I am going to see if anyone here, believes in the science.

[Mikeoxenormous]

Logically ice melts at 32 degrees right?

32°F (0°C)
Ice melts at temperatures above 32°F (0°C), which is its melting point1. During the melting process, the temperature remains constant at 0 °C2. Any energy added breaks the hydrogen bonds between ice (water) molecules2. Ice is the solid form that liquid water takes when it is cooled below 0 degrees Celsius (32 degrees Fahrenheit)3. Ice does not melt at 100 degrees Celsius (212 degrees Fahrenheit)4.
Learn more:

Now from the Globull Warming "Ex-Spurts" they say the Polar Ice Caps are melting, which means that the temperature up there is above 32 degrees.

This is the Ex-Spurts statement, not mine.
Polar ice caps are melting due to the ongoing warming of Earth’s surface and ocean1. The Arctic is warming twice as fast as anywhere on earth, and the sea ice there is declining by more than 10% every 10 years2. We lose Arctic sea ice at a rate of almost 13% per decade, and over the past 30 years, the oldest and thickest ice in the Arctic has declined by a stunning 95%3. As this ice melts, darker patches of ocean start to emerge, eliminating the effect that previously cooled the poles, creating warmer air temperatures and in turn disrupting normal patterns of ocean circulation2.

So with all that warming air temperatures disrupting ocean circulations where does the below 32 degrees temperature come from? Venus? Mars? Maybe Pluto?

Todays event happening now.
MSN

SEOUL, Dec. 20 (Yonhap) -- The nation is bracing for an arctic cold wave later this week, with morning lows plummeting to between minus 19 C and minus 5 C across the country, the state weather agency said Wednesday.

The season's strongest cold wave is forecast to peak on Thursday and Friday, when the minimum temperatures will drop to minus 15 C in Seoul, minus 18 C in the northeastern city of Chuncheon, minus 13 C in the central city of Daejeon and minus 6 C in the southern city of Busan, according to the Korea Meteorological Administration (KMA).

We share the same planet as everyone else, at least those that arent the Globull Elites who dont want to share with anyone. Why do they lie to US all the time? Is it that the uneducated Joe Biden voters will take it hook, line and sinker? You can bet on it, and those elites are stealing the wealth of America.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/17/business/rich-americans-climate-footprint-emissions/index.html

The report also identified “super-emitters.” They are almost exclusively among the wealthiest top 0.1% of Americans, concentrated in industries such as finance, insurance and mining, and produce around 3,000 tons of carbon pollution a year. To put that in perspective, it’s estimated people should limit their carbon footprint to around 2.3 tons a year to tackle climate change.

“Fifteen days of income for a top 0.1% household generates as much carbon pollution as a lifetime of income for a household in the bottom 10%,” Starr said.

 

[candycorn]

"As greenhouse gases trap more energy from the sun, the oceans are absorbing more heat, resulting in an increase in sea surface temperatures and rising sea level. Changes in ocean temperatures and currents brought about by climate change will lead to alterations in climate patterns around the world. "

https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicators/oceans#:~:text=As%20greenhouse%20gases%20trap%20more,climate%20patterns%20around%20the%20world.

 

[scruffy]

Temperature in an open system is a complicated subject.

Let's do the ice first. Water only freezes at 32 degrees, at 0 pressure. At high pressure, the melting point decreases, to as low as 15 degrees. Ocean pressure, increases about 1 atm for every 30 feet in depth.

Ice and Water - Melting Points vs. Pressure

Online calculator, figures and tables with melting points of ice to water at pressures ranging from 0 to 29000 psia (0 to 2000 bara). Temperature given as °C, °F, K and °R.

www.engineeringtoolbox.com

https://www.pmel.noaa.gov/eoi/nemo1998/education/pressure.html#:~:text=The%20pressure%20increases%20about%20one,10%20meters%20of%20water%20depth.

 

[rampart]

Logically ice melts at 32 degrees right?

