Hoffa! Hoffa! Hoffa!

[NYcarbineer]

The Right might be in a bit better position to feign righteous indignation over the Hoffa remarks had they not in overwhelming consensus repeatedly defended comparable rhetoric from their own heroes.

 

[editec]

The Pub Propaganda Machine is an unbelievable POS. Poor Pub Dupes LOL!


Fox Doctors Hoffa Speech To Fabricate Call For Violence
September 05, 2011 4:55 pm ET by Matt Gertz

Right-wing bloggers misled by dishonest Fox News video editing are attacking Teamsters President James Hoffa, Jr. for supposedly urging violence against Tea Party activists during a Labor Day speech. Conservatives are also attacking President Obama, who appeared at the event, for "sanctioning violence against fellow Americans" by failing to denounce Hoffa. But fuller context included in other Fox segments makes clear that Hoffa wasn't calling for violence but was actually urging the crowd to vote out Republican members of Congress.

During the segment that the bloggers have latched onto, Fox edited out the bolded portion of Hoffa's comments:

HOFFA: Everybody here's got to vote. If we go back and keep the eye on the prize, let's take these son of a bitches out and give America back to America where we belong! Thank you very much!

In an initial report on Hoffa's speech at 1 p.m. on Fox News, Ed Henry reported that Hoffa said that "we'll remember in November who's with the working people" and "said of the Tea Party and of Republicans, 'let's take these sons of bitches out.'"



Henry made clear during that segment that Hoffa's comments were references to voting out Republican members of Congress, not to violence. And roughly 20 minutes later, he explained on Twitter that the "full quote" of the "take these son of a bitches out" comment is "Everybody here's got to vote. If we go back & keep the eye on the prize, let's take these sons of bitches out":



But in a second segment that ran at roughly the same time as Henry's tweet, Fox News dishonestly edited the speech in the manner seen above. Andrew Breitbart's Big sites, Real Clear Politics, The Daily Caller, the Media Research Center, and the Drudge Report have all highlighted that footage, using it to condemn "the violence emanating from union thug bosses" and demand that Obama "denounce" the comments.

Link- Fox Doctors Hoffa Speech To Fabricate Call For Violence | Media Matters for America


Another Pub circle jerk for the dupes- from media matters...

Exactly as I predicted in yesterday's thread about this "threat".

One sentence taken out of context for purposes of intelectual dishonesty.


I didn't even bother to look up the full text of the thread because I knew that this was an obvious hatchet job by FOX.

 

[Conservative]

I love how some of those on the left whine that context doesn't matter... until they need it to.

 

[Stephanie]

The Right might be in a bit better position to feign righteous indignation over the Hoffa remarks had they not in overwhelming consensus repeatedly defended comparable rhetoric from their own heroes.

What heroes would that be?
And what did they say about people being Son of Bitches and they were going to take them out with THE PRESIDENT of the United States standing there waiting to TAKE THE STAGE?
You all can cover for this but Obama showed his True Colors yesterday.

 

[L.K.Eder]

that's how it works with "context".

if you apply "critical thinking"

in the case of the sign at the church, you have to diregard the bible context, and have to interpret the verse as referring to "voting out a political opponent".

put all that into the critical thinking context thingamajig and it says:

"not a death threat"

in the hoffa speech case, the words spoken right before the horrible sentence can be disregarded. context, lol

put all that into the same critical thinking context thingamajig and it says:


"clearly a death threat, incitement to all out war".

 

[freedombecki]

The Pub Propaganda Machine is an unbelievable POS. Poor Pub Dupes LOL!


Fox Doctors Hoffa Speech To Fabricate Call For Violence
September 05, 2011 4:55 pm ET by Matt Gertz

Right-wing bloggers misled by dishonest Fox News video editing are attacking Teamsters President James Hoffa, Jr. for supposedly urging violence against Tea Party activists during a Labor Day speech. Conservatives are also attacking President Obama, who appeared at the event, for "sanctioning violence against fellow Americans" by failing to denounce Hoffa. But fuller context included in other Fox segments makes clear that Hoffa wasn't calling for violence but was actually urging the crowd to vote out Republican members of Congress.

