How will we judge Obama?

the absolute worst human being to walk this earth. a liar, no better than a street thug. divider, creep and loser we had to deal with for eight OF THE MOST miserable years of my political life. and I've been voting since Carter

I don't know how he can stand himself
 
14 million jobs
Mostly within the private sector
10% to 5% unemployment =huge improvement!
Millions of more people on health insurance.

No he didn't go far enough economically, but I'd judge him as decent. Republicans have a long history of causing recessions and depression...They shouldn't even be considered. A utter joke.










The one percent got even wealthier.

The middle class lost net worth for the first time in decades.

US net GDP dropped.

Fewer American working than was seen since the 1970's due to loss of jobs.

Middle class folks being forced to work two or three jobs because obamacare forced employers to cut hours to avoid the law.

Yeah matthew, he's one of the worst POTUS's this country has ever seen. But you would have to take your blinders off to acknowledge the truth of it.
The one percent got even wealthier.
Been happening for decades, and do you honestly think he could've done anything with congress anyway? Why is the one percent getting more wealth a bad thing anyways?
The middle class lost net worth for the first time in decades.
Yeah, that's definitely Obama's fault, not the recession or the stagnant wages that have been here for decades.
Fewer American working than was seen since the 1970's due to loss of jobs.
False. Retirement/more people going to college.
Middle class folks being forced to work two or three jobs because obamacare forced employers to cut hours to avoid the law.
A silly claim. I'm sure it happens to some folks, but come on.

You are truly stupid.

CEO of Carl's Jr. says 'Obamacare has caused millions of full-time jobs to become part-time'

ObamaCare Employer Mandate: A List Of Cuts To Work Hours, Jobs

Companies Are Cutting Part-Time Workers' Hours. Blame Obamacare?
Politifact rated your first link "half true."
The bottom line, we found, is that there isn’t enough data to state a number with any specificity.
I never said it didn't affect no one.
Your forbes link:
To be clear, Casselman isn’t arguing that companies are moving full-time workers into part-time jobs.

The data just doesn’t support that: The U.S. economy has been gaining hundreds of thousands of full-time jobs every month while part-time job growth has been flat, as I wrote about last year. Nearly 3 million jobs were created in 2014 — the best one-year jump since 1999 — and unemployment is down to 5.6%.
You are truly stupid. :)
 
the absolute worst human being to walk this earth. a liar, no better than a street thug. divider, creep and loser we had to deal with for eight OF THE MOST miserable years of my political life. and I've been voting since Carter

I don't know how he can stand himself
Jeez.. it's like he's the anti christ or something.
 
the absolute worst human being to walk this earth. a liar, no better than a street thug. divider, creep and loser we had to deal with for eight OF THE MOST miserable years of my political life. and I've been voting since Carter

I don't know how he can stand himself
Jeez.. it's like he's the anti christ or something.

it's not my fault you don't recognize it
 
the absolute worst human being to walk this earth. a liar, no better than a street thug. divider, creep and loser we had to deal with for eight OF THE MOST miserable years of my political life. and I've been voting since Carter

I don't know how he can stand himself
Jeez.. it's like he's the anti christ or something.
Many wondered about that!
 
the absolute worst human being to walk this earth. a liar, no better than a street thug. divider, creep and loser we had to deal with for eight OF THE MOST miserable years of my political life. and I've been voting since Carter

I don't know how he can stand himself
Jeez.. it's like he's the anti christ or something.

it's not my fault you don't recognize it
Wait, you believe he's the anti christ?
 
How will we judge Obama?

A commentator Erin Aubry Kaplan, for the Chicago Tribune wrote an article titled "How will we judge Obama?" Certainly, she has the facts identified and neatly lined up, but her conclusions are so small scale and lack vision.

For instance:

That hoped-for change was not just political but also spiritual — it was supposed to finally forge One America across racial lines. But the racial lines have held. The clearest evidence of this is that from the beginning, Obama has always meant something different to black people than he does to everyone else.

