"If a kid has not had straight & gay sex by the time they are 16 we have a problem?

[AllieBaba]

or son... What's even creepier to me is ANYONE suggesting that heterosexual children have gay sex. That is a fear tactic that radical fundies use to oppose the gay agenda. Maybe they are right.

I don't care how old he is Madeline.

The thought that kids aren't NORMAL if they aren't engaging in sex, and if they aren't we should coerce them into it, is over the top weirdo.

 

[Stainmaster]

Don't most kids already have sex by 16?

As far as training them?

Half the fun of early sex is learning how to do it well.

Hadn't occured to me since you mentioned it, but i think what really creeped me out about the original post is the thought that we need be training kids. Very creepy.

I agree, I do not promote "training." I see it a lot like learning to drive a car. Once you understand the basic rules, you can go wherever you want because you know the road hazards.

I read about a guy who enjoys the sexual pleasure of a woman's feet. I don't understand it, and maybe I should. No one is getting hurt, and if both parties enjoy it, that is their private business in my opinion.

 

[Stainmaster]

Now this is really funny, me a sheltered person? Wait until you read about the scandals I am associated with in other threads. I even had someone come up to me on the street which is why my avatar is changing from the real me. People who have never posted with me, are making opening shots about my sexuality! It proves the value of this thread, people get stupid when the subject of sex comes up. The old one's just miss it, and are jealous, now that is traumatized for life. "Skid marks" indeed! Isn't that why you dried up old women wear diapers?

You are sheltered. You think movies and porn are accurate depictions of reality. You can't fathom how anyone can differ in opinions with you. You don't know the thousands of years of history there has been and that you aren't doing anything radically new. It's the same old stuff it always has been.

Everyone knows sex is an enjoyable experience. Even those who aren't having it. And yet every great religion and culture has had proscriptions on it. Why? Was it because they were stupid? That's an arrogant assumption.

They kept it sacred or atleast advocated keeping it sacred because they saw the dangers that too many people just ignore.

There is a reason which physical relationships have always been analogized with fire. You should think about it for a while.

You are talking about sex to an adult, and I have no idea what your point is. This is the kind of jibberish young people get from institutions such as church and school, and they just turn it off. Unfortunately, many parents don't "get it" either. I would like to hear your advice to a son who informs you they just had their first erection. What are you going to do, quote the book of Revelations?

 

[AllieBaba]

Stainmaster is promoting child sex.
That's nice. Reminds me of someone...

 

[Samson]

There are plenty of serious deranged posters on USMB to flame. We don't really need to bash the young adults first, do we?

I suppose we should pick on more mature posters.

Thanks for the Octopic!!!

 

[Stainmaster]

Stainmaster is promoting child sex.
That's nice. Reminds me of someone...

I "promote" nothing. I say provide the necessary education to teens so they can deal with their growth into a sex life, then leave them alone. If the information has been properly provided, teens will be ready for adulthood without sexual hang-ups. This is really a no-brainer.

 

[Stainmaster]

or son... What's even creepier to me is ANYONE suggesting that heterosexual children have gay sex. That is a fear tactic that radical fundies use to oppose the gay agenda. Maybe they are right.

I don't care how old he is Madeline.

You have got to be kidding! Do we really have to dig up stats on sexual experimentation by teenagers? When I came up the game was the same for me as it was for my Grandpop, "I'll show you mine, If you show yours."

 

[Avatar4321]

I "promote" nothing. I say provide the necessary education to teens so they can deal with their growth into a sex life, then leave them alone. If the information has been properly provided, teens will be ready for adulthood without sexual hang-ups. This is really a no-brainer.

Telling them "if they don't have sex by 16, they have problems" is "education?"

News to me.

 

[SFC Ollie]

I "promote" nothing. I say provide the necessary education to teens so they can deal with their growth into a sex life, then leave them alone. If the information has been properly provided, teens will be ready for adulthood without sexual hang-ups. This is really a no-brainer.

Telling them "if they don't have sex by 16, they have problems" is "education?"

News to me.

Don't forget , not just sex but straight and gay sex. This kid is a nutcase.

 

[Stainmaster]

I "promote" nothing. I say provide the necessary education to teens so they can deal with their growth into a sex life, then leave them alone. If the information has been properly provided, teens will be ready for adulthood without sexual hang-ups. This is really a no-brainer.

Telling them "if they don't have sex by 16, they have problems" is "education?"

News to me.

Don't forget , not just sex but straight and gay sex. This kid is a nutcase.

You do realize the point here. Threads are written to get people into them. The gay aspect has not been touched upon. It is a subject to be reviewed with a teen. You do realize that gay children can be identified many years before they reach puberty. The point is that all teens should be comfortable with themselves, and know how to deal with any prejudice that might come their way.

