How Conservatives Think

[dblack]

If you don't like this country, move the fuck out. I want children to go to school. I gladly pay.

More importantly what you'll "gladly" do is force others to bend to your will.

 

[Intense]

How Conservatives Think

Really good video. Hit's the nail on the head.

Less of an attack on conservatives, more of a description of their tactics.

The comments below the video are very good.

One thing conservatives are very, very good at is selling the idea that their repressive and restrictive policies make you more "free".

It's his perspective, and it is full of holes. Just distinguishing between Classical Liberalism and Statist Progressivism squashes that. You can't Legislate Equality of Providence. You are not God. The concept is Totalitarian at worst, Theft, at best. The excuse is that you want to benefit, to hand out candy that is not even yours to hand out. It is borrowed and stolen, and to what end? The reality is that You are not God. It is not for you to Dictate outcome, but move out of the way. You in control, serves only you being in control.

 

[rdean]

Correct, it’s the Orwellian nature of conservatism: ‘freedom through repression.’

If you think ‘equality through repression’ is any better, go live in north korea, they are already commie.

The more you argue, they more you highlight what was said in the video.

 

[rdean]

How Conservatives Think

Really good video. Hit's the nail on the head.

Less of an attack on conservatives, more of a description of their tactics.

The comments below the video are very good.

One thing conservatives are very, very good at is selling the idea that their repressive and restrictive policies make you more "free".

It's his perspective, and it is full of holes. Just distinguishing between Classical Liberalism and Statist Progressivism squashes that. You can't Legislate Equality of Providence. You are not God. The concept is Totalitarian at worst, Theft, at best. The excuse is that you want to benefit, to hand out candy that is not even yours to hand out. It is borrowed and stolen, and to what end? The reality is that You are not God. It is not for you to Dictate outcome, but move out of the way. You in control, serves only you being in control.

It's impossible for everyone to BE equal. Just the simple fact that we are different heights and strengths prove that.

However, everyone can have "equal opportunity". Why Republicans are against this is exactly the point of the video. And don't play stupid and say everyone has equal opportunity. You know they don't.

 

[starcraftzzz]

One thing conservatives are very, very good at is selling the idea that their repressive and restrictive policies make you more "free".

You mean like:
- Forcing citizens to buy into a contract with private companies?

The mandate doesn't force you to buy insurance it just raises your taxes if you dont. How are you that ignorant?

- Banning salt, fat, happy meals, guns?

I do realize that Republicans don't want us to be healthier.

- Forcing people to pay for public schools even if they dont have kids or kids dont attend?

I Do realize that republicans wished poor people couldn't get an education

- Green taxes, on gas, carbon, electricity, water?

I do realize the republicans don't want polluters to pay for their pollution

 

[Intense]

How Conservatives Think

Really good video. Hit's the nail on the head.

Less of an attack on conservatives, more of a description of their tactics.

The comments below the video are very good.

One thing conservatives are very, very good at is selling the idea that their repressive and restrictive policies make you more "free".

It's his perspective, and it is full of holes. Just distinguishing between Classical Liberalism and Statist Progressivism squashes that. You can't Legislate Equality of Providence. You are not God. The concept is Totalitarian at worst, Theft, at best. The excuse is that you want to benefit, to hand out candy that is not even yours to hand out. It is borrowed and stolen, and to what end? The reality is that You are not God. It is not for you to Dictate outcome, but move out of the way. You in control, serves only you being in control.

It's impossible for everyone to BE equal. Just the simple fact that we are different heights and strengths prove that.

However, everyone can have "equal opportunity". Why Republicans are against this is exactly the point of the video. And don't play stupid and say everyone has equal opportunity. You know they don't.

Not saying that at all. I'm saying that you thinking the Government having control of providence is utter Bullshit. We Each have Unalienable Rights. We Each have different measures of Inherent Gifts and Developed Skills, that are Not the Property of the State, nor subject to the Dictate of the State.

 

[snakedoc]

There's the rich and then there's the Republicans. While the rich lead the Republican Party, except for "let him die" and other such cruelty, I don't believe they really have much in common. For one, the Rich don't believe education is for snobs.

You have a grand talent for making broad generalizations about groups which tends to give a very good view of how you think. By the way despite what many like to claim the rich lead the Democratic party as well.

Of course, the Democratic Party is a coalition. It even has conservatives called Blue Dogs. How many liberals does the Republican Party have?

Would that be the same Blue dogs who at the end of the day went with the far left Reid and Pelosi on healthcare and everything else Obama, Pelosi, and Reid wanted until the 2010 midterms? Their title may have been conservative blue dog but their votes showed something very different.

 

[Intense]

RD, the best Any of Us can do is to play the hand We are Dealt, the best we can.

