If Giuliani’s Obama Smear Wasn’t Racist, What Was It?

[Vigilante]

The Squaw, and the other RACE HUSTLERS of the CommiecRAT party in here can't get the nuance that the TRUTH isn't racist, it's simply THE TRUTH.... He LOVES everyone BUT Americans...He loves Islam, He Loves invaders from Central and South America, but MOST OF ALL, he LOVES to be able to BUY VOTES to keep his party in power, as the longer they are in power, the more MONEY can be funneled to friends, and other CORRUPT entities that will enhance that power!

Obama is just honest about America - which is a combination of good and shitty. He just doesn't polish the turds like NaziCons do - and I respect him for that. America is just a piece of the planet - not all of it.

Give me a few examples of him being HONEST about America, as a matter of fact, try the WORLD.... I'm willing to look at anything!

 

[MarathonMike]

This was a particularly bizarre comment on how Obama feels about America: “I believe in American exceptionalism, just as I suspect that the Brits believe in British exceptionalism, and the Greeks believe in Greek exceptionalism.” Now WTF is that supposed to mean? Everyone gets a trophy? America isn't exceptional? We are comparable to Greece?

Whenever Obama says something it always sounds like PC weasel words that mean nothing. I don't think he has any real "love" for anything or anyone other than himself and his family.

 

[Lakhota]

The Squaw, and the other RACE HUSTLERS of the CommiecRAT party in here can't get the nuance that the TRUTH isn't racist, it's simply THE TRUTH.... He LOVES everyone BUT Americans...He loves Islam, He Loves invaders from Central and South America, but MOST OF ALL, he LOVES to be able to BUY VOTES to keep his party in power, as the longer they are in power, the more MONEY can be funneled to friends, and other CORRUPT entities that will enhance that power!

Obama is just honest about America - which is a combination of good and shitty. He just doesn't polish the turds like NaziCons do - and I respect him for that. America is just a piece of the planet - not all of it.

Give me a few examples of him being HONEST about America, as a matter of fact, try the WORLD.... I'm willing to look at anything!

He told me you fuck chickens. Are you a chicken fucker?

 

[Vigilante]

The Squaw, and the other RACE HUSTLERS of the CommiecRAT party in here can't get the nuance that the TRUTH isn't racist, it's simply THE TRUTH.... He LOVES everyone BUT Americans...He loves Islam, He Loves invaders from Central and South America, but MOST OF ALL, he LOVES to be able to BUY VOTES to keep his party in power, as the longer they are in power, the more MONEY can be funneled to friends, and other CORRUPT entities that will enhance that power!

Obama is just honest about America - which is a combination of good and shitty. He just doesn't polish the turds like NaziCons do - and I respect him for that. America is just a piece of the planet - not all of it.

Give me a few examples of him being HONEST about America, as a matter of fact, try the WORLD.... I'm willing to look at anything!

He told me you fuck chickens. Are you a chicken fucker?

Spread your feathers, and I'll let you know.... I wouldn't want to stick it anywhere that might be loaded with CHICKEN POX!!!

 

[Clementine]

In term of protecting Obama, the race card is the left's go to defense mechanism.

You're right. Not only that, but they use the term for every single disagreement. The two parties have always disagreed and past presidents have taken just as much heat, if not more, than Obama. Disagree with him on anything and you're racist. Criticize him for anything and you're racist. Fail to support him and you're racist. Does the left think all of Obama's ideas are a 'black thing', therefore, disagreeing with him is racist? I think they are the racist for believing that all of his views are based on race.

It's not black vs white. It's left vs right. Period. And when I say 'period' I mean it, unlike Obama who was lying his ass off.

 

[Lakhota]

It's hilarious to watch NaziCons rationalize how they're not racists.

 

[william the wie]

It's hilarious to watch NaziCons rationalize how they're not racists.

The only racist/fascist posting on this thread is you.

 

[Lakhota]

It's hilarious to watch NaziCons rationalize how they're not racists.

The only racist/fascist posting on this thread is you.

See what I mean? It's hilarious!

