If abortions are murder is a dumb question, here is the real question.

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    If abortions are murder, is a dumb thread because it is using polar logic in an argument of hard to define ethics.

    The real question is

    Where do you define the beginning of human life?

    Is it at conception; Is it just before the 2nd trimester, or the 3rd trimester; Or is it at the moment of birth.
     
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    Interesting point, is a dog.duck a hybrid between a dog and a duck, or you just want a dog and a duck seperately?
     
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    When the form assumes its own viability at Delivery -
     
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    Whatever is convenient.
     
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    Its own viability in gas exchange through the its mouth and its lungs? I dont know about that.
     
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    Personally, I define it as when it's able to live outside the womb unaided, which can be as early as 26 weeks gestation.

    The key point here is that this is my definition and that I wouldn't demand a law forcing my definition on someone else.
     
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    Human life begins at conception.
    Personhood begins a birth.
     
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    There are some out there on the left who believe life starts when the child becomes aware of his/her own existence, which is roughly 2 years old. Yup, that's right, I just said that there are some out there on the left who believe a mother should be able to abort her 2 year old child.

    How freaking sick is that?

    I myself believe that life begins at conception. Anything that grows is life, and the moment a child is conceived it starts to grow. Just my opinion and I know others don't think that.
     
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    Using that definition a child as old a 3-4 years could be aborted, after all they can't live unaided. I know that is streaching it, but you know lawyers, given them an inch.........
     
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    Show supporting evidence for your claim.
     
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