How Did Trump confuse conservatives about trade?

[Brain357]

Short term pain = long term gain. Democrats have always been short-sighted. Case in point, they still believe the way to increase tax revenue is to increase taxes vs lowering taxes and allowing organic growth to take place, add more money to the coffers from more money being made and spent. They prefer to just take it and get the short term gain. Idiotic, but that is why more than 1/2 our population has no money saved and lives pay check to pay check. Not coincidentally, it is also why about 1/2 our population votes for Democrats. They buy into liberal, nonsensical economic policies.

BTW, based on inflation rate, which is 1.8%, about 1/2 of the average in the world, there hasn't been much pain yet, just collecting a lot of money from China.

How are we collecting money from China?

We have trillion dollar deficits, the tax cuts aren’t paying for themselves...

 

[BluesLegend]

Trump didn't "confuse" anyone about trade. He came right out and said that he was going to deal with the trade imbalance, when he was campaigning.

Promises made, promises kept.

Trump told Americans exactly what he would do on trade, what countries he would bitch slap, and why. That's why Americans in 30 states voted him president!

And now our trade deficit is bigger than it has ever been in all of US history.

Good job!

President Trump has to fix decades of Dem incompetence on trade, just relax while we clean up their mess.

Every republican since at least Reagan have been for free trade....

Unfair trade is not free trade imbecile.

 

[Brain357]

Trump didn't "confuse" anyone about trade. He came right out and said that he was going to deal with the trade imbalance, when he was campaigning.

Promises made, promises kept.

Trump told Americans exactly what he would do on trade, what countries he would bitch slap, and why. That's why Americans in 30 states voted him president!

And now our trade deficit is bigger than it has ever been in all of US history.

Good job!

President Trump has to fix decades of Dem incompetence on trade, just relax while we clean up their mess.

Every republican since at least Reagan have been for free trade....

Unfair trade is not free trade imbecile.

You think our corporations are so stupid we’ve been getting hosed on trade? Those commies trade better than our CEOs? You might be a socialist...

 

[DBA]

Short term pain = long term gain. Democrats have always been short-sighted. Case in point, they still believe the way to increase tax revenue is to increase taxes vs lowering taxes and allowing organic growth to take place, add more money to the coffers from more money being made and spent. They prefer to just take it and get the short term gain. Idiotic, but that is why more than 1/2 our population has no money saved and lives pay check to pay check. Not coincidentally, it is also why about 1/2 our population votes for Democrats. They buy into liberal, nonsensical economic policies.

BTW, based on inflation rate, which is 1.8%, about 1/2 of the average in the world, there hasn't been much pain yet, just collecting a lot of money from China.

How are we collecting money from China?

We have trillion dollar deficits, the tax cuts aren’t paying for themselves...

The US gets money from the tariffs. That is how we(the US) are getting money.

We need to cut spending, for sure, but that is a different topic. Tax revenues have increased since the tax cuts. Most left-wing media sights don't like to mention this, but tis true. Cut taxes and revenue rises because more is spent thus more taxes are paid. It is a simple formula for success. Raising taxes merely funds the coffers temporarily. Since we all know the government spends too much(both sides), I prefer to reap the benefits of tax cuts and having more money in my pocket than to have them take it and blow it.

Opinion | Tax Revenue Keeps Rising

 

[Brain357]

Short term pain = long term gain. Democrats have always been short-sighted. Case in point, they still believe the way to increase tax revenue is to increase taxes vs lowering taxes and allowing organic growth to take place, add more money to the coffers from more money being made and spent. They prefer to just take it and get the short term gain. Idiotic, but that is why more than 1/2 our population has no money saved and lives pay check to pay check. Not coincidentally, it is also why about 1/2 our population votes for Democrats. They buy into liberal, nonsensical economic policies.

BTW, based on inflation rate, which is 1.8%, about 1/2 of the average in the world, there hasn't been much pain yet, just collecting a lot of money from China.

How are we collecting money from China?

We have trillion dollar deficits, the tax cuts aren’t paying for themselves...

The US gets money from the tariffs. That is how we(the US) are getting money.