What the hell is she talking about. I don't know anyone who thought right wing racist southern confederate Republicans would be anything else but who they have always been. Their views on blacks is very similar to their views on gays. They may hold "kill the gays" rallies, but they are not nearly bold enough to do that to blacks, at least not any more.

Simply negotiating the space of the presidency for two terms, Blow wrote, will bolster blacks’ self-image for generations to come. But that is only part of the picture, and not the most important part. (The title of Blow’s column, “The Other Obama Legacy,” acknowledges as much.) Chiefly white opponents of the first black president view him as immeasurable in another way: an utter failure, an abomination or something worse.

Black's self-image is not that important? I suspect to blacks, it's very important. And why this "blacks and whites"? I know lot's of white who are just as fond of Obama as blacks. And not all blacks are fond of him. It's crazy. But the Tribune is a conservative paper who endorsed Bush twice. And when it came to "an utter failure, an abomination or something worse", Republicans felt that way when he was running the first time, just because he is black.

simply another black man trying to find his way in a hostile white environment. In this way he followed in the modern folk-hero tradition of Jackie Robinson and other gifted black “firsts” whose main task, besides playing baseball or being president, was to overcome overwhelming odds and gain acceptance in the face of racial adversity

Jackie Robinson was a transformational figure. To think otherwise is crazy. What he did went far, far beyond base ball. And this idea that blacks want to gain the acceptance of whites is simply silly beyond belief. This is white racism at it's worst. To assume black people's goal is to petted by whites. Hello, most black don't give a flying fuck what whites think.

The gaze of white supremacy prevails. No matter how much Obama resonates with black folks — no matter how much he has transformed us — it is his resonance, or lack of it, among whites that is assumed to matter more. Black support is a given, the reasoning goes; white buy-in is the brass ring that will ultimately determine Obama’s importance.

So much arrogance with these crazy assumptions. And the author is a black woman. Strange.

The gaze of white supremacy prevails. No matter how much Obama resonates with black folks — no matter how much he has transformed us — it is his resonance, or lack of it, among whites that is assumed to matter more. Black support is a given, the reasoning goes; white buy-in is the brass ring that will ultimately determine Obama’s importance.

Oh give me a break. So transformation is blacks being liked by white people. Ridiculous beyond belief.

There are children who have only known a black president. That in itself is transformational. Something that will last far beyond the end of Obama's second term. Without even trying to, Obama has exposed the racisim of the GOP. Obama just existing was enough for them to show the world who they are. Trump's "wall" proves it.

Because of Obama, America will now have to work with the Middle East. No more invasions and random bomb drops.

Obama getting millions of Americans covered exposed the GOP immoral policy of "let them die" for what it is. UnAmerican and Satanic.

Voter suppression has shown America how far Republicans are willing to go to keep America white. Well, it's not going to work. They have been "exposed" and just that makes Obama transformational.
It won't be the people or columnists that will define his presidency. It will be historians. Will take years.

It reminds me of how people blame Bush for the "Great Recession", or destabilizing the Middle East. He may have contributed, but it will probably be decades before we can judge his true legacy. The same goes for Obama. We have no idea what the long term effects of his presidency will be. All we can do is speculate. It really comes down to partisan whining in the short term.
 
What will be President Obama Legacy?

The First African-American President elected and signing the ACA into law, and being the President when Osama was killed, but beside that nothing else will define his Presidency...

He has been more of a divider than a uniting the nation, and I am sure the progressive left will put all the blame on the right and scream racism, but he owns his part in that problem.

His drone usage will be debated for awhile.

Wanting to remove Assad from power was a big mistake.

Supporting the Arab Spring was not one of his best moments.

Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan are not anywhere being able to become functional countries and you can blame Bush for so much but President Obama has not been able to bring peace to that region of the World.

His ignoring of the possible threat of China in the South China Sea will be a issue for our next President.

The market is a mess, and the oil bust is just about to climax.

Terrorist attacks on our soil like Boston and California.

So what great legacy is President Obama leaving behind, and to me LBJ did more for the American minorities than anything President Obama has done!
 
How will we judge Obama?

