If corporate taxes are at their lowest rate, and productivity and profits are at...

[uscitizen]

Where are the jobs?

China, India, etc.

 

[Chris]

A middle class American voting Republican is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders...

 

[NYcarbineer]

Hm, labor is the last thing to recover after a recession. So the labor picture still looks bad.
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So, the lack of job growth, despite the economy being in recovery, is a natural characteristic of the business cycle?

Thus not the fault of Obama...

 

[Full-Auto]

A middle class American voting Republican is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders...

As you continue to plunder SS.... Got it!!

 

[boilermaker55]

...record high levels, where are the jobs?

See link in my signature. See graphs 9 and 10 (or all).

CHART - U.S. Corporate Profits Vs. Employee*Wages - Home - The Daily Bail

And see this:

Chart of the day: US financial profits | Felix Salmon

Oh, and don't say too many regulations.

Do regulations curtail job growth? | Decisions Based on Evidence

Table 2. Reason for layoff: Extended mass layoff events, separations, and initial claimants for unemployment insurance, private nonfarm sector, selected quarters, 2010 and 2011

(The above link is hard data. It can't be disputed).

Why would I hire anyone if I can make a profit with what I have.

Employees are an expense. And they are the easiest expense to control.

When the CEO of Coca-Cola says that China (which let's not forget, is a fuckin' communist dictatorship!) is more business friendly than the US, how can you really argue that our regulatory and tax systems are just fine.

Coca-Cola- nothing screams American business more than that brand, and it's CEO says, "I'd find it easier to business in China than the US!"

But , nope, we should raise taxes and put a few more union cronies on the gravy train. That's the ticket. Yeah.

This is exactly what is being passed around as profit margin, exploit people and any expense. Morals have not place in the business world so the citizenry of the UNITED STATES and those working here should rise together and make those who enjoy the luxury of this country to pay their just dues.
UNIONS for ever.

 

[Truthmatters]

I refuse to settle fro a world where profit is the most important thing

 

[Oldstyle]

I refuse to settle fro a world where profit is the most important thing

Ah, yes...the "evils" of making a profit!

I hate to break this to you TM but when a company doesn't make a profit...generally speaking that company ceases to exist. When that takes place, your "people" no longer have a job and can't put food on the table or keep a roof over their heads.

And before you start telling me the woes of "excessive profits" let me point out that one of the wonderful things about a free market system is that when one person is making huge profits on a good or service then it's almost a given that someone else will enter the market, undercut their price for that good or service and compete for market share thus driving down the cost of that good or service. Isn't captialism wonderful?

 

[Photonic]

...record high levels, where are the jobs?

See link in my signature. See graphs 9 and 10 (or all).

CHART - U.S. Corporate Profits Vs. Employee*Wages - Home - The Daily Bail

And see this:

Chart of the day: US financial profits | Felix Salmon

Oh, and don't say too many regulations.

Do regulations curtail job growth? | Decisions Based on Evidence

Table 2. Reason for layoff: Extended mass layoff events, separations, and initial claimants for unemployment insurance, private nonfarm sector, selected quarters, 2010 and 2011

(The above link is hard data. It can't be disputed).

Profit and jobs do not directly correlate. Demand and supply creates jobs.

 

[Article 15]

Hm, labor is the last thing to recover after a recession. So the labor picture still looks bad.

It's also the last thing to bottom out when a recession hits which is why the economy was still shedding jobs and continued to shed them when Obama took office.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Those that can will create a new market for products and services specifically designed to cater to this new business climate.

It is impossible for a business to "create a market" except by paying workers good wages.

Don't quote me out of context, lizard.

I said the next wave of entrepreneurs will have to find a way to market new and exciting products and services to businesses that have chosen a leaner meaner operating style.

When that is done and done well, these new businesses will need to hire.

 

[Skull Pilot]

what kind of world do you want?

One where the most important thing is Profit?

Or a world where the most important thing is people?

False dichotomy.

 

[Skull Pilot]

I refuse to settle fro a world where profit is the most important thing

I'm sure you can find your utopia right next to that herd of unicorn.

 

[konradv]

The biggest scam is that the rich are "job creators", when the two biggest prerogatives are increasing sales and lowering costs. To lower costs you need to eliminate jobs without lowering sales. Given that primary capitalist principle, we are fooling ourselves in thinking that not taxing the rich will increase jobs. It will only increase bottom lines, but not lead to jobs because no one's making enough to increase sales significantly.

 

[The Rabbi]

Hm, labor is the last thing to recover after a recession. So the labor picture still looks bad.