We need to cut spending, for sure, but that is a different topic. Tax revenues have increased since the tax cuts. Most left-wing media sights don't like to mention this, but tis true. Cut taxes and revenue rises because more is spent thus more taxes are paid. It is a simple formula for success. Raising taxes merely funds the coffers temporarily. Since we all know the government spends too much(both sides), I prefer to reap the benefits of tax cuts and having more money in my pocket than to have them take it and blow it.

Opinion | Tax Revenue Keeps Rising

Yes they are a tax on us. The government collects the tariffs from US importers. And the farm bailout is more costly than what has come in from the tax.

They have increased at a slower rate and hence deficits are huge.

 

[DBA]

Short term pain = long term gain. Democrats have always been short-sighted. Case in point, they still believe the way to increase tax revenue is to increase taxes vs lowering taxes and allowing organic growth to take place, add more money to the coffers from more money being made and spent. They prefer to just take it and get the short term gain. Idiotic, but that is why more than 1/2 our population has no money saved and lives pay check to pay check. Not coincidentally, it is also why about 1/2 our population votes for Democrats. They buy into liberal, nonsensical economic policies.

BTW, based on inflation rate, which is 1.8%, about 1/2 of the average in the world, there hasn't been much pain yet, just collecting a lot of money from China.

How are we collecting money from China?

We have trillion dollar deficits, the tax cuts aren’t paying for themselves...

The US gets money from the tariffs. That is how we(the US) are getting money.

We need to cut spending, for sure, but that is a different topic. Tax revenues have increased since the tax cuts. Most left-wing media sights don't like to mention this, but tis true. Cut taxes and revenue rises because more is spent thus more taxes are paid. It is a simple formula for success. Raising taxes merely funds the coffers temporarily. Since we all know the government spends too much(both sides), I prefer to reap the benefits of tax cuts and having more money in my pocket than to have them take it and blow it.

Opinion | Tax Revenue Keeps Rising

Yes they are a tax on us. The government collects the tariffs from US importers. And the farm bailout is more costly than what has come in from the tax.

They have increased at a slower rate and hence deficits are huge.

63 billion has been brought in from Trump tariffs through June of this year. The farmer bailout is 28 billion.

U.S. Collected $63 Billion in Tariffs Through June

 

[Brain357]

Short term pain = long term gain. Democrats have always been short-sighted. Case in point, they still believe the way to increase tax revenue is to increase taxes vs lowering taxes and allowing organic growth to take place, add more money to the coffers from more money being made and spent. They prefer to just take it and get the short term gain. Idiotic, but that is why more than 1/2 our population has no money saved and lives pay check to pay check. Not coincidentally, it is also why about 1/2 our population votes for Democrats. They buy into liberal, nonsensical economic policies.

BTW, based on inflation rate, which is 1.8%, about 1/2 of the average in the world, there hasn't been much pain yet, just collecting a lot of money from China.

How are we collecting money from China?

We have trillion dollar deficits, the tax cuts aren’t paying for themselves...

The US gets money from the tariffs. That is how we(the US) are getting money.

We need to cut spending, for sure, but that is a different topic. Tax revenues have increased since the tax cuts. Most left-wing media sights don't like to mention this, but tis true. Cut taxes and revenue rises because more is spent thus more taxes are paid. It is a simple formula for success. Raising taxes merely funds the coffers temporarily. Since we all know the government spends too much(both sides), I prefer to reap the benefits of tax cuts and having more money in my pocket than to have them take it and blow it.

Opinion | Tax Revenue Keeps Rising

Yes they are a tax on us. The government collects the tariffs from US importers. And the farm bailout is more costly than what has come in from the tax.

They have increased at a slower rate and hence deficits are huge.

63 billion has been brought in from Trump tariffs through June of this year. The farmer bailout is 28 billion.

U.S. Collected $63 Billion in Tariffs Through June

That’s a total for all tariffs and all countries. The new China tariffs don’t cover the bailout.

But the New York Times reports that Customs and Border Protection data shows that the tariffs have raised about $20.8 billion in revenue. That is far less than the $28 billion in bailout fundsthat Trump vowed to give farmers after China imposed steep retaliatory tariffs targeting the agriculture industry.