Tell me this as you throw around the word "nutcase" how many books have you read in the last year on this subject? How many times have you discussed these issues openly with experts and those you know. Simply stated you sound like another guy that sexuality has passed by, and you are miserable. If you can't be happy, no one else can be either.

 

[AllieBaba]

Identified many years before they reach..poverty?

Fucking a. Please don't do drugs. Look what it does to you.

 

[AllieBaba]

Telling them "if they don't have sex by 16, they have problems" is "education?"

News to me.

Don't forget , not just sex but straight and gay sex. This kid is a nutcase.

You do realize the point here. Threads are written to get people into them. The gay aspect has not been touched upon. It is a subject to be reviewed with a teen. You do realize that gay children can be identified many years before they reach poverty. The point is that all teens should be comfortable with themselves, and know how to deal with any prejudice that might come their way.

Tell me this as you throw around the word "nutcase" how many books have you read in the last year on this subject? How many times have you discussed these issues openly with experts and those you know. Simply stated you sound like another guy that sexuality has passed by, and you are miserable. If you can't be happy, no one else can be either.

How will referring them to sex therapists, who are essentially high paid prostitutes, teach them to deal with prejudice?

Is it just me or is this the dumbest thread ever?

 

[Baruch Menachem]

No, that would be the "Is Dante Gay" thread

 

[Stainmaster]

Don't forget , not just sex but straight and gay sex. This kid is a nutcase.

You do realize the point here. Threads are written to get people into them. The gay aspect has not been touched upon. It is a subject to be reviewed with a teen. You do realize that gay children can be identified many years before they reach poverty. The point is that all teens should be comfortable with themselves, and know how to deal with any prejudice that might come their way.

Tell me this as you throw around the word "nutcase" how many books have you read in the last year on this subject? How many times have you discussed these issues openly with experts and those you know. Simply stated you sound like another guy that sexuality has passed by, and you are miserable. If you can't be happy, no one else can be either.

How will referring them to sex therapists, who are essentially high paid prostitutes, teach them to deal with prejudice?

Is it just me or is this the dumbest thread ever?

Typo, "puberty," not "poverty." Apparently, you did not read the previous posts to this thread. Please do so before making a declarative statement. Thank you.

 

[Madeline]

If you do in fact subscribe to Playboy, try skipping the centerfold, and read the Playboy advisor. (I feel a little too good about sharing this next tidbit).

The Playboy Advisor was originally written by sex guru, Hugh Hefner, and was filled with advice about changing sexuality in America. Today, Hef's daughter is the publisher, and what you are getting is trickling out of the NOW, the National Organization for Women. Yes, most editorial writers (regardless of gender), for Playboy are feminists. What is my source you ask? Read the credits on the first page of Playboy. So, now we all know, Ollie, you don't read Playboy, you look at the pictures!

See what happens when you peddle pornography? Your descendants end up as feminazis.

Even if we accept that hef's daughter is Femnazi that's still a sample size of one. Hardly conclusive.

Father Time, it is cruel and insensitive to ridicule Feminism and its adherents by calling them "Feminazis". Please stop doing it.

You can call us *****, okay? But we have not agitated to genocide anyone, so no more nazi references please.

 

[Madeline]

With or without octopii?

Samson, it is extreme. It is poorly-thought out. It is a bit goofy. But Stainmaster really does seem to me like a very young adult. I don't think he should be lumped in with 60 year old Catholic priests.

Any anwyay, sex therapy and abuse are like night and day, and no sex therapist would EVER consent to work with a minor. I had assumed he took an very extreme position to get us old foggies to discuss better sex ed in high schools and middle schools...and if so, I can get behind that.

There are plenty of serious deranged posters on USMB to flame. We don't really need to bash the young adults first, do we?

You know he's a kid how, exactly?

Besides, if he were 16 and having sex with a 14 year old, he'd still be a sex offender.

It's WRONG to promote sex among children.
It's WRONG to propose adults "teaching" them about sex before they reach the age of 16.
It's WRONG to perpetuate the myth that they should have straight AND gay sex by 16.

It's perverted no matter what age you are, and if he's just young and stupid, then someone needs to tell him it's wrong and illegal besides. Pete Townsend got busted for using his computer to encourage young kids to have sex.

I don't KNOW Stainmaster is under 21...but he writes as such a man IMO. I'd be quite surprised if he turned out to really be a 70 year old lady, wouldn't you? I'm sure there are folks on USMB lying their asses off about their ages and genders, but it is much harder to mimic someone else's speech patterns than most folks assume. Liars generally stand out to me like a flashing neon sign, and I bet they do to most of us whether we're consciously aware of this or not.