 

[daveman]

The 1% OWS rails against own BOTH Parties and pay no income taxes. They are the capital gains tycoons. The people I'm talking about are the wage earners who are taxed the most and who BOTH Parties lead you to believe are the 1%.

Even your MessiahRushie acknowledges that there are two kinds of "rich" people.

August 7, 2007
CALLER: And, you know, and the way our tax system works, we have an overly complex system, which in and of itself is a problem, but the way our tax system works and the way the tax laws are written, it's based on a few kind of like hinge numbers like adjusted gross income and taxable income, and while the soak the rich -- or however you choose to describe it -- really doesn't come down that way. It really comes down to much lower income levels.

RUSH: It does, exactly, and here's the dirty little secret if you ever to pull it off. It's hard. This is why most people don't understand the tax-the-rich business. You've got to structure your life so you have no "earned" income. I'm out of time. I'll explain that. There's a category called earned income versus other kinds of income. Earned income is what the income tax rate is on. That's how "the rich" do it. They don't have "earned" income.
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The Truth About Taxes
August 6, 2007
RUSH: I've told you before: the income tax is designed to keep people like his [Buffett's] secretary from becoming wealthy! There is no "wealth" tax. So this is a big misnomer. ...
But there's no tax on wealth. There is a tax on income, and the tax on income is designed to keep everybody who is not wealthy from getting there.

I'm talking about genuine wealth, not the way Democrats define "rich."

Why do you assume I listen to Rush or political talk radio? This seems to be a nice example of a liberal thinking they know everything that someone who's politics lean right does.

The DittoNutzis on this board have only started denying listening to their MessiahRushie since I've made them eat his words.

My goodness, you have an overly high opinion of yourself for no apparent reason.

 

[daveman]

From what I have seen liberals or at least a certain segment of them are all for fairness and equality as long as they can get someone else to pay for it usually those rich evil Republicans. Margaret Thatcher said it best the problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

The connection between socialism and Liberals is one of the very few Republican inventions. They got that one wrong, just like everything they attempt to "reason out".

Are you claiming that socialism is on the right side of the spectrum?

 

[daveman]

How Conservatives Think

Really good video. Hit's the nail on the head.

Less of an attack on conservatives, more of a description of their tactics.

The comments below the video are very good.

One thing conservatives are very, very good at is selling the idea that their repressive and restrictive policies make you more "free".

It's always amusing when people who are incapable of thinking dictate how others think.

Is that finally an admission?

No. An observation that you're incapable of independent thought.

 

[Peach]

It's his perspective, and it is full of holes. Just distinguishing between Classical Liberalism and Statist Progressivism squashes that. You can't Legislate Equality of Providence. You are not God. The concept is Totalitarian at worst, Theft, at best. The excuse is that you want to benefit, to hand out candy that is not even yours to hand out. It is borrowed and stolen, and to what end? The reality is that You are not God. It is not for you to Dictate outcome, but move out of the way. You in control, serves only you being in control.

It's impossible for everyone to BE equal. Just the simple fact that we are different heights and strengths prove that.

However, everyone can have "equal opportunity". Why Republicans are against this is exactly the point of the video. And don't play stupid and say everyone has equal opportunity. You know they don't.

Not saying that at all. I'm saying that you thinking the Government having control of providence is utter Bullshit. We Each have Unalienable Rights. We Each have different measures of Inherent Gifts and Developed Skills, that are Not the Property of the State, nor subject to the Dictate of the State.

Very true, and I see no 'group think' among conservatives.

 

[daveman]

One thing conservatives are very, very good at is selling the idea that their repressive and restrictive policies make you more "free".

Correct, it’s the Orwellian nature of conservatism: ‘freedom through repression.’

And if they aren't able to repress, they insist it's their rights that are being violated.

I've seen leftists claim that anything less than immediate and unthinking endorsement of their opinions is repression.

Remember Tim Robbins' "A chill wind is blowing in this nation" speech at the National Press Club? He got all whiny because the Baseball Hall of Fame cancelled a showing of Bull Durham on its 15th anniversary due to Robbins' anti-war views. Actions have consequences, but Robbins' felt that shouldn't apply to him. He claimed he was being repressed. Patently ridiculous, since everybody who could breath at the time was well aware of his views.

But you'll claim that's different. Somehow. It just is.

 

[daveman]

If you don't like this country, move the fuck out. I want children to go to school. I gladly pay.

More importantly what you'll "gladly" do is force others to bend to your will.

I am a Democrat because I believe in helping those in need. All of us, you and I, have an obligation to those less fortunate. You go first, okay? I'm a little short this week.

 

[daveman]

How Conservatives Think

Really good video. Hit's the nail on the head.

Less of an attack on conservatives, more of a description of their tactics.

The comments below the video are very good.