Trump's tariffs won't even pay for bailout to farmers

It’s funny one side of your mouth supports tax cuts and the other a tax increase...

 

[DBA]

Short term pain = long term gain. Democrats have always been short-sighted. Case in point, they still believe the way to increase tax revenue is to increase taxes vs lowering taxes and allowing organic growth to take place, add more money to the coffers from more money being made and spent. They prefer to just take it and get the short term gain. Idiotic, but that is why more than 1/2 our population has no money saved and lives pay check to pay check. Not coincidentally, it is also why about 1/2 our population votes for Democrats. They buy into liberal, nonsensical economic policies.

BTW, based on inflation rate, which is 1.8%, about 1/2 of the average in the world, there hasn't been much pain yet, just collecting a lot of money from China.

How are we collecting money from China?

We have trillion dollar deficits, the tax cuts aren’t paying for themselves...

The US gets money from the tariffs. That is how we(the US) are getting money.

We need to cut spending, for sure, but that is a different topic. Tax revenues have increased since the tax cuts. Most left-wing media sights don't like to mention this, but tis true. Cut taxes and revenue rises because more is spent thus more taxes are paid. It is a simple formula for success. Raising taxes merely funds the coffers temporarily. Since we all know the government spends too much(both sides), I prefer to reap the benefits of tax cuts and having more money in my pocket than to have them take it and blow it.

Opinion | Tax Revenue Keeps Rising

Yes they are a tax on us. The government collects the tariffs from US importers. And the farm bailout is more costly than what has come in from the tax.

They have increased at a slower rate and hence deficits are huge.

63 billion has been brought in from Trump tariffs through June of this year. The farmer bailout is 28 billion.

U.S. Collected $63 Billion in Tariffs Through June

That’s a total for all tariffs and all countries. The new China tariffs don’t cover the bailout.

But the New York Times reports that Customs and Border Protection data shows that the tariffs have raised about $20.8 billion in revenue. That is far less than the $28 billion in bailout fundsthat Trump vowed to give farmers after China imposed steep retaliatory tariffs targeting the agriculture industry.

Trump's tariffs won't even pay for bailout to farmers

It’s funny one side of your mouth supports tax cuts and the other a tax increase...

Who cares the source country for tariffs. That is idiotic. We are up even after the bailout. That is the bottom line.

I have no idea what you are talking about with regards to wanting a tax increase. Inflation is very low. We are NOT paying for the tariffs. The left is simply brainwashed.

 

[Brain357]

How are we collecting money from China?

We have trillion dollar deficits, the tax cuts aren’t paying for themselves...

The US gets money from the tariffs. That is how we(the US) are getting money.

We need to cut spending, for sure, but that is a different topic. Tax revenues have increased since the tax cuts. Most left-wing media sights don't like to mention this, but tis true. Cut taxes and revenue rises because more is spent thus more taxes are paid. It is a simple formula for success. Raising taxes merely funds the coffers temporarily. Since we all know the government spends too much(both sides), I prefer to reap the benefits of tax cuts and having more money in my pocket than to have them take it and blow it.

Opinion | Tax Revenue Keeps Rising

Yes they are a tax on us. The government collects the tariffs from US importers. And the farm bailout is more costly than what has come in from the tax.

They have increased at a slower rate and hence deficits are huge.

63 billion has been brought in from Trump tariffs through June of this year. The farmer bailout is 28 billion.

U.S. Collected $63 Billion in Tariffs Through June

That’s a total for all tariffs and all countries. The new China tariffs don’t cover the bailout.

But the New York Times reports that Customs and Border Protection data shows that the tariffs have raised about $20.8 billion in revenue. That is far less than the $28 billion in bailout fundsthat Trump vowed to give farmers after China imposed steep retaliatory tariffs targeting the agriculture industry.

Trump's tariffs won't even pay for bailout to farmers

It’s funny one side of your mouth supports tax cuts and the other a tax increase...

Who cares the source country for tariffs. That is idiotic. We are up even after the bailout. That is the bottom line.

I have no idea what you are talking about with regards to wanting a tax increase. Inflation is very low. We are NOT paying for the tariffs. The left is simply brainwashed.

