How to raise employment

[BoredDead]

Well maybe, but you have to consider more than the static model. We got huge economic or GDP growth from the stone age to here because the private sector invented new stuff. When the government steals money from the growth machine that machine's GDP potential is diminished in favor of merely churning the existing economy. Make sense?

That makes sense, more people in the public sector means less people innovating in the private sector. However there are uses for the public sector that take priority over private sector innovation like defense, space exploration, aiding the poor/disabled, building important infrastructure, and providing an education for everyone.

 

[The Rabbi]

Well maybe, but you have to consider more than the static model. We got huge economic or GDP growth from the stone age to here because the private sector invented new stuff. When the government steals money from the growth machine that machine's GDP potential is diminished in favor of merely churning the existing economy. Make sense?

That makes sense, more people in the public sector means less people innovating in the private sector. However there are uses for the public sector that take priority over private sector innovation like defense, space exploration, aiding the poor/disabled, building important infrastructure, and providing an education for everyone.

Partially.
There are functions that gov't has that are difficult for the private sector to do. Setting weights and measures. Patents. Courts. Defense.
I wouldn't count education as one of those things, though.

 

[BoredDead]

Partially.
There are functions that gov't has that are difficult for the private sector to do. Setting weights and measures. Patents. Courts. Defense.
I wouldn't count education as one of those things, though.

You have to at least expect the government to to fund poor peoples education, don't you?

 

[The Rabbi]

Partially.
There are functions that gov't has that are difficult for the private sector to do. Setting weights and measures. Patents. Courts. Defense.
I wouldn't count education as one of those things, though.

You have to at least expect the government to to fund poor peoples education, don't you?

Not really.

 

[Truthmatters]

Please explain how a 90% tax rate of the top tax bracket did NOT suck jobs out of the economy as you claim it will in OUR own real history?

On what basis of fact do you make such a claim if the real data does not reflect what you claim?

 

[BoredDead]

Partially.
There are functions that gov't has that are difficult for the private sector to do. Setting weights and measures. Patents. Courts. Defense.
I wouldn't count education as one of those things, though.

You have to at least expect the government to to fund poor peoples education, don't you?

Not really.

So you think if you're poor you shouldn't be able to be educated???

 

[BoredDead]

Please explain how a 90% tax rate of the top tax bracket did NOT suck jobs out of the economy as you claim it will in OUR own real history?

On what basis of fact do you make such a claim if the real data does not reflect what you claim?

1. You missed the part where I said spending creates jobs.

2. Your 90% tax rate seems to be a fabrication.

3. A 90% tax rate is completely ridiculous.

 

[Truthmatters]

Its the history of this country you fool

 

[Truthmatters]

Income tax in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Truthmatters]

File:Historical Mariginal Tax Rate for Highest and Lowest Income Earners.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


your blog is not the history

 

[Truthmatters]

Almost Classical
The views of an Almost Classical Liberal with dreams of less government, less corporatism, and more personal freedom.
some libertarian bullshit blog

 

[The Rabbi]

You have to at least expect the government to to fund poor peoples education, don't you?

Not really.

So you think if you're poor you shouldn't be able to be educated???

Classic "if the gov't doesn't do it, no one will do it" fallacy.
We had no gov't schools in this country until the mid 19th century. Most people managed just fine. Charities, corporations, communitiies, neighborhoods, churches can all band together to provide education. And do so far more effectively and with lower cost than we spend now.

 

[Truthmatters]

how did our economy do when we had a 70% top tax rate?

 

[Truthmatters]

Education in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Government supported, free public schools for all started being established after the revolution, and expanded in the 19th century, as the results of efforts of men like Horace Mann and Booker T. Washington. By 1870, all states had free elementary schools,[6] albeit only in urban centers. As the 20th century drew nearer, states started passing laws to make schooling compulsory, and by 1910, 72 percent of children attended school. Private schools continued to spread during this time, as well as colleges and—in the rural centers—land grant colleges. The year of 1910 also saw the first true high schools.

 

[BoredDead]

1. You missed my first point
2. It's not my blog
3. why is there a reason to doubt this source?

 

[BoredDead]

Classic "if the gov't doesn't do it, no one will do it" fallacy.
We had no gov't schools in this country until the mid 19th century. Most people managed just fine. Charities, corporations, communitiies, neighborhoods, churches can all band together to provide education. And do so far more effectively and with lower cost than we spend now.

The cost of a modern education is staggering. it's 41% of my state's budget. ten's of billions of dollars. No charity will raise that amount of money yearly

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

how did our economy do when we had a 70% top tax rate?

too stupid!!!

1) Nobody paid that rate, government collected less of GDP then they do now

2) That was when the rest of the world had been destroyed by war and we didn't have little countries like China India Japan Brazil eating our lunch.

 

[The Rabbi]

Classic "if the gov't doesn't do it, no one will do it" fallacy.
We had no gov't schools in this country until the mid 19th century. Most people managed just fine. Charities, corporations, communitiies, neighborhoods, churches can all band together to provide education. And do so far more effectively and with lower cost than we spend now.

The cost of a modern education is staggering. it's 41% of my state's budget. ten's of billions of dollars. No charity will raise that amount of money yearly

Good thing too, because they don't have to. Education can be provided at much lower cost privately than through bloated inefficient gov't bureaucracy.
Imagine what would happen to property taxes if education were eliminated.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Classic "if the gov't doesn't do it, no one will do it" fallacy.
We had no gov't schools in this country until the mid 19th century. Most people managed just fine. Charities, corporations, communitiies, neighborhoods, churches can all band together to provide education. And do so far more effectively and with lower cost than we spend now.

The cost of a modern education is staggering. it's 41% of my state's budget. ten's of billions of dollars. No charity will raise that amount of money yearly

Good thing too, because they don't have to. Education can be provided at much lower cost privately than through bloated inefficient gov't bureaucracy.
Imagine what would happen to property taxes if education were eliminated.

yes yes yes, let's recall that IBM grew to be the biggest most profitable company in human history before the public schools and even most universities had computer science as a subject!!

 

[BoredDead]

Good thing too, because they don't have to. Education can be provided at much lower cost privately than through bloated inefficient gov't bureaucracy.
Imagine what would happen to property taxes if education were eliminated.

then why do private K-12 schools cost 10,045$ just for yearly tuition? Your mistaken in that the cost to society would just go away, taxes may be lower, but people would still have to shell out thousands to charities and tens of thousands to pay for their children's education yearly. Spreading out the cost over all of society lets more people become educated.