 

[Vigilante]

Ever notice that when the left is cornored and has no way of winning, they divert, spin, and all around just be stupid, instead of actually seeing that they were completely wrong....It must be that DELUSIONAL part....

 

[Lakhota]

Ever notice that when the left is cornored and has no way of winning, they divert, spin, and all around just be stupid, instead of actually seeing that they were completely wrong....It must be that DELUSIONAL part....

Ever notice that when the right is cornered and has no way of winning, they divert, spin, and all around just be stupid, instead of actually seeing that they were completely wrong....It must be that DELUSIONAL part....

 

[Vigilante]

Ever notice that when the left is cornored and has no way of winning, they divert, spin, and all around just be stupid, instead of actually seeing that they were completely wrong....It must be that DELUSIONAL part....

Ever notice that when the right is cornered and has no way of winning, they divert, spin, and all around just be stupid, instead of actually seeing that they were completely wrong....It must be that DELUSIONAL part....

Point proven...and I didn't have to ask!

 

[bripat9643]

When Rudy Giuliani accused President Obama of not loving America, was he expressing a form of racism? If not, what was Giuliani saying?

I have argued, controversially to some on the left, that it is important to grapple with ideas on their own terms before merely analyzing their motivations. American conservatism is historically intertwined with white racism in such a way that nearly any conservative idea could plausibly be understood as an appeal to racism, but most of those ideas can be expressed and justified in non-racial terms, and deserve to be taken at face value. The trouble with Giuliani’s comments is that they lack the coherence necessary to be analyzed as an idea. Brush away the bilious rage he has emitted, and nothing solid remains behind.

The original basis for Giuliani’s comments was Obama’s allegedly unusual upbringing. “He wasn’t brought up the way you were brought up and I was brought up, through love of this country,” alleged the former mayor. As Wayne Barrett points out, Giuliani’s father was a mob enforcer, and he and his five brothers all avoided military service during World War II. What about this upbringing in any way suggests it conveyed some deeper patriotism than Obama’s?

Giuliani subsequently clarified his original remarks, though not in the way he intended, by asserting that Obama’s alleged anti-Americanism amounted to “socialism or possibly anti-colonialism.” Here Giuliani is reprising the theories of Dinesh D’Souza, who has described Obama as fundamentally influenced by Kenyan anti-colonialism. Unfortunately for Giuliani, D’Souza’s racism is so transparent not even many conservatives care to defend it any longer.

More: If Giuliani's Smear Wasn't Racist, What Was It? -- NYMag

If his Obama smear wasn't racist, I have no idea what it was. It was bizarre and makes no sense to rational thinking - other than racism. But why? What's his point? Is he thinking of running for president?

It wasn't a smear. It was simple truth, and it wasn't racist.

In the age of Obama, one thing is certain: any criticism of deal leader will always be labelled as racism. That's just the standard libturd modus operandi.

 

[bripat9643]

Opinions are like assholes - everyone has one. However, opinions don't mean much without some facts to support them. Can anyone provide any "credible" proof that President Obama doesn't love America? I couldn't blame him if he didn't. That he isn't a Christian? Who cares? Personally, I'd much rather he be an Atheist. He's taking care of business and keeping us safe.

Liberals are always demanding absolute truth. Then they tell you there are no facts.

 

[william the wie]

Ever notice that when the left is cornored and has no way of winning, they divert, spin, and all around just be stupid, instead of actually seeing that they were completely wrong....It must be that DELUSIONAL part....

Ever notice that when the right is cornered and has no way of winning, they divert, spin, and all around just be stupid, instead of actually seeing that they were completely wrong....It must be that DELUSIONAL part....

Point proven...and I didn't have to ask!

The question now is whether we should lay off and start a collection to get Lakota treatment.

 

[bripat9643]

Rudolph Giulian's Skeleton Closet

Rudolf Giuliani is operatic, in the worst sense of the word -- overdramatic, pompous, self-important and full of emotional extremes. In everything he does, he stirs up trouble, picks useless fights, and flaunts his power in a cruel and petty way. His presidential campaign has been amazingly effective at hiding this side of his personality -- but even a quick look at his life will tell you that the quiet won't last long.