It’s idiotic to point out trumps trade war costs more in bailout money than it brings in? You are confused.

Well you are ok with the tariffs that are a tax on us. But you also talk about how good tax cuts are. You are very confused...

 

[DBA]

The US gets money from the tariffs. That is how we(the US) are getting money.

We need to cut spending, for sure, but that is a different topic. Tax revenues have increased since the tax cuts. Most left-wing media sights don't like to mention this, but tis true. Cut taxes and revenue rises because more is spent thus more taxes are paid. It is a simple formula for success. Raising taxes merely funds the coffers temporarily. Since we all know the government spends too much(both sides), I prefer to reap the benefits of tax cuts and having more money in my pocket than to have them take it and blow it.

Opinion | Tax Revenue Keeps Rising

Yes they are a tax on us. The government collects the tariffs from US importers. And the farm bailout is more costly than what has come in from the tax.

They have increased at a slower rate and hence deficits are huge.

63 billion has been brought in from Trump tariffs through June of this year. The farmer bailout is 28 billion.

U.S. Collected $63 Billion in Tariffs Through June

That’s a total for all tariffs and all countries. The new China tariffs don’t cover the bailout.

But the New York Times reports that Customs and Border Protection data shows that the tariffs have raised about $20.8 billion in revenue. That is far less than the $28 billion in bailout fundsthat Trump vowed to give farmers after China imposed steep retaliatory tariffs targeting the agriculture industry.

Trump's tariffs won't even pay for bailout to farmers

It’s funny one side of your mouth supports tax cuts and the other a tax increase...

Who cares the source country for tariffs. That is idiotic. We are up even after the bailout. That is the bottom line.

I have no idea what you are talking about with regards to wanting a tax increase. Inflation is very low. We are NOT paying for the tariffs. The left is simply brainwashed.

It’s idiotic to point out trumps trade war costs more in bailout money than it brings in? You are confused.

Well you are ok with the tariffs that are a tax on us. But you also talk about how good tax cuts are. You are very confused...

What are you talking about? The "trade war" is not just with China. The tariffs money that has been brought in is significantly greater than what was spent on the farmer bailout.

You keep saying it is a tax on us, which is just flat out wrong. It is mathematically inaccurate. You also continue to ignore the very low inflation, which tells you all you need to know. We are NOT paying for the tariffs. Bottom line. End of story.

Tax cuts have been good for the economy if you haven't noticed. Maybe you don't watch the markets. Maybe you don't understand them. The trade war does hinder the market some due to uncertainty, but the pain, if you want to call it that with the market expanding MUCH faster than the rest of the world, is well worth it.

You will see pretty quickly just how bad the lefts policies are on our economy if one of them gets elected in 2020. I know that I will be moving into more stable investments if it looks like one of those nuts will win the election.

You are the one that is very confused.

 

[Brain357]

Yes they are a tax on us. The government collects the tariffs from US importers. And the farm bailout is more costly than what has come in from the tax.

They have increased at a slower rate and hence deficits are huge.

63 billion has been brought in from Trump tariffs through June of this year. The farmer bailout is 28 billion.

U.S. Collected $63 Billion in Tariffs Through June

That’s a total for all tariffs and all countries. The new China tariffs don’t cover the bailout.

But the New York Times reports that Customs and Border Protection data shows that the tariffs have raised about $20.8 billion in revenue. That is far less than the $28 billion in bailout fundsthat Trump vowed to give farmers after China imposed steep retaliatory tariffs targeting the agriculture industry.

Trump's tariffs won't even pay for bailout to farmers

It’s funny one side of your mouth supports tax cuts and the other a tax increase...

Who cares the source country for tariffs. That is idiotic. We are up even after the bailout. That is the bottom line.

I have no idea what you are talking about with regards to wanting a tax increase. Inflation is very low. We are NOT paying for the tariffs. The left is simply brainwashed.

It’s idiotic to point out trumps trade war costs more in bailout money than it brings in? You are confused.

Well you are ok with the tariffs that are a tax on us. But you also talk about how good tax cuts are. You are very confused...

What are you talking about? The "trade war" is not just with China. The tariffs money that has been brought in is significantly greater than what was spent on the farmer bailout.