During the segment that the bloggers have latched onto, Fox edited out the bolded portion of Hoffa's comments:

HOFFA: Everybody here's got to vote. If we go back and keep the eye on the prize, let's take these son of a bitches out and give America back to America where we belong! Thank you very much!

In an initial report on Hoffa's speech at 1 p.m. on Fox News, Ed Henry reported that Hoffa said that "we'll remember in November who's with the working people" and "said of the Tea Party and of Republicans, 'let's take these sons of bitches out.'"

Henry made clear during that segment that Hoffa's comments were references to voting out Republican members of Congress, not to violence. And roughly 20 minutes later, he explained on Twitter that the "full quote" of the "take these son of a bitches out" comment is "Everybody here's got to vote. If we go back & keep the eye on the prize, let's take these sons of bitches out":

But in a second segment that ran at roughly the same time as Henry's tweet, Fox News dishonestly edited the speech in the manner seen above. Andrew Breitbart's Big sites, Real Clear Politics, The Daily Caller, the Media Research Center, and the Drudge Report have all highlighted that footage, using it to condemn "the violence emanating from union thug bosses" and demand that Obama "denounce" the comments.

Link- Fox Doctors Hoffa Speech To Fabricate Call For Violence | Media Matters for America

Another Pub circle jerk for the dupes- from media matters...

Sorry, the phrase "Let's take these sons of bitches out" is mafioso slang that a mob boss uses to tell his hit men to murder somebody.

Since the union has a history of being cushy with the mafia, it's a call for a hit on the target.

There is no misunderstanding by the press.

I demand Hoffa be excused from his post for ordering the execution against men and women we the people elected to represent us by a majority vote.

We do things in this country by counsel, and we do not put up with leaders demanding Americans to murder other Americans over greed for somebody else's wealth.

 

[Sallow]

The Pub Propaganda Machine is an unbelievable POS. Poor Pub Dupes LOL!


Fox Doctors Hoffa Speech To Fabricate Call For Violence
September 05, 2011 4:55 pm ET by Matt Gertz

Right-wing bloggers misled by dishonest Fox News video editing are attacking Teamsters President James Hoffa, Jr. for supposedly urging violence against Tea Party activists during a Labor Day speech. Conservatives are also attacking President Obama, who appeared at the event, for "sanctioning violence against fellow Americans" by failing to denounce Hoffa. But fuller context included in other Fox segments makes clear that Hoffa wasn't calling for violence but was actually urging the crowd to vote out Republican members of Congress.

During the segment that the bloggers have latched onto, Fox edited out the bolded portion of Hoffa's comments:

HOFFA: Everybody here's got to vote. If we go back and keep the eye on the prize, let's take these son of a bitches out and give America back to America where we belong! Thank you very much!

In an initial report on Hoffa's speech at 1 p.m. on Fox News, Ed Henry reported that Hoffa said that "we'll remember in November who's with the working people" and "said of the Tea Party and of Republicans, 'let's take these sons of bitches out.'"

Henry made clear during that segment that Hoffa's comments were references to voting out Republican members of Congress, not to violence. And roughly 20 minutes later, he explained on Twitter that the "full quote" of the "take these son of a bitches out" comment is "Everybody here's got to vote. If we go back & keep the eye on the prize, let's take these sons of bitches out":

But in a second segment that ran at roughly the same time as Henry's tweet, Fox News dishonestly edited the speech in the manner seen above. Andrew Breitbart's Big sites, Real Clear Politics, The Daily Caller, the Media Research Center, and the Drudge Report have all highlighted that footage, using it to condemn "the violence emanating from union thug bosses" and demand that Obama "denounce" the comments.

Link- Fox Doctors Hoffa Speech To Fabricate Call For Violence | Media Matters for America

Another Pub circle jerk for the dupes- from media matters...

Sorry, the phrase "Let's take these sons of bitches out" is mafioso slang that a mob boss uses to tell his hit men to murder somebody.

Since the union has a history of being cushy with the mafia, it's a call for a hit on the target.

There is no misunderstanding by the press.

I demand Hoffa be excused from his post for ordering the execution against men and women we the people elected to represent us by a majority vote.

We do things in this country by counsel, and we do not put up with leaders demanding Americans to murder other Americans over greed for somebody else's wealth.

Well lets see how that plays out..

Like this call for a "hit".