A commentator Erin Aubry Kaplan, for the Chicago Tribune wrote an article titled "How will we judge Obama?" Certainly, she has the facts identified and neatly lined up, but her conclusions are so small scale and lack vision.

For instance:

That hoped-for change was not just political but also spiritual — it was supposed to finally forge One America across racial lines. But the racial lines have held. The clearest evidence of this is that from the beginning, Obama has always meant something different to black people than he does to everyone else.

What the hell is she talking about. I don't know anyone who thought right wing racist southern confederate Republicans would be anything else but who they have always been. Their views on blacks is very similar to their views on gays. They may hold "kill the gays" rallies, but they are not nearly bold enough to do that to blacks, at least not any more.

Simply negotiating the space of the presidency for two terms, Blow wrote, will bolster blacks’ self-image for generations to come. But that is only part of the picture, and not the most important part. (The title of Blow’s column, “The Other Obama Legacy,” acknowledges as much.) Chiefly white opponents of the first black president view him as immeasurable in another way: an utter failure, an abomination or something worse.

Black's self-image is not that important? I suspect to blacks, it's very important. And why this "blacks and whites"? I know lot's of white who are just as fond of Obama as blacks. And not all blacks are fond of him. It's crazy. But the Tribune is a conservative paper who endorsed Bush twice. And when it came to "an utter failure, an abomination or something worse", Republicans felt that way when he was running the first time, just because he is black.

simply another black man trying to find his way in a hostile white environment. In this way he followed in the modern folk-hero tradition of Jackie Robinson and other gifted black “firsts” whose main task, besides playing baseball or being president, was to overcome overwhelming odds and gain acceptance in the face of racial adversity

Jackie Robinson was a transformational figure. To think otherwise is crazy. What he did went far, far beyond base ball. And this idea that blacks want to gain the acceptance of whites is simply silly beyond belief. This is white racism at it's worst. To assume black people's goal is to petted by whites. Hello, most black don't give a flying fuck what whites think.

The gaze of white supremacy prevails. No matter how much Obama resonates with black folks — no matter how much he has transformed us — it is his resonance, or lack of it, among whites that is assumed to matter more. Black support is a given, the reasoning goes; white buy-in is the brass ring that will ultimately determine Obama’s importance.

So much arrogance with these crazy assumptions. And the author is a black woman. Strange.

The gaze of white supremacy prevails. No matter how much Obama resonates with black folks — no matter how much he has transformed us — it is his resonance, or lack of it, among whites that is assumed to matter more. Black support is a given, the reasoning goes; white buy-in is the brass ring that will ultimately determine Obama’s importance.

Oh give me a break. So transformation is blacks being liked by white people. Ridiculous beyond belief.

There are children who have only known a black president. That in itself is transformational. Something that will last far beyond the end of Obama's second term. Without even trying to, Obama has exposed the racisim of the GOP. Obama just existing was enough for them to show the world who they are. Trump's "wall" proves it.

Because of Obama, America will now have to work with the Middle East. No more invasions and random bomb drops.

Obama getting millions of Americans covered exposed the GOP immoral policy of "let them die" for what it is. UnAmerican and Satanic.

Voter suppression has shown America how far Republicans are willing to go to keep America white. Well, it's not going to work. They have been "exposed" and just that makes Obama transformational.
It won't be the people or columnists that will define his presidency. It will be historians. Will take years.

It reminds me of how people blame Bush for the "Great Recession", or destabilizing the Middle East. He may have contributed, but it will probably be decades before we can judge his true legacy. The same goes for Obama. We have no idea what the long term effects of his presidency will be. All we can do is speculate. It really comes down to partisan whining in the short term.

bs, Obama has been the most divisive, habitual liar and hateful President ever. you can make excuses for him if you need
 
14 million jobs
Mostly within the private sector
10% to 5% unemployment =huge improvement!
Millions of more people on health insurance.

No he didn't go far enough economically, but I'd judge him as decent. Republicans have a long history of causing recessions and depression...They shouldn't even be considered. A utter joke.










The one percent got even wealthier.

The middle class lost net worth for the first time in decades.

US net GDP dropped.