You keep saying it is a tax on us, which is just flat out wrong. It is mathematically inaccurate. You also continue to ignore the very low inflation, which tells you all you need to know. We are NOT paying for the tariffs. Bottom line. End of story.

Tax cuts have been good for the economy if you haven't noticed. Maybe you don't watch the markets. Maybe you don't understand them. The trade war does hinder the market some due to uncertainty, but the pain, if you want to call it that with the market expanding MUCH faster than the rest of the world, is well worth it.

You will see pretty quickly just how bad the lefts policies are on our economy if one of them gets elected in 2020. I know that I will be moving into more stable investments if it looks like one of those nuts will win the election.

You are the one that is very confused.

You really don’t belong in this conversation as you don’t understand tariffs. They are a tax on imports. The US is the importer bro. Get a clue then come back.

 

[DBA]

63 billion has been brought in from Trump tariffs through June of this year. The farmer bailout is 28 billion.

U.S. Collected $63 Billion in Tariffs Through June

That’s a total for all tariffs and all countries. The new China tariffs don’t cover the bailout.

But the New York Times reports that Customs and Border Protection data shows that the tariffs have raised about $20.8 billion in revenue. That is far less than the $28 billion in bailout fundsthat Trump vowed to give farmers after China imposed steep retaliatory tariffs targeting the agriculture industry.

Trump's tariffs won't even pay for bailout to farmers

It’s funny one side of your mouth supports tax cuts and the other a tax increase...

Who cares the source country for tariffs. That is idiotic. We are up even after the bailout. That is the bottom line.

I have no idea what you are talking about with regards to wanting a tax increase. Inflation is very low. We are NOT paying for the tariffs. The left is simply brainwashed.

It’s idiotic to point out trumps trade war costs more in bailout money than it brings in? You are confused.

Well you are ok with the tariffs that are a tax on us. But you also talk about how good tax cuts are. You are very confused...

What are you talking about? The "trade war" is not just with China. The tariffs money that has been brought in is significantly greater than what was spent on the farmer bailout.

You keep saying it is a tax on us, which is just flat out wrong. It is mathematically inaccurate. You also continue to ignore the very low inflation, which tells you all you need to know. We are NOT paying for the tariffs. Bottom line. End of story.

Tax cuts have been good for the economy if you haven't noticed. Maybe you don't watch the markets. Maybe you don't understand them. The trade war does hinder the market some due to uncertainty, but the pain, if you want to call it that with the market expanding MUCH faster than the rest of the world, is well worth it.

You will see pretty quickly just how bad the lefts policies are on our economy if one of them gets elected in 2020. I know that I will be moving into more stable investments if it looks like one of those nuts will win the election.

You are the one that is very confused.

You really don’t belong in this conversation as you don’t understand tariffs. They are a tax on imports. The US is the importer bro. Get a clue then come back.

My God you are confused. I truly hope most Democrats are more informed than this.

Lets try one more time. Do you understand what inflation is? Look it up, do some research then get back to me.

 

[g5000]

Trump didn't "confuse" anyone about trade. He came right out and said that he was going to deal with the trade imbalance, when he was campaigning.

Promises made, promises kept.

Trump told Americans exactly what he would do on trade, what countries he would bitch slap, and why. That's why Americans in 30 states voted him president!

And now our trade deficit is bigger than it has ever been in all of US history.

Good job!

President Trump has to fix decades of Dem incompetence on trade, just relax while we clean up their mess.

Every republican since at least Reagan have been for free trade....

Donald Trump is the only conservative Republican in the whooooooooooooooooooooole world!

 

[Brain357]

For the still confused:

Tariffs are a tax on imports. They are paid by U.S.-registered firms to U.S. customs for the goods they import into the United States.

Importers often pass the costs of tariffs on to customers - manufacturers and consumers in the United States - by raising their prices.

Who pays Trump's tariffs, China or U.S. customers and companies?

 

[DBA]

For the still confused:

Tariffs are a tax on imports. They are paid by U.S.-registered firms to U.S. customs for the goods they import into the United States.

Importers often pass the costs of tariffs on to customers - manufacturers and consumers in the United States - by raising their prices.