Of course Stainmaster and his POV are wrong. Not just wrong, but inflammatory, stubborn and even offensive...but his original premise has merit. Kidlets should get quality sex ed in middle school and high school. Had that been happening in his middle school, he could not have been emotionally abused as he was by his folks. They could not have preyed on his ignorance if he had none.

It is the JOB of young adults to annoy and disturb and inflame and offend older people. My parents did it, I did it, I'm sure you did it, and now Stainmaster is doing it. Given time, young adults who are babies today will in turn annoy and disturb HIM.

That's a good thing...young people, with their ideals and energy and rebelliousness push us "old foggies" out of complacency and ruts in our thinking.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX07j9SDFcc"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX07j9SDFcc[/ame]

 

[Stainmaster]

Samson, it is extreme. It is poorly-thought out. It is a bit goofy. But Stainmaster really does seem to me like a very young adult. I don't think he should be lumped in with 60 year old Catholic priests.

Any anwyay, sex therapy and abuse are like night and day, and no sex therapist would EVER consent to work with a minor. I had assumed he took an very extreme position to get us old foggies to discuss better sex ed in high schools and middle schools...and if so, I can get behind that.

There are plenty of serious deranged posters on USMB to flame. We don't really need to bash the young adults first, do we?

You know he's a kid how, exactly?

Besides, if he were 16 and having sex with a 14 year old, he'd still be a sex offender.

It's WRONG to promote sex among children.
It's WRONG to propose adults "teaching" them about sex before they reach the age of 16.
It's WRONG to perpetuate the myth that they should have straight AND gay sex by 16.

It's perverted no matter what age you are, and if he's just young and stupid, then someone needs to tell him it's wrong and illegal besides. Pete Townsend got busted for using his computer to encourage young kids to have sex.

I don't KNOW Stainmaster is under 21...but he writes as such a man IMO. I'd be quite surprised if he turned out to really be a 70 year old lady, wouldn't you? I'm sure there are folks on USMB lying their asses off about their ages and genders, but it is much harder to mimic someone else's speech patterns than most folks assume. Liars generally stand out to me like a flashing neon sign, and I bet they do to most of us whether we're consciously aware of this or not.

Of course Stainmaster and his POV are wrong. Not just wrong, but inflammatory, stubborn and even offensive...but his original premise has merit. Kidlets should get quality sex ed in middle school and high school. Had that been happening in his middle school, he could not have been emotionally abused as he was by his folks. They could not have preyed on his ignorance if he had none.

It is the JOB of young adults to annoy and disturb and inflame and offend older people. My parents did it, I did it, I'm sure you did it, and now Stainmaster is doing it. Given time, young adults who are babies today will in turn annoy and disturb HIM.

That's a good thing...young people, with their ideals and energy and rebelliousness push us "old foggies" out of complacency and ruts in our thinking.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX07j9SDFcc]YouTube - Lion King - Circle of Life[/ame]

Hey, I'm no child. Young people and sex have pretty much stayed the same over the years. It is the seniors that concern me. They are the ones who messed up this country, and now they try to tell young people what to do. Remember active young adults played a significant role in the last election. We plan to stay active, and take a pass on all the senior citizen bravado.

Is it any wonder no one comes to visit?
Lead, follow, but get out of the way.​

 

[Madeline]

You know he's a kid how, exactly?

Besides, if he were 16 and having sex with a 14 year old, he'd still be a sex offender.

It's WRONG to promote sex among children.
It's WRONG to propose adults "teaching" them about sex before they reach the age of 16.
It's WRONG to perpetuate the myth that they should have straight AND gay sex by 16.

It's perverted no matter what age you are, and if he's just young and stupid, then someone needs to tell him it's wrong and illegal besides. Pete Townsend got busted for using his computer to encourage young kids to have sex.

I don't KNOW Stainmaster is under 21...but he writes as such a man IMO. I'd be quite surprised if he turned out to really be a 70 year old lady, wouldn't you? I'm sure there are folks on USMB lying their asses off about their ages and genders, but it is much harder to mimic someone else's speech patterns than most folks assume. Liars generally stand out to me like a flashing neon sign, and I bet they do to most of us whether we're consciously aware of this or not.

Of course Stainmaster and his POV are wrong. Not just wrong, but inflammatory, stubborn and even offensive...but his original premise has merit. Kidlets should get quality sex ed in middle school and high school. Had that been happening in his middle school, he could not have been emotionally abused as he was by his folks. They could not have preyed on his ignorance if he had none.

It is the JOB of young adults to annoy and disturb and inflame and offend older people. My parents did it, I did it, I'm sure you did it, and now Stainmaster is doing it. Given time, young adults who are babies today will in turn annoy and disturb HIM.