32°F (0°C)
Ice melts at temperatures above 32°F (0°C), which is its melting point1. During the melting process, the temperature remains constant at 0 °C2. Any energy added breaks the hydrogen bonds between ice (water) molecules2. Ice is the solid form that liquid water takes when it is cooled below 0 degrees Celsius (32 degrees Fahrenheit)3. Ice does not melt at 100 degrees Celsius (212 degrees Fahrenheit)4.
Learn more:

Now from the Globull Warming "Ex-Spurts" they say the Polar Ice Caps are melting, which means that the temperature up there is above 32 degrees.

This is the Ex-Spurts statement, not mine.
Polar ice caps are melting due to the ongoing warming of Earth’s surface and ocean1. The Arctic is warming twice as fast as anywhere on earth, and the sea ice there is declining by more than 10% every 10 years2. We lose Arctic sea ice at a rate of almost 13% per decade, and over the past 30 years, the oldest and thickest ice in the Arctic has declined by a stunning 95%3. As this ice melts, darker patches of ocean start to emerge, eliminating the effect that previously cooled the poles, creating warmer air temperatures and in turn disrupting normal patterns of ocean circulation2.

So with all that warming air temperatures disrupting ocean circulations where does the below 32 degrees temperature come from? Venus? Mars? Maybe Pluto?

Todays event happening now.
MSN We share the same planet as everyone else, at least those that arent the Globull Elites who dont want to share with anyone. Why do they lie to US all the time? Is it that the uneducated Joe Biden voters will take it hook, line and sinker? You can bet on it, and those elites are stealing the wealth of America.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/17/business/rich-americans-climate-footprint-emissions/index.html





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there is a good test to determine of ice is liquid/



water coexists as liquid and solid at 0C. well, i should not have to tell you. the experiment costs a few ice cubes and an ice tea glass.

the glaciers and ice caps of earth (melted by energy input, not temperature.- (the temperature is a by product. ) are mitigating the rise of temperatures. their thaw continues and will accelerate as they melt.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

there is a good test to determine of ice is liquid/



water coexists as liquid and solid at 0C. well, i should not have to tell you. the experiment costs a few ice cubes and an ice tea glass.

the glaciers and ice caps of earth (melted by energy input, not temperature.- (the temperature is a by product. ) are mitigating the rise of temperatures. their thaw continues and will accelerate as they melt.

Do you not see what i am basis this science on? At 32 degrees the ice/water is at a value to either become solid or liquid form. But where is the cold air that is well below freezing coming from that is now inundating the Far East? Either the polar ice caps are melting (above 32 degrees) or it is just a big lie, so people like John F'ing Kerry (who won 3 purple hearts) can have his CO2 but the rest of US can do without....

 

[JohnDB]

Logically ice melts at 32 degrees right?

32°F (0°C)
Ice melts at temperatures above 32°F (0°C), which is its melting point1. During the melting process, the temperature remains constant at 0 °C2. Any energy added breaks the hydrogen bonds between ice (water) molecules2. Ice is the solid form that liquid water takes when it is cooled below 0 degrees Celsius (32 degrees Fahrenheit)3. Ice does not melt at 100 degrees Celsius (212 degrees Fahrenheit)4.
Learn more:

Now from the Globull Warming "Ex-Spurts" they say the Polar Ice Caps are melting, which means that the temperature up there is above 32 degrees.

This is the Ex-Spurts statement, not mine.
Polar ice caps are melting due to the ongoing warming of Earth’s surface and ocean1. The Arctic is warming twice as fast as anywhere on earth, and the sea ice there is declining by more than 10% every 10 years2. We lose Arctic sea ice at a rate of almost 13% per decade, and over the past 30 years, the oldest and thickest ice in the Arctic has declined by a stunning 95%3. As this ice melts, darker patches of ocean start to emerge, eliminating the effect that previously cooled the poles, creating warmer air temperatures and in turn disrupting normal patterns of ocean circulation2.