Who pays Trump's tariffs, China or U.S. customers and companies?

So if they are passing it along to us, why is inflation so low? Even if they are passing it along, the impact is minimal and very well worth the "pain".

You guys are just plain short-sighted.

 

[g5000]

For the still confused:

Tariffs are a tax on imports. They are paid by U.S.-registered firms to U.S. customs for the goods they import into the United States.

Importers often pass the costs of tariffs on to customers - manufacturers and consumers in the United States - by raising their prices.

Who pays Trump's tariffs, China or U.S. customers and companies?

So if they are passing it along to us, why is inflation so low? Even if they are passing it along, the impact is minimal and very well worth the "pain".

You guys are just plain short-sighted.

A flat Dow since the tariff war started. Farmers committing suicide, and a farm bailout twice the size of the auto bailout the tard herd ripped into Obama for, a declining ISM index now in negative territory, GDP growth nosediving.

Minimal impact, eh?

Wow, your propagandists are really good at keeping you liberals in the dark!

 

[JGalt]

For the still confused:

Tariffs are a tax on imports. They are paid by U.S.-registered firms to U.S. customs for the goods they import into the United States.

Importers often pass the costs of tariffs on to customers - manufacturers and consumers in the United States - by raising their prices.

Who pays Trump's tariffs, China or U.S. customers and companies?

Speaking of tariffs and Chinese goods, I took a walk through the local Walmart today. I haven't been there during the last week but there was something I noticed since the last time I was there:

The entire store was packed with more items than I've ever seen, the majority of which, were made in China. I've never seen so many things in that store before. There was hardly enough room to walk between the aisles.

 

[g5000]

For the still confused:

Tariffs are a tax on imports. They are paid by U.S.-registered firms to U.S. customs for the goods they import into the United States.

Importers often pass the costs of tariffs on to customers - manufacturers and consumers in the United States - by raising their prices.

Who pays Trump's tariffs, China or U.S. customers and companies?

Speaking of tariffs and Chinese goods, I took a walk through the local Walmart today. I haven't been there during the last week but there was something I noticed since the last time I was there:

The entire store was packed with more items than I've ever seen, the majority of which, were made in China. I've never seen so many things in that store before. There was hardly enough room to walk between the aisles.

Cool story, bro.

Walmart says higher tariffs on China goods will increase prices for U.S. shoppers

The trade war comes to Walmart, Target and Macy's - CNN

 

[JGalt]

For the still confused:

Tariffs are a tax on imports. They are paid by U.S.-registered firms to U.S. customs for the goods they import into the United States.

Importers often pass the costs of tariffs on to customers - manufacturers and consumers in the United States - by raising their prices.

Who pays Trump's tariffs, China or U.S. customers and companies?

Speaking of tariffs and Chinese goods, I took a walk through the local Walmart today. I haven't been there during the last week but there was something I noticed since the last time I was there:

The entire store was packed with more items than I've ever seen, the majority of which, were made in China. I've never seen so many things in that store before. There was hardly enough room to walk between the aisles.

Cool story, bro.

Walmart says higher tariffs on China goods will increase prices for U.S. shoppers

The trade war comes to Walmart, Target and Macy's - CNN

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

I didn't see any of those "higher prices" you are referring to. I go to Walmart twice a day to look for closeouts and markdowns, so I would know if if things were more expensive than they were last year.

So when was the last time you actually shopped in a Walmart store?

 

[g5000]

US manufacturing survey shows worst reading in a decade

Institute for Supply Management | Established in 1915


Some direct quotes:


“Continued softening in the global automotive market. Trade-war impacts also have localized effects, particularly in select export markets. Seeing warehouses filling again after what appeared to be a short reduction of demand.” (Chemical Products)

“Chinese tariffs going up are hurting our business. Most of the materials are not made in the U.S. and made only in China.” (Food, Beverage & Tobacco Products)

“We have seen a reduction in sales orders and, therefore, a lower demand for products we order. We have also reduced our workforce by 10 percent.” (Plastics & Rubber Products)

“Economy seems to be softening. The tariffs have caused much confusion in the industry.” (Electrical Equipment, Appliances & Components)