- Used Police & Tax Money to Pamper His Mistress
- Surrounded by Corrupt and Criminal Friends (Felons, Molestors, & Embezzlers)
- Married his cousin (and divorced her)
- Affairs -- Divorced his second wife (in a very ugly way)
- Mob ties (his Dad and uncle)
- Wears Women's Clothing
- Nasty, Mean-Spirited and Small-Minded Cuss
- Bernie Kerik
- Farmersville, NY Scandal
- Harding scandal
- Quotes

Skeleton Closet - Rudy Giuliani, The Dark Side

Sounds like Rudy should be more concerned with the skeletons in his own closet.

Suppose every bit of that is true. How does it prove Obama loves his country?

 

[Judicial review]

Truth.

 

[Lakhota]

Ever notice that when the left is cornored and has no way of winning, they divert, spin, and all around just be stupid, instead of actually seeing that they were completely wrong....It must be that DELUSIONAL part....

Ever notice that when the right is cornered and has no way of winning, they divert, spin, and all around just be stupid, instead of actually seeing that they were completely wrong....It must be that DELUSIONAL part....

Point proven...and I didn't have to ask!

The question now is whether we should lay off and start a collection to get Lakota treatment.

Send all donation to USMB, c/o box BR-549. Thank you.

 

[Lakhota]

Rudolph Giulian's Skeleton Closet

Rudolf Giuliani is operatic, in the worst sense of the word -- overdramatic, pompous, self-important and full of emotional extremes. In everything he does, he stirs up trouble, picks useless fights, and flaunts his power in a cruel and petty way. His presidential campaign has been amazingly effective at hiding this side of his personality -- but even a quick look at his life will tell you that the quiet won't last long.

- Used Police & Tax Money to Pamper His Mistress
- Surrounded by Corrupt and Criminal Friends (Felons, Molestors, & Embezzlers)
- Married his cousin (and divorced her)
- Affairs -- Divorced his second wife (in a very ugly way)
- Mob ties (his Dad and uncle)
- Wears Women's Clothing
- Nasty, Mean-Spirited and Small-Minded Cuss
- Bernie Kerik
- Farmersville, NY Scandal
- Harding scandal
- Quotes

Skeleton Closet - Rudy Giuliani, The Dark Side

Sounds like Rudy should be more concerned with the skeletons in his own closet.

Suppose every bit of that is true. How does it prove Obama loves his country?

Who gives a fuck whether Obama loves his country? He's doing his job.

 

[Vigilante]

Ever notice that when the left is cornored and has no way of winning, they divert, spin, and all around just be stupid, instead of actually seeing that they were completely wrong....It must be that DELUSIONAL part....

Ever notice that when the right is cornered and has no way of winning, they divert, spin, and all around just be stupid, instead of actually seeing that they were completely wrong....It must be that DELUSIONAL part....

Point proven...and I didn't have to ask!

The question now is whether we should lay off and start a collection to get Lakota treatment.

And miss all the hilarity and derangement? NO WAY!

 

[william the wie]

Rudolph Giulian's Skeleton Closet

Rudolf Giuliani is operatic, in the worst sense of the word -- overdramatic, pompous, self-important and full of emotional extremes. In everything he does, he stirs up trouble, picks useless fights, and flaunts his power in a cruel and petty way. His presidential campaign has been amazingly effective at hiding this side of his personality -- but even a quick look at his life will tell you that the quiet won't last long.

- Used Police & Tax Money to Pamper His Mistress
- Surrounded by Corrupt and Criminal Friends (Felons, Molestors, & Embezzlers)
- Married his cousin (and divorced her)
- Affairs -- Divorced his second wife (in a very ugly way)
- Mob ties (his Dad and uncle)
- Wears Women's Clothing
- Nasty, Mean-Spirited and Small-Minded Cuss
- Bernie Kerik
- Farmersville, NY Scandal
- Harding scandal
- Quotes

Skeleton Closet - Rudy Giuliani, The Dark Side

Sounds like Rudy should be more concerned with the skeletons in his own closet.

Suppose every bit of that is true. How does it prove Obama loves his country?

Who gives a fuck whether Obama loves his country? He's doing his job.

No he is not and that is why you need treatment.