That's a good thing...young people, with their ideals and energy and rebelliousness push us "old foggies" out of complacency and ruts in our thinking.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX07j9SDFcc]YouTube - Lion King - Circle of Life[/ame]

Hey, I'm no child. I am 28 with four years of college, and an honorary MBA. I make over $40,000 a year. Young people and sex have pretty much stayed the same over the years. It is the seniors that concern me. They are the ones who messed up this country, and now they try to tell young people what to do. Remember active young adults played a significant role in the last election. We plan to stay active, and take a pass on all the senior citizen bravado.

Is it any wonder no one comes to visit?
Lead, follow, but get out of the way.​

Thankies for the factoids Stainmaster. WTF is an "honorary MBA"? 28 is a tad late to sound or think like an 18 year old, but hey, my 34 year old nephew sounds and acts like he's 12, so it's all good.

Don't be hating on all us Gray Panthers, Stainmaster. Your only two choices are age or death.

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It is not the energy and idealism of the young that wins the day. Nor is it the wisdom and life experience of the old. It is the synergy of those two together, Stainmaster. We each need the other.

 

[Stainmaster]

I don't KNOW Stainmaster is under 21...but he writes as such a man IMO. I'd be quite surprised if he turned out to really be a 70 year old lady, wouldn't you? I'm sure there are folks on USMB lying their asses off about their ages and genders, but it is much harder to mimic someone else's speech patterns than most folks assume. Liars generally stand out to me like a flashing neon sign, and I bet they do to most of us whether we're consciously aware of this or not.

Of course Stainmaster and his POV are wrong. Not just wrong, but inflammatory, stubborn and even offensive...but his original premise has merit. Kidlets should get quality sex ed in middle school and high school. Had that been happening in his middle school, he could not have been emotionally abused as he was by his folks. They could not have preyed on his ignorance if he had none.

It is the JOB of young adults to annoy and disturb and inflame and offend older people. My parents did it, I did it, I'm sure you did it, and now Stainmaster is doing it. Given time, young adults who are babies today will in turn annoy and disturb HIM.

That's a good thing...young people, with their ideals and energy and rebelliousness push us "old foggies" out of complacency and ruts in our thinking.

YouTube - Lion King - Circle of Life

Hey, I'm no child. I am 28 with four years of college, and an honorary MBA. I make over $40,000 a year. Young people and sex have pretty much stayed the same over the years. It is the seniors that concern me. They are the ones who messed up this country, and now they try to tell young people what to do. Remember active young adults played a significant role in the last election. We plan to stay active, and take a pass on all the senior citizen bravado.

Is it any wonder no one comes to visit?
Lead, follow, but get out of the way.​

Thankies for the factoids Stainmaster. WTF is an "honorary MBA"? 28 is a tad late to sound or think like an 18 year old, but hey, my 34 year old nephew sounds and acts like he's 12, so it's all good.

Don't be hating on all us Gray Panthers, Stainmaster. Your only two choices are age or death.

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It is not the energy and idealism of the young that wins the day. Nor is it the wisdom and life experience of the old. It is the synergy of those two together, Stainmaster. We each need the other.

Don't talk down to me. People earn my respect regardless of their age. Bottom line, sex and love are about all that is left of value in this world after the mess left by previous generations. Working in these threads has taught me to push aside the advice of people who are useless. The message is live for now. The older generations have insulted those of us under 30. I hope when I am 60 my attitude is still as it is.

 

[ekrem]

(...)
Government does that all the time without taking anyone to a brothel. Government screws us all on it's own.

As for brothels themselves, i agree. There is nothing healthy about it. It's not healthy to be having relation outside of marriage. It's moral schizophrenia to pretend you are one with someone by joining in a physical sense and yet not on any other levels. It will destroy those who engage in it and their descendants for generations.

I had the first sex with a prostitute. Speedy Gonzalez with no emotions. Total fail, I marched into the room and said: "It is my first time" in expectation of being someone special in-front of a woman who does this all for money. The motivation was to be prepared for my real girlfriend I had. The girlfriend-sex happened then some days later. Still, I was not prepared and it was not nice. Pre-occupied with emotionless experience from first time. The next sex then just happened months later, enough time to build-up passion to be convinced again to get intimate. This time it was the "girlfriend"-experience I was looking for.

Emotionless sex, just for the sake of sex, might become a course of action in one's philosophy if experienced and a little bit older. Somehow every man is a "masculine whore", the one more the other less. Increasingly I also do feel a need to get married and commit to THE ONE.
There is no reason to run through forums and pitty people for their "passed climax" in terms of physical condition. Posting pictures of old men with fat stomach on beach...
That is so lame, yes, You are the Greatest of all times.
Like it was said in this thread two times: Sex stays sex, and I absolutley believe that guy telling of his experience from the so-called Sex Revolution times and his senteces that Stainmaster will never break his record.

The introducing post is not even worth discussing seriously.