It's also the last thing to bottom out when a recession hits which is why the economy was still shedding jobs and continued to shed them when Obama took office.

I thought that was Bush's fault?

 

[The Rabbi]

The biggest scam is that the rich are "job creators", when the two biggest prerogatives are increasing sales and lowering costs. To lower costs you need to eliminate jobs without lowering sales. Given that primary capitalist principle, we are fooling ourselves in thinking that not taxing the rich will increase jobs. It will only increase bottom lines, but not lead to jobs because no one's making enough to increase sales significantly.

"Prerogative"? Do you speak English?

 

[The Rabbi]

A middle class American voting Republican is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders...

And he votes for Democrats he is like chicken shit.

 

[whitehall]

Where are the jobs? the concept is simple enough so that even a union educated American can understand it. The Obama administration is at war with capitalism and the liberal media is supporting the OWS terrorist group. Energy prices are high and the administration intends to keep them high. Democrats decided that small businesses that gross more than $250,000 per year are "rich" and should be penalized for their success. The socialist mess called the "health care law" is starting to click in. Corporations refuse to expand or hire because they don't know what the Fuk democrats are trying to do to the Country.

 

[Flopper]

We have, though trade laws, and tax laws, and various laws that give advantages to big capital and always at the expense of the working people, wrecked this economy.

Of course, if you're one of the chosen ones, or one of their loyal servants, this has worked out very well for you.

But the nation itself is much worse off that it needs to be.

The GREED PHILOSOPHY and a representational system of government do not make good bedfellows.

I think trade is a big part of the problem, absolutely. But Democrats are as much free traders and Republicans are, so there's equal blame on that one.

But we have the highest corporate tax rate in the industrialized world.

We spend more on health care than any country in the world, and business bears the brunt of that.

Our Public Education, despite spending the most per capita in the world, produces the worst results. Seriously, getting qualified applicants is often a challenge.

This is pretty much it. Free trade agreements and a tax policy that favors outsourcing has destroyed our working sector. And it doesnt look like it's going to change any time soon, as every single politician from both sides of the isle think free trade agreements are super keen.

Free trade is a wonderful concept. Unfortunately, there are winners and losers. US producers with high wages and overhead relative to other nations are among the losers. In order to be competitive, they have cut jobs and benefits. They have moved out of markets that they have no chance of being competitive such as textiles, apparel manufacture, and consumer electronic products.

The supporters of free trade have sold it to the American people by proclaiming that American ingenuity, technology, and education would always keep the US out front. Well guess what? The Chinese, Indians, Koreans, Mexicans, and Japanese are pretty damn smart. They have access to the same technology and they are willing to work damn hard to get ahead.

Ross Perot was right. The giant sucking sound we hear are US jobs leaving the country.

 

[Seawytch]

Hm, labor is the last thing to recover after a recession. So the labor picture still looks bad.
Amazing no one is blaming Obama. They'd rather blame ROmney, who isnt the president. Yet.

The next phase is the "McJobs recovery" when the Left screams about all American workers get is the crumbs because you see growth in low wage jobs.
Then we get full employment and the left is screaming because pizza delivery guys arent paid the same as the CEO.
The Left is filled with economic boobs and ignoramuses who have forgotten any history. If they ever knew it.

Romney is one of the people that shipped jobs overseas. Romney represents, perfectly, the 1% that values profits over everything else, including this country and its economy.

You can pretend that the income inequality in this country (which is worse than the income inequality in ancient Rome) doesn't matter...but it does and it is mattering more and more every day. I mean, you really want to talk about ignoring history...what has happened when income inequality reaches levels like today, historically speaking?

Love the new avatar. Give up on Perry, the little Dumber Boy, did you?

What is the problem with income inequality, sweet-cheeks? I've asked this several times and no one can give a coherent answer. Based on the quality of your posts you're sure to fail as well.
Romney did not ship a single jon overseas. Just for the record.

The "problem" with our current level of income equality can be found in history books (and in Dragon's answer).

Yes, Willard DID ship jobs overseas.
http://articles.boston.com/2011-12-22/nation/30542281_1_andrea-saul-jon-huntsman-mitt-romney

 

[konradv]

The biggest scam is that the rich are "job creators", when the two biggest prerogatives are increasing sales and lowering costs. To lower costs you need to eliminate jobs without lowering sales. Given that primary capitalist principle, we are fooling ourselves in thinking that not taxing the rich will increase jobs. It will only increase bottom lines, but not lead to jobs because no one's making enough to increase sales significantly.

"Prerogative"? Do you speak English?

Oh boy, a vocabulary flame! Maybe it wasn't the best word, but the post beats yours easily on substance.