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tTDiZZYCAs]Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences. - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Stephanie]

The Pub Propaganda Machine is an unbelievable POS. Poor Pub Dupes LOL!


Fox Doctors Hoffa Speech To Fabricate Call For Violence
September 05, 2011 4:55 pm ET by Matt Gertz

Right-wing bloggers misled by dishonest Fox News video editing are attacking Teamsters President James Hoffa, Jr. for supposedly urging violence against Tea Party activists during a Labor Day speech. Conservatives are also attacking President Obama, who appeared at the event, for "sanctioning violence against fellow Americans" by failing to denounce Hoffa. But fuller context included in other Fox segments makes clear that Hoffa wasn't calling for violence but was actually urging the crowd to vote out Republican members of Congress.

During the segment that the bloggers have latched onto, Fox edited out the bolded portion of Hoffa's comments:

HOFFA: Everybody here's got to vote. If we go back and keep the eye on the prize, let's take these son of a bitches out and give America back to America where we belong! Thank you very much!

In an initial report on Hoffa's speech at 1 p.m. on Fox News, Ed Henry reported that Hoffa said that "we'll remember in November who's with the working people" and "said of the Tea Party and of Republicans, 'let's take these sons of bitches out.'"

Henry made clear during that segment that Hoffa's comments were references to voting out Republican members of Congress, not to violence. And roughly 20 minutes later, he explained on Twitter that the "full quote" of the "take these son of a bitches out" comment is "Everybody here's got to vote. If we go back & keep the eye on the prize, let's take these sons of bitches out":

But in a second segment that ran at roughly the same time as Henry's tweet, Fox News dishonestly edited the speech in the manner seen above. Andrew Breitbart's Big sites, Real Clear Politics, The Daily Caller, the Media Research Center, and the Drudge Report have all highlighted that footage, using it to condemn "the violence emanating from union thug bosses" and demand that Obama "denounce" the comments.

Link- Fox Doctors Hoffa Speech To Fabricate Call For Violence | Media Matters for America

Another Pub circle jerk for the dupes- from media matters...

Sorry, the phrase "Let's take these sons of bitches out" is mafioso slang that a mob boss uses to tell his hit men to murder somebody.

Since the union has a history of being cushy with the mafia, it's a call for a hit on the target.

There is no misunderstanding by the press.

I demand Hoffa be excused from his post for ordering the execution against men and women we the people elected to represent us by a majority vote.

We do things in this country by counsel, and we do not put up with leaders demanding Americans to murder other Americans over greed for somebody else's wealth.

Well lets see how that plays out..

Like this call for a "hit".


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tTDiZZYCAs]Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences. - YouTube[/ame]

you can KEEP posting that same video but it doesn't compare to what Hoffa did WHILE our President was attending and said, NOTHING.
nice try of deflecting for him though.

 

[Conservative]

The Pub Propaganda Machine is an unbelievable POS. Poor Pub Dupes LOL!


Fox Doctors Hoffa Speech To Fabricate Call For Violence
September 05, 2011 4:55 pm ET by Matt Gertz

Right-wing bloggers misled by dishonest Fox News video editing are attacking Teamsters President James Hoffa, Jr. for supposedly urging violence against Tea Party activists during a Labor Day speech. Conservatives are also attacking President Obama, who appeared at the event, for "sanctioning violence against fellow Americans" by failing to denounce Hoffa. But fuller context included in other Fox segments makes clear that Hoffa wasn't calling for violence but was actually urging the crowd to vote out Republican members of Congress.

During the segment that the bloggers have latched onto, Fox edited out the bolded portion of Hoffa's comments:

HOFFA: Everybody here's got to vote. If we go back and keep the eye on the prize, let's take these son of a bitches out and give America back to America where we belong! Thank you very much!

In an initial report on Hoffa's speech at 1 p.m. on Fox News, Ed Henry reported that Hoffa said that "we'll remember in November who's with the working people" and "said of the Tea Party and of Republicans, 'let's take these sons of bitches out.'"