One thing conservatives are very, very good at is selling the idea that their repressive and restrictive policies make you more "free".

It's his perspective, and it is full of holes. Just distinguishing between Classical Liberalism and Statist Progressivism squashes that. You can't Legislate Equality of Providence. You are not God. The concept is Totalitarian at worst, Theft, at best. The excuse is that you want to benefit, to hand out candy that is not even yours to hand out. It is borrowed and stolen, and to what end? The reality is that You are not God. It is not for you to Dictate outcome, but move out of the way. You in control, serves only you being in control.

It's impossible for everyone to BE equal. Just the simple fact that we are different heights and strengths prove that.

However, everyone can have "equal opportunity". Why Republicans are against this is exactly the point of the video. And don't play stupid and say everyone has equal opportunity. You know they don't.

Republicans aren't against equality of opportunity.

If you have to lie to make your point, your point isn't worth making.

But you simply can't understand that.

 

[starcraftzzz]

It's his perspective, and it is full of holes. Just distinguishing between Classical Liberalism and Statist Progressivism squashes that. You can't Legislate Equality of Providence. You are not God. The concept is Totalitarian at worst, Theft, at best. The excuse is that you want to benefit, to hand out candy that is not even yours to hand out. It is borrowed and stolen, and to what end? The reality is that You are not God. It is not for you to Dictate outcome, but move out of the way. You in control, serves only you being in control.

It's impossible for everyone to BE equal. Just the simple fact that we are different heights and strengths prove that.

However, everyone can have "equal opportunity". Why Republicans are against this is exactly the point of the video. And don't play stupid and say everyone has equal opportunity. You know they don't.

Republicans aren't against equality of opportunity.

If you have to lie to make your point, your point isn't worth making.

But you simply can't understand that.

ROTFL so according to you trying to deny poor kids education, proper nutrition and women equal pay is actually providing people with opportunities .
If you're so ignraont that you think reality is false then you must be a republican

 

[starcraftzzz]

Correct, it’s the Orwellian nature of conservatism: ‘freedom through repression.’

And if they aren't able to repress, they insist it's their rights that are being violated.

I've seen leftists claim that anything less than immediate and unthinking endorsement of their opinions is repression.

Remember Tim Robbins' "A chill wind is blowing in this nation" speech at the National Press Club? He got all whiny because the Baseball Hall of Fame cancelled a showing of Bull Durham on its 15th anniversary due to Robbins' anti-war views. Actions have consequences, but Robbins' felt that shouldn't apply to him. He claimed he was being repressed. Patently ridiculous, since everybody who could breath at the time was well aware of his views.

But you'll claim that's different. Somehow. It just is.

Well given that the Democrat positions are not to oppress and discriminate against people and the GOP positions are to discriminant on people it is obvious (to those with brains IE not you) that not supporting the Democrat positions is supporting oppression.

 

[daveman]

It's impossible for everyone to BE equal. Just the simple fact that we are different heights and strengths prove that.

However, everyone can have "equal opportunity". Why Republicans are against this is exactly the point of the video. And don't play stupid and say everyone has equal opportunity. You know they don't.

Republicans aren't against equality of opportunity.

If you have to lie to make your point, your point isn't worth making.

But you simply can't understand that.

ROTFL so according to you trying to deny poor kids education, proper nutrition and women equal pay is actually providing people with opportunities .
If you're so ignraont that you think reality is false then you must be a republican

Mindlessly repeating leftist horseshit does not make it true.

 

[daveman]

And if they aren't able to repress, they insist it's their rights that are being violated.

I've seen leftists claim that anything less than immediate and unthinking endorsement of their opinions is repression.

Remember Tim Robbins' "A chill wind is blowing in this nation" speech at the National Press Club? He got all whiny because the Baseball Hall of Fame cancelled a showing of Bull Durham on its 15th anniversary due to Robbins' anti-war views. Actions have consequences, but Robbins' felt that shouldn't apply to him. He claimed he was being repressed. Patently ridiculous, since everybody who could breath at the time was well aware of his views.

But you'll claim that's different. Somehow. It just is.

Well given that the Democrat positions are not to oppress and discriminate against people and the GOP positions are to discriminant on people it is obvious (to those with brains IE not you) that not supporting the Democrat positions is supporting oppression.

Wow. That was amazingly stupid.

You know Affirmative Action, the liberals' pet cause? It tells black people they're not good enough to succeed without the help of white liberals.

Conservatives say, yes, blacks are good enough to succeed on their own.

 

[Truthseeker420]

How Conservatives Think

Really good video. Hit's the nail on the head.

Less of an attack on conservatives, more of a description of their tactics.

The comments below the video are very good.

One thing conservatives are very, very good at is selling the idea that their repressive and restrictive policies make you more "free".