So with all that warming air temperatures disrupting ocean circulations where does the below 32 degrees temperature come from? Venus? Mars? Maybe Pluto?

Todays event happening now.
MSN We share the same planet as everyone else, at least those that arent the Globull Elites who dont want to share with anyone. Why do they lie to US all the time? Is it that the uneducated Joe Biden voters will take it hook, line and sinker? You can bet on it, and those elites are stealing the wealth of America.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/17/business/rich-americans-climate-footprint-emissions/index.html





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Ice melts due to ocean salinity as well as temperatures.

Salt water does freeze but at much colder temperatures than our planet has.

And because the temperature data has been deliberately corrupted....nobody really knows what is happening.

The weather model is extremely complex....more complex than high tides.

Man might one day figure it out but with all the fussing it is not likely.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Ice melts due to ocean salinity as well as temperatures.

Salt water does freeze but at much colder temperatures than our planet has.

And because the temperature data has been deliberately corrupted....nobody really knows what is happening.

The weather model is extremely complex....more complex than high tides.

Man might one day figure it out but with all the fussing it is not likely.

Hopefully the uneducated will walk in front of a EV semi-truck and be removed from Society so the rest of US intelligent people can move on to a greener more healthier planet without all the toxic heavy metals that are needed in the green new deal. I remember back in the 1990s when Al Jazeera Gore was harping on Global Warming, yet in his state of Tennessee, there was major strip mining for coal. Talk about Hypocrisy at the extreme.
Do as i say, not as i do....The Marxists/Demofascist Motto.

 

[rampart]

Do you not see what i am basis this science on? At 32 degrees the ice/water is at a value to either become solid or liquid form. But where is the cold air that is well below freezing coming from that is now inundating the Far East? Either the polar ice caps are melting (above 32 degrees) or it is just a big lie, so people like John F'ing Kerry (who won 3 purple hearts) can have his CO2 but the rest of US can do without....

the cold air "comes from" downwelling from the upper atmosphere that is what happens over ice. very much a seasonal phenomenon. the currents of the upper atmosphere, such as the jet stream are fostered by coriolis forces, just as the ocen cirrents such as the gulf stream.

yes, the ice caps are melting. that is the water running off that greenland glacier thats been on pbs.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

the cold air "comes from" downwelling from the upper atmosphere that is what happens over ice. very much a seasonal phenomenon. the currents of the upper atmosphere, such as the jet stream are fostered by coriolis forces, just as the ocen cirrents such as the gulf stream.

yes, the ice caps are melting. that is the water running off that greenland glacier thats been on pbs.

Oh you mean this glacier right?

Major Greenland Glacier Is Growing

Jakobshavn Glacier has grown for the third year in a row, and scientists attribute the change to cool ocean waters.

earthobservatory.nasa.gov

 

[JohnDB]

Hopefully the uneducated will walk in front of a EV semi-truck and be removed from Society so the rest of US intelligent people can move on to a greener more healthier planet without all the toxic heavy metals that are needed in the green new deal. I remember back in the 1990s when Al Jazeera Gore was harping on Global Warming, yet in his state of Tennessee, there was major strip mining for coal. Talk about Hypocrisy at the extreme.
Do as i say, not as i do....The Marxists/Demofascist Motto.
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That's not the worst of AL Gore....
He had his own property clear cut for a papermill. Meaning the land was wooded but then was cut bald. The insects absolutely devastated the neighborhood afterwards when they lost their habitat. Then there's all the test drilling that happened which polluted the water table for many people...ponds drained that used to water livestock.
He was anything but environmentally friendly.
Then Tipper Gore almost had him arrested for sexual assault...it was touch and go for a while. But eventually she relented.

 

[ReinyDays]

Logically ice melts at 32 degrees right?

Not really ... all the chemical analogs melt closer to -100ºC ... logically, water should boil above -75ºC ... obviously it doesn't ...

Just one more exotic property of a rather mundane substance ...