Fewer American working than was seen since the 1970's due to loss of jobs.

Middle class folks being forced to work two or three jobs because obamacare forced employers to cut hours to avoid the law.

Yeah matthew, he's one of the worst POTUS's this country has ever seen. But you would have to take your blinders off to acknowledge the truth of it.
The one percent got even wealthier.
Been happening for decades, and do you honestly think he could've done anything with congress anyway? Why is the one percent getting more wealth a bad thing anyways?
The middle class lost net worth for the first time in decades.
Yeah, that's definitely Obama's fault, not the recession or the stagnant wages that have been here for decades.
Fewer American working than was seen since the 1970's due to loss of jobs.
False. Retirement/more people going to college.
Middle class folks being forced to work two or three jobs because obamacare forced employers to cut hours to avoid the law.
A silly claim. I'm sure it happens to some folks, but come on.

You are truly stupid.

CEO of Carl's Jr. says 'Obamacare has caused millions of full-time jobs to become part-time'

ObamaCare Employer Mandate: A List Of Cuts To Work Hours, Jobs

Companies Are Cutting Part-Time Workers' Hours. Blame Obamacare?
Politifact rated your first link "half true."
The bottom line, we found, is that there isn’t enough data to state a number with any specificity.
I never said it didn't affect no one.
Your forbes link:
To be clear, Casselman isn’t arguing that companies are moving full-time workers into part-time jobs.

The data just doesn’t support that: The U.S. economy has been gaining hundreds of thousands of full-time jobs every month while part-time job growth has been flat, as I wrote about last year. Nearly 3 million jobs were created in 2014 — the best one-year jump since 1999 — and unemployment is down to 5.6%.
You are truly stupid. :)

Half true is better than not true.

Politifact is biased.
 
How will we judge Obama?

I'd hope it's done on PayTV - the income from that alone might help retire His debt that rests so heavily on the backs of our children's children's children.

he loves Islam so much how about we use some of their tactics and we hang him in a public square? stoning doesn't sound bad at all ....hell I might even take the time to watch it
 
14 million jobs
Mostly within the private sector
10% to 5% unemployment =huge improvement!
Millions of more people on health insurance.

No he didn't go far enough economically, but I'd judge him as decent. Republicans have a long history of causing recessions and depression...They shouldn't even be considered. A utter joke.










The one percent got even wealthier.

The middle class lost net worth for the first time in decades.

US net GDP dropped.

Fewer American working than was seen since the 1970's due to loss of jobs.

Middle class folks being forced to work two or three jobs because obamacare forced employers to cut hours to avoid the law.

Yeah matthew, he's one of the worst POTUS's this country has ever seen. But you would have to take your blinders off to acknowledge the truth of it.
The 1% got even wealthier. Silly, that's been the GOP plan for decades.
 
the absolute worst human being to walk this earth. a liar, no better than a street thug. divider, creep and loser we had to deal with for eight OF THE MOST miserable years of my political life. and I've been voting since Carter

I don't know how he can stand himself
What did he do? Oh that's right. Helped millions of Americans get health care. No wonder you hate him.
 
14 million jobs
Mostly within the private sector
10% to 5% unemployment =huge improvement!
Millions of more people on health insurance.

No he didn't go far enough economically, but I'd judge him as decent. Republicans have a long history of causing recessions and depression...They shouldn't even be considered. A utter joke.










The one percent got even wealthier.

The middle class lost net worth for the first time in decades.

US net GDP dropped.

Fewer American working than was seen since the 1970's due to loss of jobs.

Middle class folks being forced to work two or three jobs because obamacare forced employers to cut hours to avoid the law.

Yeah matthew, he's one of the worst POTUS's this country has ever seen. But you would have to take your blinders off to acknowledge the truth of it.
The 1% got even wealthier. Silly, that's been the GOP plan for decades.







And yet they do orders of magnitude better when it is DEMOCRATS in power.

Funny how that works. What was it that Gruber said???? Oh, yeah, they rely on the stupidity of the American electorate to pass their BS.

HELLO stupid electorate!:bye1:
 

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