA 60 times before, but don't want to do it now, just want to tweak it? They were pay lip service to their constituents when they knew it wouldn't pass. Now they have the power to pass and they're choosing not too, but still trying to convince us it is a "repeal" when it clearly isn't...what happened to trump wanting to open up the heath insurance markets? He's not a believer in the free market, he is a believer in single payer system, like he stated many times, before and after he was elected.

What you posted makes it clear

Republicans do not give a damn about Americans having an effective healthcare system

Their objective is to repeal Obamacare because the Democrats passed it

What is clear to me and not so much to communists like you and that the government has NO BUSINESS pedaling heath care!

Of course they do......It is in the Constitution
Provide for the general welfare
Nothing is in our general welfare more than our health

 

[sakinago]

If you want Obamacare repealed, and your rep did not vote to repeal it, you have to vote your rep out of office.

That's how this shit works.

I am still livid that the racist Colorado Democrats did not vote for Daryl Glen for Senate just because he is black.

The ballot is where we make America Great again.

Vote those corrupt Washington lifers out of government.

He is partially to blame, he has pushed non-repeal bills that are Obamacare tweaking bills after campaigning to repeal Obamacare. I'm glad the reps who chose to oppose it did. The reps who pushed for those tweak bills were the same who voted 60 times to actually REPEAL Obamacare, but as soon as trump was in, they no longer wanted too, why? And trump sided with those guys who want to leave it in place and just tweak it a little...so yes some of the blame falls on him, some of the blame falls on the Paul Ryan's of Congress who want to leave Obamacare in place. Those are the people not listening to constituents, and the people pushing for the ACA tweaks are trump sycophants, who believe he can do no wrong... Again why did they vote for a straight up repeal of ACA 60 times before, but don't want to do it now, just want to tweak it? They were pay lip service to their constituents when they knew it wouldn't pass. Now they have the power to pass and they're choosing not too, but still trying to convince us it is a "repeal" when it clearly isn't...what happened to trump wanting to open up the heath insurance markets? He's not a believer in the free market, he is a believer in single payer system, like he stated many times, before and after he was elected.

What you posted makes it clear

Republicans do not give a damn about Americans having an effective healthcare system

Their objective is to repeal Obamacare because the Democrats passed it

What is clear to me and not so much to communists like you and that the government has NO BUSINESS pedaling heath care!

Of course they do......It is in the Constitution
Provide for the general welfare
Nothing is in our general welfare more than our health

Then why didn't they do it? Why isn't it in the bill of rights? If healthcare was an inherent right to be provided by the government, why wasn't it in the bill of rights. You can't twist phrases like that while completely disregarding everything else that was said and done.

 

[rightwinger]

If you want Obamacare repealed, and your rep did not vote to repeal it, you have to vote your rep out of office.

That's how this shit works.

I am still livid that the racist Colorado Democrats did not vote for Daryl Glen for Senate just because he is black.

The ballot is where we make America Great again.

Vote those corrupt Washington lifers out of government.

He is partially to blame, he has pushed non-repeal bills that are Obamacare tweaking bills after campaigning to repeal Obamacare. I'm glad the reps who chose to oppose it did. The reps who pushed for those tweak bills were the same who voted 60 times to actually REPEAL Obamacare, but as soon as trump was in, they no longer wanted too, why? And trump sided with those guys who want to leave it in place and just tweak it a little...so yes some of the blame falls on him, some of the blame falls on the Paul Ryan's of Congress who want to leave Obamacare in place. Those are the people not listening to constituents, and the people pushing for the ACA tweaks are trump sycophants, who believe he can do no wrong... Again why did they vote for a straight up repeal of ACA 60 times before, but don't want to do it now, just want to tweak it? They were pay lip service to their constituents when they knew it wouldn't pass. Now they have the power to pass and they're choosing not too, but still trying to convince us it is a "repeal" when it clearly isn't...what happened to trump wanting to open up the heath insurance markets? He's not a believer in the free market, he is a believer in single payer system, like he stated many times, before and after he was elected.

What you posted makes it clear

Republicans do not give a damn about Americans having an effective healthcare system

Their objective is to repeal Obamacare because the Democrats passed it

What is clear to me and not so much to communists like you and that the government has NO BUSINESS pedaling heath care!

Of course they do......It is in the Constitution
Provide for the general welfare
Nothing is in our general welfare more than our health

Then why didn't they do it? Why isn't it in the bill of rights? If healthcare was an inherent right to be provided by the government, why wasn't it in the bill of rights. You can't twist phrases like that while completely disregarding everything else that was said and done.

Because they knew enough not to dictate what future generations were allowed to do

 

[sakinago]

He is partially to blame, he has pushed non-repeal bills that are Obamacare tweaking bills after campaigning to repeal Obamacare. I'm glad the reps who chose to oppose it did. The reps who pushed for those tweak bills were the same who voted 60 times to actually REPEAL Obamacare, but as soon as trump was in, they no longer wanted too, why? And trump sided with those guys who want to leave it in place and just tweak it a little...so yes some of the blame falls on him, some of the blame falls on the Paul Ryan's of Congress who want to leave Obamacare in place. Those are the people not listening to constituents, and the people pushing for the ACA tweaks are trump sycophants, who believe he can do no wrong... Again why did they vote for a straight up repeal of ACA 60 times before, but don't want to do it now, just want to tweak it? They were pay lip service to their constituents when they knew it wouldn't pass. Now they have the power to pass and they're choosing not too, but still trying to convince us it is a "repeal" when it clearly isn't...what happened to trump wanting to open up the heath insurance markets? He's not a believer in the free market, he is a believer in single payer system, like he stated many times, before and after he was elected.