Henry made clear during that segment that Hoffa's comments were references to voting out Republican members of Congress, not to violence. And roughly 20 minutes later, he explained on Twitter that the "full quote" of the "take these son of a bitches out" comment is "Everybody here's got to vote. If we go back & keep the eye on the prize, let's take these sons of bitches out":

But in a second segment that ran at roughly the same time as Henry's tweet, Fox News dishonestly edited the speech in the manner seen above. Andrew Breitbart's Big sites, Real Clear Politics, The Daily Caller, the Media Research Center, and the Drudge Report have all highlighted that footage, using it to condemn "the violence emanating from union thug bosses" and demand that Obama "denounce" the comments.

Link- Fox Doctors Hoffa Speech To Fabricate Call For Violence | Media Matters for America

Another Pub circle jerk for the dupes- from media matters...

Sorry, the phrase "Let's take these sons of bitches out" is mafioso slang that a mob boss uses to tell his hit men to murder somebody.

Since the union has a history of being cushy with the mafia, it's a call for a hit on the target.

There is no misunderstanding by the press.

I demand Hoffa be excused from his post for ordering the execution against men and women we the people elected to represent us by a majority vote.

We do things in this country by counsel, and we do not put up with leaders demanding Americans to murder other Americans over greed for somebody else's wealth.

Well lets see how that plays out..

Like this call for a "hit".


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tTDiZZYCAs]Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences. - YouTube[/ame]

Yeah, let's compare the two statements, dip shit...

"Let's take these sons of bitches out"

vs.

"There are consequences to that action"

One is violent rhetoric, the other is not. Since you suffer from terminal stupidity, I'll give you a hint...

THE FIRST ONE WAS VIOLENT RHETORIC.

 

[Stephanie]

That was then...Now he stands on a stage where A union leader call the people in this country, Son of a Bitches and says he is PROUD OF HIM. Keep this in mind when you VOTE in 2012 folks

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMSVEyqMlg4]Obama Calls For Civility In Wake Of Tucson Shooting - YouTube[/ame]

 

[NGSamson]

So, did he say it or not ?

 

[daveman]

The Right might be in a bit better position to feign righteous indignation over the Hoffa remarks had they not in overwhelming consensus repeatedly defended comparable rhetoric from their own heroes.

Oh, you mean the ridiculous leftist claims that Palin inspired Laughner?

Good Gaea, how long are you morons gonna be pushing that lie?

 

[daveman]

More tolerance and respect for different views from the Left.

 

[Seawytch]

Does Fox fabricate stories?

Do ursine mammals evacuate in sylvan environments?

 

[USArmyRetired]

In less than 24hrs after Teamster Boss James Hoffa said his awful comments about what he wanted to do to the Tea Party, Governor Sarah Palin has written a retaliatory response which she publicly calls him out by name and labels him a greedy thug who only wants a paycheck and who doesn't represent the real interests of working men and women and that the Tea Party does which is the truth. So far she is the only person to do this out of the other GOP candidates even though she is not one.....yet. Not one peep has come out of Perry, Bachmann or Romney's mouths. With this response and done so quickly, it makes me more confident that she will enter the race. In reading her attack on Hoffa and Obama and her praise for the common union individual worker, it is clear that she understands what is going on within the union bosses. She explains basically that they are backstabbers. Reading this, she is the only out there who gives any indication that she would be willing to take on corruption in this country, especially with union bosses like Hoffa. It feels like I'm back in the 60s when Bobby Kennedy was taking on senior Hoffa reading Palin's brutal attack on junior Hoffa and the president who clearly agreed with his vitriol yesterday. I believe that is why the establishment is afraid of her...on both sides of the aisle. She did take on corruption in Alaska and I think we are getting a taste of it here in this response in the link.


https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150285058673435

 

[Conservative]

Do ursine mammals evacuate in sylvan environments?

Do some posters use big words they had to GOOGLE in an attempt to appear smarter than they are?

 

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[USArmyRetired]

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Typical doper hippie reponse and not suprising at all. Go back to sleep while fine American patriots can place substantive coherant responses to the thread subject.

 

[Full-Auto]

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Typical doper hippie reponse and not suprising at all. Go back to sleep while fine American patriots can place substantive coherant responses to the thread subject.

The DNC Chair was questioned over the comments. She avoided the question, sidestepped then in true dem fashion cowered from further discussion.

 

[Seawytch]

Do ursine mammals evacuate in sylvan environments?

Do some posters use big words they had to GOOGLE in an attempt to appear smarter than they are?

Oh, poor dear. Were they too big for you? Here ya go...

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