What you posted makes it clear

Republicans do not give a damn about Americans having an effective healthcare system

Their objective is to repeal Obamacare because the Democrats passed it

What is clear to me and not so much to communists like you and that the government has NO BUSINESS pedaling heath care!

Of course they do......It is in the Constitution
Provide for the general welfare
Nothing is in our general welfare more than our health

Then why didn't they do it? Why isn't it in the bill of rights? If healthcare was an inherent right to be provided by the government, why wasn't it in the bill of rights. You can't twist phrases like that while completely disregarding everything else that was said and done.

Because they knew enough not to dictate what future generations were allowed to do

No they dictated specifically what the GOVERNMENT was not allowed to do. The governments enumerated powers were made clear, especially the federal governments. And the states and local powers were made clear, and if anything it was left up to states and localities. Not the fed.

 

[danielpalos]

Yes, the Commander in Chief of his party, is at fault for not having a better, "flanking maneuver".

 

[danielpalos]

If you want Obamacare repealed, and your rep did not vote to repeal it, you have to vote your rep out of office.

That's how this shit works.

I am still livid that the racist Colorado Democrats did not vote for Daryl Glen for Senate just because he is black.

The ballot is where we make America Great again.

Vote those corrupt Washington lifers out of government.

He is partially to blame, he has pushed non-repeal bills that are Obamacare tweaking bills after campaigning to repeal Obamacare. I'm glad the reps who chose to oppose it did. The reps who pushed for those tweak bills were the same who voted 60 times to actually REPEAL Obamacare, but as soon as trump was in, they no longer wanted too, why? And trump sided with those guys who want to leave it in place and just tweak it a little...so yes some of the blame falls on him, some of the blame falls on the Paul Ryan's of Congress who want to leave Obamacare in place. Those are the people not listening to constituents, and the people pushing for the ACA tweaks are trump sycophants, who believe he can do no wrong... Again why did they vote for a straight up repeal of ACA 60 times before, but don't want to do it now, just want to tweak it? They were pay lip service to their constituents when they knew it wouldn't pass. Now they have the power to pass and they're choosing not too, but still trying to convince us it is a "repeal" when it clearly isn't...what happened to trump wanting to open up the heath insurance markets? He's not a believer in the free market, he is a believer in single payer system, like he stated many times, before and after he was elected.

What you posted makes it clear

Republicans do not give a damn about Americans having an effective healthcare system

Their objective is to repeal Obamacare because the Democrats passed it

What is clear to me and not so much to communists like you and that the government has NO BUSINESS pedaling heath care!

Of course they do......It is in the Constitution
Provide for the general welfare
Nothing is in our general welfare more than our health

Then why didn't they do it? Why isn't it in the bill of rights? If healthcare was an inherent right to be provided by the government, why wasn't it in the bill of rights. You can't twist phrases like that while completely disregarding everything else that was said and done.

Congress has the authority come up with any right wing fantasy they want, in the federal districts. States have their own and sovereign, health and safety codes.

 

[ColonelAngus]

It's funny that Dems are crying about a totally Democratic bill that is the first step to a single payer system possibly getting overturned.

The ACA is one big fucking lie.

Obama lied his ass off about that bill.

 

[rightwinger]

What you posted makes it clear

Republicans do not give a damn about Americans having an effective healthcare system

Their objective is to repeal Obamacare because the Democrats passed it

What is clear to me and not so much to communists like you and that the government has NO BUSINESS pedaling heath care!

Of course they do......It is in the Constitution
Provide for the general welfare
Nothing is in our general welfare more than our health

Then why didn't they do it? Why isn't it in the bill of rights? If healthcare was an inherent right to be provided by the government, why wasn't it in the bill of rights. You can't twist phrases like that while completely disregarding everything else that was said and done.

Because they knew enough not to dictate what future generations were allowed to do

No they dictated specifically what the GOVERNMENT was not allowed to do. The governments enumerated powers were made clear, especially the federal governments. And the states and local powers were made clear, and if anything it was left up to states and localities. Not the fed.

They were wise enough to let future governments decide what services they would provide

They established a government structure that was best able to meet the needs of We the People

 

[rightwinger]

It's funny that Dems are crying about a totally Democratic bill that is the first step to a single payer system possibly getting overturned.

The ACA is one big fucking lie.

Obama lied his ass off about that bill.

Why don't Republicans provide us lower premiums?

They said they could do better than Obamacare.......why can't they?

 

[miketx]

It's funny that Dems are crying about a totally Democratic bill that is the first step to a single payer system possibly getting overturned.

The ACA is one big fucking lie.

Obama lied his ass off about that bill.

Why don't Republicans provide us lower premiums?

They said they could do better than Obamacare.......why can't they?

Congress and the liberal scum are doing it, R and D.

 

[rightwinger]

It's funny that Dems are crying about a totally Democratic bill that is the first step to a single payer system possibly getting overturned.

The ACA is one big fucking lie.

Obama lied his ass off about that bill.

Why don't Republicans provide us lower premiums?

They said they could do better than Obamacare.......why can't they?

Congress and the liberal scum are doing it, R and D.

Republicans fun Congress

Why have they made so little effort in crafting a meaningful bill? Instead, they throw something together behind closed doors and demand a vote without discussion

 

[NYcarbineer]

My guess is that if this Obamacare repeal fails, Trump will slip back to one of his many positions on Obamacare,

specifically the one where he claims that doing nothing and letting Obama implode is a good idea.